I've worked with Red Hat distros for over ten years. It's very simple really, hosting companies don't want to deal with half-baked crap. Anything from Red Hat ending in a.0 is half baked crap. Been true in 1998, true now, no exceptions. Give Red Hat another six months or more and they'll have the bugs and kinks worked out of 6, but that steamin' pile is not fit for production now, somewhere around 6.2 or 6.3 will be golden.
the CDC knows full well some vial of this or that they have lying about will cause the first Zombie Apocalypse, and it is they who will come boiling out of their buildings frothing at the mouths for braaaaaaaaaiiiiinz. Don't be mislead! Be part of the truly prepared and ready your scoped crossbows with exploding bolts, drummed semi-auto 12 gauges with BRI sabot slugs, and 42" chainsaws! I saw 28 Days Later and I know what I'm talking about.
if your project timeline and lifespan is so very long, why are your knickers in a knot about whether Centos 6 comes out last month or next month? Since it will likely be out of QA in a week or so, what's the big deal?
false, you can't get any kind of 5.6 by doing any kind of yum update in SL. CentOS 5.x works fine on the major vendor's servers because the vendors supply the drivers. Centos 5 is used by huge enterprises for DBMS, financial systems and ERP, including at some of my clients. If you're whining because RHEL / Centos 5.x doesn't support your usb camera, who gives a shit?
Centos 6 just went to the QA team, you are talking out of your ass.
the major non-commercial distros are still very solid and stable, Debian and Slackware you mentioned first in your list, they're doing just fine...it's those others that are getting wrapped around their own axle.
Less stable than other Unix? The only major ones left are Solaris (costs money, except for OpenSolaris which is now zombified), HP/UX (won't run too well on your x86), and AIX (ditto)
that would be nice, but certain very useful and cool things seem forever out of reach of BSD land. Like vmware workstation and certain multimedia that can only run in "linux-compat" mode with issues, and certain hardware drivers like high-powered graphics. As I prefer *BSD for servers I'd love to kick the increasingly annoying penguin into the dumpster for my desktop, but then wouldn't be able to do my work
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They both craw at about 4 Mbyte/sec to vfat with my 4GB piece of shit sancruizer I was given for free. However using actual spinning disk, TOSHIBA MK6034GSX, Linux smokes windows xp, 250 Mbyte/sec versus 200 Mbytes. Thus we know why you post AC, you talk out your ass
the current status is posted on forum thread, why distract the developers like a three year old in the back seat going 'are we there yet? are we there yet? are we.."
Canonical's Gnome 3 PPA is a mess right now, spontaneously explodes, and when you try to go back to either classic or Unity there will be issues PPA Purge doesn't fix. Better spend your time looking for your next distro in 5 months when you won't have a classic mode. Debian, Mint, Arch, Puppy, Pardus, Mandriva, Fedora, FreeBSD, Gentoo, Sabayon, PCLinuxOS, PC-BSD, MEPIS all will be in better shape than 11.11, try 'em out and pick one.
we have Centos running in our company doing tens of millions of dollars of e-commerce; we'll take good and tested over fast. With myself and a couple other Linux gurus, we don't need Red Hat support.
nope, you don't understand process that Centos and Scientific Linux must do to make the binaries. Not a trivial process and is the reason for time delay, much work. Also, you'll notice that Scientific Linux has yet to put out 5.6 while Centos has, which should get you thinking....
where's your Scientfic Linux 5.6 then??!! Oh, your SL team was too busy going for the ooo-shiny 6 so that wee little thing got left behind for now.....meanwhile Centos has 5.6 and has put 6 to their QA team. Many people need a most rational road map.....
Your reasoning is defective, Red Hat didn't write most of the GPL software in their distribution, by your thinking they "stole" it from the FSF, the apache foundation, etc. And aside from their artwork and a few proprietary binaries, the rest is GPL so can't be "stolen".
Centos is a wonderful project that takes GPL software (most of it *not* from Red Hat), plenty of huge corporations use it as well as small ones. If that bothers you, migrate to Windows or HP/UX or something. They turn around critical security patches in a week.
Just because it takes them a few months to turn around major release is no big deal, people running stable servers are mature enough to wait
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looks like a single sperm cell.
That Cassini probe needs to stop thinking about sexual things all the time....
I've worked with Red Hat distros for over ten years. It's very simple really, hosting companies don't want to deal with half-baked crap. Anything from Red Hat ending in a .0 is half baked crap. Been true in 1998, true now, no exceptions. Give Red Hat another six months or more and they'll have the bugs and kinks worked out of 6, but that steamin' pile is not fit for production now, somewhere around 6.2 or 6.3 will be golden.
Please show me the gap in the security updates where they did this "held up all updates". Helpful link below
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/
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I get their update emails, haven't noticed any hole in the stream in the last year....
I want to use my memory myself, not have it used up by some bloated piece of shit window manager
you should not use sacrilegious, disrespectful words like "christfag", until after this Saturday.
I always thought of Dick Cheney as more the vampire type, lining his pockets and growing power with the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocents.
the CDC knows full well some vial of this or that they have lying about will cause the first Zombie Apocalypse, and it is they who will come boiling out of their buildings frothing at the mouths for braaaaaaaaaiiiiinz. Don't be mislead! Be part of the truly prepared and ready your scoped crossbows with exploding bolts, drummed semi-auto 12 gauges with BRI sabot slugs, and 42" chainsaws! I saw 28 Days Later and I know what I'm talking about.
I'd rather deal with my zombified former neighbors, loved ones and friends and annoying in-laws up close and personal. A katana never needs reloading.
well, ok, backed up with my six inch colt python in case my arms get tired.
if your project timeline and lifespan is so very long, why are your knickers in a knot about whether Centos 6 comes out last month or next month? Since it will likely be out of QA in a week or so, what's the big deal?
false, you can't get any kind of 5.6 by doing any kind of yum update in SL. CentOS 5.x works fine on the major vendor's servers because the vendors supply the drivers. Centos 5 is used by huge enterprises for DBMS, financial systems and ERP, including at some of my clients. If you're whining because RHEL / Centos 5.x doesn't support your usb camera, who gives a shit?
Centos 6 just went to the QA team, you are talking out of your ass.
the major non-commercial distros are still very solid and stable, Debian and Slackware you mentioned first in your list, they're doing just fine...it's those others that are getting wrapped around their own axle.
Less stable than other Unix? The only major ones left are Solaris (costs money, except for OpenSolaris which is now zombified), HP/UX (won't run too well on your x86), and AIX (ditto)
that would be nice, but certain very useful and cool things seem forever out of reach of BSD land. Like vmware workstation and certain multimedia that can only run in "linux-compat" mode with issues, and certain hardware drivers like high-powered graphics. As I prefer *BSD for servers I'd love to kick the increasingly annoying penguin into the dumpster for my desktop, but then wouldn't be able to do my work
They both craw at about 4 Mbyte/sec to vfat with my 4GB piece of shit sancruizer I was given for free. However using actual spinning disk, TOSHIBA MK6034GSX, Linux smokes windows xp, 250 Mbyte/sec versus 200 Mbytes. Thus we know why you post AC, you talk out your ass
the current status is posted on forum thread, why distract the developers like a three year old in the back seat going 'are we there yet? are we there yet? are we.."
Redhat made RHEL 5.6, SL hasn't yet. it, That is a problem for some 5.x shops.
Canonical's Gnome 3 PPA is a mess right now, spontaneously explodes, and when you try to go back to either classic or Unity there will be issues PPA Purge doesn't fix. Better spend your time looking for your next distro in 5 months when you won't have a classic mode. Debian, Mint, Arch, Puppy, Pardus, Mandriva, Fedora, FreeBSD, Gentoo, Sabayon, PCLinuxOS, PC-BSD, MEPIS all will be in better shape than 11.11, try 'em out and pick one.
you miss the point, there is no SL 5.6 release. If you can fart around with "alpha" and "beta" that's another matter.....
Funny was called other things then, was called Oak in 1991 and was intended for interactive television. Then renamed to Green.
we have Centos running in our company doing tens of millions of dollars of e-commerce; we'll take good and tested over fast. With myself and a couple other Linux gurus, we don't need Red Hat support.
eh, RedHaT supports the Perl they ship, and charge money for doing so. meaning they make their own patches (can be good or it can be bad)
nope, you don't understand process that Centos and Scientific Linux must do to make the binaries. Not a trivial process and is the reason for time delay, much work. Also, you'll notice that Scientific Linux has yet to put out 5.6 while Centos has, which should get you thinking....
where's your Scientfic Linux 5.6 then??!! Oh, your SL team was too busy going for the ooo-shiny 6 so that wee little thing got left behind for now.....meanwhile Centos has 5.6 and has put 6 to their QA team. Many people need a most rational road map.....
Your reasoning is defective, Red Hat didn't write most of the GPL software in their distribution, by your thinking they "stole" it from the FSF, the apache foundation, etc. And aside from their artwork and a few proprietary binaries, the rest is GPL so can't be "stolen".
Centos is a wonderful project that takes GPL software (most of it *not* from Red Hat), plenty of huge corporations use it as well as small ones. If that bothers you, migrate to Windows or HP/UX or something. They turn around critical security patches in a week.
Just because it takes them a few months to turn around major release is no big deal, people running stable servers are mature enough to wait
that guy must be the one who sends me recruiting emails looking for 20 years java/j2ee experience
it would be more like a "rupture"