But in these days everyone thinks SQL is a MS thing. Thats all. In fact same people will think video streaming is a ms invention when Realnetworks is dead (somehow) in 2 years. Thats the point.
-- Microsoft just called their product Microsoft SQL Server. Doesn't sound presumptious to me. If they had called Windows Microsoft Operating System instead would you be pissed? --
I am not getting pissed. Its like the best/biggest nuclear power company claims or lets say, via PR , shows like they invented e=mc2 . Thats all.
If SQL stuff isn't somehow manipulated by ms PR (figure, not MS, their PR) to show as theirs, why sysadmins installing mySQL gets word from their bosses like "lets use the original" in first minor problem?
echelon, promis creates huge amounts of data if we exclude fingerprint, contacts and in your way of thinking, CC data, phone data, transportation data too...
Add internet and mail/usenet too, you will see amazing amount of data collected and all have to be relative.
I understand your point too but remember its working everywhere also could be done. Just USA is kinda more open and have to do the stuff you mention by law. Its the difference, nothing else.
Dear irc.xchat.org morons, what will you do to find and moderate my posts with -1 stuff if I send in another name?
Its a real funny claim to tell Yahoo doesn't know about security since they have like 300 milllion users. I repeat it. Moderate this down for fun too...
I believe slashdot did everything to prevent abuse but none of coders believed such childish morons would be here.
Got a safe, good partition manager? Spare a 1 gig partition to install Windows 2000 and run it without a firewall which you would not be able to install...
I am in Turkey, not having such "cool" broadband, just a 192 kbps cable connection and I had to fresh install windows 2000 once. IT TOOK ME 2 MINUTES for win32.blaster to install into that machine and gave me HELL until I downloaded Blaster fixing thing from Norton. I sure remember that shit since (so called spyware) bigfix client alerted me via scanning registry. Believe or not, I couldn't imagine such a problem like that before it alerted me of Blaster. I speak about 2 hours of hell.
Mails? Fsck them... I never used OE etc for mail as a one. While I believe OE is bitched about in wrong way. You can bitch about it in breaking standards etc but not security. I saw myself that it comes with showing mail in "restricted zone" setting by default...
I am talking about an OS here, which comes with port 135 open to ENTIRE PLANET. They have seen lots of reports there with it, at Win 2000 times. They did what? Added a firewall which conspires UDP rival apps like Quicktime, Realplayer which is OFF by default... To change those damn 2 lines to close 135 was real big thing!
I tell you these as a previous P4 PC owner, the day I figured I am quite an hostage to Microsoft and with my using style, Linux/Fbsd will not help me, I bought a G5 Mac.
Not using firewall (it has built in) yet, I don't think I need to use. no services run, no daemons run, all ports CLOSED, not stealth.
About MS? Oh its a spoiled company which is living fun of dominance. No new world order, no illumunati, no satanic BillG. Just being spoiled would make those happen.
I run OSX 10.2.8, which came with my Mac G5 and not planning to update any soon. Even I think of waiting a 64bit OS from Mac. I look for stability- NOT new stuff, already seen enough on my pc times.
That bug, security thing is fixed here, Safari "brown orifice" like cookie thingy is fixed too...
IMHO, if you aren't trolling, you misunderstood versioning scheme. Lets speak in windows/linux language.
OSX 10.2.x=Windows 2000/Linux Kernel 2.2.x which exactly same, no new UI, features but lots of bugs fixed in service packs. Truely stable.
OSX 10.3.x= Windows XP/Linux Kernel 2.4.x. Already some problems worked out, kernel changed, some freaky things happens with software,hardware you own already and happy while you used "2000", also you have to update lots of software/drivers. Figure XP is NT 5.1? It also gives a clue that its a near-unstable release. 10.3 is odd too.
Security problems are different. They *must* be fixed in all versions of OS and so far Apple does it.
Last word about the topic itself... PC mag bitched about Apple, I don't think why it becomes such big deal. They are PC mag, they will bitch of course such like Mac Mags bitches about PCs... I mean 2+2=4. I don't think guys at Pixar or a major newspaper has time to care/reply to such a troll article...
I am on G5 and never seen a kernel panic. Even I am a newbie converted from PC. I mean I installed lots of crap etc in first days (like download/install everything you see), I had excessive fragmentation but *never* seen a system crash.
If you think in rational way, Panther is said to be Fbsd 5.0, real new kernel comes with it (think like, updating to 2.4 from 2.2), but as a user coming from Atari 800xl daysI don't think it will fix anything...
IMHO your problem is either a software, other than OS problem or the place you use your mac.
I figured lots of drivers, even software install kernel "modules". e.g. if you install Norton (imho, don't) system alerts that it can breach your security. I checked whats happening, its the kernel modules it installs. So if my mac crashed, it would be norton causing it.
Place you use your mac is importmant too. It can have lots of static electricity, major reason RAM errors happen and as RAM error happens, unfortunately it kills kernel. Static electricity can happen because of bad earthing too. You are sure your earthing is OK?
If nothing above is problem and Apple changed your RAMs, check the stuff you connect to your mac. e.g. I use Logitech iFeel mouse which left from PC now. It has never been tested with mac, If my Mac crashed after plugging it in I'd figure its the Mouse...
I mean millions of people running G4 are happy with 10.2.x , why it should crash on you? And why you should buy a new OS to prevent it? New features, kernel... All fine. But to fix crash?
Same here for "Genius". I see its damn well supported (I found sane month ago), install... Scan command... Didn't work. I tried the test sane recommends from command line, no hope either. Scanner is detected well, www site and usenet posts verified it works but on mac it doesn't do what it has to do. We are missing something I assume...
Yep they aren't, also they live with us happily for 1000 years, no CIA agent will change it.
tip is given, is it true? on is just creating reason to make Kurdistan?
Sad, real sad.
You actually believe those attacks were run by Saddam? Let me say no.
Also, if you call me Saddam loyalist, no... Poor turkish truck drivers die one by one in Iraq, I feel sorry for them.
I am turk and I say, attacks are done by Al Queda network, not Saddam.
Saddam the CIA agent done all of this to world has been captured.
Be happy to mod me -10 levels.
I respect you terribly, ok you know all.
But in these days everyone thinks SQL is a MS thing. Thats all. In fact same people will think video streaming is a ms invention when Realnetworks is dead (somehow) in 2 years. Thats the point.
I am speaking about that.
--
Microsoft just called their product Microsoft SQL Server. Doesn't sound presumptious to me. If they had called Windows Microsoft Operating System instead would you be pissed?
--
I am not getting pissed. Its like the best/biggest nuclear power company claims or lets say, via PR , shows like they invented e=mc2 . Thats all.
If SQL stuff isn't somehow manipulated by ms PR (figure, not MS, their PR) to show as theirs, why sysadmins installing mySQL gets word from their bosses like "lets use the original" in first minor problem?
I also wonder, what the heck is IMS? Google (thanks) gives me results, not the explanation.
echelon, promis creates huge amounts of data if we exclude fingerprint, contacts and in your way of thinking, CC data, phone data, transportation data too...
Add internet and mail/usenet too, you will see amazing amount of data collected and all have to be relative.
I understand your point too but remember its working everywhere also could be done. Just USA is kinda more open and have to do the stuff you mention by law. Its the difference, nothing else.
What about visa/mastercard/american express?
IMHO some of them didn't want to be in that list.
What I know is, SQL is a method, not invented by MS, actually IBM and Compaq in business first adepting it.
MS did amazing PR job to show it like their invention, which is totally wrong.
SQL thing first got attention by Oracle after being ignored by all others and you see what they have become after caring about it.
If I don't remember wrong, SQL, relative databases, relative queries has earthed at 1978 or some later.
So, its unclassified dbase "competition" just like top 500 supercomputers are the unclassified?
IMHO with dozens of years, FBI and NSA would be top in petabyte levels.
Dear irc.xchat.org morons, what will you do to find and moderate my posts with -1 stuff if I send in another name?
Its a real funny claim to tell Yahoo doesn't know about security since they have like 300 milllion users. I repeat it. Moderate this down for fun too...
I believe slashdot did everything to prevent abuse but none of coders believed such childish morons would be here.
Got a safe, good partition manager? Spare a 1 gig partition to install Windows 2000 and run it without a firewall which you would not be able to install...
I am in Turkey, not having such "cool" broadband, just a 192 kbps cable connection and I had to fresh install windows 2000 once. IT TOOK ME 2 MINUTES for win32.blaster to install into that machine and gave me HELL until I downloaded Blaster fixing thing from Norton. I sure remember that shit since (so called spyware) bigfix client alerted me via scanning registry. Believe or not, I couldn't imagine such a problem like that before it alerted me of Blaster. I speak about 2 hours of hell.
Mails? Fsck them... I never used OE etc for mail as a one. While I believe OE is bitched about in wrong way. You can bitch about it in breaking standards etc but not security. I saw myself that it comes with showing mail in "restricted zone" setting by default...
I am talking about an OS here, which comes with port 135 open to ENTIRE PLANET. They have seen lots of reports there with it, at Win 2000 times. They did what? Added a firewall which conspires UDP rival apps like Quicktime, Realplayer which is OFF by default... To change those damn 2 lines to close 135 was real big thing!
I tell you these as a previous P4 PC owner, the day I figured I am quite an hostage to Microsoft and with my using style, Linux/Fbsd will not help me, I bought a G5 Mac.
Not using firewall (it has built in) yet, I don't think I need to use. no services run, no daemons run, all ports CLOSED, not stealth.
About MS? Oh its a spoiled company which is living fun of dominance. No new world order, no illumunati, no satanic BillG. Just being spoiled would make those happen.
Ac and the mods moderated him.
I run OSX 10.2.8, which came with my Mac G5 and not planning to update any soon. Even I think of waiting a 64bit OS from Mac. I look for stability- NOT new stuff, already seen enough on my pc times.
That bug, security thing is fixed here, Safari "brown orifice" like cookie thingy is fixed too...
IMHO, if you aren't trolling, you misunderstood versioning scheme. Lets speak in windows/linux language.
OSX 10.2.x=Windows 2000/Linux Kernel 2.2.x which exactly same, no new UI, features but lots of bugs fixed in service packs. Truely stable.
OSX 10.3.x= Windows XP/Linux Kernel 2.4.x. Already some problems worked out, kernel changed, some freaky things happens with software,hardware you own already and happy while you used "2000", also you have to update lots of software/drivers. Figure XP is NT 5.1? It also gives a clue that its a near-unstable release. 10.3 is odd too.
Security problems are different. They *must* be fixed in all versions of OS and so far Apple does it.
Last word about the topic itself... PC mag bitched about Apple, I don't think why it becomes such big deal. They are PC mag, they will bitch of course such like Mac Mags bitches about PCs... I mean 2+2=4. I don't think guys at Pixar or a major newspaper has time to care/reply to such a troll article...
Let him talk, ignore, move on...
I am on G5 and never seen a kernel panic. Even I am a newbie converted from PC. I mean I installed lots of crap etc in first days (like download/install everything you see), I had excessive fragmentation but *never* seen a system crash.
If you think in rational way, Panther is said to be Fbsd 5.0, real new kernel comes with it (think like, updating to 2.4 from 2.2), but as a user coming from Atari 800xl daysI don't think it will fix anything...
IMHO your problem is either a software, other than OS problem or the place you use your mac.
I figured lots of drivers, even software install kernel "modules". e.g. if you install Norton (imho, don't) system alerts that it can breach your security. I checked whats happening, its the kernel modules it installs. So if my mac crashed, it would be norton causing it.
Place you use your mac is importmant too. It can have lots of static electricity, major reason RAM errors happen and as RAM error happens, unfortunately it kills kernel. Static electricity can happen because of bad earthing too. You are sure your earthing is OK?
If nothing above is problem and Apple changed your RAMs, check the stuff you connect to your mac. e.g. I use Logitech iFeel mouse which left from PC now. It has never been tested with mac, If my Mac crashed after plugging it in I'd figure its the Mouse...
I mean millions of people running G4 are happy with 10.2.x , why it should crash on you? And why you should buy a new OS to prevent it? New features, kernel... All fine. But to fix crash?
You don't need to imagine man... There, a video for you, levitating frog...
;) at least they live.
http://www.hfml.sci.kun.nl/froglev.html
Poor frogs used for those experiments too
Same here for "Genius". I see its damn well supported (I found sane month ago), install... Scan command... Didn't work.
I tried the test sane recommends from command line, no hope either.
Scanner is detected well, www site and usenet posts verified it works but on mac it doesn't do what it has to do.
We are missing something I assume...
So you claim a company with millions of users not knowing about cryptography...
Which school you got points?
IMHO Yahoo should ship its mail system as a commercial software.
In my logic, yahoo uses FreeBSD, so they have nothing to do with GPL.
Because hotmail coders will steal it? ;)
Millions of users in ALL languages mark spam as spam, thats how it works....
Its all baesian filter but with milllions of users...
Yes it works damn great but I still report turkish spam (I am turkish) to spamcop.
iWon isn't a spyware infested company? I sure remember.
"It would live even if the next coders were cockroaches..."
If that happens, expect to see many major bugs in your software.
Boot from OSX DVD, select "Apple Hardware Test" and run it...
;-)
You'll be able to hear fans at Max speed...
Oh the noise... Anyways, Apple will help kernel developers I guess...
Besides being funny, G5 is like a jet on such situation, be warned.
100.000 s or more, its a Nokia...