Do you know what hit them very seriously? I mean the coders laughing to vendors like Opera for struggling not to code CPU and speed dependent stuff?
Mobile computing. It is like ultimate punishment for them. Do you remember those fanatics calling people to ''buy more RAM'' no matter what their issue with memory is? Top of the line smart phone comes with 512MB RAM or something and 400 Mhz ARM CPU. Opera ships 9.5 beta which runs the exact same engine as Desktop version to 256MB RAM having, 200Mhz CPU UIQ3 devices with zero vendor support.
I know some professional OS X developers keeping a G4 Mac Mini no matter how many xeons they have, just to make sure their application runs on low end computers fine. So far, thanks to their wise decision, their software gets good feedback not just from low end but very high end computers too. If it works on low end, it will rock on high end. Trust me, some of the ''cool guys'' out there still couldn't figure this basic rule.
When Webkit proved to work on Nokia S60 Symbian devices and got very good feedback from users, I said Webkit is the future. What mattered was, can the code run under 128MB RAM, completely alien OS? S60 browser proved it.
A company named Apple tried to save itself from the amazingly huge work and tried to modernise and secure MacOS. It took years and a top of the line IT director to admit it won't happen.
Their plan was exactly the same, sandboxed MacOS virtual machines.
They accepted that sad fact, (probably) mailed to their software vendors saying ''We are going with NeXT''
As MS is known for not admitting such facts and keep shipping that biggest PR disaster of all times named IE (I mean it), they may go with your method. There comes the issue of users NOT wanting to run Virtual Machines. Trust me, there are many of them out there.
For the IE engine? Even MS can't remove it from OS. It is like a monster in a horror movie, they created it and they can't kill it. What about third party apps and legendary compatibility which causes users live with 1990s 8.3 filename shit in 2009, even on Windows 7?
If you watch burn process in Roxio Toast, you will be even more surprised. If you set it to max speed like 16x, it hits 16x only at certain parts (I guess the end) of DVD-R, not the entire process is 16x. It shows the live speed of burning, I guess Windows Nero does too.
If this thing mentioned requires special disks, they will be expensive as hell just like DVD-R DL, it really hurts to see DVD dual layer price while all your drives are dual layer capable and you have files/movies to burn.
They should have invested in Dual Layer technology, making it cheaper and reliable as the problem is NOT the burning speed, it is the obsolete DVD-R with 6-7 GB single files wondering around. What about Blu-Ray you may ask... Well, with that idiot Sony managed to make even Apple, the World famous early adopter afraid from adding it. When you buy DVD enabled computer, you expect it to play commercial movies. It is not the case in OS X BluRay scene. So, Apple won't put it and handle all the swearing, trolling etc. and they certainly won't make OS X like Vista, DRM checking whole chain all the time just in case DVD Jon codes decss for blu-ray.
There is a very thin line between absolute insecurity and driving user nuts for a Desktop OS. Apple seems doing everything not to pass it, MS doesn't.
If you think about houseviwes running a Unix 03 certified OS instead of Windows because it is easier and more secure, you can understand where such crazy things come from.
Finder can't say ''Permission denied, this will be reported''. It should make easier (and even advertise) for end users to run with non admin accounts. That is why Finder does that crazy thing, to make it possible for user to stay on his/her non privileged account without the horrifying real security risk ''Run As'' scheme.
One of best examples how OS X manages to be secure and non irritating same time comes with OS X fink (fink-project.org) installation.
Look, as Admin (not root) user I want to see information without manipulating mini:~ $ fink list gtk2-engines Information about 7982 packages read in 2 seconds.
gtk2-engines 2.16.1-1 Theme plugins for Gtk
what happens if I want to _install_?
mini:~$ fink install gtk2-engines Password:
It asks my password. So, it is possible to be both secure and convinient. In addition, there is timeout scheme which Apple invented meaning users won't be asked their password until some timeout occurs. Is it too secure? Not but you can bet OS X users doesn't enter their passwords like automated robots as result.
Bin Laden is a wise guy not to use any kind of electronic communication. What guy uses for internal communications are actual donkeys and guys carrying handwritten notes. That is how all those multi billion state of art espionage satellites failed. There is no technology to trace a guy carrying a handwritten note in his pocket on Afghan mountains.
If he asked for polygraph examiners, it could be the reason.
I don't know if that behaviour is changed but I saw 2007 version of F-Secure launching a online scanner right before installing the actual thing from CD and warned user, in very serious manner that the removal tools must be downloaded manually and run for already up and running viruses on PC or the AV won't really help.
That is what Symantec support engineer did, for money of course.
It makes way more sense asking user if they have external drive, backup their home directory (as Windows actually have one, really!) and reinstall the OS. It would take a lot less time in state of current malware. That was the conclusion I reached while trying to fix a infected XP. The boot in safe mode tricks etc. are really over it seems.
As New Mini have fw800, the difference is way more obvious but let me repeat just in case.
FW800 drives have really 800mbit speed, not like 1.5x of USB2 therotical (not real) speed with almost zero CPU overhead. You can also chain them like SCSI without performance loss. That is why it has 1 fw800 port and 4 USB2 ports. Firewire can also be added to PC with very cheap PCI cards if needed and it is NOT a Apple only thing, a conspiracy etc.
Mini's purpose and design is always misunderstood. For example the Seagate Momentus 4200RPM internal coming with G4 Mini is actually more expensive than some 5400 or 7200 drives of same age.
Why Apple choose it? Because that thing has almost no heat produced, no noise either. You can't hear it even while you defrag.
The drive making sense for Mini internal is a 64 or even 32GB SSD along with fw800 or better, gigabit ethernet connected HD in other room used for/Users
I don't want to sound like BillG but 32GB would be really enough if one also uses advantage of OS X not caring where an App actually is.
You should also add the deep reason why. A teaser for people to click he link...
''The ratio of 30 cubits for the circumference to 10 cubits for the diameter "from one brim to the other" of the "completely round" circle gives the value of pi as being exactly 3.''
It is not funny or emotional like declaring Pluto a planet again. It could be horrifying.
Funny is how politicans miss kudos of 20% for not passing a basic law like ''All Government sites should support all web browsers having basic functionality and properly maintained in terms of security''.
Oh of course, I forgot some company with billions of dollars who actually gets happy when their pyramid scheme is in action like the one mentioned on story.
Well Windows admins don't do it so Firefox should give up this childish behaviour and ship native MSI packages. They _are_ shipping a product for Windows, that is the truth. It doesn't matter if they even use PERL for installation, it is really Windows.
MSI is documented and even have open source packagers coming from MS employees themselves.
Soon or later, OS X may need a.pkg (OS X native method) too, depends on the corporate acceptance. You will see the same story will happen again, they will insist people drag and drop from disk images while it is not viable in networks or even large home networks.
If my site was featured on Slashdot (and God knows how many more) sites in this manner, I would reach to Desktop, Start Menu and click Shutdown. If it lagged shutting down, I would unplug the ethernet or mains.
Not kidding. This is a site which people still tries to care about others no matter if they are a pathetic developer or not. Imagine other new fashion sites without any kind of real moderation.
Everyone who doesn't agree with their policies and constant break of backwards compatibility must be troll, right.
If I spared my time and went to some Firefox forum and ask them why does Safari renders text better than Firefox latest which have exact same requirements on OS X, they would also label me as troll and even call me a 'maccie'.
If I told you that I stay away from Firefox just because of their community, without stating any technical reasons?
If you look at market share of Opera which always follows standards and does ''hot patching'' via ua.js and browser.js, you can understand where that quirks mode comes from.
Look to slashdot. All this work, thousands of new lines, Web 2 tricks, a userbase which is ready to beta test and file good bug reports. Where is the XHTML standards compliance? Guess the only site Opera literally chokes right after entering? Slashdot.
Safari was built as the browser for OS X, in Apple style with Apple philosophy from the beginning. Run Konqueror and Safari and look to their preferences, you will understand what I mean.
To have Safari on Linux (exact same Safari), you will need a lot of closed source binary frameworks from Apple. E.g. that CoverFlow thing, Top 10 sites animation are CoreAnimation tricks. What kind of feedback would Apple get if they did all the work on a OS running x.org, multiple flavors and multiple extensions and shipped Safari.app as binary on Linux? Not good I guess. The Linux market is not really suitable for a browser like Safari. It is like iPhone (and app store) vs. OpenMoko or Android.
As for credit? Safari family claimed to hit 10% and they wonder around with this signature: AppleWebKit/528.16 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/528.16
Here is what happened. RIAA looked around and looked for someone who is easy to provoke and also kinda famous, they picked him and trolled him. He has fallen into it.
It was originally Javascript thing which could be fixed just by disabling javascript.
I think the person you replied to has good intentions and can't imagine the issue is that bad and fscking Adobe still wonders around without patching it.
If it was a government created such a security issue for a country, they would resign.
I will take the risk and tell it. Adobe Reader 9 is one of the best performing and low CPU using PDF readers out there and I am writing this from a 1.42 Ghz G4 Mac Mini with 1G RAM installed.
It is real sad that because of the bureaucrats and some idiots at Adobe, one of the most serious multi platform security vulnerabilities happened just when Adobe Reader was heading right direction both in performance and UI wise.
I know what you mean by version 5 and I actually have it installed in a Quad G5 (via Tiger's Classic support). It was just getting fixed in 9 and this junk happened. I bet they will add some junk like UAC of Vista pre SP1 making people even more mad instead of fixing the root of problem.
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Do you know what hit them very seriously? I mean the coders laughing to vendors like Opera for struggling not to code CPU and speed dependent stuff?
Mobile computing. It is like ultimate punishment for them. Do you remember those fanatics calling people to ''buy more RAM'' no matter what their issue with memory is? Top of the line smart phone comes with 512MB RAM or something and 400 Mhz ARM CPU. Opera ships 9.5 beta which runs the exact same engine as Desktop version to 256MB RAM having, 200Mhz CPU UIQ3 devices with zero vendor support.
I know some professional OS X developers keeping a G4 Mac Mini no matter how many xeons they have, just to make sure their application runs on low end computers fine. So far, thanks to their wise decision, their software gets good feedback not just from low end but very high end computers too. If it works on low end, it will rock on high end. Trust me, some of the ''cool guys'' out there still couldn't figure this basic rule.
When Webkit proved to work on Nokia S60 Symbian devices and got very good feedback from users, I said Webkit is the future. What mattered was, can the code run under 128MB RAM, completely alien OS? S60 browser proved it.
A company named Apple tried to save itself from the amazingly huge work and tried to modernise and secure MacOS. It took years and a top of the line IT director to admit it won't happen.
Their plan was exactly the same, sandboxed MacOS virtual machines.
They accepted that sad fact, (probably) mailed to their software vendors saying ''We are going with NeXT''
As MS is known for not admitting such facts and keep shipping that biggest PR disaster of all times named IE (I mean it), they may go with your method. There comes the issue of users NOT wanting to run Virtual Machines. Trust me, there are many of them out there.
For the IE engine? Even MS can't remove it from OS. It is like a monster in a horror movie, they created it and they can't kill it. What about third party apps and legendary compatibility which causes users live with 1990s 8.3 filename shit in 2009, even on Windows 7?
If you watch burn process in Roxio Toast, you will be even more surprised. If you set it to max speed like 16x, it hits 16x only at certain parts (I guess the end) of DVD-R, not the entire process is 16x. It shows the live speed of burning, I guess Windows Nero does too.
If this thing mentioned requires special disks, they will be expensive as hell just like DVD-R DL, it really hurts to see DVD dual layer price while all your drives are dual layer capable and you have files/movies to burn.
They should have invested in Dual Layer technology, making it cheaper and reliable as the problem is NOT the burning speed, it is the obsolete DVD-R with 6-7 GB single files wondering around. What about Blu-Ray you may ask... Well, with that idiot Sony managed to make even Apple, the World famous early adopter afraid from adding it. When you buy DVD enabled computer, you expect it to play commercial movies. It is not the case in OS X BluRay scene. So, Apple won't put it and handle all the swearing, trolling etc. and they certainly won't make OS X like Vista, DRM checking whole chain all the time just in case DVD Jon codes decss for blu-ray.
There is a very thin line between absolute insecurity and driving user nuts for a Desktop OS. Apple seems doing everything not to pass it, MS doesn't.
If you think about houseviwes running a Unix 03 certified OS instead of Windows because it is easier and more secure, you can understand where such crazy things come from.
Finder can't say ''Permission denied, this will be reported''. It should make easier (and even advertise) for end users to run with non admin accounts. That is why Finder does that crazy thing, to make it possible for user to stay on his/her non privileged account without the horrifying real security risk ''Run As'' scheme.
One of best examples how OS X manages to be secure and non irritating same time comes with OS X fink (fink-project.org) installation.
Look, as Admin (not root) user I want to see information without manipulating
mini:~ $ fink list gtk2-engines
Information about 7982 packages read in 2 seconds.
gtk2-engines 2.16.1-1 Theme plugins for Gtk
what happens if I want to _install_?
mini:~$ fink install gtk2-engines
Password:
It asks my password. So, it is possible to be both secure and convinient. In addition, there is timeout scheme which Apple invented meaning users won't be asked their password until some timeout occurs. Is it too secure? Not but you can bet OS X users doesn't enter their passwords like automated robots as result.
Bin Laden is a wise guy not to use any kind of electronic communication. What guy uses for internal communications are actual donkeys and guys carrying handwritten notes. That is how all those multi billion state of art espionage satellites failed. There is no technology to trace a guy carrying a handwritten note in his pocket on Afghan mountains.
If he asked for polygraph examiners, it could be the reason.
I don't know if that behaviour is changed but I saw 2007 version of F-Secure launching a online scanner right before installing the actual thing from CD and warned user, in very serious manner that the removal tools must be downloaded manually and run for already up and running viruses on PC or the AV won't really help.
That is what Symantec support engineer did, for money of course.
It makes way more sense asking user if they have external drive, backup their home directory (as Windows actually have one, really!) and reinstall the OS. It would take a lot less time in state of current malware. That was the conclusion I reached while trying to fix a infected XP. The boot in safe mode tricks etc. are really over it seems.
As New Mini have fw800, the difference is way more obvious but let me repeat just in case.
FW800 drives have really 800mbit speed, not like 1.5x of USB2 therotical (not real) speed with almost zero CPU overhead. You can also chain them like SCSI without performance loss. That is why it has 1 fw800 port and 4 USB2 ports. Firewire can also be added to PC with very cheap PCI cards if needed and it is NOT a Apple only thing, a conspiracy etc.
Mini's purpose and design is always misunderstood. For example the Seagate Momentus 4200RPM internal coming with G4 Mini is actually more expensive than some 5400 or 7200 drives of same age.
Why Apple choose it? Because that thing has almost no heat produced, no noise either. You can't hear it even while you defrag.
The drive making sense for Mini internal is a 64 or even 32GB SSD along with fw800 or better, gigabit ethernet connected HD in other room used for /Users
I don't want to sound like BillG but 32GB would be really enough if one also uses advantage of OS X not caring where an App actually is.
Lacie actually has a disk designed for Mac Mini but it is missing from their store or products now. Perhaps they are upgrading it to fw800?
Here is the page mentioning it, note the date is 2005
http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/326.html
I wish Slashdot had embed tag just for this.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=219507&title=Felonious-Monkeys
They actually argued about monkeys for hours.
Imagine poor Scientist (RIP) when he finds out there was indeed a underworld, Pluto is really its king and he owns Pluto.
Doesn't the name GNU/Linux come to your mind when you read about Pluto drama?
It should be called GNU/Linux but it is called Linux and in the entire future it will be called Linux no matter how good the reasons are.
You should also add the deep reason why. A teaser for people to click he link...
''The ratio of 30 cubits for the circumference to 10 cubits for the diameter "from one brim to the other" of the "completely round" circle gives the value of pi as being exactly 3.''
It is not funny or emotional like declaring Pluto a planet again. It could be horrifying.
Funny is how politicans miss kudos of 20% for not passing a basic law like ''All Government sites should support all web browsers having basic functionality and properly maintained in terms of security''.
Oh of course, I forgot some company with billions of dollars who actually gets happy when their pyramid scheme is in action like the one mentioned on story.
Well Windows admins don't do it so Firefox should give up this childish behaviour and ship native MSI packages. They _are_ shipping a product for Windows, that is the truth. It doesn't matter if they even use PERL for installation, it is really Windows.
MSI is documented and even have open source packagers coming from MS employees themselves.
Soon or later, OS X may need a .pkg (OS X native method) too, depends on the corporate acceptance. You will see the same story will happen again, they will insist people drag and drop from disk images while it is not viable in networks or even large home networks.
If my site was featured on Slashdot (and God knows how many more) sites in this manner, I would reach to Desktop, Start Menu and click Shutdown. If it lagged shutting down, I would unplug the ethernet or mains.
Not kidding. This is a site which people still tries to care about others no matter if they are a pathetic developer or not. Imagine other new fashion sites without any kind of real moderation.
Isn't there commercial or even free packages which would do the same thing without such 'My Documents' thing and emberassment?
I think there must be a lot of them.
I can see CmdrTaco copying your message to his 'places_we_should_never_visit.txt' file.
Everyone who doesn't agree with their policies and constant break of backwards compatibility must be troll, right.
If I spared my time and went to some Firefox forum and ask them why does Safari renders text better than Firefox latest which have exact same requirements on OS X, they would also label me as troll and even call me a 'maccie'.
If I told you that I stay away from Firefox just because of their community, without stating any technical reasons?
If you look at market share of Opera which always follows standards and does ''hot patching'' via ua.js and browser.js, you can understand where that quirks mode comes from.
Look to slashdot. All this work, thousands of new lines, Web 2 tricks, a userbase which is ready to beta test and file good bug reports. Where is the XHTML standards compliance? Guess the only site Opera literally chokes right after entering? Slashdot.
Safari was built as the browser for OS X, in Apple style with Apple philosophy from the beginning. Run Konqueror and Safari and look to their preferences, you will understand what I mean.
To have Safari on Linux (exact same Safari), you will need a lot of closed source binary frameworks from Apple. E.g. that CoverFlow thing, Top 10 sites animation are CoreAnimation tricks. What kind of feedback would Apple get if they did all the work on a OS running x.org, multiple flavors and multiple extensions and shipped Safari.app as binary on Linux? Not good I guess. The Linux market is not really suitable for a browser like Safari. It is like iPhone (and app store) vs. OpenMoko or Android.
As for credit? Safari family claimed to hit 10% and they wonder around with this signature: AppleWebKit/528.16 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/528.16
See the KHTML part?
Here is what happened. RIAA looked around and looked for someone who is easy to provoke and also kinda famous, they picked him and trolled him. He has fallen into it.
If it wasn't him, it would be another person.
It was originally Javascript thing which could be fixed just by disabling javascript.
I think the person you replied to has good intentions and can't imagine the issue is that bad and fscking Adobe still wonders around without patching it.
If it was a government created such a security issue for a country, they would resign.
I will take the risk and tell it. Adobe Reader 9 is one of the best performing and low CPU using PDF readers out there and I am writing this from a 1.42 Ghz G4 Mac Mini with 1G RAM installed.
It is real sad that because of the bureaucrats and some idiots at Adobe, one of the most serious multi platform security vulnerabilities happened just when Adobe Reader was heading right direction both in performance and UI wise.
I know what you mean by version 5 and I actually have it installed in a Quad G5 (via Tiger's Classic support). It was just getting fixed in 9 and this junk happened. I bet they will add some junk like UAC of Vista pre SP1 making people even more mad instead of fixing the root of problem.