False logic. That is like saying that if tanks were more popular they would be less secure than than light armored vehicles. While tanks may get shot at more if there were more of them around to be targets, it has absolutely nothing to do with how much damage the tank suffers. Popularity is not the same as security. Just because you are more of a target, doesn't make you any more vulnerable to the attacks.
What the hell...facing 25 years?! Thats it? I think on top of all the forgery, fraud, and quite honestly absolute disgusting disregard for the families of the deceased, they should face criminal charges for every single individual that has problems with the stolen tissues. For example, if the guy from TFA really did pick up Hep A from the stolen tissue, they should face charges of deliberalty infecting him. They should also face murder charges for anyone who happens to die as a result of tissue rejection.
This sort of thing disgusts me so much. That humanity is even capable of going to these levels for greed is pathetic. Nevermind the lawyers that can insist they did nothing illegal, and still sleep at night. Pathetic and disgusting. People like this really should just be removed from the gene pool.
Just to clarify for you. The reviews supposedly happened and everything was kosher. Bush just found out "a few days ago" when the story broke, but supports the aquisition. Where basically everyone else that it blindsided (including the Port Authority in NY) has screamed bloody murder and is trying to stop the aquisition because they didn't know. So to say the gubment didn't know may be a little innacurate. They may have known, they may have not known. The only accurate statement is that they said they didn't know.
Oh and It is actually six ports from what I remember seeing of it, not just the one.
The Patriot Act, I think, is a patently bad idea. (Which incidentally I plan on patenting the use of bad ideas in government and business, and then sueing pretty much everyone) However, the reality of it is, while there are many groups that abuse the hell out of those laws, I would hardly say that the majority of criminal cases or investigations make any use of them.
Well, kinda the nature of the beast with the web. Really, you ARE logged every time you walk down the street, its just in an entirely different way. People are logging you. For example, looking at porn on the net for example, isn't terribly different from looking at porn in a public park. There is just an illusion of privacy because you are at home doing it. In the park, people will see you doing it, and may or may not remember specific details about who you are and what you were doing. The difference is, the 'people' that see you do things on the net are machines and tend to have longer and more accurate memories. If you are worried about being logged on the internet, encrypt what you are doing (stuff that porno mag in a newspaper).
The greatest bit of irony to me with the left wing vs right wing beliefs centers around how the they both hold some very self contradicting ideals. The right has this tendancy to want strict control and monitoring of people, but supports pro gun laws. The left doesn't want the people monitored, but supports anti gun laws. (At least generally). Ultimately the purpose of the gun laws as written in that so special ammendment, is to prevent the government from taking too much control from the people. The government is supposed to fear an armed populace for the possibility of revolution, and the history of western civilizations has shown that dearming the populace was a big part in maintaining control of the populace in the past and attempting to prevent the populace from ever rising up.
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure banks are legally required to keep a transaction history (beyond just not wanting to upset their customers). The lawmakers would be the ones to tell them they have to keep it. That doesn't mean the lawmakers can just come in and grab everyones transaction history just because they want to. They have to go through a process to gain access to the specific transaction histories they want for their investigation, and have to show why they need them.
The "AAHH LOG EVERYTHING" as well as "OMG THEY ARE TRACKING US ALL" are both kneejerk reactions, and to me labeling this fiasco as a villianous thing, let alone the MOST villianous thing, just makes the side trying to prevent it look stupid.
I said I don't have much of a problem with the idea, not that I agree with every aspect of the way they are going about doing it. The problem here is reactions like "So you want us to all stay in our homes" just makes your case look bad. If you want to get things done in a sane manner, you can't react with insane behaviour. I don't want it to be a huge draconian thing, but as long as people respond with such innane comments and "awards" there will be no meaningfull opposition because they will be laughed off.
So what? They have to keep logs they were probably already keeping anyways. The big deal is going to be what they are required to do with them BEYOND just keeping them around. If the powers that be can demand access to all of them, or only demand logs involved in whatever they are investigating, etc. Given the ammount of real problems on the net, I'm not entirely convinced that making it easier to track people down for doing these things is all that bad. I certainly would like to see a reduction in the number of idenity theft cases, fraud, online predators, botnets, script kiddies. It all boils down to how they are used.
Ultimately, while this could be very slippery slope if not handled well, I really fail to see how this is anywhere near the most villianous thing done this year. I would venture to say that Yahoo! helping track down chinese dissenter journalist and throw them in jail is a far cry worse just as a small example.
Have you not been watching this whole HDTV nonsense, and DRM enabled monitor junk? They are just going to start selling DRM encumbered speakers and headphones! Really the only logical step to fix the problem is the research going into embedding chips into peoples eyes. The technology is already being used to help people regain vision... Only makes sense to make chips for your eyes and eardrums only allow the transfer of sights and sounds if you have the appropriate rights to see them.
I agree with you for the most part here, but honestly I don't care what the RIAA calls me, and I am sure they don't care for what I call them. The only clarification I offer is regarding "Now that the RIAA calls anyone downloading MP3 files a thief...". As much as they would like to, they cannot control artists that aren't under their thumb. There are plenty of good artists out there, that aren't locked into contracts with RIAA member companies, that still let you download their MP3s for the very reason you stated, of making it more likely that you will buy their stuff. I still download plenty of indie mp3 stuff when I find it, and if it is good I try to shell out the money for their CD.
Shutup! Have you forgotten your place here?! This is/. and we shall mock anyone who doesn't understand things on the same level we pretend to. I think most people here agree she did the right thing by gathering information before prosecuting, but ultimately she made an inane statement about software and thus shall be mocked furiously.
I think they are potentially doing something very good here. I hope you are wrong. However, you certainly have a very good point. I try hard to think about how much those $100 laptops could help education over there... I seem to remember seeing plenty of stories even in our nice western civilized nations of people getting murdered over a pair of shoes. There is no real shortage of shoes here...there is however a very large shortage of tech stuff over there. While I really think the tech could help them out alot, I am also a little nervous that it will just throw fuel on the fire. Put a bunch of shiney tech things in the hands of the youth, and watch the youth get murdered for their shiny tech things.
As much as I would like to just point and laugh at MS...to be fair my last major issue was because of the hardware. I upgraded to a Radeon 9550 and 30 seconds into any game the screen would freak, sound card would go crazy, and the system would go into a hard lock. I took the card back thinking it was bad (found out it had already been returned by someone else and restocked) and got a clean box. Same problem, 8 hours later it turns out the motherboard chipset has some major stupid problem with the video card. Updated bios and found newer drivers for the motherboard chipset to get it to work.
Last I had read on the subject, their concern with OSX on the intel platform has little to do with competition. The major concern is that they want to control the hardware configuration so they can control the image they present. If you can just run out and buy OSX and slap it on any intel box with random hardware, there could be incompatabilities that makes their OS look unstable. They want to make sure that OSX ships only on hardware that is known to not have issues. This control also reduces support costs since they don't have to guess as to what chips are involved.
So...basically...China says their censorship is modeled on ours. How many people are going to have the little lightbulb go off and realize that is exactly what all these wonderful US crafted laws are about? How many are just going to scream about China trying to deflect blame? Certainly what China is doing is quite a bit worse than what is going on in the western world, but maybe people will see what IS going on in the western world as the path to what China is currently doing.
Uhm...no my "problem" is that when talking about the security aspects of this, its a unfair comparison. KDE gets installed by default on a great number of linux distros. I have run into a great number of people who use KDE or Gnome on servers because configuring by CLI is scary because they are primarily windows users. That doesn't mean they don't understand that the rest of the system works fine.
In the grand scheme of things, it is not a tiny, irrelevent detail, because the discussion here is dealing with security problems, not pretty userfriendlyness and desired features. Including unrequired features, moreso unrequired features with security holes, increases the risk of any given system.
You also insist on comparing KDE to Windows...which is FAR from the case. Windows is an OS, KDE is a nice pretty addon thing. You can use a GUI in Linux without Gnome or KDE...just plain ol X server and a WM. khtml integrated into KDE isn't anywhere near the same thing as IE being integrated into the OS, except in a superficial manner. kthml doesn't affect the inner workings of the system, IE does.
I like the ebay attempts. In the last 3 days I have gotten half a dozen of the latest attempt, something about an ebay user wanting to ask me a question about an item I am selling. I havn't used my ebay account in about a year at least. The emails lead to obviously fake sites, and often enough, if I am bored, or have been drinking...I go to said site...and just refresh over and over 'logging in' with garbage, and strings of explatives:) I know one night me and a buddy who had quite a bit to drink already, sat at one of those scam sites for a good 20 minutes finding creative ways to fill out their fake "ebay user details" form.
My guess is that Pentium M is 32 bit, and Turion is 64 bit. I kinda doubt they did any testing of 64bit applications as the benchmarks seem to be limited to Windows use and not Linux (since Windows really isn't that far into the 64 bit world yet) and doing 64 bit benchmarking would be a tad unfair because the Turion would get a score...poor or good...while the Pentium M would just get a 0 for being unable to do the test.
You are right in part. I don't use KDE so it wouldn't affect me or anyone else not using KDE. Also, it would break KDE, not the system, your mysql server, your apache server, and postfix would all continue to run happily even with KDE in a broke dick situation. I have seen X blow up on a few linux servers, and the rest of it ran fine. In fact, I had to ssh into one to get a console and recover it...and convinced the owner to never put X on a server.
But in Linux breaking KDE just screws up the user's interface, it doesn't really takedown the whole OS.
Wow...thanks. The movie looks pretty interesting. I am going to have to pick it up sometime. Coarse I will also say that I am going to hunt you down if it creeps me out too much. Seen a few of those wierd future things that just creep me out...makes me think someone needs to go bury the writers before they give anyone any nasty ideas.:)
I think one of the biggest selling points for me is that nix tends to give MUCH more meaningful error messages, while Windows just spits out "something broke, contact your administrator" style messages. I can't tell you how many times I have sat screaming at a Windows box "I am the damned administrator, now tell me what is wrong!". This is also assuming you have never dealt with a linux box spitting out the "Printer is on fire" error while dealing with old printer ports.
I think the biggest reason I have seen MS products win over OSS products is the ease of setup. To me, I see this as part of the problem, not as a benefit. I don't think things should be 'hard' to configure, but I think you should at least know what you are doing before you can get them turned on. I don't agree with the MS way of oversimplification. It tends to breed the problems with insecure boxes hanging open ports out to be exploited by anyone. Administrators should have an idea of what is going on, and this holds true in Windows and Linux enviroments, but Windows makes it so simple, and the MCSE isn't a terribly difficult certification to get by any means. So it creates a horde of MCSE toting administrators, that management believes knows what they are doing, but in reality, many of them have no idea beyond the basic point and click steps to turn something on and understand very little about the workings of the system involved.
Ok...so I'm not exactly sure how they are going to get their watermarks onto mp3s that were ripped from CD, since most of the downloadable music already has DRM in it. I'm not entirely sure how they are going to connect that CD to a person, assuming they can get the watermarks to work like that. I'm also not entirely sure how they are going to track unique watermarks for every song/artist out there. But as long as they want to throw their money at something like this, and continue to pass on the savings to the consumer, I think its a great idea...
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False logic. That is like saying that if tanks were more popular they would be less secure than than light armored vehicles. While tanks may get shot at more if there were more of them around to be targets, it has absolutely nothing to do with how much damage the tank suffers. Popularity is not the same as security. Just because you are more of a target, doesn't make you any more vulnerable to the attacks.
What the hell...facing 25 years?! Thats it? I think on top of all the forgery, fraud, and quite honestly absolute disgusting disregard for the families of the deceased, they should face criminal charges for every single individual that has problems with the stolen tissues. For example, if the guy from TFA really did pick up Hep A from the stolen tissue, they should face charges of deliberalty infecting him. They should also face murder charges for anyone who happens to die as a result of tissue rejection.
This sort of thing disgusts me so much. That humanity is even capable of going to these levels for greed is pathetic. Nevermind the lawyers that can insist they did nothing illegal, and still sleep at night. Pathetic and disgusting. People like this really should just be removed from the gene pool.
Just to clarify for you. The reviews supposedly happened and everything was kosher. Bush just found out "a few days ago" when the story broke, but supports the aquisition. Where basically everyone else that it blindsided (including the Port Authority in NY) has screamed bloody murder and is trying to stop the aquisition because they didn't know. So to say the gubment didn't know may be a little innacurate. They may have known, they may have not known. The only accurate statement is that they said they didn't know.
Oh and It is actually six ports from what I remember seeing of it, not just the one.
The Patriot Act, I think, is a patently bad idea. (Which incidentally I plan on patenting the use of bad ideas in government and business, and then sueing pretty much everyone) However, the reality of it is, while there are many groups that abuse the hell out of those laws, I would hardly say that the majority of criminal cases or investigations make any use of them.
Well, kinda the nature of the beast with the web. Really, you ARE logged every time you walk down the street, its just in an entirely different way. People are logging you. For example, looking at porn on the net for example, isn't terribly different from looking at porn in a public park. There is just an illusion of privacy because you are at home doing it. In the park, people will see you doing it, and may or may not remember specific details about who you are and what you were doing. The difference is, the 'people' that see you do things on the net are machines and tend to have longer and more accurate memories. If you are worried about being logged on the internet, encrypt what you are doing (stuff that porno mag in a newspaper).
The greatest bit of irony to me with the left wing vs right wing beliefs centers around how the they both hold some very self contradicting ideals. The right has this tendancy to want strict control and monitoring of people, but supports pro gun laws. The left doesn't want the people monitored, but supports anti gun laws. (At least generally). Ultimately the purpose of the gun laws as written in that so special ammendment, is to prevent the government from taking too much control from the people. The government is supposed to fear an armed populace for the possibility of revolution, and the history of western civilizations has shown that dearming the populace was a big part in maintaining control of the populace in the past and attempting to prevent the populace from ever rising up.
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure banks are legally required to keep a transaction history (beyond just not wanting to upset their customers). The lawmakers would be the ones to tell them they have to keep it. That doesn't mean the lawmakers can just come in and grab everyones transaction history just because they want to. They have to go through a process to gain access to the specific transaction histories they want for their investigation, and have to show why they need them.
The "AAHH LOG EVERYTHING" as well as "OMG THEY ARE TRACKING US ALL" are both kneejerk reactions, and to me labeling this fiasco as a villianous thing, let alone the MOST villianous thing, just makes the side trying to prevent it look stupid.
I said I don't have much of a problem with the idea, not that I agree with every aspect of the way they are going about doing it. The problem here is reactions like "So you want us to all stay in our homes" just makes your case look bad. If you want to get things done in a sane manner, you can't react with insane behaviour. I don't want it to be a huge draconian thing, but as long as people respond with such innane comments and "awards" there will be no meaningfull opposition because they will be laughed off.
So what? They have to keep logs they were probably already keeping anyways. The big deal is going to be what they are required to do with them BEYOND just keeping them around. If the powers that be can demand access to all of them, or only demand logs involved in whatever they are investigating, etc. Given the ammount of real problems on the net, I'm not entirely convinced that making it easier to track people down for doing these things is all that bad. I certainly would like to see a reduction in the number of idenity theft cases, fraud, online predators, botnets, script kiddies. It all boils down to how they are used.
Ultimately, while this could be very slippery slope if not handled well, I really fail to see how this is anywhere near the most villianous thing done this year. I would venture to say that Yahoo! helping track down chinese dissenter journalist and throw them in jail is a far cry worse just as a small example.
Have you not been watching this whole HDTV nonsense, and DRM enabled monitor junk? They are just going to start selling DRM encumbered speakers and headphones! Really the only logical step to fix the problem is the research going into embedding chips into peoples eyes. The technology is already being used to help people regain vision... Only makes sense to make chips for your eyes and eardrums only allow the transfer of sights and sounds if you have the appropriate rights to see them.
I agree with you for the most part here, but honestly I don't care what the RIAA calls me, and I am sure they don't care for what I call them. The only clarification I offer is regarding "Now that the RIAA calls anyone downloading MP3 files a thief...". As much as they would like to, they cannot control artists that aren't under their thumb. There are plenty of good artists out there, that aren't locked into contracts with RIAA member companies, that still let you download their MP3s for the very reason you stated, of making it more likely that you will buy their stuff. I still download plenty of indie mp3 stuff when I find it, and if it is good I try to shell out the money for their CD.
The easy solution is to scroll down to the bottom of the page and notice that the copyright info is both for Ziff Davis. Would probably explain why the IP addresses are so close and the sites look the same...
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Shutup! Have you forgotten your place here?! This is /. and we shall mock anyone who doesn't understand things on the same level we pretend to. I think most people here agree she did the right thing by gathering information before prosecuting, but ultimately she made an inane statement about software and thus shall be mocked furiously.
Maybe is key is broke. You insensitive clod!
I think they are potentially doing something very good here. I hope you are wrong. However, you certainly have a very good point. I try hard to think about how much those $100 laptops could help education over there... I seem to remember seeing plenty of stories even in our nice western civilized nations of people getting murdered over a pair of shoes. There is no real shortage of shoes here...there is however a very large shortage of tech stuff over there. While I really think the tech could help them out alot, I am also a little nervous that it will just throw fuel on the fire. Put a bunch of shiney tech things in the hands of the youth, and watch the youth get murdered for their shiny tech things.
As much as I would like to just point and laugh at MS...to be fair my last major issue was because of the hardware. I upgraded to a Radeon 9550 and 30 seconds into any game the screen would freak, sound card would go crazy, and the system would go into a hard lock. I took the card back thinking it was bad (found out it had already been returned by someone else and restocked) and got a clean box. Same problem, 8 hours later it turns out the motherboard chipset has some major stupid problem with the video card. Updated bios and found newer drivers for the motherboard chipset to get it to work.
Could be, but I like to give the hardware makers the benefit of the doubt in that situation... :)
Last I had read on the subject, their concern with OSX on the intel platform has little to do with competition. The major concern is that they want to control the hardware configuration so they can control the image they present. If you can just run out and buy OSX and slap it on any intel box with random hardware, there could be incompatabilities that makes their OS look unstable. They want to make sure that OSX ships only on hardware that is known to not have issues. This control also reduces support costs since they don't have to guess as to what chips are involved.
So...basically...China says their censorship is modeled on ours. How many people are going to have the little lightbulb go off and realize that is exactly what all these wonderful US crafted laws are about? How many are just going to scream about China trying to deflect blame? Certainly what China is doing is quite a bit worse than what is going on in the western world, but maybe people will see what IS going on in the western world as the path to what China is currently doing.
Uhm...no my "problem" is that when talking about the security aspects of this, its a unfair comparison. KDE gets installed by default on a great number of linux distros. I have run into a great number of people who use KDE or Gnome on servers because configuring by CLI is scary because they are primarily windows users. That doesn't mean they don't understand that the rest of the system works fine.
In the grand scheme of things, it is not a tiny, irrelevent detail, because the discussion here is dealing with security problems, not pretty userfriendlyness and desired features. Including unrequired features, moreso unrequired features with security holes, increases the risk of any given system.
You also insist on comparing KDE to Windows...which is FAR from the case. Windows is an OS, KDE is a nice pretty addon thing. You can use a GUI in Linux without Gnome or KDE...just plain ol X server and a WM. khtml integrated into KDE isn't anywhere near the same thing as IE being integrated into the OS, except in a superficial manner. kthml doesn't affect the inner workings of the system, IE does.
I like the ebay attempts. In the last 3 days I have gotten half a dozen of the latest attempt, something about an ebay user wanting to ask me a question about an item I am selling. I havn't used my ebay account in about a year at least. The emails lead to obviously fake sites, and often enough, if I am bored, or have been drinking...I go to said site...and just refresh over and over 'logging in' with garbage, and strings of explatives :) I know one night me and a buddy who had quite a bit to drink already, sat at one of those scam sites for a good 20 minutes finding creative ways to fill out their fake "ebay user details" form.
My guess is that Pentium M is 32 bit, and Turion is 64 bit. I kinda doubt they did any testing of 64bit applications as the benchmarks seem to be limited to Windows use and not Linux (since Windows really isn't that far into the 64 bit world yet) and doing 64 bit benchmarking would be a tad unfair because the Turion would get a score...poor or good...while the Pentium M would just get a 0 for being unable to do the test.
You are right in part. I don't use KDE so it wouldn't affect me or anyone else not using KDE. Also, it would break KDE, not the system, your mysql server, your apache server, and postfix would all continue to run happily even with KDE in a broke dick situation. I have seen X blow up on a few linux servers, and the rest of it ran fine. In fact, I had to ssh into one to get a console and recover it...and convinced the owner to never put X on a server.
But in Linux breaking KDE just screws up the user's interface, it doesn't really takedown the whole OS.
Wow...thanks. The movie looks pretty interesting. I am going to have to pick it up sometime. Coarse I will also say that I am going to hunt you down if it creeps me out too much. Seen a few of those wierd future things that just creep me out...makes me think someone needs to go bury the writers before they give anyone any nasty ideas. :)
I think one of the biggest selling points for me is that nix tends to give MUCH more meaningful error messages, while Windows just spits out "something broke, contact your administrator" style messages. I can't tell you how many times I have sat screaming at a Windows box "I am the damned administrator, now tell me what is wrong!". This is also assuming you have never dealt with a linux box spitting out the "Printer is on fire" error while dealing with old printer ports.
I think the biggest reason I have seen MS products win over OSS products is the ease of setup. To me, I see this as part of the problem, not as a benefit. I don't think things should be 'hard' to configure, but I think you should at least know what you are doing before you can get them turned on. I don't agree with the MS way of oversimplification. It tends to breed the problems with insecure boxes hanging open ports out to be exploited by anyone. Administrators should have an idea of what is going on, and this holds true in Windows and Linux enviroments, but Windows makes it so simple, and the MCSE isn't a terribly difficult certification to get by any means. So it creates a horde of MCSE toting administrators, that management believes knows what they are doing, but in reality, many of them have no idea beyond the basic point and click steps to turn something on and understand very little about the workings of the system involved.
Ok...so I'm not exactly sure how they are going to get their watermarks onto mp3s that were ripped from CD, since most of the downloadable music already has DRM in it. I'm not entirely sure how they are going to connect that CD to a person, assuming they can get the watermarks to work like that. I'm also not entirely sure how they are going to track unique watermarks for every song/artist out there. But as long as they want to throw their money at something like this, and continue to pass on the savings to the consumer, I think its a great idea...