Most widely used doesn't really cut it. Can Mono run unmodified.NET 3.5SP1 code just like Java runs? No? Why does it exist than?
Why wouldn't MS release.NET 3.5SP1 for Linux? Let me tell you, they can't even if they want to since.NET is a WINDOWS FRAMEWORK, designed with Windows in mind and will save Microsoft for a while.
I am not against.NET BTW; I have run some pretty decent applications even on emulated Intel (on G5, MS VPC 7/XP). I am just against showing Mono as something it can never be.
People didn't install/link to some lame ass clone of ''SCO Unixware'' framework, that is how it didn't work with SCO.
If SCO saved Novell from chapter 11 with mysterious undisclosed agreements and that guy came up with some ''cool named'' (Tarantula?) clone of Unixware framework and people linked to it, it was included in Debian, we would see how it would work for SCO.
Linux won because it didn't steal. Do you think the community, slashdot etc. mattered to judge?
Listen Mono developer. Ubuntu is ''owned'' by a very successful billionaire and last time I checked, even makes money. It has a huge community which are there because they love the product, not like they are paid to be there.
Don't confuse Ubuntu with that bailed out by Microsoft failed server company named Novell and your once famous now sold out false prophet.
If I had the smallest clue how you guys tricked Debian into this...
The community isn't stupid, they figure the entire thing from basic users to legendary, pragma shifting developers. Please use your MS coupons whatever for Visual Studio 2008 and real.NET and leave Linux alone.
Ever bothered to ask or check the views of the inventor of Web's opinions about inline images inside web pages? It may surprise you just like hearing a cinema genius like Hitchcock on ''talking'' movies.
In fact, I am sad to say that your super stylish web browser, the pages you browse, the Ajax trickery you love are sometimes coded in 80x50 terminals with emacs or vi because the developers of them doesn't give a shit to point and click interface.
While on it, Slashdot looks best on elinks these days...
The application being based on GTK really should mean something to that guy who is behind all of this mess. Perhaps he can somehow remember good old days and why Gnome project was started at first place.
Hope they won't trick Gnome (3) to include/depend/link to Mono. It would mark the end of Gnome especially since Nokia owns Qt and generously made it all free.
Thanks for pointing it out, I thought it was some real crazy idea while writing it myself. It is some kind of a good point made with code.
''That would be J#. C# and.NET are genuinely better.''
You should have added ''on supported Windows operating systems''. It changes things you know.
It is like ''I will code a end user application in GNUStep and I will have same features as Cocoa on OS X''. Well, good luck with it that. It is not impossible, it is just difficult, very difficult since you won't have Quicktime etc. to rely on.
People are tricked into thinking Mono can ever be a full feature replacement for Windows.NET and they even bug my Windows developer friends to ''click a button'' to ship their.NET code for Linux/Mono. It takes a while to explain why it is not possible.
Thank God since nobody except some little fan gang of that guy cares about Mono enough to rely on it.
Of course, if the real evil plan of getting it included like a trojan on a respected, definition of open source Linux distro like Debian works, things may change...
Funny is, people not caring enough to figure Mono is nowhere near to be replacement/alternative to real Microsoft.NET. There isn't a single important application which exists both on Windows and Linux thanks to Mono. Oh some music player maybe? Well, for me, download.com top 10 matters. I always see Limewire, Vuze in top 10 lists since they are written in true multiplatform language which has feature and major version parity between all major operating systems one way or another.
Mono is more like gcj I would say but gcj can actually run pretty modern Java code with all the GUI tricks if needed and it runs even faster. Can you picture MS allowing their multi billion dollar clone framework to perform better on a free operating system? I wished MS really changed their attitude and for example, release IE for Linux which would exist thanks to Mono and save millions of people from virtual machines. If this sounds funny to you, tens of nerds trying to catch a moving multi billion dollar target from a convicted monopolist looks funnier to me.
It seems the excellent look, ease of use/install and several binary stuff (not evil) like Nvidia drivers, Adobe Flash made people forget what GNU/Linux is and the philosophy behind it.
Novell is a company who was going all GM way before MS deal. The guy behind Mono is at a very high position at Novell and also happens to be behind Silverlight clone, Moonlight. Half of his blog includes Microsoft, Redmond. His fame comes from Gnome when it was created because of non technical, political reason of Trolltech Qt not being really GPL (which is all fixed now), he applied for a job at MS before open source and got rejected, there isn't a single reason to code Tom Tom in that language, there are dozens of ways to code it, it doesn't even get mentioned in windows scene...
Should I be reminding these as a OS X user? RMS, being founder of GNU has all the right to bitch about Debian GNU/Linux including a patent death trap. That trojan developer really knows what means to be included in Debian distro, it is some sort of unofficial proof that Mono is a credible open source framework, not a trojan half ass clone.
Debian guys must be fools to allow their credibility and respect earned for years to be abused like that. At least Novell got saved from Chapter 11 and Icaza has a job, what does Debian earn except the loss of respect?
May I ask your connection with Mono and Microsoft?
If you have anything to do, shouldn't you put a disclaimer? Your post makes no sense especially since the Sun Java is actually GPL now, with all strings removed.
Microsoft conspired Java with their ''embrace and extend'' trick, the day Sun figured it out, they sued them, when MS figured they will be in huge trouble as court will likely decide siding with Sun, they settled outside court, for millions of dollars.
It is one of the several mistakes in your post.
MS doesn't need to do anything to Mono, Mono stinks all by itself because.NET is designed for Windows. Several important parts are missing, Windows developers are at 3.5 SP! level, beta people are already checking version 4. What is Mono at? 2? Without very important windows forms right?
No matter how you like to soften, it is the view of freedom, open source and it has been for ages.
It is anarchy, anti big corporation, some sense of communism, fanaticism. Don't let corporate monkeys like Icaza or Novell fool you.
A half ass fake C application and a clone of a clone of a framework has no place in Debian. It is not what Debian is. In fact, if this is the new policy of Debian, they should change the distro's name and allow people who understands what GNU/Linux is use the name.
If it was any other distro, it wouldn't bother people that much. We speak about benchmark of free software. Debian is actually used as reference when people get confused about some weird license developer uses. ''Does Debian have it?'' is a very common question in scene.
So, can you remember the leaked documents named ''Halloween'' something?
Remember the weak point of Linux as reported? Easy to divide politically. Icaza and gang really serves this purpose well.
I wonder if there will be one heroic developer with time to waste in hand will convert Tom Tom whatever that trojan is to GTK (remember GTK Icaza?) and Qt. In fact, while wasting time, I would use GNUStep and release same code on Windows, OS X and Linux. That would show what multi platform and open means to people spending time at Redmond while Open Suse releases a major version.
Try to switch from MS to anything else. Open source, half open source, closed source. That will be the time when you understand what ''rape'' is.
You know, mafia types are cool and friendly people until you do something bothering their business.
My attitude against Mono is something really different. If you want to use MS technology, fine, use it... Just don't fool yourself with half ass clones of it. What is the latest and greatest server from MS? Windows Server 2008? OK, buy it, install.NET 3.5, Visual Studio and have fun. Just don't be fooled by MS or their trojans since the open source planet who actually knows what open source philosophy about it laughs at you.
If they really replaced the internal mainframe components (while it makes no sense), they could basically remove the running CPU "books" by hand and put new "books" without a milisecond disruption in service. That is the interesting part of mainframe. A CPU (sets of CPUS, chips) are fit to a "Book" and as every electronic part, it has a expire time. What happens when they die after 25 years? You unplug them and replace them with fresh ones.
IMHO FAA is making a mistake by moving to "non mainframe" but it is their setup. It may prove to be "more expensive" than that giant Z10 (current stuff) mainframe. I mean maintaining thousands of PCs which were designed to be "Terminals" as a mainframe, their power cost, space needs etc.
The difference is, US Court system somehow managed to make IBM listen and get afraid while MS doesn't really care about their decisions.
I think you speak about the original FUD campaign by IBM. They got hit hard by the court later. Or... competitors being allowed to run 100% compatible with their systems... They got ordered by court to accept it and they respected.
Now install Windows 7 beta freely from Microsoft and look at that giant IE icon right next at "start" menu with links to "Get Live software" when you press the start menu first time. Can you claim they actually care about US court decisions, EU investigations? If they cared, that "IE" icon could be easily opening a giant window showing current selection of browsers which are major (FF, Opera, Safari, Chrome etc.) and when you click on icon, it could download the latest (e.g. mozilla.org/win-7.latest.msi) via cURL and set it up.
Microsoft and partners are the last people on planet to talk about "evil" behavior.
I hate to make you more sad but I am somehow sure the people on streets of Iran also may have cared of death of Michael Jackson.
When media speaks about ''first true global star'' they know something.
In fact, people from Mid East thinks whatever happened to him (in his life) was happened mostly because he was a black guy. It is not just mid east, Trey and Parker also suggested similar thing in South Park.
It is not just about his music and some music videos, it has a deeper global meaning, not just that ''he was black'' thing either.
The users who were prisoned to Windows will see Windows 7 as second coming. Why? Their quality expectations are just ''it doesn't crash'', ''performs as fast as XP'.
I am actually testing the 64bit 7 on latest gen Mac Mini (with a real gpu) and I just shake my head asking ''dear MS, when will you learn what your users want?''. Issue starts with needlessly rebooting the system 3-4 times on such a basic (no scsi and fiber etc) computer while installing. Why? Why on earth your reboot a freaking machine 4 times? If I could find a place to feedback at MS, I was ready to submit that question. While on it, I will ask them if they will die if they put a eject icon instead of ''safely remove hardware'' in case of USB key drive.
Windows users won't sit and argue about the geometrical and perspective issue of dock (taskbar). It actually happened on OS X scene. Snow Leopard must be so good that people will upgrade their perfectly running Leopard which will be likely at 10.5.9+ levels to 10.6. The bar is really set high. For MS, it should just perform as XP and look like Vista. That is all they care about.
No, if he wasn't that easily impressed with high tech weaponry and cared about the financial implications of Tiger tank, that stealth plane, the never shipped other "cool stuff" (in technological context), you (?) wouldn't have beaten him.
You can make 10 high end allied tanks with the money required for a single Tiger tank. So what if Tiger is state of art high technology? 10 "lower tech" Shermans can still butcher it.
He had zero clue about the war economics. BTW, regardless of what some would think, Governments still PAY for the goods they buy during the war. It is not like they get it free. It must be considerably less but companies still make profit.
Picking on a sex change makes entire thing useless.
So what if he changed sex? Funny is, people supposed to know mail systems should have a bit clue about its history.
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There is some sort of perverse pleasure in knowing that it's basically impossible to send a piece of hate mail through the Internet without its being touched by a gay program. That's kind of funny.
So, Javascript is not a language? Do you know how complex can a Firefox extension can be and the amount of time required to keep it trouble free for millions of users?
Of course, they are not being uber cool C code also permits people to steal it. You can read the code so why not copy paste right? It is not like it is "real code"?
I will post a RFE to Firefox to ROT13 the extensions, perhaps being incomprehensible looking will give them more credit for their years of work...:)
Having a "Chinese" number doesn't automatically make you suspect to ignoring lawsuits. Having Redmond or Cupertino number could be worse since you would have an army of lawyers to spare.
Imagine you are a professional developer and sometimes considering to contribute to open source stuff which many of them does, in fake names or nicks. Why would you do it for? For yourself and community.
How would you think if you browsed this very story comments and seeing "oh but it is not stealing", "stop whining", "citation needed" junk? I know several people who are very advanced developers, contributed to open source and got sick of the never thanking, understanding community and gave up. They now enjoy their millions from "evil companies" at least gives credit to their time.
Flashgot people served OS X community who doesn't know they already have a great download manager named "curl" in their default OS X installation. I really respect them for that. They could code a $20 download manager or add some "ask.com" "google" toolbar and enjoy the constant income. Of course, as they ship it free, open source, in XUL format (not cool C!), their code deserves to get stolen. You know, in open source, they just sleep with laptop open and code writes itself.. Automatically!
Yes, they stole , hours or perhaps days/months of work. Also others work as they reported issues, donated etc.
It is stealing. They stole a digital artifact, they stole "information", "knowledge". They took something without doing something required or giving something required (credit). It is 2009 already and you people have issues with understanding the difference between "virtual" and "real" things. Virtual things can cost money, time and even health and they don't really differ from real things you can hold with your hand.
In fact, Flashgot people could even sell their completely open source extension and could also have right to blame users who doesn't "buy" it. Just as explained there: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
It is not a movie, don't go into "but it is not stealing" mode immediately. Oh yes, pirating a Hollywood movie is stealing too... Like I explained above. I don't really care if producer is Satan himself.
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Most widely used doesn't really cut it. Can Mono run unmodified .NET 3.5SP1 code just like Java runs? No? Why does it exist than?
Why wouldn't MS release .NET 3.5SP1 for Linux? Let me tell you, they can't even if they want to since .NET is a WINDOWS FRAMEWORK, designed with Windows in mind and will save Microsoft for a while.
I am not against .NET BTW; I have run some pretty decent applications even on emulated Intel (on G5, MS VPC 7/XP). I am just against showing Mono as something it can never be.
People didn't install/link to some lame ass clone of ''SCO Unixware'' framework, that is how it didn't work with SCO.
If SCO saved Novell from chapter 11 with mysterious undisclosed agreements and that guy came up with some ''cool named'' (Tarantula?) clone of Unixware framework and people linked to it, it was included in Debian, we would see how it would work for SCO.
Linux won because it didn't steal. Do you think the community, slashdot etc. mattered to judge?
So the point being? Why are you trying to change the direction of discussion?
Guy made a good joke and you tail at his comment with a completely irrelevant thing which you misunderstood from the beginning.
Are we doing basic politics on slashdot now?
Listen Mono developer. Ubuntu is ''owned'' by a very successful billionaire and last time I checked, even makes money. It has a huge community which are there because they love the product, not like they are paid to be there.
Don't confuse Ubuntu with that bailed out by Microsoft failed server company named Novell and your once famous now sold out false prophet.
If I had the smallest clue how you guys tricked Debian into this...
The community isn't stupid, they figure the entire thing from basic users to legendary, pragma shifting developers. Please use your MS coupons whatever for Visual Studio 2008 and real .NET and leave Linux alone.
Does he even know who Knuth is? Or that entire generation is?
I am sure Steve Jobs and even retired Bill Gates doesn't have time to browse the junk he browses (and calls web) for hours.
Ever bothered to ask or check the views of the inventor of Web's opinions about inline images inside web pages? It may surprise you just like hearing a cinema genius like Hitchcock on ''talking'' movies.
In fact, I am sad to say that your super stylish web browser, the pages you browse, the Ajax trickery you love are sometimes coded in 80x50 terminals with emacs or vi because the developers of them doesn't give a shit to point and click interface.
While on it, Slashdot looks best on elinks these days...
The application being based on GTK really should mean something to that guy who is behind all of this mess. Perhaps he can somehow remember good old days and why Gnome project was started at first place.
Hope they won't trick Gnome (3) to include/depend/link to Mono. It would mark the end of Gnome especially since Nokia owns Qt and generously made it all free.
Thanks for pointing it out, I thought it was some real crazy idea while writing it myself. It is some kind of a good point made with code.
''That would be J#. C# and .NET are genuinely better.''
You should have added ''on supported Windows operating systems''. It changes things you know.
It is like ''I will code a end user application in GNUStep and I will have same features as Cocoa on OS X''. Well, good luck with it that. It is not impossible, it is just difficult, very difficult since you won't have Quicktime etc. to rely on.
People are tricked into thinking Mono can ever be a full feature replacement for Windows .NET and they even bug my Windows developer friends to ''click a button'' to ship their .NET code for Linux/Mono. It takes a while to explain why it is not possible.
Thank God since nobody except some little fan gang of that guy cares about Mono enough to rely on it.
Of course, if the real evil plan of getting it included like a trojan on a respected, definition of open source Linux distro like Debian works, things may change...
Funny is, people not caring enough to figure Mono is nowhere near to be replacement/alternative to real Microsoft .NET. There isn't a single important application which exists both on Windows and Linux thanks to Mono. Oh some music player maybe? Well, for me, download.com top 10 matters. I always see Limewire, Vuze in top 10 lists since they are written in true multiplatform language which has feature and major version parity between all major operating systems one way or another.
Mono is more like gcj I would say but gcj can actually run pretty modern Java code with all the GUI tricks if needed and it runs even faster. Can you picture MS allowing their multi billion dollar clone framework to perform better on a free operating system? I wished MS really changed their attitude and for example, release IE for Linux which would exist thanks to Mono and save millions of people from virtual machines. If this sounds funny to you, tens of nerds trying to catch a moving multi billion dollar target from a convicted monopolist looks funnier to me.
It seems the excellent look, ease of use/install and several binary stuff (not evil) like Nvidia drivers, Adobe Flash made people forget what GNU/Linux is and the philosophy behind it.
Novell is a company who was going all GM way before MS deal. The guy behind Mono is at a very high position at Novell and also happens to be behind Silverlight clone, Moonlight. Half of his blog includes Microsoft, Redmond. His fame comes from Gnome when it was created because of non technical, political reason of Trolltech Qt not being really GPL (which is all fixed now), he applied for a job at MS before open source and got rejected, there isn't a single reason to code Tom Tom in that language, there are dozens of ways to code it, it doesn't even get mentioned in windows scene...
Should I be reminding these as a OS X user? RMS, being founder of GNU has all the right to bitch about Debian GNU/Linux including a patent death trap. That trojan developer really knows what means to be included in Debian distro, it is some sort of unofficial proof that Mono is a credible open source framework, not a trojan half ass clone.
Debian guys must be fools to allow their credibility and respect earned for years to be abused like that. At least Novell got saved from Chapter 11 and Icaza has a job, what does Debian earn except the loss of respect?
May I ask your connection with Mono and Microsoft?
If you have anything to do, shouldn't you put a disclaimer? Your post makes no sense especially since the Sun Java is actually GPL now, with all strings removed.
Microsoft conspired Java with their ''embrace and extend'' trick, the day Sun figured it out, they sued them, when MS figured they will be in huge trouble as court will likely decide siding with Sun, they settled outside court, for millions of dollars.
It is one of the several mistakes in your post.
MS doesn't need to do anything to Mono, Mono stinks all by itself because .NET is designed for Windows. Several important parts are missing, Windows developers are at 3.5 SP! level, beta people are already checking version 4. What is Mono at? 2? Without very important windows forms right?
No matter how you like to soften, it is the view of freedom, open source and it has been for ages.
It is anarchy, anti big corporation, some sense of communism, fanaticism. Don't let corporate monkeys like Icaza or Novell fool you.
A half ass fake C application and a clone of a clone of a framework has no place in Debian. It is not what Debian is. In fact, if this is the new policy of Debian, they should change the distro's name and allow people who understands what GNU/Linux is use the name.
If it was any other distro, it wouldn't bother people that much. We speak about benchmark of free software. Debian is actually used as reference when people get confused about some weird license developer uses. ''Does Debian have it?'' is a very common question in scene.
So, can you remember the leaked documents named ''Halloween'' something?
Remember the weak point of Linux as reported? Easy to divide politically. Icaza and gang really serves this purpose well.
I wonder if there will be one heroic developer with time to waste in hand will convert Tom Tom whatever that trojan is to GTK (remember GTK Icaza?) and Qt. In fact, while wasting time, I would use GNUStep and release same code on Windows, OS X and Linux. That would show what multi platform and open means to people spending time at Redmond while Open Suse releases a major version.
Try to switch from MS to anything else. Open source, half open source, closed source. That will be the time when you understand what ''rape'' is.
You know, mafia types are cool and friendly people until you do something bothering their business.
My attitude against Mono is something really different. If you want to use MS technology, fine, use it... Just don't fool yourself with half ass clones of it. What is the latest and greatest server from MS? Windows Server 2008? OK, buy it, install .NET 3.5, Visual Studio and have fun. Just don't be fooled by MS or their trojans since the open source planet who actually knows what open source philosophy about it laughs at you.
If they really replaced the internal mainframe components (while it makes no sense), they could basically remove the running CPU "books" by hand and put new "books" without a milisecond disruption in service. That is the interesting part of mainframe. A CPU (sets of CPUS, chips) are fit to a "Book" and as every electronic part, it has a expire time. What happens when they die after 25 years? You unplug them and replace them with fresh ones.
IMHO FAA is making a mistake by moving to "non mainframe" but it is their setup. It may prove to be "more expensive" than that giant Z10 (current stuff) mainframe. I mean maintaining thousands of PCs which were designed to be "Terminals" as a mainframe, their power cost, space needs etc.
The difference is, US Court system somehow managed to make IBM listen and get afraid while MS doesn't really care about their decisions.
I think you speak about the original FUD campaign by IBM. They got hit hard by the court later. Or... competitors being allowed to run 100% compatible with their systems... They got ordered by court to accept it and they respected.
Now install Windows 7 beta freely from Microsoft and look at that giant IE icon right next at "start" menu with links to "Get Live software" when you press the start menu first time. Can you claim they actually care about US court decisions, EU investigations? If they cared, that "IE" icon could be easily opening a giant window showing current selection of browsers which are major (FF, Opera, Safari, Chrome etc.) and when you click on icon, it could download the latest (e.g. mozilla.org/win-7.latest.msi) via cURL and set it up.
Microsoft and partners are the last people on planet to talk about "evil" behavior.
I hate to make you more sad but I am somehow sure the people on streets of Iran also may have cared of death of Michael Jackson.
When media speaks about ''first true global star'' they know something.
In fact, people from Mid East thinks whatever happened to him (in his life) was happened mostly because he was a black guy. It is not just mid east, Trey and Parker also suggested similar thing in South Park.
It is not just about his music and some music videos, it has a deeper global meaning, not just that ''he was black'' thing either.
The users who were prisoned to Windows will see Windows 7 as second coming. Why? Their quality expectations are just ''it doesn't crash'', ''performs as fast as XP'.
I am actually testing the 64bit 7 on latest gen Mac Mini (with a real gpu) and I just shake my head asking ''dear MS, when will you learn what your users want?''. Issue starts with needlessly rebooting the system 3-4 times on such a basic (no scsi and fiber etc) computer while installing. Why? Why on earth your reboot a freaking machine 4 times? If I could find a place to feedback at MS, I was ready to submit that question. While on it, I will ask them if they will die if they put a eject icon instead of ''safely remove hardware'' in case of USB key drive.
Windows users won't sit and argue about the geometrical and perspective issue of dock (taskbar). It actually happened on OS X scene. Snow Leopard must be so good that people will upgrade their perfectly running Leopard which will be likely at 10.5.9+ levels to 10.6. The bar is really set high. For MS, it should just perform as XP and look like Vista. That is all they care about.
No, if he wasn't that easily impressed with high tech weaponry and cared about the financial implications of Tiger tank, that stealth plane, the never shipped other "cool stuff" (in technological context), you (?) wouldn't have beaten him.
You can make 10 high end allied tanks with the money required for a single Tiger tank. So what if Tiger is state of art high technology? 10 "lower tech" Shermans can still butcher it.
He had zero clue about the war economics. BTW, regardless of what some would think, Governments still PAY for the goods they buy during the war. It is not like they get it free. It must be considerably less but companies still make profit.
Picking on a sex change makes entire thing useless.
So what if he changed sex? Funny is, people supposed to know mail systems should have a bit clue about its history.
(quote)
There is some sort of perverse pleasure in knowing that it's basically impossible to send a piece of hate mail through the Internet without its being touched by a gay program. That's kind of funny.
Eric Allman, author of sendmail.
So, Javascript is not a language? Do you know how complex can a Firefox extension can be and the amount of time required to keep it trouble free for millions of users?
Of course, they are not being uber cool C code also permits people to steal it. You can read the code so why not copy paste right? It is not like it is "real code"?
I will post a RFE to Firefox to ROT13 the extensions, perhaps being incomprehensible looking will give them more credit for their years of work... :)
Having a "Chinese" number doesn't automatically make you suspect to ignoring lawsuits. Having Redmond or Cupertino number could be worse since you would have an army of lawyers to spare.
Imagine you are a professional developer and sometimes considering to contribute to open source stuff which many of them does, in fake names or nicks. Why would you do it for? For yourself and community.
How would you think if you browsed this very story comments and seeing "oh but it is not stealing", "stop whining", "citation needed" junk? I know several people who are very advanced developers, contributed to open source and got sick of the never thanking, understanding community and gave up. They now enjoy their millions from "evil companies" at least gives credit to their time.
Flashgot people served OS X community who doesn't know they already have a great download manager named "curl" in their default OS X installation. I really respect them for that. They could code a $20 download manager or add some "ask.com" "google" toolbar and enjoy the constant income. Of course, as they ship it free, open source, in XUL format (not cool C!), their code deserves to get stolen. You know, in open source, they just sleep with laptop open and code writes itself.. Automatically!
Yes, they stole , hours or perhaps days/months of work. Also others work as they reported issues, donated etc.
It is stealing. They stole a digital artifact, they stole "information", "knowledge". They took something without doing something required or giving something required (credit). It is 2009 already and you people have issues with understanding the difference between "virtual" and "real" things. Virtual things can cost money, time and even health and they don't really differ from real things you can hold with your hand.
In fact, Flashgot people could even sell their completely open source extension and could also have right to blame users who doesn't "buy" it. Just as explained there: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
It is not a movie, don't go into "but it is not stealing" mode immediately. Oh yes, pirating a Hollywood movie is stealing too... Like I explained above. I don't really care if producer is Satan himself.