You can get shaver everything replaced by its manufacturers service center. Also there is also a question of safety there since shavers of today are really powerful electric motors working with low voltage and yet high ampere. They are also bound to be working in very wet areas.
Another issue is safety with personal data, in case you forget to erase it. I don`t know if it is even possible to "zero all data" erase a iPhone. Files can be easily recovered and kept for future at some guys USB key. It is not magic, it is basically HFS+ journaled. Dozens of unerase utils exist.
Take that risk for a stinking battery? Always think "what if Nokia did it" before trying to defend iPhone.
Well, my brother who loves his iPhone had to call me with emergency since he was basically not able to turn off his phone before entering the plane. They simply suggested him to leave the device to their safe (at airport) and when the opened that safe as guy still struggles with his iPhone, there were 3-4 more iPhones there. At last resort, he asked me so perhaps I can find a "trick" from Internet. Luckily, it was able to turn off.
There are amazingly small, amazingly thin phones out there and all have user replaceable batteries.
About your shaver remark. Yes, I do have a Philips shaver which is totally waterproof so it can run under shower. It also happens to have Lithium battery inside which totally wore out in 2 years. Do you know what I look for? Some environmentally safe Lithium recycling box so I can throw it away. It is one of high end ones but I really can`t stand to the idea of getting ripped off at service center.
You like iPhone? Fine but please, please stop apologizing for Apple.
As Symbian UIQ died going chapter 11, Sony Ericsson mysteriously stopped offering application and firmware updates for UIQ handsets like P1i.
So while browsing Windows 7 MS forums, I found a desperate owner of P1i like me looking for a way to sync/backup his phone under Windows 7. I simply suggested getting ''XP mode'' from MS as the application and drivers he tries to run will not just work, they will also effect stability of OS.
What I mean is, XP will stay there almost forever because of reasons like these. Oh BTW, a MS engineer marked his own answer which is basically as template making no sense (contact vendor for update) as ''answer'' to the issue. They get bonus from these? Ballmer should check.
GPS chip vendors are in untested territory lately, miniaturization of GPS chip is a huge race going on since GPS chips were designed 4-5 years ago in times when ''real'' GPS devices which are bulky and having lots of space.
I wonder if they use the same chip, there aren't many chip vendors as one may think, just look at how many different wireless chip vendors out there... Not many.
I don't wish for such a thing as it would really hit Apple big time and even effect us, Apple Desktop users hating iPhone but man... It would be ultimate justice for designing first ever popular handheld Unix device and locking it in a way that user can't even change the battery.
I am about to file a bug report to a Symbian beta software because I busted it using amazing amounts of CPU if it changes the wireless network while other network it was connected is doing kinda OK with 30-40 percent levels.
It is more like Apple OS X scheme of things, access point groups. Issue comes from application since it has its own access points code. Doesn't use system's built in.
How could I figure the huge CPU load? Simple, battery went hot and died in hours. It is like old fashion way of figuring CPU load.
What I mean is don't eliminate CPU immediately, they are portable devices running portable CPU which was never designed for 24/7 full CPU load.
What we need is, some heroic blog hack the iPhone 3G, install standard UNIX tools (ps) and run ps -aux (or top) whenever it gets hot. I am NOT suggesting it to actual iPhone 3GS owners. You bought it, report bug to Apple using http://bugreporter.apple.com/ . Duplicate reports are always welcome at Apple, they work like ''vote''.
What it does is giving stats about memory usage, one click "garbage collection". Of course, it is Java.
It should be easier to do in C right? So people could see where did memory go, if it is used in caches etc. I don't think XUL is allowed to do such things for security so it should enter to main code.
Well, Opera owns the mobile space with Opera Mini, it is the number 1 browser right now. If they release 9.x (or 10) for Symbian S60 soon, it will even get better.
IMHO AOL should have adopted Seamonkey with a huge donation and release it as "Netscape 10" or something, with a custom theme. It is clear that some people like "suite" type of things.
May I really ask who or what Firefox developers fight(!) with? Like or not, MSI is the way to get into Enterprise, a signed MSI is even better. In fact, most of.exe installers you see these days are actually MSI packaged in.exe.
It is really interesting that they insist on not shipping MSI versions of their software, at least in a FTP folder like "alternate_installers" which admins will pull msi from. It became even more interesting since I found this: http://wix.sourceforge.net/ , yes open source from MS, hosted by Sourceforge and it actually works. What does MSI do? Hurt feelings of the developers there? I really can't understand. It is basically RPM for Windows which gives some bonus features like repair etc. to ordinary users but it is huge deal on enterprise.
ps: Same thing on OS X but we are kinda fine with Drag&Drop installs while it even matters at home sized networks. A.pkg would be way better. Anyway, no gigantic enterprise sized OS X networks around like the Windows ones.
Won't people flame "It is using 200% CPU?". I notice same people asking for 64bit everything makes scene about browser using 1 gig RAM. This attitude really started to hurt the development of all applications I think.
What matters is, it should not leak memory or "hog" the CPU as result of bad programming, otherwise I am all for Caches, multiple threads etc. IMHO all browsers should at least experiment with "HTML rendering" and "image decoding" as separate threads. Even Symbian (foundation now) demo'ed SMP capability of the upcoming open source Symbian. We talk about low power ARM devices here and a hugely complex operating system which is moving to open source.
IE 8 is not bad but still coded and designed in Microsoft way... Sending URLs of downloads to Microsoft, torturing user if he dares to remove Windows search feature from Windows (yes, 7), claiming W3C Strict XHTML valid sites having "errors" and generally bugging user... I have even installed a download manager just to get rid of that annoying "Notice the information bar?" crap.
My Windows 7 install to Mac Mini is basically "lets have a real windows for stupid Nokia phones in its 20 gig space" and "lets test our sites without too much high tech" thing so, IE basically stays as default browser and IE 6 will run in Virtual XP (ms gives free) but you can't claim IE 8 is not an annoying browser... It is like Bill Gates coming in your house and standing at your back, talking... Trust me, I am not a big fan of mini Steve Jobs (Safari) either but at least, it really behaves like a real OS default browser should behave. Simple, does the job and somehow not bugging. It is like Apple's idea. They give the engine free anyway, all free to come with the next Firefox with extensions, high end features. Omniweb is a good example how to use that great engine.
The speed etc. issues claimed for IE 8, really pushing it too much I agree. All sites work kinda fine, with OK speed but man, that claim that my character by character verified sites are "containing errors" really kills it...
OK, lets say Google is not that big, not evil but some people will be afraid from any company who has that kind of market share in information market.
So, people are a bit paranoid right? Human nature...
Why would that company ship a "updater" application/framework and code it in a way to run every 2 hours with (super user) Administrator powers on both Windows and OS X? Also, why wouldn`t it go away when all google apps removed? It is clear that you made the guy paranoid and guy got rid of all your software. You still push it by keeping the updater application (and its socket) open for 24 hours.
I hate to give Adobe as example but, even Adobe CS4 suite which people buy with their credit card, giving their phone and address to Adobe and pay more than thousand dollars runs updater application, in current user power only when the host applications (photoshop, reader etc) running.
I am speaking about paranoia here and it doesn`t really have to have a technical reason. People, especially Windows users are afraid of such behavior, ask any Windows developer out there. OS X users are not that paranoid yet but they are allergic to software needlessly using Admin powers. When OS X users ask, Google says "but our updater will also update kernel modules etc. in future", what a GREAT way to make guy totally nuts eh?
You really have a example in hand. Real Networks. Why repeat history? Also Real Networks isn`t running a huge search engine which easily finds personal data on web.
Every part of Linux/BSD is clearly documented and documentation goes on for 40 years non stop, without any kind of patent issues and mysterious agreements. It is not the case on.NET.
I know people who happily runs Unix software on their Windows server blades getting first class support if they want to. Yes, not widely known but Windows can run all kinds of server software, not just Apache.
Flame wars? Oh yes, try to ask any community about any kind of issue, e.g. tell OS X community that your OpenGL performance mysteriously dropped half of what it was on Tiger when you upgraded to Leopard. See what kind of feedback you get. So? Pack it up, send a bug report to OS/App vendor and get professional support, find good communities, use Usenet...
It could be basically because they think, assume it is more reliable that way.
Did you use/maintain OS X, especially Leopard (10.5)? If I told you there is absolutely NO reason to clear kernel caches manually or manually update prebinding (on a healthy system) and yet Apple, yes the developer of OS which brought technologies like kextd and kextcache does it in some updates? Especially iTunes updates does it and if you have watched that gigantic perl/python etc. powered "update" from Tiger to Leopard, they sure have knowledge how to do it.
It is really interesting since goodly (or somehow differently) written software simply issues kextunload command to unload its kernel extension, puts new one back in and expects OS X to care about it (with a basic touch to/System/Library/Extensions)
I can`t say OS X is such a OS that can handle everything without reboot but it feels like some people just reboots "because they can" or "lets stay away from support calls, let guy use his bootcache.plist". It is a feeling only. One thing I am sure is, there is absolutely no reason to "attack" kernel caches with rm command, I have put OS X into all kinds of mad situations and it never failed to do its job on that purpose. On one case, it failed to generate and thanks to launchd, it tried again (out of 3 total tries) and succeeded.
It is not big deal BTW, removing a cache file doesn`t hurt anything.
So what is the point of copying entire DVD ROM (notice: DVD ROM) to local hard drive and keeping it even after successful install and activation? Steve Jobs will break into guys home and steal the DVD?
How hard to offer same basic delete functionality via update to windows update framework? As we all know, it is so advanced (!) that it is impossible to implement in any other browser rather than IE. It can be done even with a simple VB Basic script. In fact, someone should do it and post to sourceforge (as it MUST be open source).
Perhaps, XP SP3 owners, especially Netbook owners which became the primary target of XP may need to get rid of gigabytes (yes, gigabytes) of updates without stopping update service, hunting the file salad (in directory which is NOT recommended to browse/modify just like Apple System folder) and delete them praying they won`t break anything?
This kind of "blaming the guy for being a troll because he didn`t agree" belongs to some iSystem, not Windows.
It won't happen on Linux but if you check deeper, Adobe Reader install which produces 220 MB sized (add more to updater).app files on OS X is 20-30 MB in size.
Why? They have licensed inosso technology which basically re-creates data on the fly while installing. Obviously, it can run on Linux if wanted/paid etc.
What I try to say is, there is almost no meaning on the install medium/download size..CAB alone is a excellent, heavy weight compressor and perhaps MS can even license that inosso technology (or stuffit from Smith Micro) and come up with 256MB installer fitting to IE embedded download/install. It won't make Linux something worse.
Don't forget every single download will be kept deep in Windows directory (windows update, downloads etc.) and will just stay there unless you turn off windows update service (stop) and delete them by hand. There is almost no reason to keep them since in case Windows totally breaks, those files will go away too. They don't have expire policy either. E.g. theoretical speaking,.NET 4.2 install won't really remove.NET 4.0 installer files. (no apt-get clean)
I am not exactly a fan of Linux or even OS X install policies but they are angels compared to Windows (including 7).
Windows 7 64bit install is 10 GB, even with significant amount of features turned off (and compressed,removed).
Also, when comparing Linux to anything else, install a full feature development environment to that OS along with Documentation which will also include debug libraries etc. For example Visual Studio and XCode on OS X. That is the real size for you to compare while there are many other effects like Windows help files (CHM) are really,really compressed to a point to choke low Mhz systems.
Another thing is, the amazing waste of space MS does by basically copying entire thing to local HD while installing. I wondered if they were that stupid and now we see the real deal, it was all for these kinds of feature plans. You know, user will likely delete the USB key contents somehow or they will get corrupted etc.
Funny enough that I am running the exact setup he suggests without knowing it. Single admin with shared password and I always choose to get tortured by su command instead of having ''root powers''.
Wonder if we dig well enough, can we find OS X, Unix 03 OS with 10% market share actually carries his recommendations? While people think they are Administrator on OS X, they are more like a super user with good powers. The real ''root'' is even disabled by default. Perhaps at the end, he was proven to be right just like in 5-10 years from now on, we may have to bitterly laugh and tell some that ''We told you'' regarding using.NET on Linux.
You sure know some of the tools, policies on now 40 years old UNIX originates to 10-15 client networks and single sysadmins right? So, the reason of su not accepting wheel doesn't sound that crazy just like watching OS X calling terminals ''teletype'' on 1080p screen doesn't sound crazy too. There were times people saw the inventor of Web's mail address when they typed ''netstat'' and see port 80 open.
Your comment is OFF TOPIC and I don't know about your intentions but it really seems to have some kind of background behind it.
No, everyone doesn't like to browse the web genius. I have a very rich businessman uncle who doesn't even care to learn what Web browser is, his secretary and the media watching company prints out the interesting stuff and he reads them. It doesn't make him a weirdo as you like to show RMS.
I am sure if I checked enough, I would come up with something showing why you may have posted this comment right under +5 funny post but be glad, tired of your clone framework spammy and abusive junk talk which is going nowhere.
I figured the person who wrote that fanatical essay in defense of Mono is also a Debian high level maintainer and likely responsible for inclusion of that tiny utility which also comes with Mono.
That is what Debian has become lately? Does a single person decide what Debian, a benchmark of FSF Linux should include officially?
Not just that, one of the biggest successes of open source desktop, Ubuntu has World War 3 scale flame wars in its community because of Mono. It is particularly interesting since Ubuntu owes much of its success to its highly active community who are being silenced by Mono fanatics abusing their administrative powers.
Let me be the one to say: Congratulations Microsoft, for the first ever Linux virus.
You sound like it is spreading like cancer... Anyway
CodePlex - Open Source Project Hosting Microsoft's open source project hosting web site.
Do you know you guys are just at boundaries of spamming and misinformation? Microsoft's open source hosting? Who the HELL are they? Obviously someone stupid enough to use Microsoft for open source hosting will use Microsoft technologies.
Our numbers regarding relevancy is a bit different. For example, does Mono have such a successful title like Limewire? No? Vuze/Azureus? Man I know very high level Windows developers who makes living from coding in all kinds of environments and they won't even touch Mono. If they need to code for.NIX, there are already established frameworks who spends more time enhancing themselves rather than trying to copy a moving target. They don't need to do such viral Debian package database infection.
Funny is the KDE project which was always looking suspicious turned out to be the ethics champion compared to the camp which started Gnome because ''Qt isn't GPL''. Oh yes, some of us remember these days. Why did Gnome start again? It seems I can't hear from Echo chamber... It started because Trolltech, NOT A CONVICTED MONOPOLIST was acting strange on GPL issue. So, FSF, the ones you see as ''elitists'' wanted a really GPL desktop environment. Your false prophet was one of the lead coders of it and you Mono trojan developers try every way to infect it with your clone of monopolist framework. What I don't understand is, Icaza makes millions at Novell, what do you get in return?
UNIX is owned by The Open Group, Linux isn't Unix, only certified operating systems which will pass and maintain their thousands of tests can be called UNIX. Interestingly enough, a operating system which runs ''X NOT UNIX'' kernel carries UNIX 03 branding now, OS X Leopard/x86.
ATT lost their position for Unix when they got too much greedy and they were actually ordered by court. The case of ATT and SCO has nothing to do with each other.
SCO was just a x86 Unix vendor who claimed Linux stole code (directly, like copy and paste) from their operating system. They can't say they own UNIX, open group owns UNIX.
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You can get shaver everything replaced by its manufacturers service center. Also there is also a question of safety there since shavers of today are really powerful electric motors working with low voltage and yet high ampere. They are also bound to be working in very wet areas.
Another issue is safety with personal data, in case you forget to erase it. I don`t know if it is even possible to "zero all data" erase a iPhone. Files can be easily recovered and kept for future at some guys USB key. It is not magic, it is basically HFS+ journaled. Dozens of unerase utils exist.
Take that risk for a stinking battery? Always think "what if Nokia did it" before trying to defend iPhone.
Well, my brother who loves his iPhone had to call me with emergency since he was basically not able to turn off his phone before entering the plane. They simply suggested him to leave the device to their safe (at airport) and when the opened that safe as guy still struggles with his iPhone, there were 3-4 more iPhones there. At last resort, he asked me so perhaps I can find a "trick" from Internet. Luckily, it was able to turn off.
There are amazingly small, amazingly thin phones out there and all have user replaceable batteries.
About your shaver remark. Yes, I do have a Philips shaver which is totally waterproof so it can run under shower. It also happens to have Lithium battery inside which totally wore out in 2 years. Do you know what I look for? Some environmentally safe Lithium recycling box so I can throw it away. It is one of high end ones but I really can`t stand to the idea of getting ripped off at service center.
You like iPhone? Fine but please, please stop apologizing for Apple.
As Symbian UIQ died going chapter 11, Sony Ericsson mysteriously stopped offering application and firmware updates for UIQ handsets like P1i.
So while browsing Windows 7 MS forums, I found a desperate owner of P1i like me looking for a way to sync/backup his phone under Windows 7. I simply suggested getting ''XP mode'' from MS as the application and drivers he tries to run will not just work, they will also effect stability of OS.
What I mean is, XP will stay there almost forever because of reasons like these. Oh BTW, a MS engineer marked his own answer which is basically as template making no sense (contact vendor for update) as ''answer'' to the issue. They get bonus from these? Ballmer should check.
GPS chip vendors are in untested territory lately, miniaturization of GPS chip is a huge race going on since GPS chips were designed 4-5 years ago in times when ''real'' GPS devices which are bulky and having lots of space.
I wonder if they use the same chip, there aren't many chip vendors as one may think, just look at how many different wireless chip vendors out there... Not many.
I don't wish for such a thing as it would really hit Apple big time and even effect us, Apple Desktop users hating iPhone but man... It would be ultimate justice for designing first ever popular handheld Unix device and locking it in a way that user can't even change the battery.
I am about to file a bug report to a Symbian beta software because I busted it using amazing amounts of CPU if it changes the wireless network while other network it was connected is doing kinda OK with 30-40 percent levels.
It is more like Apple OS X scheme of things, access point groups. Issue comes from application since it has its own access points code. Doesn't use system's built in.
How could I figure the huge CPU load? Simple, battery went hot and died in hours. It is like old fashion way of figuring CPU load.
What I mean is don't eliminate CPU immediately, they are portable devices running portable CPU which was never designed for 24/7 full CPU load.
What we need is, some heroic blog hack the iPhone 3G, install standard UNIX tools (ps) and run ps -aux (or top) whenever it gets hot. I am NOT suggesting it to actual iPhone 3GS owners. You bought it, report bug to Apple using http://bugreporter.apple.com/ . Duplicate reports are always welcome at Apple, they work like ''vote''.
I wonder if something like this http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_details.php?plugin=monitoringplugin can be coded in Firefox, as extension to firefox like firefox:memstats
What it does is giving stats about memory usage, one click "garbage collection". Of course, it is Java.
It should be easier to do in C right? So people could see where did memory go, if it is used in caches etc. I don't think XUL is allowed to do such things for security so it should enter to main code.
Well, Opera owns the mobile space with Opera Mini, it is the number 1 browser right now. If they release 9.x (or 10) for Symbian S60 soon, it will even get better.
IMHO AOL should have adopted Seamonkey with a huge donation and release it as "Netscape 10" or something, with a custom theme. It is clear that some people like "suite" type of things.
May I really ask who or what Firefox developers fight(!) with? Like or not, MSI is the way to get into Enterprise, a signed MSI is even better. In fact, most of .exe installers you see these days are actually MSI packaged in .exe.
It is really interesting that they insist on not shipping MSI versions of their software, at least in a FTP folder like "alternate_installers" which admins will pull msi from. It became even more interesting since I found this: http://wix.sourceforge.net/ , yes open source from MS, hosted by Sourceforge and it actually works. What does MSI do? Hurt feelings of the developers there? I really can't understand. It is basically RPM for Windows which gives some bonus features like repair etc. to ordinary users but it is huge deal on enterprise.
ps: Same thing on OS X but we are kinda fine with Drag&Drop installs while it even matters at home sized networks. A .pkg would be way better. Anyway, no gigantic enterprise sized OS X networks around like the Windows ones.
Won't people flame "It is using 200% CPU?". I notice same people asking for 64bit everything makes scene about browser using 1 gig RAM. This attitude really started to hurt the development of all applications I think.
What matters is, it should not leak memory or "hog" the CPU as result of bad programming, otherwise I am all for Caches, multiple threads etc. IMHO all browsers should at least experiment with "HTML rendering" and "image decoding" as separate threads. Even Symbian (foundation now) demo'ed SMP capability of the upcoming open source Symbian. We talk about low power ARM devices here and a hugely complex operating system which is moving to open source.
IE 8 is not bad but still coded and designed in Microsoft way... Sending URLs of downloads to Microsoft, torturing user if he dares to remove Windows search feature from Windows (yes, 7), claiming W3C Strict XHTML valid sites having "errors" and generally bugging user... I have even installed a download manager just to get rid of that annoying "Notice the information bar?" crap.
My Windows 7 install to Mac Mini is basically "lets have a real windows for stupid Nokia phones in its 20 gig space" and "lets test our sites without too much high tech" thing so, IE basically stays as default browser and IE 6 will run in Virtual XP (ms gives free) but you can't claim IE 8 is not an annoying browser... It is like Bill Gates coming in your house and standing at your back, talking... Trust me, I am not a big fan of mini Steve Jobs (Safari) either but at least, it really behaves like a real OS default browser should behave. Simple, does the job and somehow not bugging. It is like Apple's idea. They give the engine free anyway, all free to come with the next Firefox with extensions, high end features. Omniweb is a good example how to use that great engine.
The speed etc. issues claimed for IE 8, really pushing it too much I agree. All sites work kinda fine, with OK speed but man, that claim that my character by character verified sites are "containing errors" really kills it...
OK, lets say Google is not that big, not evil but some people will be afraid from any company who has that kind of market share in information market.
So, people are a bit paranoid right? Human nature...
Why would that company ship a "updater" application/framework and code it in a way to run every 2 hours with (super user) Administrator powers on both Windows and OS X? Also, why wouldn`t it go away when all google apps removed? It is clear that you made the guy paranoid and guy got rid of all your software. You still push it by keeping the updater application (and its socket) open for 24 hours.
I hate to give Adobe as example but, even Adobe CS4 suite which people buy with their credit card, giving their phone and address to Adobe and pay more than thousand dollars runs updater application, in current user power only when the host applications (photoshop, reader etc) running.
I am speaking about paranoia here and it doesn`t really have to have a technical reason. People, especially Windows users are afraid of such behavior, ask any Windows developer out there. OS X users are not that paranoid yet but they are allergic to software needlessly using Admin powers. When OS X users ask, Google says "but our updater will also update kernel modules etc. in future", what a GREAT way to make guy totally nuts eh?
You really have a example in hand. Real Networks. Why repeat history? Also Real Networks isn`t running a huge search engine which easily finds personal data on web.
Every part of Linux/BSD is clearly documented and documentation goes on for 40 years non stop, without any kind of patent issues and mysterious agreements. It is not the case on .NET.
I know people who happily runs Unix software on their Windows server blades getting first class support if they want to. Yes, not widely known but Windows can run all kinds of server software, not just Apache.
Flame wars? Oh yes, try to ask any community about any kind of issue, e.g. tell OS X community that your OpenGL performance mysteriously dropped half of what it was on Tiger when you upgraded to Leopard. See what kind of feedback you get. So? Pack it up, send a bug report to OS/App vendor and get professional support, find good communities, use Usenet...
It could be basically because they think, assume it is more reliable that way.
Did you use/maintain OS X, especially Leopard (10.5)? If I told you there is absolutely NO reason to clear kernel caches manually or manually update prebinding (on a healthy system) and yet Apple, yes the developer of OS which brought technologies like kextd and kextcache does it in some updates? Especially iTunes updates does it and if you have watched that gigantic perl/python etc. powered "update" from Tiger to Leopard, they sure have knowledge how to do it.
It is really interesting since goodly (or somehow differently) written software simply issues kextunload command to unload its kernel extension, puts new one back in and expects OS X to care about it (with a basic touch to /System/Library/Extensions)
I can`t say OS X is such a OS that can handle everything without reboot but it feels like some people just reboots "because they can" or "lets stay away from support calls, let guy use his bootcache.plist". It is a feeling only. One thing I am sure is, there is absolutely no reason to "attack" kernel caches with rm command, I have put OS X into all kinds of mad situations and it never failed to do its job on that purpose. On one case, it failed to generate and thanks to launchd, it tried again (out of 3 total tries) and succeeded.
It is not big deal BTW, removing a cache file doesn`t hurt anything.
We all know what off topic, unrelated comments which results in 78 (!!!) other comments taking the basic discussion totally out of hand right?
Look it up...
So what is the point of copying entire DVD ROM (notice: DVD ROM) to local hard drive and keeping it even after successful install and activation? Steve Jobs will break into guys home and steal the DVD?
How hard to offer same basic delete functionality via update to windows update framework? As we all know, it is so advanced (!) that it is impossible to implement in any other browser rather than IE. It can be done even with a simple VB Basic script. In fact, someone should do it and post to sourceforge (as it MUST be open source).
Perhaps, XP SP3 owners, especially Netbook owners which became the primary target of XP may need to get rid of gigabytes (yes, gigabytes) of updates without stopping update service, hunting the file salad (in directory which is NOT recommended to browse/modify just like Apple System folder) and delete them praying they won`t break anything?
This kind of "blaming the guy for being a troll because he didn`t agree" belongs to some iSystem, not Windows.
It won't happen on Linux but if you check deeper, Adobe Reader install which produces 220 MB sized (add more to updater) .app files on OS X is 20-30 MB in size.
Why? They have licensed inosso technology which basically re-creates data on the fly while installing. Obviously, it can run on Linux if wanted/paid etc.
What I try to say is, there is almost no meaning on the install medium/download size. .CAB alone is a excellent, heavy weight compressor and perhaps MS can even license that inosso technology (or stuffit from Smith Micro) and come up with 256MB installer fitting to IE embedded download/install. It won't make Linux something worse.
Don't forget every single download will be kept deep in Windows directory (windows update, downloads etc.) and will just stay there unless you turn off windows update service (stop) and delete them by hand. There is almost no reason to keep them since in case Windows totally breaks, those files will go away too. They don't have expire policy either. E.g. theoretical speaking, .NET 4.2 install won't really remove .NET 4.0 installer files. (no apt-get clean)
I am not exactly a fan of Linux or even OS X install policies but they are angels compared to Windows (including 7).
Windows 7 64bit install is 10 GB, even with significant amount of features turned off (and compressed,removed).
Also, when comparing Linux to anything else, install a full feature development environment to that OS along with Documentation which will also include debug libraries etc. For example Visual Studio and XCode on OS X. That is the real size for you to compare while there are many other effects like Windows help files (CHM) are really,really compressed to a point to choke low Mhz systems.
Another thing is, the amazing waste of space MS does by basically copying entire thing to local HD while installing. I wondered if they were that stupid and now we see the real deal, it was all for these kinds of feature plans. You know, user will likely delete the USB key contents somehow or they will get corrupted etc.
Funny enough that I am running the exact setup he suggests without knowing it. Single admin with shared password and I always choose to get tortured by su command instead of having ''root powers''.
Wonder if we dig well enough, can we find OS X, Unix 03 OS with 10% market share actually carries his recommendations? While people think they are Administrator on OS X, they are more like a super user with good powers. The real ''root'' is even disabled by default. Perhaps at the end, he was proven to be right just like in 5-10 years from now on, we may have to bitterly laugh and tell some that ''We told you'' regarding using .NET on Linux.
You sure know some of the tools, policies on now 40 years old UNIX originates to 10-15 client networks and single sysadmins right? So, the reason of su not accepting wheel doesn't sound that crazy just like watching OS X calling terminals ''teletype'' on 1080p screen doesn't sound crazy too. There were times people saw the inventor of Web's mail address when they typed ''netstat'' and see port 80 open.
Your comment is OFF TOPIC and I don't know about your intentions but it really seems to have some kind of background behind it.
No, everyone doesn't like to browse the web genius. I have a very rich businessman uncle who doesn't even care to learn what Web browser is, his secretary and the media watching company prints out the interesting stuff and he reads them. It doesn't make him a weirdo as you like to show RMS.
I am sure if I checked enough, I would come up with something showing why you may have posted this comment right under +5 funny post but be glad, tired of your clone framework spammy and abusive junk talk which is going nowhere.
I figured the person who wrote that fanatical essay in defense of Mono is also a Debian high level maintainer and likely responsible for inclusion of that tiny utility which also comes with Mono.
That is what Debian has become lately? Does a single person decide what Debian, a benchmark of FSF Linux should include officially?
Not just that, one of the biggest successes of open source desktop, Ubuntu has World War 3 scale flame wars in its community because of Mono. It is particularly interesting since Ubuntu owes much of its success to its highly active community who are being silenced by Mono fanatics abusing their administrative powers.
Let me be the one to say: Congratulations Microsoft, for the first ever Linux virus.
You sound like it is spreading like cancer... Anyway
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Microsoft's open source project hosting web site.
Do you know you guys are just at boundaries of spamming and misinformation? Microsoft's open source hosting? Who the HELL are they? Obviously someone stupid enough to use Microsoft for open source hosting will use Microsoft technologies.
Our numbers regarding relevancy is a bit different. For example, does Mono have such a successful title like Limewire? No? Vuze/Azureus? Man I know very high level Windows developers who makes living from coding in all kinds of environments and they won't even touch Mono. If they need to code for .NIX, there are already established frameworks who spends more time enhancing themselves rather than trying to copy a moving target. They don't need to do such viral Debian package database infection.
Funny is the KDE project which was always looking suspicious turned out to be the ethics champion compared to the camp which started Gnome because ''Qt isn't GPL''. Oh yes, some of us remember these days. Why did Gnome start again? It seems I can't hear from Echo chamber... It started because Trolltech, NOT A CONVICTED MONOPOLIST was acting strange on GPL issue. So, FSF, the ones you see as ''elitists'' wanted a really GPL desktop environment. Your false prophet was one of the lead coders of it and you Mono trojan developers try every way to infect it with your clone of monopolist framework. What I don't understand is, Icaza makes millions at Novell, what do you get in return?
Echo chamber eh? Good one...
UNIX is owned by The Open Group, Linux isn't Unix, only certified operating systems which will pass and maintain their thousands of tests can be called UNIX. Interestingly enough, a operating system which runs ''X NOT UNIX'' kernel carries UNIX 03 branding now, OS X Leopard/x86.
ATT lost their position for Unix when they got too much greedy and they were actually ordered by court. The case of ATT and SCO has nothing to do with each other.
SCO was just a x86 Unix vendor who claimed Linux stole code (directly, like copy and paste) from their operating system. They can't say they own UNIX, open group owns UNIX.