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Jobs Previews Displays, Tiger at WWDC
DonaldGelman writes "Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display capable of displaying a resolution of 2560x1600. The display requires a new Nvidia card with 2 parallel DVI connections. The display is going to retail for $3299 in August, and the Nvidia card for around $599." Jobs also announced new 20- and 23-inch displays, for $1299 and $1999 in July. All three feature a new aluminum enclosure, and DVI. Also from WWDC...
Jobs also previewed Tiger, with Spotlight (fast iTunes-like searching in all apps, and systemwide), Dashboard (Konfabulator-like widgets combined with Exposé for fast showing/hiding), Automator (visual AppleScript, combining prewritten actions into scripts), H.264 code for QuickTime (high definition scalable video from MPEG), iChat AV conferencing (up to 10 for audio, four for video), RSS reading in Safari, Core Image and Core Video (realtime filters at the core OS level), and system-wide Sync Services. All of this is extensible (except for iChat conferencing), with SDKs available for developers.
There's a lot here, and a more detailed description is forthcoming. Tiger will be available in the first half of 2005.
Could you give us an SDK for the iPod? We've been very good boys and girls this year, and we promise to be nice with it.
Thank you,
AAiP
P.S.: It'd be really cool if you could make it your "Oh, and one more thing..." We love it when you do that.
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
What are these "widget" thingies? Is this just the old Docklets thing, only documented? And it's supposed to be "integrated" with Expose? How does this work?
And what happened to the rumors they were bringing back Copland's "smart folders"? Is that what searchlight is?
Let the copying of Tiger features into Longhorn... begin!
... it's Apple's WorldWide Developer Conference.
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If it's quiet around you, you can probably hear the collective screaming of the Longhorn team from Redmond WA that sounds like "AGHGHGHGHHGHHHHHH!!!!"
"Peter, did you copy all that down?"
"I got only the first half before I fainted. You?"
"I got most of it. Ok, the Longhorn features spec meeting is Wednesday morning, we have two days to put all that new Tiger stuff in!"
For those of you wondering where the pictures on the cinema displays came from it's the Jungfrau Region of Switerland. The valley is the Lauterbrunnen Valley. Now if I could only get the display to go with the picture...
NMG
another round of stuff I either can't afford or am not willing to pay for, but at least we can all take about how innovative Apple is in design some more. I love ya' Apple, but this whole move where you basically abandonded the mid-range can't really be good for business.
'Tis a wonderful time to be an Apple user. I am not wealthy enough to afford one of those 2.5GHz dual G5s with a 30" screen, but I can't wait to get my grubby little mitts on a OSX 10.4 "Tiger" beta build!
A nice Safari RSS screenshot, starring our favorite site.
Not even a "one more thing..." from Steve.
This was a huge disappoint.
(marketing drone sitting around table with other marketers. All sipping lattes)
"so, get this: Are you ready? We release computer displays. TA DA!!
BUT WAIT, there's more. Not only do we release displays that are the same as our current ones, but we will demonstrate the innovation... BY CHANGING THEM TO BE MADE OUT OF METAL!!!!
Everyone knows metal is faster than plastic. But, wait for it, wait for it, get this: we'll keep them the same price that they have been for over a year!!!!!!!!"
(thank you's and hugs for everyone followed by a power lunch, martinis and more fucking crazy pills)
'the Internet is right.'
Tiger will be available in the first half of 2005.
Yeah. Going by this display in the recent USOpen, me thinks we definitely need to wait till 2005...
Can you say "purchase order?" I'll take five.
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Apple tends to succeed better when they adopt the standards (USB, Firewire, etc) rather than go it their own (ADC over DVI, for example).
I've been contemplating one of these screens, but never wanted to commit because I couldn't just slap in a KVM for my other machines (mainly the Windows 98 Box fo' Games and my wife's Windows 98 Box fo' Work Crap). Now, I don't have any excuse!
(Looks at price tag.)
Well, I guess I still have one....
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Looks like /. got a little shout-out from
Apple.
The Apple website page
I am a long time mac user, and make a decent living thanks to apple, however, this stuff always manages to piss me off.
The developers of Konfabulator have created an elegent piece of software that is easily expandable by anyone with a modicum of scritpting knowledge. So what does apple do, steal the idea and incorporate it.Their Dashboard implementation is a nice take on it, but is such an obvious rip off, that it must be frustrating to the creators of it.
Wouldn't it be more fair to their developers to license it at then expand on it by tying it inot the OS?
If you are one in a million, then there are six thousand people who are just like you.
I looove graphics and games and drool over any good displays... but I could buy like two Alienwares for that kind of dough.
I think with the interesting people, their lives can't possibly be wrapped up into a nice little package.
I've never even used Konfabulator, and I've used Macs since about 15 years ago (I started on a Centris 610), but from what I've seen, Dashboard is nothing more than a direct ripoff of Konfabulator in the same way that iTunes beat out Audion, and Sherlock beat Watson. I am planning on being a developer for a living, and when the company I have devoted my resources to does something as despicable as this it really bugs me. Yes, they have the resources to make the shareware part of the OS, and they may even implement it better, but that doesn't mean that Arlo Rose shouldn't receive at least some sort of compensation for their acts. Yellowdog Linux is looking more appetizing every day.
Help a college student
I think I can understand why they would need 2 DVI's for this, however, I have a question:
Could this also work if you had 2 new nVidia boards set up in SLI mode? Just have each board rendering one half of the screen, as they normally would in standard operations during gaming. This would take some of the strain off the single board that would ordinarily do the job, and probably allow for some faster/cooler effects to be rendered on this big-ass screen.
There is no mod option "-1: Disagree" for a reason. "Overrated" is not an acceptable substitute. Post something instead.
The new advanced video technologies (core image) seem to have longhorn like requirements:
ATI Radeon 9800 XT
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
ATI Radeon 9600 XT
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600
NVIDIA GeForceFX Go 5200
NVIDIA GeForceFX 5200 Ultra
Seems some current Mac models will not support this! You can bet there will now be users who think that 10.4 will not run on their machine just because core image/video does not. They just won't get the advanced new graphics.
This will spark a round of poor-man's me-too-ism that should haunt M$ for a while. (I wonder how he's goind to justify .WMV files as part of the OS. Clippy on steroids! :-)
Now if only auto-detection worked with Linux boxes. Then I'd be happy.
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These new displays are:
1. Larger
2. Use DVI instead of ADC, so you don't have to have mac hardware to use them.
I'm hoping that the increases in speed seen in the last upgrades continue for "older" machines. I'm assuming so based on what Apple has posted on their website, but a lot of that is G5 performance info.
I'm hoping that the "instant search of everything" feature, which I'll almost never use if my current searching is any indication, won't bog down the system while indexing everything.
All in all, not too revolutionary. Which is just fine with me. I think Panther is damn nice and would rather they spent time cleaning up and helping developers make their apps more reliable than anything else.
Not announced on stage, but previewed off, is 10.4 Server: includes 100% 64bit libs, ACLs, iChat server, SUS. Also includes NT migration tool, improved email, and a one-click SOHO setup. Nice bump.
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$tar -xvf
"You can now host your own iChat server. Instant Messaging serves as a vital means of communication for organizations of all sizes, so it's useful to deploy and run your own private and secure IM server. Based on the open source Jabber project, the new iChat server in Tiger Server lets your company protect its internal communications by defining its own namespace, using SSL/TLS encryption to ensure privacy, and Kerboros for authorization. The iChat server works with both the iChat client in Mac OS X Tiger and popular open source clients available for Windows, Linux and even PDAs."
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/tiger/
So, they did it again. They released the new version of their software, and it has real new features that really enhance the experience and could really compel me to buy it. Hopefully they have also fixed some of the issues I had with especially Safari (unusable while loading slow page) and iChat (goes bad after receiving voice chat invite behind firewall).
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
I admit that having two 30" LCDs side-by-side would be droolworthy (assuming I could afford the $6000+ cost in displays alone, not to mention the CPU), but I was talking with a coworker over this and was wondering who, if anyone, has room for this kind of thing on their desk.
Even on a wide-open setup, some CAD designers I've seen would still eat up most of their desks with this. Combined with the fact that you can't actually see beyond your desk with two huge monitors in your way, how would this be practical for most people?
I'm still waiting on hologram displays: little buttons I push that can pop up a screen from my desk, display it in air, then turn it off if someone comes by to talk. Adjustable, semi-transparent, it'd be perfect for most work situations.
Tiger... the real reason Longhorn will go into beta later this year.
Did anyone notice that the sample RSS feed on the Safari RSS page shows a Slashdot story?
Since I heard that both Apple and Microsoft will not be at this year's Macworld in Boston, I have wondered where Steve Jobs would reveal new products and swag. I guess the question was answered at the Apple WWDC.
Remember Watson? Remember how Sherlock 3 basically became Watson?
Remember Konfabulator with all of its widgets? Well, now Tiger's going to have Dashboard. I wonder if it will accept Konfabulator widgets (which I've been using) or if there will be an "import" program? And Konfabulator 1.7 just added Expose-like features (press F8 to get your Widgets in front - useful).
Granted, Apple had something like this back in the older Mac days (or so I've read here and there), so it's kind of like they're "bringing back" something old into the new - but if you're an Apple developer, it seems as though there's always the fear that your favorite app will get assimilated into the next version of OS X.
Granted, I like OS X (my work is buying me a new Powerbook in about a week - yay me), but it does kind of make you go "Hm".
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Apple ought to be taking unsuccessful software ideas and incorporating them into the OS instead
Well finally OS X will have 64-bit pointers and long longs.
I've been waiting for that feature for a while now and to me that's the most valuable thing, along with Xcode being updated to take advantage of the LP64 model.
Up until now, the 64-bit G5 processor was rather wasted.
it looks like apple's giving konfabulator the same treatment with dashboard as they gave soundjam with itunes, watson with sherlock... i don't get it. on one hand, they're bringing their developers closer with all these great development tools-- XCode 2.0's OO diagramming features look very sweet as well as the Java tools-- but they have the gall to blatantly steal the finest fruits of the third-party developers' labors?
Ahh, so THAT's where CowboyNeal has been hiding while he is away from the Poll options! :)
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...but the actual promotional banners Apple are using at WWDC for Tiger have the strapline "Redmond, start your photocopiers".
Although ironically, Steve Jobs noted in the keynote speech that he "ran into Bill Gates a few weeks ago and his company
feels that their relationship with Apple is better than ever."
I think there's some pics of the banners at macrumors.com...
Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display capable of displaying a resolution of 2560x1600
Jobs also previewed Tiger
There Grrrrrrreaat!
The new stuff in Tiger seems more like icing on the cake than the drastic improvements we got from Jaguar and Panther. Any word if this puppy's still gonna cost $130?
Aha! So this is why nVidia has been working on the 2 card video load balancing system.
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So widgets are a direct ripoff of "Konfabulator".
How is "Konfabulator" anything other than a direct ripoff of the OS 9 Control Strip?
That's a serious question. I've never used Konfabulator.
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
Just a nitpick...Apple bought SoundJam (and the team who wrote it), and turned it into iTunes.
*snore*
Looks like Apple is dropping the ADC port. None of these displays have it listed in the specs. It was one of those Apple quirks where they basically went their own and to hell with rest of the industry. However, it was a convenient connector that got rid of all the wires (if you had a power mac).
You don't have to be smart to use a Mac, you just have to be smart enough to buy one
Fools! Geeky fools! All addicted to mac developments.
Buy the shinies.
Love the shinies.
Buy more shinies.
I bought aapl stock at 19, its now at 33.
I love you guys.
really I do.
Personally, I was looking forward to the announcement about the Finder's cute little "oh hey you double-clicked on a file so now I'm going to update the folder that's listed by date modified so what you thought you opened is something entirely different" bug.
(aka, use kqueue, dammit!!)
How about the tons of widget developers for Konfabulator? Now they can get their project to *way* more people instead of the small segment of users who bought Konfabulator.
You should simply never buy anything, and that way you'll never have that problem.
sulli
RTFJ.
Fortunately they also announced these products to the development teams today.
In other news, starbucks stores around the Apple campus are open 24 hours a day over this summer...
-Adam
"Apple tends to succeed better when they adopt the standards (USB, Firewire, etc) rather than go it their own (ADC over DVI, for example)." I thought FireWire was an Apple standard - certainly, FireWire is a trademark of Apple.
Also, little companies that make stuff like DragThing have been doing that and only that for a while. They're small, they need to be tuned into their market in order to get water past the financial gills, and as a result they're pretty agile. Ask the DragThing people for a feature; they're already working on it, or they have a really good reason not to.
I look at the Apple dock, and it's okay, a spare and workable design -- but it seems like Apple just has to let their deign gurus make the choices from the mountaintop, partly, so they don't take advantage of that huge base of developers out there.
Seems to me they could take some of those Konfabulator-type developers under their wing and the whole developer world would be a lot more likely to extend itself for them. Steve Jobs supposedly "gets" karma, but not in that way.
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
I can see from the slashdot story blurb that widgets are "like Konfabulator". However I don't have any idea what Konfabulator is. That's why I asked the question in the first place.
Redmond, Start Your Photocopiers!!
Is it just me or do none of these sound like major innovations? Wow, they are adding a search feature! RSS feeds, don't forget about RSS feeds. And to all you guys talking about how Microsoft is going to start copying apple, who the hell would want to copy these "features" anyway. This is the garbage no one uses in a bloated OS.
16:9 is OK for watching movies, I guess, but when I'm writing code, it's VERTICAL SPACE that's at a premium, not horizontal space.
I would love a "tall" (or at least 4:3) Apple Cinema Display instead of these shorties they keep making.
Best Buy can have you arrested
Not for the same amount. For the same amount plus $900 and taxes.
And a year is a pretty long time in tech market.
You never buy too soon. Buy when you have the need and the money. There is ALWAYS something better in the pipeline. If you wait, you will ALWAYS be waiting.
Tony would say "They're Grrrrrrreat!" - as in, "they are great"...
Hey, check out the Dashboard page here:
On the simulated Dashboard you can have all sorts of nifty mini-programs called Widgets. One of Apple's sample programs is a stock price table, and they're up 7.36 percent. Microsoft is the only stock on the fictional list that's down. Direct link to the image here.
Nice to see Apple's sense of humor. And in fact this sort of functionality is a real smack in the face to Redmond, who have updated little on their desktop (XP) in three years, while Apple has had three release cycles that have been better each time.
It appears you can mount the Apple displays using a VESA mount - you could probably therefore rotate the display 90 degrees, and rotate the image appropriately...of course, this probably wouldn't be supported, so might need a software hack or the like...
What???
Don't they know we want the HDTV 16:9 (1.777...:1) ratio?
I'll pass, thanks but no thanks!
Now show me 2048x1152 pixels and maybe a 23inch diagonal...I think that would be about optimum for my needs.
How long do I have to wait???
Aw, c'mon mod. This is an obvious troll, plain and simple---jeepers...
I have been asking myself how long till Apple would put metadata to good use, and if it would be before WinFS and Reiser4. Well, it looks like the answer is here.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Is that Apple's innovated here in terms of how this metadata is searched and displayed. This is probably what Microsoft is going to be copying. We knew Microsoft was going to be doing this SQL FS thing long before Apple was working on Tiger, but we had no idea whatsoever how people would actually get their information out of said SQL FS... which is the hard part. So the question is, will that in the end wind up looking like how Tiger does it? I guess we'll find out soon enough...
If only Apple would have taken the time to implement the awesome history viewing of Trailblazer. Even though TrailBlazer is not a full featured browser, I still use it for some "show off" tendencies on my mac.
Steve, find these kids and put the functionality into Safari!
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( as of now, the above is rated -1. it doesn't deserve that, seems a legitimate statement to make, but oh well. )
it's untrue. MS, outside of their windows+office, hasn't dominated any significant market. PDAs? it's arguable they're in the lead now, over Palm, but it's not what you'd call domination. And, considering everything's merging into the "smartphone" category, dominating here's pointless either - and the smartphone category looks more like Symbian's game, now.
media centres? tablet PCs? nope. about the only thing i can think of that they stand a chance of "dominating" in, is... xbox2. Sony had better be taking the threat seriously, because you don't survive losing to Microsoft.
Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display
Can you say "purchase order?" I'll take five.
Homer sliding credit card through machine while buying expensive computer: "You are on your -fifth- mortgage."
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
Just beacuse GNAA Goat-See (775677) belongs the the infamous Troll-Group GNAA, doesn't mean his claim is invalid.
Dont judge a book by it's cover 100% of the time. Reserve at least 1% for the benefit of the doubt.
MacRumors.com did publish the article and the screenshots (the screenshots were subsequently removed due to legal threats from APPLE Computer, Inc.).
SHAME ON YOU for modding the parent and the threads as "OFFTOPIC" of "TROLL"
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/20040626041 303.shtml
http://slashdot.org/~GNAA%20Goat-See
Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) Screenshots?
Saturday June 26, 2004 04:13 AM EST Posted by arn
Note: This is a Page 2 News Item Images Removed at the Request of Apple Legal
With WWDC just days away, the first Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to unconfirmed sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. These screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview.
(Of note, the screenshots come from a previously unconfirmed source, and as a result may spark the usual debates of legitimacy -- though on casual inspection, do appear real ( removed )
Overall Mac OS X 10.4 is said to not hold any dramatic changes from Mac OS X 10.3.
The preview is labeled "Version 10.4 Pre-release" (removed) and build number 8A162 ( removed ).
A new version of Safari (v2.0) is bundled with the release and offers at least two new features. These include support for RSS news feeds as well as a new "Private Browsing" mode. Private Browsing allows users to browse without keeping a history of pages viewed.
System Preferences (removed) has been tweaked yet again, with the addition of an iTunes-like search function on the top right ( removed ) which hilights relevant control panels in real time. As the search gets narrowed ( removed ) so do the control panels that are hilighted.
In addition, Apple has added new security features to their firewall, most significantly a Stealth Mode ( removed ) which should "Ensures that any uninvited traffic receives no response -- not even an acknowledgement that your computer exists."
Perhaps the most dramatic change, however, is the inclusion of a new Expose feature called Dashboard ( removed ). Dashboard appears to be a Gadget/Widget based utility which provides users with a quick access (invoked by user-specified function key) to frequently used tools/applications. The tools available to users in the Tiger build include Address Book, Calculator, Calendar, iTunes, Stickies and World Clock. The tools provided however, are heavily themed with un-Mac OS X-like styles. It's assumed that developers will be able to provide additional "Gadgets".
Confirmation or invalidation of these images should come at WWDC next week.
Thanks to Gary Niger and Ron Delsner of GNAA for providing the information in this article.
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No mention of virtual desktops in Tiger, so for now we have to assume it isn't going to get them.
Seems like a no-brainer to at least include an option for virtual desktops if you would like to use them.
Oh well, at least there's Desktop manager. Still it would be great if this were built-in.
When you make tools that enhance the OS, For any OS. You suffer the risk that the OS maker will use it in the next version. In general this is better off for the consumers. Because they don't have to search for a tool that they don't know that they need, then pay extra money for it. But if your tool enhances the interface (Apple's bread and butter selling point), they will take it (if they can) or buy it (if they have to) to put it in their software to make it better.
So if you want to make a living off your tools you better copyright or paten it, so Apple will need to pay for it to put it in their next OS.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
This is clearly a troll. Mod it down.
MS and Apple had a little fight over this. If you come up with a new widget, you can't really claim it as yours. More or less, while a specific overall look and feel are yours, the specific parts aren't. This isn't only in computers. Car makers take design clues from each other all the time. There sould be a lawsit in the event of producing a car that looked precisely the same as a competitors, but if they go to a new curvy look and succede and you then roll out a similar curvy look, you are fine.
:/
It's actually one of the ways we get progress in computer UIs. It'd be a real bitch if someone could copyright general UI things and let noone else touch them. Imagine if Xerox owned exclusive rights to the window, pointer, and icon, and wouldn't let people use them.
That's awesome. How will that work out? Where will the ACLs be stored? HFS+ doesn't have support for them, does it?
If you want lots of nifty eyecandy, you have to have the hardware to back it up. Past a certian point, you just can't do it in software as it'll slow the OS down too much. As it was OS-X hit the processor pretty hard for the eye candy if it lacked an accelerator.
:).
I'm also sure Apple wouldn't mind people deciding they need a new system for the new OS. They are, after all, a hardware company
Sheesh!
--- Ban humanity.
If Core Imaging is as consistently poorly documented as Core Audio, people aren't going to make much use of this for a couple of years or so..
http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/safari.html
Also, those who are FIREFLY fans will note the movie is mentioned in the post...
Careful ladies and gents. Read the bios for the creators Konfabulator....they used to work for Apple. I bet that the design and core technology of Konfabulator is prior intellectual property that Apple legally owns.
If you look at the calculator in the Dashboard demo, you'll notice it says 1.337!
I love a company with a sexy UNIX based OS and a sense of humor.
People have such short memories. Have you really forgotten desk accessories already?
The only thing new in Konfabulator is using Javascript. Do you really expect Apple to never make this move? It's such an obvious step.
Thanks to the specious reliance on a .Mac account.
a $3300 monitor. I didn't know I also wanted a $600 vid card, but I guess I do! Thanks Steve! Forget about putting out an affordable G5 (that's not a neutured one like the 1.6). /me goes back to his iBook and grumbles
CB
free ipod and free gmail!
You know, I frequently think the same thing of all the Linux articles. Frankly, I could care less about minor updates to Linux. So maybe we should both be grateful they don't stick with a single platform.
In 2005, Tiger will feature spotlight, with utility approximating - but not reaching - LaunchBar 3.0 - circa 2002.
Yawn. So long as I can turn the spot off, save my menubar real estate, and continue using LB, I couldn't care less.
Heck, in a couple of years even MS will have a LaunchBar rip-off, now that Apple has publicised it. I'd hazard to say Linux, too.
None of the above should be construed to mean that the originators of these ideas should not be compensated -- only that copycats are usually inferior and always delayed.
I can't speak for Konfabulator, which I never really found useful, but LaunchBar is already facing stiff competition from QuickSilver, a free and considerably more intuitive work-alike.
I don't know where you get the idea that Apple is replacing these programs. When they released Safari, did everybody stop using other web browsers? Does nobody use Entorage or MailSmith or Eudora just because Apple includes Mail? Are people going to stop using NetNewsWire just because you can read RSS feeds in Safari now? Don't people use VLC dispite QuickTime?
crushing the very developers that make people switch to the Mac because of the cool things that shareware developers do.
I don't know about you, but I switched because of the things that Apple had developed.
on their dashboard preview video, http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/theater/dashboar d.html, the calculator shows "1.337"
From people who bought G5 systems for their advertised 64-bit workstation features, if an update to 64-bit Tiger isn't provided for free by Apple, I would not be at all surprised to see a class action suit against Apple.
A man went to visit a friend and was amazed to find him playing chess with his dog. He watched the game in astonishment for a while. "I can hardly believe my eyes!" he exclaimed. "That's the smartest dog I've ever seen."
"Nah, he's not so smart," the friend replied. "I've beaten him three games out of five."
Dual-link DVI: One channel, one pixel clock, but 6 differential pairs (rather than the normal three). Usually with dual-link, your GPU's video controller spits out two adjacent pixels each pix clock.
Dual-channel DVI: Two independent single-link DVI channels (like two of what you normally get). In this case, your display is divided in half; the left half comes out of one channel, and the right half comes out of the other channel.
The first one is a DVI standard which simple doubles the DVI maximum dot rate from 165 megapixels/sec to 330. Some nVidia cards can do this, and it works great.
However, it sounds like the apple thing is doing dual-channel. I've also experienced nVidia dual-channel, and it has a problem. The problem is that it's using two independently programmed video controllers, and I've seen them get out of sync. The result is a tear-line down the middle of the screen when there's motion going on that crosses that line. It's really irritating.
I realize this should just be a software problem, because the two video controllers can be programmed at the same time and started at the same time, and they SHOULD stay in sync, but I've seen them get out of sync. Where I experienced this was with the Windows drivers. If you reboot into the dual-channel mode, it works fine, but if you change the resolution to one that uses only one channel, and then you change back, the two video controllers always end up out of sync.
Anyone buying this panel from apple should check this and complain. This is a software-fixable problem.
Sorry, toots, but Konfabulator was pretty late to this horse race.
It's a nice product, but that is ALWAYS the danger when you create widget-ware, as opposed to something like a Usenet browser or an accounting program or a spreadsheet.
--- Ban humanity.
Hell, if you want to spend some real money, buy one of these babies.
3840 x 2400. 9,216,000 pixels for about $6,300. Per pixel, that's cheaper than buying two 30" Cinema displays.
See Slashdot's silly rss feed policy
And I want a pet unicorn.
Get over it. Apple is not going to do what you want them to do, because it would cost them their company.
Of course, I'm not going to get my pet unicorn, so we're both going to be disappointed.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
Doesn't keep me from wanting one though.
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Did anyone else view the Dashboard previews and have a flashback to the old System X Desk Accessories? Calculator, Puzzle, Alarm Clock,... they're all there
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
So....will it support FreeBSD 5.X? (Oh, and who makes the LCD's so I don't have to spend my $$$ with Apple?)
isnt this the apple section of slashdot?
... okay so now opinions are wrong? I'm just saying I like the software and dislike the hardware prices, is that so wrong? Why even have a replies if all your gonna do is say "STOP SHARING". I'm not going to force apple to do anything, I just would like it if they did this...They mos def will not listen to a single post, and btw Unicorns went exthinct a long time ago...weirdo. Of course, you only said that because you are an idiot, and I am not disappointed.
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I'm so glad they canned ADC. Apple has been all about promoting I/O standards, but they had that stupid proprietary display connector.
No doubt, it was kind'a cool to have one cable for the display connector and power... but, I'd rather have DVI. Dealing with special video cards, adaptors, and powered adaptors was totally retarded.
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"To change the color or font for a sticky note, flip the note around -- all Widgets controls are on the back to keep them out of sight until you need them."
Sounds like Sun and Apple are finally taking computer users to the next level with 3D interfaces. It'll be interesting to see what Microsoft comes up with.
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...is that Apple brought back that cool tile-unscrambling game from the pre-OSX era!
...
what i'd really like to see is an x86 port of their operating system...
Umm... have you heard of this thing called Darwin? Mac OS X is basically Darwin layered with Apple's Aqua interface. (Well, that, plus all the nifty apps like iChat and iMovie and those other things that are OS X-only...)
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Just having visited Yosemite National Park, CA, I thought thought it was Yosemite.
Apple also seems to "feature" Yosemite on it's Tiger pages.
IBM launched the T221 over a year ago.
This baby is has "only" 22.2 inch, but a stunning resolution of 3840x2400 pixels (yes, that's 9.2 Megapixels)
The Nvidia Quadro Cards that support that kind of ultra-high resolution have been out for quite a while too.
So nothing new here, just shiny design.
I didn't say you were wrong to want that, I said you weren't going to get it.
And I'm still not going to get my unicorn.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
There is one of two reasons for my parent to be moderated "insightful"
Either way, this comment is far from insightful. Mod it Overrated, or Funny. I don't care. I don't need the karma.
P.S. if you fix the parent, go ahead and mod this one down as Offtopic.
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So if I wanted (and it somehow becomes possible in the future) to run SLI on one of these, I'd need 4 video cards. Egad.
Hmm... I recall a shareware that does something very similar... (you'd hit cmd-space or some other combination and a floating menu in the upper right corner would sift through contacts, files, etc as you typed) heh! It's cool that Apple has the resources and openmindedness to take a decent idea and polish it to the extreme; bitch & moan about "Apple ripping off the indies"? Well, an Exposé-like app was floating around in the 10.2 days, but it's usefullness was small because of it's sorry performance. Shure, a cool concept (Exposé IS cool) but some things you can't tack on like an aftermarket chrome exhaust (like many Windows apps...) So, given the screenshots Apple's inspiration is pretty clear (if only I could remember the app's name!)... it depends on how blazing fast their interpretation is (after all they have the will, money and recision power to plug in a live query sub in the filesystem core... )
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Cinema Display VESA Mount Adapter Kit for $29, isn't this even better? i might not understand what you are thinking of, but it opens up options for mounting.
The transition to OSX is still completely over and done. Again!
Personally I like this display from Sun. It has a USB hub, Svideo, DVI, and VGA inputs. It's matched the G5 since before the G5 came out and doesn't reuire a special video card.
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I would have owned a mac years before I finally bought one had they been more affordable. What this comes down to is market segmentation - the ability to maintain margins at the high end without abandoning the low end. Doing this effectively is unquestionably a good thing.
If Apple neglects the low end, it is because they don't think they can maintain margins on their better toys if they go for the cheaper market.
But at the point where there are millions of people who would legitimately get a mac if there was a cheaper one available...well...
And again, I say this as a powerbook owner.
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Now thats a monitor. Apparently even 4 dedicated DVI connectors isn't enough for bandwidth purposes.
Funny they never had that problem with CRTs...... but they did have problems with signal reflections.
Umm... have you heard of this thing called Darwin?
I _HATE_ it when people bring up Darwin as if its equivalent to Mac OSX. Using Darwin is _not_ like using Mac OSX, and that is what is important to the user.
You want people to switch to Linux??? Make gnome work as well as Aqua and you're half-way there.
-B
Not to be nit-picky...
apparently you don't understand what supply and demand mean ... BECAUSE the demand is high, manufacturers can charge whatever they want.
No Sony CRT match this newest display though
anyone notice that digits on the calculator in the dashboard video are 'leet ?
2560-by-1600 is great ... but when will we get monitors and OS's that exceed the 72-dpi standard?
you probably think that the Rio and iPod are the same too...ass.
Jesus tap-dancing christ! After years of putting up with Microsoft's often sluggish innovations/updates and overall unreliability, I switched to a Mac. Now, I barely have time to learn my system before the next major update comes out. The speed of change is giving me geek-whiplash. I was surprised that Mac released Safari, did a couple of minor updates, but then hasn't continued to update it for Jaguar (well, at least not to the extent that they have for Panther). If they only focus support and innovation on the newest OS, but then release a new system every year, people are going to feel that it's a big scam and a bad investment. OSes should be a stable foundation for building more great software on top of. Apple is just rebuilding foundations and there's not enough time for users to build a strong and consistent powerhouse on top.
Plus, it took me months to get into the groove of using expose and the new finder design! I like it, but give me time to appreciate the system in it's entirety before releasing a new one. I don't think I'm going to buy this update - a lot of the new features just seem superfluous.
An operating system shouldn't be 100% old news after only a year or so. Panther still looks, feels, and acts spiffy and new to me. If there's a small update or addition to be had, make it a downloadable update. Most of these features just aren't worthy of an entire new release.
I'm not saying I miss Micro$oft's inconsistent OS updates, but I definitely think Apple should slow down and take their time a little more than they are.
I mean, really.
Dashboard looks like it does everything konfabulator does, with possibly a smidge more tossed in. Oh, and no registration reminder. Bet those guys are happy.
How about they just make the iPod not blow chunks? I mean, get real, the only thing it has going for it is that it's "cute", and iTunes.
I shelled out (on a whim) $400 of hard earned money on the one I got, and I was extremely dissapointed.
It had:
* Crappy battery life (not even as much as the claimed 8 hours -- more like 5) On top of that, the piece of crap never really shuts off, so even while "off" it's still eating battery life.
* Not very good sound (I've heard better from iRiver, et al.) -- horrible standard ear plugs.
* VERY crappy interface (the latest model has touch sensitive buttons, which makes it a total pain to use while riding a bike, hiking, or any other time your finger might be a bit shaky. Buttons would be a much better.)
* Only supports ACC and MP3 (no Ogg, WAV, etc.)
* Craptacular materials for the faceplate that get seriously scratched by soft plastics.
* Very Pricey - Other companies (such a iRiver) are putting out cheaper players that have tons more features (optical in/out, onboard mic, etc.) and storage (40GB for $50 less than a 20GB iPod).
I dumped mine after only a week.
So, why not ask for a non craptacular iPod to develop for before you ask for the SDK?
MilesTeg
Be careful, Microsoft might also accidentally copy open sourced licensing from Tiger into Longhorn as well, can't have that now can we? ;)
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I wonder if Apple did anything to Tiger to prevent it from being used in that Pear PPC emulator?
I also wonder what Tiger Woods thinks about the next MacOSX being named in his honor? If not Tiger Woods, then who, Tony the Tiger?
Also nice to see rather than offering a free upgrade ala BSD Unix, that Apple is charging for the Tiger upgrade. Very good for those who want to pay for service packs that fix the exploits that Panther had.
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IBM has some professional LCD touch screen monitor for 5M pixel a few years ago already, which need 4 video card to power(2 maxtor dual head). that was for graphic design. :D
what do I use 2560x1600 resolution for? graphic design only? I'd rather get 2 DELL 21 LCD for $700 each and the combined resolution is much better than this apple and more practical.
apple hasnot been ahead in tech for many years.
i know some jackass always says it, but I'm not paying $129.95 for the latest upgrade. I'll just wait for Lion, Cheetah, or OrangeTabby, whatever Apple's next cat upgrade is. it's all supercool stuff, but i'm a poor college student, not big-time 'i think i'll drop three grand on one of those cool 30 inch monitors... maybe two' core image looks real promising for UI programmers.
I'm working on a graphic novel. Pages are 8x10 at 300dpi. IF I could run one of these 30" displays vertically- in portrait mode- I'd be able to fit the entire page on the display at 100% of its size. Not so horizontally.
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Radius made a display (that capped out at 1024x768) that could run portrait or landscape- it swiveled on its base and it was basically a driver configuration thinger that switched modes. A friend of mine uses one STILL to this day on a beige mac- because that display gives him EXACTLY what he needs in terms of aspect ratio.
Why Apple doesn't do portrait mode on their displays is totally beyond me.
Isn't that the same as the *nix command locate? I know I didn't RTFA, but I'd guess it'd just be a GUI for locate, where as their current search is probably a GUI for find... locate doesn't bog down some of the damn slow computers I have freebsd on, no reason to think it would on an apple.
How is the searching so fast? I can understand if you use a B-Tree or B+ Tree for left hand side substrings (slashd*, microso*), but how do they do it for substrings inside the word, like...
*ai* will return Mail.app...
*ashd* returns slashdot.org...
etc
Anyone know of a data structure for that? I'm really curious.
I do hope they meant "rsync".
if they sold these things at the lowest possicle price to cover cost and profit. hello, welcome to capitalism, this is not going to happen. Profit is good and they will charge as much as they can get away with as will anyone else. Just because you want one doesn't mean they ill change.
Your CPU is not doing anything else, at least do something.
That's 80 lines in the HUGE 10x20 font, minus a
bit for window decorations.
In the default xterm font, it's 123 lines.
You can put 4 xterms side-by-side.
At least, that's not quite the way I read it, although there's obvious functionality overlap. It looks like Spotlight is taking advantage of the metadata search system in Tiger -- this sounds to me a lot like an implementation of BeOS's beautiful search functionality. (Panther is there in the speed, but BeOS allowed all that useful metadata searching that Panther's system doesn't -- Tiger's apparently does.)
you need to drop your font size...
1. Ok, perhaps that is slightly far-fetched.
Konfabulator was a very original piece of software. I can't think of anything else like it. Apparently, Arlo can't as well... and he once worked as a UI designer for Apple.
Dashboard is practically a direct rip-off of Konfabulator. It comes with similar default "widgets," widgets are transparent and glossy, and new widgets can be developed with JS.
Moreover, Apparently Konfabulator is very popular at Apple and Pixar (lots of registered Apple and Pixar users). Schiller supposedly loves the damn thing.
I have no problems with Apple adding something like this into MacOS. However, once they start stomping on the rights of small developers, that's fucking low. This is the second time they've done this, and this time it's an even more blatant case of copyright infringement.
If Apple had developed Konfabulator, and Arlo had developed dashboard 1 year later, Arlo would've been nailed by Apple's legal department.
Why should we even attempt to develop platform specific utilities and software for OS X? If it becomes popular, Apple is going to snag it, make money off of it, and not compensate the original authors.
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What connector does their new gfx card use ?r eca rd_20040628.jpg
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It dosn't look like AGP.
I could be wrong though, but could it be pci express ?
What's so amazing to me about dashboard is that it is a more innovative way to do what Microsoft Longhorn's Sidebar is trying to do. Take a look here and you tell me that Apple didn't see Microsoft's sidebar and figured out that Expose would let them do something that Microsoft couldn't even think of.
I am absolutely thrilled by the prospect of Dashboard not cluttering up my screen with "essential" information. Microsoft's Sidebar is translucent and floating on the right side but its constricted to that finite pixel width. Apple's solution is characteristicly Apple and its just a damn good way to use the Quartz engine. I think this really is a kick into the ribs of Longhorn, so far from screenshots I think its pretty clear Apple has solved this problem better than Microsoft.
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... can anyone of you fellow slashdotters see any which way Mickeysoft Windoze has an edge over todays Linux/x86 for standard working enviroments and Mac OS X for high end desktop computing experience? Could it just really be that MS has to get it's stuff together or else they're in for some serious business trouble?
Not only have I allways believed (known) that MS will be severely cornered by Linux/OSS, but I'm also starting to believe that they'll have a hard time positioning themselves between Linux and it's zero-fuss alternative Mac OS X.
I've been running Linux as my only OS since 3 years now and just recently got myself an iBook. I didn't change the OS and I have to say that I'm completely sold. Aqua has some quirky downsides compared to a well configured Fluxbox or Windowmaker, but all the rest is just one big consistency orgasm that makes up for it tenfold. The ease of a system that installs your printer by having it plugged into one of it's USB ports combined with a terminal that's two clicks away from running with Z-Shell and two clicks to get Apache running with PHP and MySQL simply is a completely different league than any Windows crap you can think of.
So, once again, my question in a different way: How many years before Mickeysoft effectively loses it's monopoly?
I say 3 years. 2007 and they're de-throned. That was my call 2 years ago and I'm getting more and more shure about it by the minute.
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Rootbear
You know you will It like telling your buddies i wont sleep with that fat chick at the bar but you do it anyway at 2am
The 64 bit os is great my department really needs that. but i was somewhat underwhelmed.
These are the things i was truly hoping for
- IPDA or some kind of PDA that is fully integrated with apple
- Ebooks or some kind of apple based text book and manual device for education purposes
- ICar or in dash navigation music and On-star system
I know that this seems like a pipe dream but these are the things that the market really needs.Their is also a mention of unifying all service launching under a single command lauchd. this coul dbe nice to keep track of what is going on and making sure compatible sets of processes get launched together much the way firewall now adapts to running service automatically by opening and closing their ports as needed.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
It's almost always been this way. Some feature gets added by third-party developers - via shareware, etc. Apple takes notice of the usage, and provides a less klunky, more integrated version of the same App. Has been this way, will continue to be this way. Go back to System... what.. 3?
Watson did Sherlock better, Apple did Watson better.
Konfabulator
In Apple's version, the widgets are hidden until the dashboard is activated, at which time they slide to the foreground.
In my opinion, Apple's solution is a lot more elegant, and one I'd actually use. It's a subtle difference, but it's different. I also applaud the addition of the widget launcher... much better than having all widgets running at all times.
The argument is really about whether this is a rebirth of Apple's old Desk Accessory application type or just a ripoff of the Konfabulator widget idea, or some hybrid of the two.
Notice how they have the Slashdot RSS in thier Screenshot?
Prett ulgy in this cg from apples site: here
For what? For writing some cool widgets that acess interfaces Apple published allowing for that functionality to be capitalized on by themselves and any one else?
You're acting like this Service is something that would take years of design/development to produce when these add-ons were sitting around Apple Engineering for years as fun experiments for core engineers. How do I know this? When I worked there they had plenty of 'cool' prototype ideas just waiting to be added into the OS. How do you think they are able to always add 150 new features with each new full version?
What's next? Pay everyone who contributed to the development of XML now that Apple is integrating it into their OS? That seems to be a bit more impressive, just like the new MPEG-4, Part 10 Codecs.
So where is Aqua for x86 then??????? What, it doesn't exist? Then keep your smartass mouth shut! Thank you.
Compare it to a new LCD TV. At least here, it turns out that the 30" display is only $500CDN more than a 30" LCD television. Apple's not charging an outrageous price, even if it is high. Apparently, the market is willing to bear that kind of price.
apparently you don't understand what supply and demand mean ... BECAUSE the demand is high, manufacturers can charge whatever they want.
Of course i understand that. $4000? Thats greed not capitalism. Not really supply and demand. The demand is high as far as i'm concerned. There isnt a person on this forum that wouldnt stand there fist full of dollars to buy one if the price were right.
Will the number sold at $4000 out number the sales if they had sold them at $800 ??
If capitalism is about getting rich while exploiting overseas slaves to manufacture your $4000 picture tube...
Leave me out of it. Frankly i think its best that we stop ripping each other off, and start selling things at fair prices.
Capitalism is fine... But when its used to profit at the expense of all else...
shame on us.
But I was taking a look at these displays on the Apple Site, and I really didn't like the power brick shown in one of the Quicktime VR links. Since the 20 and 23 inch Displays are more or less the same display as before, couldn't they just have an ADC cable *option*, instead of the new Firewire, USB 2.0, DVI and power cable? ADC is based on DVI, so would it be that hard to make an ADC/Firewire Cable for us Apple users who actually like our ADC interface?
I've seen this display (actually, IBM's Roentgen display, the immediate predecessor of the Viewsonic model). It is utterly fantastic, with some caveats.
;-) or blockyness. The detail on high-res museum art scans was astonishing.
It was originally designed to have the resolution and quality needed for certain xray diagnostics and other image-sensitive telemedicine applications as a primary market (thus the Roentgen name -- the discoverer of X-Rays). One of the demos I saw used a modified version of (IIRC) Framemaker to display a document with footnotes with a 4pt physical size. The serifs on the font were clearly visible, with no eyestrain (due to the monitor, anyways
HOWEVER, this is roughly a 200dpi display -- current operating systems simply aren't designed for screens with pixel density this high. GUI widgets and text are often ridiculously small.
That, plus the original display required a four-head graphics card (or cards w/ four total outputs) to drive it. Looks like the newer Viewsonic uses four separate DVI-D connections.
Finally, Apple isn't selling 2 year outdated displays. The contrast range is still somewhat depressingly low, but the rest of the specs are a good improvement. Brightness could be better as well, these clearly aren't going to be ideal for media work (just like the old apple LCD displays, contrary to popular opinion).
Presently here, but not there.
Just because you want one doesn't mean they ill change.
There's a new concept... "just because the consumers want one... dont sell it to all of them"
I want one yes. Do i need one? NO. Would i buy one if it were $800. You bet your fucking ass.
How many here really need a $4000 monitor. Major Corperations wont evey pay that much for a single fucking monitor. Give me a break.
Lets see I can get that 21inch sony for $750 for my 30 employees... or i can buy them all nice 30inch monitors because apples making them.
hmmm easy choice i think.
NO ONE NEEDS A $4000 monitor. 30inch or not. If apple wants to CHANGE the industry.. they should attempt to do so by being affordable enough to buy the dam thing.
Once people buy the dam thing... at an affordable price... They will have outclassed the competition and then inspire new competition.
They're affraid to compete perhaps... or just greedy.
free upgrade
You are joking, right?
I work for a scientific publisher, and every time we try to put one of our manuals either on disc, online, or as an e-book, they've all failed miserably compared with the print editions. Biologists, who you'd think would be on the cutting edge of technology, want their manuals in dead tree form. So viva the printing industry.
The Viwesonic and this IBM monitor look like twins....hmmmm....
http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servle
I do know that IBM has had this monitor available for the last 2.5 years - including the special Matrox card to drive it.
Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.
Konfabulator is not an original idea at all, sorry. Classic Mac OS had desk accessories since 1984, Windows 98 had its Active Desktop (which nobody ever used because it was too unstable, but did much the same thing). The only thing new here is using Javascript, and Windows did that almost a decade ago.
I have sympathy for Perry and Arlo, but I'm not about to vilify Apple over bringing DAs into the 21st century.
Apple's not charging an outrageous price, even if it is high. Apparently, the market is willing to bear that kind of price.
The market? Which market is that? The market willing to buy a $5000 plasma TV is pretty dam slim compared to those who ACTUALLY WOULD BUY ONE IF THEY WERE AFFORDABLE.
The millions they could rake in.. if they actually sold to the millions of people who want one. But instead they'll sell them to the few thousands who are early biters.
Its a bad move for humanity. It slows down the adoption of new technology, and it hurts profit. It may earn them profit over the long run but really the companies just do this to insure their seat as a corperation among the world.
If they all sold items at an affordable price and we bought them all instantly... they would profit faster.. but competition would be far more feirce. AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE AFFRAID OF... LOSING.
Check your own vision, unless you ahve a defect, you see a far greater amount horizontally than vertically. Thus is makes sense that our displays be likewise. Also it's probably 16:10, not 16:9. I dunno why computer displays are slightly different, but almost all of them are.
Capitalism == Greed. If Apple doesn't sell these puppies, the price will go down.
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You misspelled "KDE."
No, you don't get it. That's not suuply and demand at all.
Supply and demand is an equation. If the demand is high and the supply is limited then the price will be higher. If the demand is low and the supply the price will drop.
Take an economics class.
As for the supply, it is low. Any new product is going to priced high at introduction, unless the manufacturer/seller is willing to take a loss-leader to get market share or hope that you'll buy more things while buying that item. Because the product has not been in production long there is a limited number of units. Limited number of units equals low supply. Add to this that flat-panel yields of this size are still pretty low due to the sheer number of possible dead pixels per display (and dead pixel units should be shitcanned at the plant).
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write a fucking letter to them, telling them you know better, or shut the fuck up.
As I understand it, resource forks are now a legacy feature of Mac OS 9. Cocoa applications store their resources in a special directory structure called an application bundle. Most data formats -- including compressed files, images, Adobe formats, Microsoft formats, PDF, and on and on -- haven't required the use of resource forks in years. Can't we finally retire this non-feature that was a clever idea if anybody else was going to support it, but a horrible impediment to cross-platform compatibility?
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These started off as third-party extensions for System 6 (yes, I'm that old) and by system 7 were built in. And don't get me started about other Apple features which are clearly a rip off of Boomerang.
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If you look at the quicktime movie of the Dashboard in action, one of the Widgets is a little game called "Tile" that is like the "Puzzle" desk accessory in OS 6+... Now nobody can complain anymore that there aren't any games for MacOS!!!
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Please tell me you're joking. As far as technical competence goes, bioligists are just above the pre-med morons in my book. I know biologists - at a top school - who use tables to figure out buffer pH's because using a simple equation from freshman chemistry was too hard.
I try to avoid gross oversimplifications, but generally chemists do a LOT better in bio classes than the other way around. (I'll let the physicists make similar comments about chemistry, and the mathematicians do the same for physics).
Odds are, Apple pulled what they did with Soundjam and bought the program and developers. If you go to Konfabulator.com, they say get the original Dashboard before the first half of 2005.
Gorkman
I hate to reply to myself, but I forgot to post the why about Soundjam. Soundjam and it's developers were pretty much bought up by Apple to make iTunes.
Gorkman
1. A lot of Mac users are recent converts from Linux/Windows.
2. The only ones of us who remember the Joys of DA/FONT Mover, were around pre System 7. If we add in the age at when people first start using a computer at the level required to use DA's, we come to a number that is larger then the age of many slashdot readers.
People said no will buy a $3500 monitor back when the 23" CInema Display came out. Obiviously someone bought it. I even know a few who did. While I admit, this seems to be pushing the boundaries of what someone may pay for a monitor, I do think there are people who will buy it. Video Editing Suites will probably have one in each master suite. I could see it as a master video monitor for the client to look at while they sit on the other side of the room in their plush leather couch (video suites are nice and usually full of a million or so dollars worth of equipment and furniture, at least the nicer ones I've seen.). They may not reflect a huge number, but it does start making the technology available to those who would use it. Hopefully bring down the price after it's been on the market for awhile. Early adopters almost always get the premium price.
InstantCool
Well, consider that the price to produce most of this stuff is quite high. Companies are trying to make back their investments in
1) Research
2) Design
3) Parts
4) Fabrication
If they sold everything on razor slim margins, they might make back the money on the parts and fab, but they're still out for research and design.
Trust that these corporations have gone and done the studies to see what price they should be offering this stuff at to maximize their profits and get as many of your dollars as possible. If something costs $5000, it's because selling it for $5000 makes them more money than selling a few more, but at $2000.
Most people up on stocks knows that Merrill Lynch was predicting new iMac announcements at WWDC.
They don't announce them and like pouting children Wall Street responds by punishing the stock down nearly $1.25.
I personally think Steve loves to poke at them once in a while.I expect the iMac to be announced closer to August in time to hit a big splash with the Education sector once again.
A number of companies (Totoku, Barco, Dome, Viewsonic) have been selling IBM's T221 9 megapixel displays for years. 3940 x 2400. Now that's some pixels. The picture is amazing. The pixels sure are tiny.... And it's only about 80% the cost per pixel of apple's display.
The press release makes it sound like it's the highest resolution display (the "biggest high resolution display").
an 21" NEC CRT back around '94...
Oh, if only I waited...
Tho' it did survive getting tossed on the ground after the Cali' earthquake... I wouldn't wanna try that with a new 30" LCD...
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There is always GNU Darwin [gnu-darwin.org]. It's no Mac OS X, but it uses the same kernel.
Or you could emulate your x86 processor to act like a PowerPC one with PearPC [sourceforge.net], and then install Mac OS X. Might be best to go with the real thing, though.
Am I the only one who is could care less about Tiger and more about XCode 2? I hope not. I'm not that much of a loser, am I? :)
... what really sets the G4 and the G5 apart from the P4 and Opteron is the presence of the VMX/Altivec/Velocity Engine unit (to use AIM/Motorola/Apple nomenclature). This unit allows you to process up to 4 32-bit values (128-bits) at the same time with one instruction (Single Instruction, Multiple Data).
Two words, one hyphenated:
auto-vectorizing compiler.
For those wondering what this is
Intel CPU's do have this technology as well, although it's half the width (64-bits at a time, rather than 128-bit).
When Apple posts benchmarks showing their machines to be faster than x86 machines, the benchmarks almost always make heavy use of these SIMD instructions... and rightly so. A vectorized application can be enormously fast compared to it's analog floating point/integer application.
The problem is that the SIMD instructions are relatively tough to use... you have to be very careful when taking advantage of them, otherwise your applications could actually run -slower-.
With the auto-vectorizing version of GCC included with XCode 2, we could start to see see some very respectable performance coming out of Macintosh applications in the future. Obviously you probably won't be able to simply recompile your application, but surely taking advantage of the auto-vectorization will be far easier than writing to the standard vec_x functions.
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SunOS panda 5.10 Generic sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2
It's supply and demand. (oh yeah)
Demand is huge.
Supply is limited.
Price will be high.
...Profit
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Gawd, you just don't get it do you, there are designers in the studio where I work who will literally wet their khaki corduroy pants over this, not matter how many video cards it requires. Screen real-estate isn't important to the average programmer geek or management wonk, but to a designer (who by definition are very visual people), to have all their tools on screen at once is priceless.
The cost, sure it's expensive, but two things; one, it's Apple, Apple users expect to pay more, and most of the time prefer to pay for quality over quantity, two, for the percieved effect it will have on productivity, a couple of decent paying clients will cover the cost of one of these.
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I'm extremely dissapointed that the Sync SDK still requires a $100 a year .mac membership in order to sync across a network. To date iDisk is the only "real-time" file sync system available for the MacOS, and there's no such thing as iDisk Server for MacOS. :(
I had the same experience as you -- just 2 weeks ago I emailed a rant to some friends about the fact that the WIMP / Desktop metaphor has been only incrementally improved since 20 years ago. (I'm serious -- while there have been lots of increments, where's the revolution?)
.cshrc", not to mention more intuitive than "open -a TextEdit .cshrc". The man pages are a joke. Xcode 2 promises better developer documentation, but we shall see.
I mentioned an idea like Dashboard / Konfabulator, without consciously knowing about Konfabulator. Now that I know about it, I am trying it out and I will pay for it if I continue using it.
What about other innovations? I also use Workstrip, which solves a few weaknesses in the Dock.
I'm still waiting for CDE-like 'workspaces' however -- where windows and desktops can be hidden easily according to function. Expose is a good feature, but I would also like workspaces.
Another thing I wonder about: why hasn't Apple done a better job of integrating the GUI with the CLI? I just found out about open(1), which can send an open message to any Finder application. But it's much easier on other Unix systems to simply type "edit
What about shells / terminal apps? Why are we still having to use only the keyboard to navigate the Command Line Interface? The only GUI elements that seem to have made it into the terminal are a scroll bar and a split window. I could imagine at least two improvements: a split window with the history buffer, and better navigation of CLI text (perhaps using table cells).
It's possible that I'm the only guy in the world who wants better GUI/CLI integration, but I suspect not.
And don't forget that BeOS had replicants, which were also along the same lines. (And according to the Be developers it took about 100 lines of code and about a day to write the replicant code in the OS, while Active Directory was thousands upon thousands of lines of code and took over a year.)
Also, it looks a lot like gdesklets and superkaramba. I think this is a pretty common idea these days.
I don't know, but the proverbial shit is already hitting the fan. :-)
I agree too... I think it's wrong to get pissed and cry Monopoly at Microsoft when they integrate ZIP technology, anti-virus, and photo software in to their software but let Apple get a free pass when they take something so obviously Konfabulator down to the JavaScript and bankrupt a company of their own.
Innovation never sleeps? Neither does the grabbing from smaller third party apps, I would seem.
Deep down inside, I think this is a vaporware thing.. something that will disappear in 10.4. I didn't see anything that great in 10.4, and I think a lot of neat things are still being worked on.. this was a smoke screen...
I do like the BSD kernel update and all, and Xcode is what made me jump out of my seat! Full scale object modeling! Holy Shit! Only pay-players like IBM's Websphere Studio (VisualAge) and JBuilder do that!
And it'll be free (relatively)
That I want now
There is a rage in me to defy the order of the stars, despite their pretty patterns.
That's a pretty big assumption. I'm an ex-Apple developer, and I'd be pretty annoyed if everyone assumed every Mac app I write is a rip-off of Apple IP.
The score was -1 because that was the poster's starting level, not because it was modded down.
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Sigh, when is Mozilla going to have RSS support built-in?? Safari is fast but not functional enough for me (e.g. cookie/popup management.)
HOWEVER, this is roughly a 200dpi display -- current operating systems simply aren't designed for screens with pixel density this high. GUI widgets and text are often ridiculously small.
Shouldn't be a massive problem to overcome on Mac OS X. The imaging layer Quartz is, after all, Display PDF. It shouldn't be too difficult for Apple to persuade Quartz to render at a different resolutions.
Actually the new 30" display costs $3299 before taxes, not $3900.
You can verify the price in the Apple Store.
I care that you miswrote "could care less" when you actually meant "couldn't care less".
They are the same. ViewSonic is basically selling OEM version with his own logo. Everything else is the same.
You gave me some good pointers, BUT I'm not all the way there yet. At least in my version of Terminal (1.4.3) the split is just a display split. I would like it to exclude terminal output -- just include the history buffer. I bet there's some emacs thing that does that, but emacs just isn't my bag.
The opt-click thing is OK, much the same as previous terminal appls I have used. But the table-cell thing would be nice for some situations where I really do want to treat text as a table (in the shell). Maybe I'll have to make time to do it myself...
Model T210 with 2048x1536 resolution was even better fir for the market. I don't know really why IBM has canceled this model because nicely fills gap between L200P and T221.
No they didn't.
Here's a link to the konfabulator message boards, in which Arlo Rose says:
"Nope, no offer"
Cupertino, start your photocopiers (oh, and don't forget to print those big posters about Microsoft stealing Tiger features).
So I don't see how expanded user base helps...
Apart from the 64 bit processing, it sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Oh well, I'm happy with 10.3 on my iMac for now. Seeing as I won't be buying a new Mac until long after Tiger has been released, I'll just content myself with Panther until then.
Not to mention that it brings some of the concepts presented with Sun's Project Looking Glass to market, and you can bet that there will be more...
By looking at the amusing and clever jabs at Microsoft from Apple. It appears that Apple seems to think of Microsoft as more competition than linux ...
Either that, or Apple is just having some good old fun (something the PC industry is in dire need of).
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Sigh!
If I had mod points, I'd mad you informative. Okay, since I already commented in this discussion, I couldn't do that.
So, +1 Informative. There ya go. You deserve it, buddy. ^_~
I bought an Apple 23" Cinema display to go with my new G5 last November. I took one look at it set to its default resolution (1600x1200) and sent it back to Apple. For anything other than video editing these displays are absolutely useless. LCDs lose clarity at anything other than their default resolution and even with 23" 1600x1200 is far too high for work with text and static images.
Apple should include a warning with these products to the effect that they are only useful for video editing. You can fiddle with your desktop text settings 'til the cows come home but load a web page in Dreamweaver or a logo in Photoshop and you'll see how the Cinema display compounds the problem of working with Apple's native 72dpi.
Aggregating DVI channels is pretty extreme, but I wonder how high a resolution LCD manufacturers could produce using (multiple) PCI express? Decent frame rate as well?
is apple sticking with X11, or will they also switch over to X-Org?
Supply and demand is an equation. If the demand is high and the supply is limited then the price will be higher. If the demand is low and the supply the price will drop.
Take an economics class.
Yes i get that. These arent Ford GTs we're talking about. We're talking about monitors that come off an assembly line. Does apple even manufacture the monitor?
Yes new items will be priced high... i understand greed. I get it. But $4000?
I guess if you absolutely require a 30inch display.. its you're only option. But i cant fathom anyone other than the military buying these things for $4000 each.
I'll stick with my dual sony 21s... and maybe i'll pick up one of those nice 30inch Apple monitors around 2009.
The two major uses of Macs that I recall were the Siemens Icon nuclear medicine workstations from about ten years ago, and the G3 boxes that GE used four or five years ago in their first generation PACS system, I think for modality interfaces. Both satisfactory for their times, but ran OS versions 7-9 with occasional crashes.
Some researchers use OS X for their own niche applications, but that's about it, as far as I know. Which is a shame, as OS X would totally rock as a PACS workstation or 3D image reconstruction station..
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write a fucking letter to them, telling them you know better, or shut the fuck up.
Here's my asshole troll.. Suck it... Just push your dead mothers head to the side first.
Fucking coward. Atleast i speak my mind, while you hide behind the curtains like the pussy your daddy raised you to be.
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People said no will buy a $3500 monitor back when the 23" CInema Display came out. Obiviously someone bought it. I even know a few who did.
:)
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I too know someone who had sony 23 inch screens a few years ago.
I rarely see them though on anyones desk, anywhere these days. I guess the price never came down. Here's looking forward to the 30inch in 2008!
While I admit, this seems to be pushing the boundaries of what someone may pay for a monitor, I do think there are people who will buy it. Video Editing Suites will probably have one in each master suite. They may not reflect a huge number, but it does start making the technology available to those who would use it.
I've been to enemy winning editing studios here in New York on many occasions. None of that fancy equipt has ever really come down in price. Most of the editors working at these studios, do not own any of this equiptment at home
I get your point though. Its new... its going to be making its way into where ever, at some point. Just dont expect it anytime soon.
Early Adopters always get a premium price... but so do late adopters. A lot of this equiptment NEVER comes down in price. Take the Sony TRV900 camcorder. 3 CCD chip camera, phenominal image quality... it cost $2500. Now you can find it for about $1500 or so. But Sony released the TRV950. Same camera basically.. cheaper case design... Still extremely high priced, while the cheapo camcorders are $300 to $1000
Some stuff makes its way down... other things do not.
Obviously their target is not mainstream user. Because he or she cant afford it. The price will not drop on these monitors until someone offers a competing item.
Actually, what would really be cool is if Apple would help out with GNUStep - you could have *real* OS X on a Mac with all the eye candy and cutting-edge innovation, and Darwin + GNUStep on x86 that could still run Cocoa apps and otherwise be compatible, but not as "cool."
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Gawd, you just don't get it do you, there are designers in the studio where I work who will literally wet their khaki corduroy pants over this, not matter how many video cards it requires. Screen real-estate isn't important to the average programmer geek or management wonk, but to a designer (who by definition are very visual people), to have all their tools on screen at once is priceless.
:) I'm a 3d animator for film and videogames as well as an editor.
:) I cant afford one, and most places will not shell out this much money for a 30inch monitor for all of their animators.
:)
;)
But i do get it. I am a DESIGNER
I DO GET IT. I NEED one
Yes some will show up somewhere, because some boss is like "Whoa... i gotta have it" But it wont be on many desks.
You're point about apple over charging stands though. I never understood the arogance that comes from the apple crowd.
In the editing world.. i deal with folks who blindly love the mac because of protools, yet every time we deal with protools.. its like pulling teeth. These so called "mac experts" simply drive a single app, and cant do anything else to their mac
So we take the whole project into vegas, do the dam thing... boom done, so much easier to use... performs better... we just dont get to claim we used protools (cause its cool to do so)
BAH mac users
Bah their $4000 monitors too. Though i'm sure they're nice.
Well, consider that the price to produce most of this stuff is quite high. Companies are trying to make back their investments in
Absolutely. The question is though, how much does it cost to manufacture, and whats a fair profit?
And would they not make back their investment even faster, if they sold more at a lower price?
(Of course this is if supplies are available regularly) Does Apple manufacture them or buy the parts from some taiwan monitor company?
Um, doesn't a Ford GT come off an assembly line? I fail to see what the means of mass assembly for every commodity manufactured for the past hundred years has to do with this conversation.
Congratulations! Two red herrings in one paragraph!
I'm betting that Apple doesn't make them directly. But I'm also betting that the company with whom they have contracted doesn't make them cheaply. It's not like this is a simple $200 TV that you would find at Besty Buy just made real big-like and marked up 2000%. There are engineering costs, manufacturing costs, and R&D costs to be recouped. Oh, and the shareholders would prefer that Apple not give them away without taking in some money to repay them for their kind investments.
Well, along with two red herrings, you've also thrown in a whooper of a rounding inaccuracy. $4000 may be closer to $3299 than $0, but it's still $701 away from Apple's actual price for this monitor. Considering that a few years ago a 20-inch monitor was selling for a similar amount, $3299 is not a bad price for a quality display -- particularly if your work (prepress, graphic design, photo editing, video editing, etc.) requires a lot of real estate.
Review the economics lessons alluded to earlier in the thread. Early adopters pay a premium because they want or need the product. No one is forcing them to pay $3299 for anything. If a user can't afford today's price tag, they wait until it goes down or until they can afford it. In the meantime, Apple gets to recoup its costs. As production ramps up, as Apple's bills get paid, and as fewer and fewer people are willing to pay $3299 for this fine product, the price will, without a doubt, go down. And all without Apple forcing anyone to do anything they didn't want to do.
Oh, those damn dirty capitalists!
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I have very few problems with this display and WinXP, certainly none involving GUI widgets. It boots into a low-res mode which is quite irritating and Minesweeper is quite difficult.
The monitor requires two DVI connections, not four (it has A and B inputs though). The four sections of the screen are updated by interleaving thus providing an effective 30Hz refresh. Not good for gaming or 60 fps video but fantastic otherwise. Anyone who thinks this new Apple display is the definitive content creation display knows nothing of the real king.
So, looks like we're going to have to buy this update, again. How much is it going to cost to steop up to 10.4.
I am working on my PhD in CS and have had to do a decent amount of coding. I have a Dual G5 2 GHz with the 23" display which sits right next to my Dual Xeon 2.4 GHz WinXP Pro box with a 19" display (which sits right next to my Duran 1.3 GHz Linux box with no monitor). I have to say that getting the 23" display was worth every cent. I barely touch my WinXP box, and only to run my applications. One important thing... the new displays are DVI, not the Apple Cinema Display adapter (which carries power and USB), which means that you should probably be seeing a driver from NVidia for windows boxes at some point. Do it. You will not be sorry (just poor).
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Capitalism is all about greed -- greed on behalf of both consumers and producers. The consumers may want them, but how badly? Surely there will be those consumers who are greedy enough for the first units to pay top dollar for that privelege. Just because you're not one of them doesn't make them bad people, does it?
And yet, there are others for whom $3299 is the right price. Why should Apple ignore them and their checkbooks for people who aren't willing to pay that much? Remember, Apple's first loyalty, like any for-profit company, is to maximize profits. As long as consumers are willing to help them to that end, they will serve those consumers.
Probably not. But Apple isn't in the business of moving units; they're in the business of maximizing revenue. They most certainly could sell n units at $800. But out of that set of n people, there may also be q people who are willing to buy the displays at $3299. And r who are willing to buy the displays at $2500 per unit. And s at $2000 per unit. And t at $1500 per unit. So at the end of the day, which makes Apple's accountants and shareholders happier? $800*n? or ($3299*q) + ($2500*r) + ($2000*s) + ($1500*t) + ($800*(n-(q+r+s)))?
I am not 100% positive, but I am pretty sure that Apple would probably be strongly opposed to using slaves to manufacture video displays. If you can prove that they are actually using slaves, please do so; otherwise I think we can safely say that you are grandstanding for maximum guilt effect.
At any rate, who is getting ripped off? The people who are freely giving their money in exchange for the product they desire? The people who are working in a factory in exchange for the salary they agreed to receive? I'm not seeing any ripoffs here. And as long as someone is willing to pay the price tag, the price is fair.
Congratulations. That might be the best damnation of capitalism based on not wanting to pay the asking price of a brand new product that I've read all week.
They're not crippled. The only thing you (still) can't do is sync directly Mac-to-Mac. Even if you don't have .Mac, you can still sync via a portable device or whatever.
At least, that's how I read the site.
Just to show that I'm not making this up, here is a link I found via Google explaining the copy protection.
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http://www.hobbytheater.com/guides/cabling/dvi.
The important text is;
DVI offers enhanced copyprotection through HDCP. HDCP is a specification developed by Intel Corporation to protect digital entertainment content across the DVI interface.
The truth shall set you free!
ATi's had this display (the IBM version) hidden in their booth at the last two MacWorlds. They were running it off a single card, since to run full resolution you could have the screamin' refresh rate of 10Hz. At the full resolution, the mouse pointer is very difficult to find, around 1/8" wide (too lazy to do the math.) Definitly for x-rays and things that require a high dpi display for critical applications.
Some days I feel like Schrodinger's cat.
Thanks for pointing out that article! See, I knew I had some kind of smarts SOMEWHERE in there. It just so happens I have slow smarts - where I think up good ideas that have already been thought of.
I'm glad to see that they're already planning that. Apple is still #1 in my book, and I do suppose it's better to have too much innovation than not enough.
Just because HDCP is available over DVI, it doesn't mean it's standard. No video cards I know of use it. It's meant for high definition digital television and DVD players, not for computer use. In fact, most of the TVs out there that have DVI don't even require an HDCP connection. HDCP is meant to prevent people from being able to easily circumvent DVD copy protection. Also, there are HDCP compliant repeaters and splitters available, so you can output to multiple displays.
It is remarkably similar to the search interface provided by Palm OS, 'cept a whole lot faster. All applications are capable of extending the search scope through their own DBs and filetypes.
The IBM T221 has a resolution of 3840x2400 in 22.2".
Whilst its RRP from IBM is $8,399 USD you can find some resellers advertising them for $3,999 USD on froogle such as this.
So the apple display is... considerably cheaper, and larger, but I'd still like an IBM T221...
Rich toys for rich kids who in their self-absorption have turned their digital life into the epicenter of what makes life worthwhile.
Get to the poor neighborhoods of America where plenty of people do not have access to health care or a decent job,let alone a fancy computer. Get out a little more and find meaning beyond the latest techno gadget.
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As I've heard it, yes. And Apple bought Final Cut from Macromedia, iirc. On the other hand, they _do_ have a long history of - much like microsoft- taking commonly used third party extensions and incorporating them into the system. The Watson thing was a bit of a stink for some people: I'm just glad they stopped making Sherlock The Default Find Thinger. Hated it. :-/
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Considering everything Apple's reintegrated or swiped and called a "new feature", I can only hope that eventually they remember that whole WINDOWSHADING THING.
The other $600 comes from the graphics card to drive the thing.
And the Palm search technology is remarkably similar to what the Newton provided several years previously.
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"Originating from" back orifice's default port? Bah! Spoken like a whippersnapper with an uid in the seven hundred thousands.
Elite/eleet/3l33t/leet/31337 had been a running joke for many a year before back orifice. When cDc announced bo at defcon, the carefully-casual mention of its default port drew quite a laugh from the crowd.
Agreed. I don't feel the need for multiple desktops now I've got Expose either. But to make my window management experience complete, I'd like to see 2 (small) extra features added:
1) The ability to map the Yellow window button to Hide instead of Minimize. I never use it anymore, as it's much quicker to double-click on the title bar.
2) MOST importantly, once I've Hidden an app, I'd like to be able to unHide selected windows from that app. I'll give you an example. Open the Terminal app and start several instances that you then use to login to remote systems. I use a connection script that automatically sets the title to the connection name, and I can view/select the any one of them from the list presented by Ctrl-Click on the Terminal icon in the Dock. It would be VERY useful to Hide the Terminal windows and then just open up the ones I want to work on leaving the rest hidden. The advantage of this is that it doesn't clutter up the "iconized" portion of the Dock.
If you want all the Terminal windows back on the screen then (as now) you can just click the icon on the Dock to unHide them.
Another example where this would be useful is with Mail. Currently if I Hide Mail.app and then use Ctrl-Click to select "Compose New Message" from the Dock menu, then I get a new compose window, but it also unHides Mail.app in the process. I then have to iconsize Mail.app before I can continue because I didn't want to see it in the first place.
Is any of this making sense?
Sun:
24.1"
1920x1200
$3600
Apple:
23"
1920x1200
$2000
(Neither of which require an unusual video card.)
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1) If you know the demand is huge, why not start a company and make them and sell them?
Yeah yeah, the day of super easy venture capital is over... but venture capital is out there you just have to know how to sell your idea.
2) $3299? That's...
640 hours at 5.15/hr (which anyone with a job in the US can make)
22 hours at 150/hr (The billing rate of the Jr. members of the company I work for)
I've been rather happy about the haxie.
I don't even own a Mac, and I bought it! =P
('tis quite sad, I worked on a Mac back in the day, but no longer do...)
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Modding this comment as interesting goes beyond feeding the troll.
You're inviting him in to your house, cooking a three-course meal and shining his shoes and probably letting him have a tumble with your wife.
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I hereby nominate DVI Dual-Link for the award of "Worst-named Technology 2004".
reason: Because most pro cards have two of them. So they are called dual DVI. Dual DVI ports, a DVI Dual Port, Dual DVI Dual ports?
Other worst-named technologies:
- Hi-Speed USB (of which i am not sure to this date whether it's USB 1 or 2. What's wrong with 1 and 2?).
- Airport Extreme. Just for the sheer sillyness of it.
- Java 2. Because it means Java 1.2.x and up. Why, let's confuse everybody.
In other news, Intel Corporation announces that they still make processors.
The emperor is naked.
I thought the entire time that I was using a print out which glowed. It was incredible quality. So what if it costs like twice as much as the Apple screen, once you are willing to spend $3300 on a monitor, what $6300 is only a bonus. Also, since it's only 22.2" instead of 30", you don't have to worry about severe neck damage from sitting less than a 2 meters from the screen. This screen is perfectly well designed to be about 80cm from your nose.
So while Apple is bragging about making a revolutionary technology, I'd say it would have been revolutionary if the DPI was better than 202. Increasing the size doesn't mean anything. BTW, this monitor also uses the dual DVI connections. So Apple is not even close to being the first.
No, in point of fact, ml_ipod does not support real smart playlists.
A smart playlist, with regards to the iPod, is a playlist that has the definition for that playlist embedded in the iPod's database itself. For 1st and 2nd generation iPods, this is basically unnecessary, and the iPod ignores them. For 3rd generation and up iPods, however, the iPod rebuilds the playlist, in real time, based on the rules for that playlist.
So if you have a smart playlist that has a rule of "last played is not in the last 2 weeks", and then go play a song in that playlist, then when you leave and come back to that playlist later, it will have changed *without* syncing it to a computer.
I have examined the ml_ipod code, and it does not support smart playlists. It can create normal playlists using a rules based scheme, but this is not the same thing.
And On-The-Go Playlist support is easy. We have code to read and use this information off the iPod. However, foobar 2000 is a bit of a different kind of player, and so at the moment it doesn't really make sense to read the OTGPlaylist off the thing and into foobar. Thoughts are being developed along those lines, and the smart playlist interface being built may be actually a playlist manager type of thing, which would likely support such a functionality.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I take that back. They appear to have added some actual smart playlist support in the last couple of weeks. My apologies.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
No, sorry, I was mistaken. What ml_ipod is doing is saving it's smart playlist rules into a separate file on the iPod, which the iPod itself does not use. Then it builds normal playlists based on this file. This is not a true smart playlist in the iPod sense.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
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Let's be fair here: The Palm search technology is barely a shadow of the earlier Newton search technology. Some of the key differences: Newton searching was nearly instantaneous (two or three seconds to bring up all the search results), in contrast to the slower searching in the Palm; Newton brought all of the search results up in one big overview, instead of showing search results a page at a time like Palm does; and most importantly, Newton let you go back to the search results overview after clicking on one of the found items. I can't tell you how many times I have searched for something on the Palm, tapped the item on the third page, realized that it was not the item I was looking for...and then had to go back and perform the entire search all over again, get back to the third page again, and repeat ad nauseum. It is such a colossal waste of time, and it makes searching a chore, instead of an integrated and useful part of the system. The Newton may have had its flaws, but data structures and searching were not among them.
- the first one from IBM was the T220, which required 4 separate DVI inputs and only worked with slow 2D cards, i.e. the Matrox G200MMS provided with it. Initial price $20.000.- then lowered to $16.000.- (it was indeed very slow....)
- IBM renamed it to T221 and improved it to handle 1- and 2-DVI inputs, thereby enabling 3D-accelerated cards to handle it: original FireGL cards finally could drive this at about 25Hz refresh rate
- support came for other dual-DVI cards, such as the Quadro 4, and more refresh rates available: 20Hz,24Hz and 25Hz using both DVI ports, and 13Hz using only one
- as of last year at Siggraph, IBM did not support Apple systems for these displays, but ViewSonic did, with their own version of the display (IBM's hardware repackaged, I presume) named VP2290b however, only a Radeon 8500 single DVI out was supported, hence the 13Hz refresh rate being the only one available...
And to be precise, the mentioned refresh rates are for data refresh, since the LCD keeps its refresh rate constant. Having opened one of the T221s to try and reduce its bezel (yup, the plan was to build a 2x2 tiled 36M pixel display), it was clear that this was not just a "slightly bigger" LCD panel inside...More than for X-rays, it's been useful so far for astronomy applications, large dataset visualizations, etc. Being stuck at 13Hz on OS X, I have not put it as my main desktop display in the end.
Finally, although not as bad as on XP, there are still too many hardwired fixed-sized widgets in Mac OS X's interface to make a 200dpi display really usable. I'd go for a 30" 100dpi instead, at least for now, for general desktop use (XCode sure could do with some more real estate...)
According to Orlowski:
However even Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field began to wobble when he described how the Safari Browser "has always been at the cutting edge." (Only if you've been stuck in a time capsule since 1995, and are still impressed with Netscape 2.0, we reckon). Safari will get Arse-Feed support (both RSS and Atom) in the next version, which the audience met with a stunned silence.
Umm... Desk Accessories have been around forever. Here's some history from the guy who DID invent them. The term 'widget' has been around for a very long time as well as is the function of scripting. Konfabulator put some of these things together well, but they were building on old ideas they didn't develop. Methinks the Konfabulator dude thinks a little more highly of himself than he should...
Still, it might have been nice for Apple to approach the Konfabulator dude about it so as to not get folks riled up about it.
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
I have to disagree. As far as I am concerned, the Windows based GE Entegra and Exeleris are heaps of steaming dung. Constant crashes, memory leaks leading to glacial slowdowns, and a clumsy user interface. I reboot Entegra at least once a day. Whoever thought Visual BASIC was robust enough for a nuclear workstation is a dipshit.
The ADAC workstations on Solaris, on the other hand, never hiccup. We run them for months between reboots.
--ccm
Too much Law; not enough Order.
Last I knew, aluminum was not magnetic. So how does the new magnetic mount for the iSight work with the new displays?
Sorry, but a clever poster and a Konfabulator do not a new OS make.
I'll gladly wait until 2005. I'll gladly wait longer, if this is the best they can come up with. They should concentrate more on the OS and less at getting back at former employees.
SEVERAL PCs for under $600. 2GHz or faster - certainly enough for email/IM and word processing. Monitors are effectively free these days (I can get 17" monitors for nothing or Or he can get a G4/G5 tower for a $1300 or more.
or an ibook for > $1000.
Or the old iMac/new eMac. A console/all in one, you're stuck with it for $800.
Mr Steve, sir? Can we have a basic tower box with enough ram to not swap OSX all the time for UNDER $800? Please?
And if your folks are working on the OS, I understand that the graphics are all tricked out, but how come my 40MHz/64MB color NextStation is still pretty quick compared with my 400MHz/512MB G3 laptop running OS X? (esp when said laptop flies running BSD).
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My post was half Interesting and half Troll. 50% of the moderators have good taste and rated my post Interesting, 50% of the others did not get the humor or point of the post, like you.
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This isn't just a matter of paying Southeast Asians slave wages to crank the LCD mill and cut out 30 inch pieces. It's expensive as hell to make these things. And for some crazy motive I can't quite put my finger on, Apple doesn't want to lose billions of dollars by selling these at a massive loss in high volume. So much for $800. *Sigh*
But amazingly enough, the people who have an urgent need for a hi-res 30 inch LCD display usually aren't going to be going hungry over the expense. It's funny how these things work out like that.