Er, CNN: The site www.cnn.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/6.1 AOL on Linux.
If that was a joke and I missed, sorry:)
CNN is owned by AOL which owns Netscape too. It has never,ever run any sort of MS operating system. Sometimes solaris, sometimes linux. I guess it depends which server farm we are directed to.
"Crap. The simplest and most appropriate technical defense is to switch to another browser. Even Windows users have a choice of browser."
and may I ask why Opera 7 beta 1 with a start-from-strach code doesn't make news on Slashdot?
interesting... REAL interesting...
Re:This is depressing...
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I don't believe a single word of you. Your URL, which is some sort of affilate ID makes me think different stuff than the thing you said.
What is "your site", if its "your site", you are CEO of Reozone.com? If thats true, do you affilate with them?
Let me tell the real story. You had some sort of an innocent mailing list, than you sent that reozone.com URL with your affilate link to them.
Oh blocking Yahoo.com? gmx.de blocks them, Novell Myrealbox blocks their mailing list service because of non-serious abuse policy (even they are a potential huge customer). Also, when a yahoo mail user spams you, I have a record like, 2 hours later his account has been deleted.
SO EVERYONE CLICKS ON YOUR REFERER ID'ED URL ON SLASHDOT GIVES YOU MONEY?
We, here in Istanbul/Turkey have an online grocery for 4 years!
Its Koc holdings "migros" grocery (joint venture with swiss migros) and works well, they even deliver stuff 2-3 hours later, WITHOUT any fee.
http://online.migros.com.tr/index_sanal.html (in turkish)
Also they use those cool GSM credit card machines so you don't have to give your CC over the net.
I don't understand the big deal. I mean, if it was a VRML or VR shop you bought stuff by actually walking around on browser (yes a UK company exist), it would be big news, but whats the deal with this one?
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Erm, your User number is 205.688 . I understand what you mean, but slashdot isn't a small community anymore.
Opera 7 beta shipped.... Unlike every single +0.001 release of Phoneix, it doesn't make news on Slashdot.
Gee they coded it from the start and surprisingly, its faster,smaller, unlike netscape 6-7 teached us... http://www.opera.com
Mozilla fanatic moderators will burn points now, so I hate doing it but sending with score +1 bonus. At least, some of Slashdot readers would be AWARE...
Korean ISP's aren't that lame. I don't know about chinese but, koreans knows some stuff, they run on Apache web servers, FreeBSD with millions of customers. Nobody can tell me that they are so uneducated and they don't know how to block damn port 25.
People don't be naive, those ISPs are sure aware of the problem but they don't do anything about it. There are companies like Dreamwiz.com (no, they don't sell porn) which has been reported THOUSANDS of times. If it was an american company they would lose their domain name even! Conclusion: They make money over it too.
About the "immörality", I want a free ticket to Korea and punch that god damn ISP owner/boss/ceo/techical coordinator whatever from the face. Does it make me immoral or sort of a racist?
at end, I agree to you. I lived this thing, you won't understand it until you get thousands of unreadable mails to your yahoo account in use for 5 years and can do nothing about it. I wonder if it effects Yahoo and broadband kingdom Korea relationship??
You don't need to block HTML mail. After I figured, Yahoo will do _nothing_ about enormious spam from hananet.net and kornet.net , I did a filter like (can't give all, too long) If From contains "hanmail.net" (case sensitive) then deliver to Trash If From contains ".co.kr" then deliver to Trash
(here comes the trick)
If Body contains "charset=KS_C_5601-1987" then deliver to Trash If Body contains "charset="ISO-2022-KR"" then deliver to Trash
(most funny is)
If Subject contains "!!!!" then deliver to Trash
Yes, guess what? that 4 exclamation mark saves me from many spams! not a joke, they love 4 exclamation marks.
Let me tell you the amazing part, its a webmail filter, I can't do more, to block IP subnets, I need to root Yahoo:)) There are... 33 UNREAD mails on my Trashcan and I emptied it just a day ago!
I feedbacked to Yahoo and asked if they get any financial etc goods from those well known 2 damn companies... No reply. I kinda know them now. They are 2 huge ISP's, they are knowing the problem but they don't do anything about it.
If we lived in a good,ethical world, Yahoo pros knowing this thing would mail to them and those a$$holes wouldn't dare to ignore Yahoo giant as they do to us, end users. Like. "Close your port 25 for indivuals _now_ or we will block all the mails sent to our customers/users effective 1 week from now on". If I paid $25 for my mailbox, I'd still get that crap, can you believe?
Go to http://www.spamcop.net and check "top spammers", hanmail and kornet, always there!..
"But the problem (for me) with UD is the lack of *nix support. I once used them about a year ago when I used Windows 2k as my server... and my servers usually just idle not doing anything (except host a small mail server) so I ran UD."
UD has *nix clients but _not_ cancer research (now we,users are at phase 2, ligandfit) module for *nix. For a simple reason...
Its (the code, which renders proteins etc) coded in a special variant of Fortran which'es compiler doesn't exist on *nix.
Tapping a GSM? um, its possible, with $100k equipment and a cool supercomputer like Cray or some Sun high end.but I think its easy to tap a ISP,e.g. bribing them.
GSM has encryription, a REAL high level of encyription.
IE 1 wasn't free. It came with the Microsoft Plus! Windows 95 package, confusing newbies that it is the only way to get on Internet.
IE 2 shipped as free but you can't see many UI differences, so they are actually confused.
Oh btw, both sucked as browsers but they were clean! nothing was into system directory, didn't take over your OS, wasn't an evil attempt to kill Netscape, so you didn't hate them.
"It's not as bad as you make out. The new RealOne player is not as bad as MS media player. First of all, you CAN turn off all those things you mentioned (did you even look for the checkboxes in the options menu?) Second, unlike media player realOne defaults to NOT uniquely identifying your player to servers."
You don't even need to reply to that guy.
He has learned the magic formula
1) Bitch about Real/Quicktime/Sorenson , any company tries to make money over their products, invent some codecs etc.
2) (this is importmant) NEVER say you are on XP/2K/NT etc with IE and you are happy with ms windows media (also you couldn't crack realone player, since uses online registration check)
3) Propose no alternative
4) Get score 5 interesting/insightful.
As a media professional, I am sick of those realplayer/quicktime stories and the comments attached to them, is there a way to filter them out?
ps: btw this post is a guaranteed formula to get -1 too;-)
Well, it serves nothing to geeks but there are 850.000 ( http://www.msnbc.com/news/827514.asp ) subscribers of them (imho,they will pass million with adult content) for watching sports,videos etc.
While its NOT coming with Windows pre-installed, it has MORE installations than windows media player.
oh btw, if your "wishful thinking" comes to be true, Real crashes. The market will have another cool monopoly, WINDOWS MEDIA my friend. IE isn't enough for you? You trust to WINE, crossover? It would take less than 100 lines to make it *need* directX to work.
I'd be comfortable on XP, what will opensource OS users do?
So, they will Open the source of that Realvideo 9 (which is ages ahead of wmedia imho), ms will grab the source than release Windows Media 10 with all those features?
I am a windows media 9 beta user too... I, in fact had to install it since my player was seriously broken. It still misses features, the fun is, MS can't still use flash etc in streams (makes some funny scripting in browser for that functionality), it can't render HTML in a presentation while Real uses IE dll's to make that stuff happen.
It sounds like Sorenson matter to me... What will they do than? work at some pizza place?:)
" These players are slow, intrusive, proprietary, and often loaded with spyware. Bring on the OSS alternative!"
That will make you get +5 on Slashdot but, I as a experienced user (win32 here), started to "ignore" all stuff mentions "spyware"... That term has started to get seriously abused.
Both Real and Wmedia (on latest versions) openly explain what is GUID (global identifier thing) and also its not sent to them in anyways, its sent to the servers where you watch/listen.
anyways, as a believer in open source, I really hope one day an open source codec/application can crash those propetioary formats but.. Blaming them to be "spyware" doesn't help anything.
So, we shouldn't use browsers too, they give much more info to the servers we browse.
I am really against that spyware/scamware crap but I don't believe Real is spyware in my terms. Yeap, mods, shoot me for that:)
Oh about wmedia... IMHO they don't "need" to be spyware, OS makes the job well already;-)
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and for high speed cooling (warm beer etc) Slayer would work fine. More speed? cp /dev/urandom /dev/dsp :) (newbies, don'T do it)
Wow cool.
It was done... As a BBC sci-tech April 1 joke. ;-) A microwave runs inverse.
I'd give URL but, their "supero genious" search engine can't find a page I have sure read.
One more note, their phones were locked because of that joke, people took it serious.
Er, CNN:
:)
:)
The site www.cnn.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/6.1 AOL on Linux.
If that was a joke and I missed, sorry
CNN is owned by AOL which owns Netscape too. It has never,ever run any sort of MS operating system. Sometimes solaris, sometimes linux. I guess it depends which server farm we are directed to.
IMHO MS OS/IIS can't handle that traffic
Hmm , I am not impressed at all. Sorry.
"Crap. The simplest and most appropriate technical defense is to switch to another browser. Even Windows users have a choice of browser."
and may I ask why Opera 7 beta 1 with a start-from-strach code doesn't make news on Slashdot?
interesting... REAL interesting...
I don't believe a single word of you. Your URL, which is some sort of affilate ID makes me think different stuff than the thing you said.
What is "your site", if its "your site", you are CEO of Reozone.com? If thats true, do you affilate with them?
Let me tell the real story. You had some sort of an innocent mailing list, than you sent that reozone.com URL with your affilate link to them.
Oh blocking Yahoo.com? gmx.de blocks them, Novell Myrealbox blocks their mailing list service because of non-serious abuse policy (even they are a potential huge customer). Also, when a yahoo mail user spams you, I have a record like, 2 hours later his account has been deleted.
SO EVERYONE CLICKS ON YOUR REFERER ID'ED URL ON SLASHDOT GIVES YOU MONEY?
bleh
That "innocent party" should find a good provider with STRICT anti-spam policies than.
If you do business with people who has no respect to others, you deserve it. Kind of.
whatever, slashdot doesn't have 200.000 hits a day, much more, they will never admit it though.
We, here in Istanbul/Turkey have an online grocery for 4 years!
Its Koc holdings "migros" grocery (joint venture with swiss migros) and works well, they even deliver stuff 2-3 hours later, WITHOUT any fee.
http://online.migros.com.tr/index_sanal.html (in turkish)
Also they use those cool GSM credit card machines so you don't have to give your CC over the net.
I don't understand the big deal. I mean, if it was a VRML or VR shop you bought stuff by actually walking around on browser (yes a UK company exist), it would be big news, but whats the deal with this one?
Erm, your User number is 205.688 . I understand what you mean, but slashdot isn't a small community anymore.
Opera 7 beta shipped.... Unlike every single +0.001 release of Phoneix, it doesn't make news on Slashdot.
:)
Gee they coded it from the start and surprisingly, its faster,smaller, unlike netscape 6-7 teached us... http://www.opera.com
Mozilla fanatic moderators will burn points now, so I hate doing it but sending with score +1 bonus. At least, some of Slashdot readers would be AWARE...
Playing games Slashdot?
Korean ISP's aren't that lame. I don't know about chinese but, koreans knows some stuff, they run on Apache web servers, FreeBSD with millions of customers. Nobody can tell me that they are so uneducated and they don't know how to block damn port 25.
People don't be naive, those ISPs are sure aware of the problem but they don't do anything about it. There are companies like Dreamwiz.com (no, they don't sell porn) which has been reported THOUSANDS of times. If it was an american company they would lose their domain name even! Conclusion: They make money over it too.
About the "immörality", I want a free ticket to Korea and punch that god damn ISP owner/boss/ceo/techical coordinator whatever from the face. Does it make me immoral or sort of a racist?
at end, I agree to you. I lived this thing, you won't understand it until you get thousands of unreadable mails to your yahoo account in use for 5 years and can do nothing about it. I wonder if it effects Yahoo and broadband kingdom Korea relationship??
You don't need to block HTML mail. After I figured, Yahoo will do _nothing_ about enormious spam from hananet.net and kornet.net , I did a filter like (can't give all, too long)
:)) There are... 33 UNREAD mails on my Trashcan and I emptied it just a day ago!
If From contains "hanmail.net" (case sensitive)
then deliver to Trash
If From contains ".co.kr"
then deliver to Trash
(here comes the trick)
If Body contains "charset=KS_C_5601-1987"
then deliver to Trash
If Body contains "charset="ISO-2022-KR""
then deliver to Trash
(most funny is)
If Subject contains "!!!!"
then deliver to Trash
Yes, guess what? that 4 exclamation mark saves me from many spams! not a joke, they love 4 exclamation marks.
Let me tell you the amazing part, its a webmail filter, I can't do more, to block IP subnets, I need to root Yahoo
I feedbacked to Yahoo and asked if they get any financial etc goods from those well known 2 damn companies... No reply. I kinda know them now. They are 2 huge ISP's, they are knowing the problem but they don't do anything about it.
If we lived in a good,ethical world, Yahoo pros knowing this thing would mail to them and those a$$holes wouldn't dare to ignore Yahoo giant as they do to us, end users. Like. "Close your port 25 for indivuals _now_ or we will block all the mails sent to our customers/users effective 1 week from now on". If I paid $25 for my mailbox, I'd still get that crap, can you believe?
Go to http://www.spamcop.net and check "top spammers", hanmail and kornet, always there!..
"But the problem (for me) with UD is the lack of *nix support. I once used them about a year ago when I used Windows 2k as my server... and my servers usually just idle not doing anything (except host a small mail server) so I ran UD."
UD has *nix clients but _not_ cancer research (now we,users are at phase 2, ligandfit) module for *nix. For a simple reason...
Its (the code, which renders proteins etc) coded in a special variant of Fortran which'es compiler doesn't exist on *nix.
Now that is a real rip-off... amazing I say, amazing price. You can have a full feature phone with that,with gprs and bluetooth etc. amazing price.
e.g. the Nokia 7650 with built in camera and mms, of course gprs is=$250!
Tapping a GSM? um, its possible, with $100k equipment and a cool supercomputer like Cray or some Sun high end.but I think its easy to tap a ISP,e.g. bribing them.
GSM has encryription, a REAL high level of encyription.
"Luckily mobile phone manufactures makes phones to the end users instead of service providers."
Are you sure? I have a C35 (siemens) which the first selection on menu is "Internet", in fact WAP. Do you think its because of a chance?
You pay for bytes on GPRS, not being online. Just like some of those corparate lines.
IE 1 wasn't free. It came with the Microsoft Plus! Windows 95 package, confusing newbies that it is the only way to get on Internet.
IE 2 shipped as free but you can't see many UI differences, so they are actually confused.
Oh btw, both sucked as browsers but they were clean! nothing was into system directory, didn't take over your OS, wasn't an evil attempt to kill Netscape, so you didn't hate them.
FYI, Opera 6.1 is built on QT 3 platform.
I guess its why it is a real improvement. Most of cut/paste stuff problems (I heard, win32 users here) are gone.
"It's not as bad as you make out.
;-)
The new RealOne player is not as bad as MS media player. First of all, you CAN turn off all those things you mentioned (did you even look for the checkboxes in the options menu?) Second, unlike media player realOne defaults to NOT uniquely identifying your player to servers."
You don't even need to reply to that guy.
He has learned the magic formula
1) Bitch about Real/Quicktime/Sorenson , any company tries to make money over their products, invent some codecs etc.
2) (this is importmant) NEVER say you are on XP/2K/NT etc with IE and you are happy with ms windows media (also you couldn't crack realone player, since uses online registration check)
3) Propose no alternative
4) Get score 5 interesting/insightful.
As a media professional, I am sick of those realplayer/quicktime stories and the comments attached to them, is there a way to filter them out?
ps: btw this post is a guaranteed formula to get -1 too
Which company is going chapter 11? Real?
Well, it serves nothing to geeks but there are 850.000 ( http://www.msnbc.com/news/827514.asp ) subscribers of them (imho,they will pass million with adult content) for watching sports,videos etc.
While its NOT coming with Windows pre-installed, it has MORE installations than windows media player.
oh btw, if your "wishful thinking" comes to be true, Real crashes. The market will have another cool monopoly, WINDOWS MEDIA my friend. IE isn't enough for you? You trust to WINE, crossover? It would take less than 100 lines to make it *need* directX to work.
I'd be comfortable on XP, what will opensource OS users do?
So, they will Open the source of that Realvideo 9 (which is ages ahead of wmedia imho), ms will grab the source than release Windows Media 10 with all those features?
:)
I am a windows media 9 beta user too... I, in fact had to install it since my player was seriously broken. It still misses features, the fun is, MS can't still use flash etc in streams (makes some funny scripting in browser for that functionality), it can't render HTML in a presentation while Real uses IE dll's to make that stuff happen.
It sounds like Sorenson matter to me... What will they do than? work at some pizza place?
" These players are slow, intrusive, proprietary, and often loaded with spyware. Bring on the OSS alternative!"
:)
;-)
That will make you get +5 on Slashdot but, I as a experienced user (win32 here), started to "ignore" all stuff mentions "spyware"... That term has started to get seriously abused.
Both Real and Wmedia (on latest versions) openly explain what is GUID (global identifier thing) and also its not sent to them in anyways, its sent to the servers where you watch/listen.
anyways, as a believer in open source, I really hope one day an open source codec/application can crash those propetioary formats but.. Blaming them to be "spyware" doesn't help anything.
So, we shouldn't use browsers too, they give much more info to the servers we browse.
I am really against that spyware/scamware crap but I don't believe Real is spyware in my terms. Yeap, mods, shoot me for that
Oh about wmedia... IMHO they don't "need" to be spyware, OS makes the job well already
Heh obviously yes... I didn't check it before saying "all are real"...