I used Realone for Windows back in my XP days, 7 months ago, before my P4 box literally burned and I moved to Mac G5.
As I was "radiopass" member for listening to Knac.com radio , it became "plus". I really liked it but after all, I thought of privacy people:) Well, they have good reasons to hate it but I am NOT telling stuff about "spyware"
The "stealing" of file associations exist since, every mmedia app in windows including Quicktime has to mess with evil little BillG somehow manages to steal all files to OS itself! So, as last resort they had to put a little app to memory to keep file associations intact.
About privacy, well in 2 days many people will start calling it spyware, they added webbrowser in app, there you go:) I don't believe you don't have ANY kind of privacy unless you unplug from Internet so, if that app has feature they invented, to show Artist info/bio playing, I will click on that link as I do in iTunes:)
Its Real for OS X lol, it definately lacked a web browser. I am a radiopass member and I was sick of messing with www browsers (especially, evil IE) to launch a radio.
I couldn't put radio to favorites even since OSX (thank god) cleared the temp folder... So, radio was cleared too:)
I had to feedback to Omnigroup for instance to fix the radio links, at v5 beta build, it was displaying a text file since Real sent some strange data to browser...:)
So, thanks Realnetworks AND Helix Opensource volunteers... It was cool already, now its better...
I have bought pure java office suite (thinkfree) as I got fed-up with OO problems (really, tried and tired)
It launches faster than X11 OpenOffice or MS Office:) Also made some evil tests while I was on trial, e.g. downloaded 400 page word docs, reformatted them etc, no speed problem while running.
So, your point must be right. Also if I understand it right (not a developer here) only "fast" launch time will happen when they move to 2.0 , e.g. native so it will be prebinded.
OO.o people, if you want to impress Mac users and really set an END to MS Office tyranny on Mac, go native. Real native I say. More native than MS Office even.
I am after their V100 or something, the PAL mpeg 1 one for cable TV (usb) and know what? I can't buy it.
I thought it will be cheaper and more clever to buy it instead of giving my Philips 6 head NICAM VHS to service for tuner fix, with CC in my hand from Istanbul I tried to buy it...
There is NO possible way! All their online stores, all the shop.yahoo.com search, froggle, buy.com search... I couldn't buy the damn thing. No international shipping.
Besides all, congratulations to them for releasing it for mac.
I am on G5 running OS X and I don't get how "sad" it could be that we still have real player option.
On "Mecca" of Multimedia, only non problematic application with all my browsers is Realone for OSX.
Real is years ahead of Apple and Microsoft if we speak about streaming. Lets say, QT automatically selects which stream is good for you based on YOUR preferences and it locks on that rate. While, lets say you have Realone for any OS, if you lag, it drops back to unimaginable low speeds (56k, on T1!) and continues to play (not BUFFERING) than it goes back to normal when network problem is over.
Also sounds so great that I subscribed to Real Radiopass to listen my favorite web station (support etc) , listening in 64kbit, sounds real good. Even on a 5.1 Denon optical/digital setup.
So besides all, I hope Real keeps going since that MS fascists has no respects for other platforms/browsers. Don't be fooled what MS Mac unit says, WMP 9 for mac, simply DOESN'T WORK in their own IE!
BBC does it for at least a year, they have.ogg streams , British know why they do it (must reach as much of audience possible or something).
I don't understand how radio stations will adopt it. Bandwidth and License prices (for music) are amazing, they either setup their own subscription system or use http://www.contentcommunity.org from Real Networks RadioPass...
E.g. when I have network lag, will drop from 64 kbps to 32 kbps , after network is ok, it will sense it non intrusive way and go back to 64?
Real does it for years, MS Media (which I don't use) does it in Version 9...
Telling how real does it perfectly, I am radiopass member and listen to radios 24/7 here, sometimes it even drops to 11.2 kbps but goes back to 64 or 96.
If it can't be done, we have a problem with ogg streaming.
If I didn't buy WeatherPop from Glucose, I'd buy/try it.
I think they are trolled by overreacting fan(atics), especially while Jobs speak about early 2005 as release day. I didn't like all that flamebaiting by CODERS themselves without speaking to Apple first.
Maybe Apple has/had a plan? Also Omniweb (Omni) 5 beta has RSS "sense" technology right now, I see the damn RSS subscribe icon right bottom side of it. Why Omni group doesn't come out shouting "Aha! They stole our idea! Assholes!" ? Thats the borderline of being pro and amateur.
Also, what Apple does is entirely new. A personal "virtual desktop" hidden until you need it (HERE IS DIFFERENCE), which based on standards like W3C HTML and ECMAScript. We are speaking about webcore!
If you call Nv5200 on my G5 "longhorn like", I bite you real bad:)
OK, OSX sucks all its gpu power (2d is opengl even) but its NOT a top class gfx card.
If you figure what they do with the graphics card, you will drop your jaw just like me. Those "demos" if you check the streaming quicktime are done with 2-3% of CPU power man! GPU does all the stuff. They are coding GPU in realtime!
I use Omniweb 5, beta. So impressed so even bought it...
There is a tiny newspaper icon with "+" on it right now, to subscribe to Slashdot RSS. It somehow "senses" it;) More interestingly, Omni uses "bookmark" style RSS. So, you have "updated bookmarks" (dynamic) in folder where you put RSS "bookmark". E.g. "Microsoft did this, that";) is a bookmark, click on it, you are in page it references.
Well, I saw a custom mac (probably not even documented) branded "Symbolist" doing HDTV (real HDTV) level 3d animations/fx with 24bit sound back in 1994!
It was in Istanbul, I didn't even dare to ask its price. Like, there was a Sony DFS 500 in dust there, a realtime video fx thing.
If you go into pro stuff, prices can REALLY amaze you...
I worked with BARCO for a while, we sold $30.000 CRT projectors for houses. Some of those guys using them, pays $3000 for UPS!
Like, lets say, $4000 is price for a satellite radio+8 inch screen+gps for a car...
Not just pros, Apple's "niche" customers will buy them too. I still like CRT though, colour quality...
I tried couple of apps on my Mac G5 and it was fairly impressive.
The commercial MMOG (massive online game) guys are after it since they won't have to sell CD/DVD to broadband users, will be multiplatform and could run inside browser.
I have seen what happens if a commercial company codes java apps and sells them. E.g. I am a thinkfree java office user and I am pretty amazed about the performance. So, it won't be vaporware if Sun doesn't do a stupid thing. Can change face of gaming...
Best is to use traditional way, not a problem if cd has no buttons...
Open case, plug the "audio out" or if your sound card has digital input (and cd player too) "digital audio out" (a bit messy btw) to sound card or if its onboard, documented motherboard connector, run "cdplay" from console, which is generally included with Linuxes... Oh of course, you do it while PC off:)
All cdroms should have basic cd playing capability whether they have buttons or not, seems its kind of some standard.
Some guy will install that.reg file, he will eventually do some stupid thing such as opening a mail attachment or running a malware and he will mail you instantly.
Funny, I just learned the fact that UK and USA cds aren't copy protected.
Flamebait me or whatever moderators, as a guy owning 2 of those copy protected cds which froze my mac eventually, I feel like those companies shout at my face "You are a potential THIEF from second class world"
I have 2 cds with that "technology" (macrovision one), Iron Maidens latest and Norah Jones.
If I had a iPod or any mp3 player, would want to rip them for my own use but I can't.
Here the funny part begins. What do I do? I download the most popular one as I am not too much "tech" type, there Kazaa with latest spyware technology comes:) So, as I must be punished to buy original cd, I am spyware infected...
Don't forget, average user who doesn't care about p2p, goes to friends store and buy cds for supporting artist/ sound quality concerns is introduced to wonders of p2p...
BTW, OSX users, NEVER leave the macrovision protected cd on your cd drive. Apple OSX installer gets evilly frozen, speaking about major hangup effecting entire OS, I had to kill -9 the disc daemons etc. Not to speak about Apple OSX defaults to playing cd when inserted and there, you have a iTunes freeze too.
as last note, thank you Iron Maiden and Norah Jones for allowing such crap. UK and USA releases not copy protected, so rest of your fans in the world are potential thieves.
Slashdot Mirror
Slashdot people will kill me or something :)
:) Well, they have good reasons to hate it but I am NOT telling stuff about "spyware"
:) I don't believe you don't have ANY kind of privacy unless you unplug from Internet so, if that app has feature they invented, to show Artist info/bio playing, I will click on that link as I do in iTunes :)
I used Realone for Windows back in my XP days, 7 months ago, before my P4 box literally burned and I moved to Mac G5.
As I was "radiopass" member for listening to Knac.com radio , it became "plus". I really liked it but after all, I thought of privacy people
The "stealing" of file associations exist since, every mmedia app in windows including Quicktime has to mess with evil little BillG somehow manages to steal all files to OS itself! So, as last resort they had to put a little app to memory to keep file associations intact.
About privacy, well in 2 days many people will start calling it spyware, they added webbrowser in app, there you go
Its Real for OS X lol, it definately lacked a web browser. I am a radiopass member and I was sick of messing with www browsers (especially, evil IE) to launch a radio.
:)
:)
I couldn't put radio to favorites even since OSX (thank god) cleared the temp folder... So, radio was cleared too
I had to feedback to Omnigroup for instance to fix the radio links, at v5 beta build, it was displaying a text file since Real sent some strange data to browser...
So, thanks Realnetworks AND Helix Opensource volunteers... It was cool already, now its better...
and download, help Camino. Its the ONLY browser can impress mac average user and its native.
At least services aren't grayed out, UI is quartz accelerated and the developer is friendly. Of course, its a native thing.
I have bought pure java office suite (thinkfree) as I got fed-up with OO problems (really, tried and tired)
:) Also made some evil tests while I was on trial, e.g. downloaded 400 page word docs, reformatted them etc, no speed problem while running.
It launches faster than X11 OpenOffice or MS Office
So, your point must be right. Also if I understand it right (not a developer here) only "fast" launch time will happen when they move to 2.0 , e.g. native so it will be prebinded.
OO.o people, if you want to impress Mac users and really set an END to MS Office tyranny on Mac, go native. Real native I say. More native than MS Office even.
Man no kidding, I have apple.slashdot.org on my bookmarks, when I clicked on it, screen filled with iPods
I don't think even Apple iPod press releases are that many lol
I am after their V100 or something, the PAL mpeg 1 one for cable TV (usb) and know what? I can't buy it.
I thought it will be cheaper and more clever to buy it instead of giving my Philips 6 head NICAM VHS to service for tuner fix, with CC in my hand from Istanbul I tried to buy it...
There is NO possible way! All their online stores, all the shop.yahoo.com search, froggle, buy.com search... I couldn't buy the damn thing. No international shipping.
Besides all, congratulations to them for releasing it for mac.
That will be the "Bus" version ;)
Imagine someone makes a car burning penguin oil and submits story "Linux powered car" ... Eww, ok, moving away from slashdot for a while, cya all :)
No, first
/dev/volvo 666
modprobe volvo.o
chmod
etc etc etc
I am on G5 running OS X and I don't get how "sad" it could be that we still have real player option.
On "Mecca" of Multimedia, only non problematic application with all my browsers is Realone for OSX.
Real is years ahead of Apple and Microsoft if we speak about streaming. Lets say, QT automatically selects which stream is good for you based on YOUR preferences and it locks on that rate. While, lets say you have Realone for any OS, if you lag, it drops back to unimaginable low speeds (56k, on T1!) and continues to play (not BUFFERING) than it goes back to normal when network problem is over.
Also sounds so great that I subscribed to Real Radiopass to listen my favorite web station (support etc) , listening in 64kbit, sounds real good. Even on a 5.1 Denon optical/digital setup.
So besides all, I hope Real keeps going since that MS fascists has no respects for other platforms/browsers. Don't be fooled what MS Mac unit says, WMP 9 for mac, simply DOESN'T WORK in their own IE!
BBC does it for at least a year, they have .ogg streams , British know why they do it (must reach as much of audience possible or something).
I don't understand how radio stations will adopt it. Bandwidth and License prices (for music) are amazing, they either setup their own subscription system or use http://www.contentcommunity.org from Real Networks RadioPass...
How will they manage to secure the stream?
E.g. when I have network lag, will drop from 64 kbps to 32 kbps , after network is ok, it will sense it non intrusive way and go back to 64?
Real does it for years, MS Media (which I don't use) does it in Version 9...
Telling how real does it perfectly, I am radiopass member and listen to radios 24/7 here, sometimes it even drops to 11.2 kbps but goes back to 64 or 96.
If it can't be done, we have a problem with ogg streaming.
I have a message for Konfabulator guys.
If I didn't buy WeatherPop from Glucose, I'd buy/try it.
I think they are trolled by overreacting fan(atics), especially while Jobs speak about early 2005 as release day. I didn't like all that flamebaiting by CODERS themselves without speaking to Apple first.
Maybe Apple has/had a plan? Also Omniweb (Omni) 5 beta has RSS "sense" technology right now, I see the damn RSS subscribe icon right bottom side of it. Why Omni group doesn't come out shouting "Aha! They stole our idea! Assholes!" ? Thats the borderline of being pro and amateur.
Also, what Apple does is entirely new. A personal "virtual desktop" hidden until you need it (HERE IS DIFFERENCE), which based on standards like W3C HTML and ECMAScript. We are speaking about webcore!
I think they are over reacting, TOO EARLY.
If you call Nv5200 on my G5 "longhorn like", I bite you real bad :)
OK, OSX sucks all its gpu power (2d is opengl even) but its NOT a top class gfx card.
If you figure what they do with the graphics card, you will drop your jaw just like me. Those "demos" if you check the streaming quicktime are done with 2-3% of CPU power man! GPU does all the stuff. They are coding GPU in realtime!
I use Omniweb 5, beta. So impressed so even bought it...
;) More interestingly, Omni uses "bookmark" style RSS. So, you have "updated bookmarks" (dynamic) in folder where you put RSS "bookmark". E.g. "Microsoft did this, that" ;) is a bookmark, click on it, you are in page it references.
There is a tiny newspaper icon with "+" on it right now, to subscribe to Slashdot RSS. It somehow "senses" it
http://www.omnigroup.com for more info.
Well, I saw a custom mac (probably not even documented) branded "Symbolist" doing HDTV (real HDTV) level 3d animations/fx with 24bit sound back in 1994!
It was in Istanbul, I didn't even dare to ask its price. Like, there was a Sony DFS 500 in dust there, a realtime video fx thing.
If you go into pro stuff, prices can REALLY amaze you...
I worked with BARCO for a while, we sold $30.000 CRT projectors for houses. Some of those guys using them, pays $3000 for UPS!
Like, lets say, $4000 is price for a satellite radio+8 inch screen+gps for a car...
Not just pros, Apple's "niche" customers will buy them too. I still like CRT though, colour quality...
"I" as an average user, simulating :)
.
I would use eMule (or better, sheraza) of course but check top downloads at download.com
What about PPC arch? Especially G5? Your point seems interesting...
I tried couple of apps on my Mac G5 and it was fairly impressive.
The commercial MMOG (massive online game) guys are after it since they won't have to sell CD/DVD to broadband users, will be multiplatform and could run inside browser.
I have seen what happens if a commercial company codes java apps and sells them. E.g. I am a thinkfree java office user and I am pretty amazed about the performance. So, it won't be vaporware if Sun doesn't do a stupid thing. Can change face of gaming...
Best is to use traditional way, not a problem if cd has no buttons...
:)
Open case, plug the "audio out" or if your sound card has digital input (and cd player too) "digital audio out" (a bit messy btw) to sound card or if its onboard, documented motherboard connector, run "cdplay" from console, which is generally included with Linuxes... Oh of course, you do it while PC off
All cdroms should have basic cd playing capability whether they have buttons or not, seems its kind of some standard.
Keep that cd in drive and run an installer which uses Apple Installer code, see what happens when Apple installer checks "what's in that drive?"
BTW, save your files before doing it...
Don't do such favors, it will cause headache.
.reg file, he will eventually do some stupid thing such as opening a mail attachment or running a malware and he will mail you instantly.
Some guy will install that
No kidding, it happens...
Funny, I just learned the fact that UK and USA cds aren't copy protected.
Flamebait me or whatever moderators, as a guy owning 2 of those copy protected cds which froze my mac eventually, I feel like those companies shout at my face "You are a potential THIEF from second class world"
Tell me how do I buy from iTunes music store as a guy from Istanbul?
:)
I guess you are american. CIA unearthed an amazing conspiracy, http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
See? There are indeed other countries than USA on planet.
I am already mad to RIAA not Apple since they don't allow a worldwide shop. Its amazing...
I have 2 cds with that "technology" (macrovision one), Iron Maidens latest and Norah Jones.
:) So, as I must be punished to buy original cd, I am spyware infected...
If I had a iPod or any mp3 player, would want to rip them for my own use but I can't.
Here the funny part begins. What do I do? I download the most popular one as I am not too much "tech" type, there Kazaa with latest spyware technology comes
Don't forget, average user who doesn't care about p2p, goes to friends store and buy cds for supporting artist/ sound quality concerns is introduced to wonders of p2p...
BTW, OSX users, NEVER leave the macrovision protected cd on your cd drive. Apple OSX installer gets evilly frozen, speaking about major hangup effecting entire OS, I had to kill -9 the disc daemons etc. Not to speak about Apple OSX defaults to playing cd when inserted and there, you have a iTunes freeze too.
as last note, thank you Iron Maiden and Norah Jones for allowing such crap. UK and USA releases not copy protected, so rest of your fans in the world are potential thieves.