OS X is NeXT/BSD Lite/Carbon/FreeBSD with a new UI and collection of frameworks. That almost schizoid mix of things is being chosen instead of Windows by 70 year old ladies because it is easier to use!
One gotta be afraid of "new UI" things especially when they are released by some company almost same size as them. Funny thing is, Google can lose billions with no harm (just like MS silverlight) and say "oh well, it didn`t work" and continue their regular business. In fact they don`t even have to cancel it as it will be open source.
I wonder if I should grab the videos, repack it in a mp4 file and publish it to pirate bay as in torrent?
The only issue would be installing Silverlight and being another number in MS statistics. I don`t have tripwire on this partition too and I have no time to review.pkg.
I bet someone else who got experience in these things is already on it.
Funny is Tuva is really close to word Truva in Turkish which is basically the city of Troy. Installing some silverlight clone to be able to watch them really reminds "trojan".:)
I don`t care, I use UNIX 03 aka OS X. Only good thing coming from MS are fonts which they purchased exclusive rights and Apple licensed them for me so I paid for them. No shadowy agreements etc.
BTW, dear BillG: There is something called archive.org if you want to donate something to technical community. They offer standard MPEG and OGG files and Flash, which is current de-facto standard can stream them embedded if one is in hurry. Your attempt to kill Flash has failed, fire that team and target something else.
They say "do no evil" or something, we gotta trust them:)
These people are actually running Google coded kernel, on a device advertised as "Google powered". It must be a bit late to convince them about the privacy risks.
I am actually surprised that Google doesn`t go more evil considering how ignorant people have become about their privacy and rights. Well, Google powered netbook will be probably free to grab and you will probably get shocked at people asking for "invitation codes".
There is no access to device hardware? For example, my Nokia E65 with a 133 mhz processor doesn`t really "play" h264 video, the app calls some framework whatever and that framework tells some chip to decode h264. It is same deal both on Symbian and J2ME apps.
If it can`t do it, why did Google go with their "android" thing instead of J2ME which can be extended via JSR?
I bet Symbian and even high end J2ME client will follow soon and if people choose an officially shipped, supported application instead of 3rd party clones, Skype will be really hit big time.
It has been YEARS that Symbian S60 client of Skype, the one you can click and download to any S60 device was promised but never shipped. It comes with some phone in UK I heard. That is it. They also spread some real FUD about J2ME in the process when people were naive enough to ask them.
Skype and eBay suits running it really needs a lesson. How hard to admit that it was a really massive fault, they can`t run a VOIP company which has to support thousands of different configurations and put it to market or something? Not just that, they released iPhone version in matter of months and Windows Mobile version is there for ages. Something really goes on in those offices, something really interesting.
It won`t make too much difference if that idiot in charge of company site is too lazy to setup actual statistics system and rely on Google analytics which are free (!!!!) in cost of their customer`s privacy.
Well, it is not practical to name it GNU/Linux but when people forget the "GNU" part, they poison the decade+ old legendary Debian with MS patents and behave like nothing interesting happened.
Are you comfortable with public posting like that? It is not like you spread FUD or Spam of course but if you think about it, you don`t see or know who that "Apple guy" doing the approval is. What if he reads slashdot and say "Oh are you bitching? You will see what approval process is." and make you wait 5 weeks instead of 2?
I always admired the patience of developers, especially open source/freeware ones but app store really carries to some amazing degree.
Are you telling there is no heuristics, code analytics, power analysis going on while application gets to the app store?
Apple also analyses the application in Sony way. Does it compete or would dare to compete with their iTMS? Would it take away people from iPhone services? Did Developer bitch about Apple or harmed Apple somehow in the past? iPhone developer scene publicly is just 5-10 heroic guys telling their mind and the rest are anonymous cowards for a good reason. Of course, those 5-10 guys are so advanced and gifted developers with huge piles of money that if Apple makes the mistake of rejecting their application, it will be Apple`s loss since all apps will appear on every single platform except Apple in matter of months.
People really think Flash and J2ME is not included because Apple thinks about them. It really makes me ROTFL. No, they aren`t included because you can code APPS with them and they are -by nature- decentralized.
Can you watch progress or know who actually approves your app? I mean, what if some MS certified idiot who somehow got the job at Apple doesn`t approve your application for no reason rather than not understanding what the heck it is or misunderstand?
For example, is there an interface saying "APP-291 rejected, reason 10023" or you just upload it and pray?
Trust me, if I was a Developer, I would always keep a Nokia 5800 (touch based Symbian) release maintained just in case. I understand there is no reason to ship same thing for a keypad based or hybrid phone even if possible but Symbian S60 V5 shouldn`t be missed, especially for European user profile.
or J2ME or even Symbian. At least, there is free market I would say. There is no "app store" to say "duplicates functionality". It is USER who says "bleh, this sux" and presses C button on its icon to uninstall application. No harm done...
Apps like Profimail and Opera Mini proves that if you code a really good application, you stay on guys device and in case of Profimail, guy even pays for it. I picked these 2 because they are coded in J2ME instead of "native" Symbian C. You can`t believe how hard it is to succeed for a J2ME app on a smart phone let alone getting picked instead of a thing already coming with it in its ROM. Well, they succeed. Open market gives that chance.
Consider me old fashioned or some sort of militant person. I still keep staying away from iPhone since a device requires to be hacked to gather full functionality doesn`t make sense to me.
I keep my love-hate relationship with Nokia and Symbian instead while using some really good J2ME apps. Being an OS X user myself and knowing what can it actually do really bugs me more about iPhone. I was also heart broken when Apple decided to make some FUD about J2ME instead of simply saying "No, we don`t include it.". Taking down network etc was really too much. Even MS didn`t go that low when attacking Java because of their own reasons.
I also have problem with "user profile" of it but it is an ongoing issue since I purchased my G5 tower so, it is not something Apple can fix anyway;)
What caused Crysler those difficulties? Just think deeper, try to remember the exact time when the troubles have begun.
Nobody would buy those tiny Japanese cars wouldn't they? They wouldn't have the degree of support you could provide... Or, German cars could be avoided easily with couple of sublime Goodwin law breaking campaigns right?
If you came to me back in 1984 and told Atari would become that miserable story of today or C64, I would really ROTFL.
Is it the same moonlight which had to get a special feed for Obama inauguration since it didn't support Silverlight 2 that time? I submitted the original story to slashdot I remember and if it wasn't there, you weren't be able to watch it from official site since MS bribed site didn't even bother with your clone plugins existence at all!
BTW MS only hires Developers who were born and raised in Windows scene unless they would serve them as in another form like trojaning Debian with MS patents. I mean, in case some people thinks astroturfing would benefit for their future. It doesn't.
MS is incapable of developing windows media player for i386/OS X even while companies who trusted their DRM solution are banging their heads to wall seeing 30-40% of OS X hits which will never be able to purchase their goods.
They also can't release Silverlight 2/3 for PPC which really means Silverlight code and Framework is tied to i386 which alone is a real bad thing or can signal way worse thing like, Silverlight OS X is actually Silverlight Win32 acting like an OS X app. Just like their puppet EA games releases. (not actual conversions)
Silverlight is i386 Windows/OS X only with no kind of developer tool support for OS X. Don't even dare to mention Eclipse. Average designer thinks it is a cool named Virus, I am not joking.
Moonlight is just a half ass clone of Silverlight which has no function rather than make couple of ignorant people or basic MS astroturfers believe that MS would ever do anything which will work same way on anything other than Windows.
Mono on OS X? These people (Developers) have access to Cocoa, one of the World's most advanced UI libraries and Objective C. They can also use UNIX 03 certified underlying layer. Why would they monkey with Mono? It is not like MS saved their company from going chapter 11 with some undisclosed agreements and made it hire some rejected Developer to top position.
Last.fm client must be really alerting to MS since it is basically Flash and Trolltech (Nokia) Qt 4. Works in same quality on every popular platform and CPU of today, INCLUDING PowerPC and ARM.
If you think about it, they target multi platform things.
If you only use Google services, Last.fm, Youtube like flash video hosting sites, why would you need Windows for? Netbook vendors proved it until they probably had a call from MS reminding their usual business is owned by Microsoft pyramid scheme.
Their real panic is about web applications/services which works anywhere. It is absolutely related to panic since there is no point doing another jukebox service. Last.fm owns it. They were clever doing the thing open source, multi platform, documented and they now enjoy it. My Nokia E65 can stream last.fm from an 3rd party instant messenger. Can you imagine the degree of the compatibility? 3rd party instant messenger has SDK (Fring BTW), last.fm has sdk too. So, one can code a plugin for it using its SDK with last.fm SDK&API.
Someone really buries his head to sand in this already crazy scene which nothing which doesn't tie to some standard and multi platform succeeds.
If I told you that Slashdot is capable of making Opera 10 browser (and 9) hit 100% on a G5 2500 (IBM 970MP), intel latest generation core duo and most importantly this poor G4 Mini?
Opera core is coded in a way to actually run, render on 100 Mhz ARM CPU. Opera doesn't hate Slashdot (they even have shortcut) or Slashdot doesn't hate Opera. Even if they hated, there is no way you will be able to find all Opera issues and code specifically to break it. Slashdot is not Microsoft (that MSN scandal costed them) and they don't have coding resources.
I haven't seen Opera using 100% CPU to the point of displaying a spinning wheel on any site except slashdot. None. Flash could cause such thing but not a spinning wheel.
It is almost something that I am afraid MS will get the slashdot code, copy whatever makes Opera and Firefox go down to their knees and feed those browsers with that code on their sites. BTW IE 8 on 64bit Windows 7 is acting strange on Slashdot too.
All of these browsers display other sites fine, act normally. It is only Slashdot making them nuts. I also don't understand why they don't code with web standards while overhauling site. It would make people way more understanding like "they try to support standards, be patient".
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OS X is NeXT/BSD Lite/Carbon/FreeBSD with a new UI and collection of frameworks. That almost schizoid mix of things is being chosen instead of Windows by 70 year old ladies because it is easier to use!
One gotta be afraid of "new UI" things especially when they are released by some company almost same size as them. Funny thing is, Google can lose billions with no harm (just like MS silverlight) and say "oh well, it didn`t work" and continue their regular business. In fact they don`t even have to cancel it as it will be open source.
I wonder if I should grab the videos, repack it in a mp4 file and publish it to pirate bay as in torrent?
The only issue would be installing Silverlight and being another number in MS statistics. I don`t have tripwire on this partition too and I have no time to review .pkg.
I bet someone else who got experience in these things is already on it.
Guess the most easily reached UI element of XP Mode under Windows 7 which is basically hand crafted Virtual PC?
a button saying "ctrl-alt-delete" is right at its toolbar. Believe or not.
Funny is Tuva is really close to word Truva in Turkish which is basically the city of Troy. Installing some silverlight clone to be able to watch them really reminds "trojan". :)
I don`t care, I use UNIX 03 aka OS X. Only good thing coming from MS are fonts which they purchased exclusive rights and Apple licensed them for me so I paid for them. No shadowy agreements etc.
What about some great reading in HTML instead? It tells about where the real IT World was while MS was monkeying with some clone of CP/M
http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtFeynman.php
BTW, dear BillG: There is something called archive.org if you want to donate something to technical community. They offer standard MPEG and OGG files and Flash, which is current de-facto standard can stream them embedded if one is in hurry. Your attempt to kill Flash has failed, fire that team and target something else.
You don`t have to be RMS to reject Microsoft`s "me too" technologies cloned by their clowns.
They say "do no evil" or something, we gotta trust them :)
These people are actually running Google coded kernel, on a device advertised as "Google powered". It must be a bit late to convince them about the privacy risks.
I am actually surprised that Google doesn`t go more evil considering how ignorant people have become about their privacy and rights. Well, Google powered netbook will be probably free to grab and you will probably get shocked at people asking for "invitation codes".
There is no access to device hardware? For example, my Nokia E65 with a 133 mhz processor doesn`t really "play" h264 video, the app calls some framework whatever and that framework tells some chip to decode h264. It is same deal both on Symbian and J2ME apps.
If it can`t do it, why did Google go with their "android" thing instead of J2ME which can be extended via JSR?
I bet Symbian and even high end J2ME client will follow soon and if people choose an officially shipped, supported application instead of 3rd party clones, Skype will be really hit big time.
It has been YEARS that Symbian S60 client of Skype, the one you can click and download to any S60 device was promised but never shipped. It comes with some phone in UK I heard. That is it. They also spread some real FUD about J2ME in the process when people were naive enough to ask them.
Skype and eBay suits running it really needs a lesson. How hard to admit that it was a really massive fault, they can`t run a VOIP company which has to support thousands of different configurations and put it to market or something? Not just that, they released iPhone version in matter of months and Windows Mobile version is there for ages. Something really goes on in those offices, something really interesting.
It won`t make too much difference if that idiot in charge of company site is too lazy to setup actual statistics system and rely on Google analytics which are free (!!!!) in cost of their customer`s privacy.
Well, it is not practical to name it GNU/Linux but when people forget the "GNU" part, they poison the decade+ old legendary Debian with MS patents and behave like nothing interesting happened.
Are you comfortable with public posting like that? It is not like you spread FUD or Spam of course but if you think about it, you don`t see or know who that "Apple guy" doing the approval is. What if he reads slashdot and say "Oh are you bitching? You will see what approval process is." and make you wait 5 weeks instead of 2?
I always admired the patience of developers, especially open source/freeware ones but app store really carries to some amazing degree.
Are you telling there is no heuristics, code analytics, power analysis going on while application gets to the app store?
Apple also analyses the application in Sony way. Does it compete or would dare to compete with their iTMS? Would it take away people from iPhone services? Did Developer bitch about Apple or harmed Apple somehow in the past? iPhone developer scene publicly is just 5-10 heroic guys telling their mind and the rest are anonymous cowards for a good reason. Of course, those 5-10 guys are so advanced and gifted developers with huge piles of money that if Apple makes the mistake of rejecting their application, it will be Apple`s loss since all apps will appear on every single platform except Apple in matter of months.
People really think Flash and J2ME is not included because Apple thinks about them. It really makes me ROTFL. No, they aren`t included because you can code APPS with them and they are -by nature- decentralized.
Can you watch progress or know who actually approves your app? I mean, what if some MS certified idiot who somehow got the job at Apple doesn`t approve your application for no reason rather than not understanding what the heck it is or misunderstand?
For example, is there an interface saying "APP-291 rejected, reason 10023" or you just upload it and pray?
Trust me, if I was a Developer, I would always keep a Nokia 5800 (touch based Symbian) release maintained just in case. I understand there is no reason to ship same thing for a keypad based or hybrid phone even if possible but Symbian S60 V5 shouldn`t be missed, especially for European user profile.
or J2ME or even Symbian. At least, there is free market I would say. There is no "app store" to say "duplicates functionality". It is USER who says "bleh, this sux" and presses C button on its icon to uninstall application. No harm done...
Apps like Profimail and Opera Mini proves that if you code a really good application, you stay on guys device and in case of Profimail, guy even pays for it. I picked these 2 because they are coded in J2ME instead of "native" Symbian C. You can`t believe how hard it is to succeed for a J2ME app on a smart phone let alone getting picked instead of a thing already coming with it in its ROM. Well, they succeed. Open market gives that chance.
Consider me old fashioned or some sort of militant person. I still keep staying away from iPhone since a device requires to be hacked to gather full functionality doesn`t make sense to me.
I keep my love-hate relationship with Nokia and Symbian instead while using some really good J2ME apps. Being an OS X user myself and knowing what can it actually do really bugs me more about iPhone. I was also heart broken when Apple decided to make some FUD about J2ME instead of simply saying "No, we don`t include it.". Taking down network etc was really too much. Even MS didn`t go that low when attacking Java because of their own reasons.
I also have problem with "user profile" of it but it is an ongoing issue since I purchased my G5 tower so, it is not something Apple can fix anyway ;)
As you mention, last.fm is free in UK. The service I have never heard before is UK based too.
For a British person, last.fm really serves the purpose and MS buys something unknown to the planet except UK. That is what that guy you reply means.
What caused Crysler those difficulties? Just think deeper, try to remember the exact time when the troubles have begun.
Nobody would buy those tiny Japanese cars wouldn't they? They wouldn't have the degree of support you could provide... Or, German cars could be avoided easily with couple of sublime Goodwin law breaking campaigns right?
If you came to me back in 1984 and told Atari would become that miserable story of today or C64, I would really ROTFL.
Is it the same moonlight which had to get a special feed for Obama inauguration since it didn't support Silverlight 2 that time? I submitted the original story to slashdot I remember and if it wasn't there, you weren't be able to watch it from official site since MS bribed site didn't even bother with your clone plugins existence at all!
BTW MS only hires Developers who were born and raised in Windows scene unless they would serve them as in another form like trojaning Debian with MS patents. I mean, in case some people thinks astroturfing would benefit for their future. It doesn't.
MS is incapable of developing windows media player for i386/OS X even while companies who trusted their DRM solution are banging their heads to wall seeing 30-40% of OS X hits which will never be able to purchase their goods.
They also can't release Silverlight 2/3 for PPC which really means Silverlight code and Framework is tied to i386 which alone is a real bad thing or can signal way worse thing like, Silverlight OS X is actually Silverlight Win32 acting like an OS X app. Just like their puppet EA games releases. (not actual conversions)
Silverlight is i386 Windows/OS X only with no kind of developer tool support for OS X. Don't even dare to mention Eclipse. Average designer thinks it is a cool named Virus, I am not joking.
Moonlight is just a half ass clone of Silverlight which has no function rather than make couple of ignorant people or basic MS astroturfers believe that MS would ever do anything which will work same way on anything other than Windows.
Mono on OS X? These people (Developers) have access to Cocoa, one of the World's most advanced UI libraries and Objective C. They can also use UNIX 03 certified underlying layer. Why would they monkey with Mono? It is not like MS saved their company from going chapter 11 with some undisclosed agreements and made it hire some rejected Developer to top position.
Last.fm client must be really alerting to MS since it is basically Flash and Trolltech (Nokia) Qt 4. Works in same quality on every popular platform and CPU of today, INCLUDING PowerPC and ARM.
If you think about it, they target multi platform things.
If you only use Google services, Last.fm, Youtube like flash video hosting sites, why would you need Windows for? Netbook vendors proved it until they probably had a call from MS reminding their usual business is owned by Microsoft pyramid scheme.
Their real panic is about web applications/services which works anywhere. It is absolutely related to panic since there is no point doing another jukebox service. Last.fm owns it. They were clever doing the thing open source, multi platform, documented and they now enjoy it. My Nokia E65 can stream last.fm from an 3rd party instant messenger. Can you imagine the degree of the compatibility? 3rd party instant messenger has SDK (Fring BTW), last.fm has sdk too. So, one can code a plugin for it using its SDK with last.fm SDK&API.
Someone really buries his head to sand in this already crazy scene which nothing which doesn't tie to some standard and multi platform succeeds.
Besides Telnet joke, the best browser for Slashdot these days is elinks browser. I am not doing a lynx joke.
Slashdot renders beautifully, you can easily scroll discussions.
If you got some sort of *NIX, try elinks (not links) http://slashdot.org/ , you may be surprised.
If I told you that Slashdot is capable of making Opera 10 browser (and 9) hit 100% on a G5 2500 (IBM 970MP), intel latest generation core duo and most importantly this poor G4 Mini?
Opera core is coded in a way to actually run, render on 100 Mhz ARM CPU. Opera doesn't hate Slashdot (they even have shortcut) or Slashdot doesn't hate Opera. Even if they hated, there is no way you will be able to find all Opera issues and code specifically to break it. Slashdot is not Microsoft (that MSN scandal costed them) and they don't have coding resources.
I haven't seen Opera using 100% CPU to the point of displaying a spinning wheel on any site except slashdot. None. Flash could cause such thing but not a spinning wheel.
It is almost something that I am afraid MS will get the slashdot code, copy whatever makes Opera and Firefox go down to their knees and feed those browsers with that code on their sites. BTW IE 8 on 64bit Windows 7 is acting strange on Slashdot too.
All of these browsers display other sites fine, act normally. It is only Slashdot making them nuts. I also don't understand why they don't code with web standards while overhauling site. It would make people way more understanding like "they try to support standards, be patient".