Westinghouse would sell a boiling water reactor (BWR)? with a Mark I containment system? A generation I or II reactor requiring active cooling? Utter Bullshit.
What they would sell is a Generation III+ like the AP1000, decades of experience ahead of this obsolete GE BWR crap.
I'm properly logged in this time, so not AC for 2nd round of no-bullshit.
note readings 30km (12 miles) away are now 17 millirem / hour (0.17 mS per hour), that kind of dose over a week is over 3 REM! Even for adults every REM of dose increases number of deaths by cancer 0.04% over normal, to say nothing of many times that for non-fatal cancers. Two weeks at that level and radation poisoning starts. For children under 8, divide the time to stated risk by factor of five (ie, don't be there). For babies and fetuses, by more than ten (don't be there!!)
No, but there is more than one system for rendering Ukrainian into English, Chornobyl is one common alternative. The starting letter that looks like a backwards four or funny Y to Roman alphabet user is often transliterated as Tj
Your views are nonsense, there is far more contamination in any one of those pools than was released in Chernobyl. That's the nuke industry's dirty little secret, an uncontrolled spent fuel pool fire would release three or more times the contamination of a Chernobyl. Well known and warned about for DECADES. Meltdown with containment breach is even less dangerous.
absolutely false, an uncontrolled fuel pool fire would release many times the contamination of a Chernobyl. Chernobyl ejected 40% of its 180 tons of fuel, a spent fuel pool has hundreds of tons of contaminated fuel.
One of the scenarios for Chernobyl-scale disaster at any nuke plant that needs to eject spent fuel, that does not involve reactor at all, is that earthquake or attack cracks the spent fuel pool sufficiently that replenishment isn't possible. Been well known and warned about for decades in the industry, but mostly ignored in that backup circulation and cooling systems don't exist at many plants for the pools.
That particular horse has already been proven to be lying low-balling ass to protect shareholder value. Also to have covered up many nuclear plant accidents in the past, quite infamous in Japan for that.
NHK world news is some better.
However, in the case of this particular issue, the pool may not be dry (would have expected metal cladding fire by now if it were), it's the word of helicopter pilot who saw water vs. workers who said boiling and near bottom two days ago. NHK says US will fly unmanned drones to ascertain true coolant level
No thanks, mag 9 earthquakes can damage cooling and power systems. Losing coolant on a reactor running full power is what the Chernobyl operators did (in their case just by virtual of the void at the ends of their control rods that pushed them over the edge), rumor is things didn't go so well for them after that.
Have you seen the pictures of the buildings and debris around them? Ever been in a nuke plant? Your unmanned vehicle is going to climb stairs or industrial ladders to put these hoses and pumps and support equipment in? The famous japanese robots clean houses and clear dishes from tables for old people.
Go to this web page, and look in the title of your browser window of the word enclosed in double quotes. Then report back who is the ignoramus who can't spell properly the name of the city.
http://chornobylmuseum.kiev.ua/index.php?lang=uk
Hundreds of square miles of dead sea critters are of no import next to a situation that were it to go out of control could kill thousands of humans. A PETA type mentality is a symptom of wealthy society disconnected from world's reality.
Japanese dispute claim of no water in #4, claim helicopter crew was able to see water but the level isn't known. Last night saw on HNK news the U.S. will fly unmanned drones to verify water level, as getting close to pools involves very high exposure.
no, the metal can ignite. Water can have its hydrogen separated at those temperatures, which can explode or catch fire (which have exploded and have caught fire a few times during this disaster)
There is not enough contamination to have "On The Beach", but rather this is mostly dangerous to those within tens of miles if fuel pool fire or meltdown not contained, and later to those within hundreds of miles in the years after. If these cooling efforts are successful, then confined largely to site.
correct, uranium oxide can't burn. The metal cladding around the fuel can get hot enough to burn, and a metal fire accelerates release of contamination. It can accelerate melting of the fuel too.
No worries, in the cable map of Japan there are all manner of redundant paths out of the country.
Really, compared to the misery of hundreds of thousands in the NE, the IT situation is of no import.
not a concern, the cooling towers make environmentalists happy because less heat gets dumped into rivers and streams. If a plant lost those, the reactor would just trip offline and lose the 6% of running heat via the local water.
The real Achilles heel is not mentioned because everyone's mind is programmed by Hollywood movies to think that meltdown is the worst thing. It is not, and the real Achilles heel of a typical nuke plant is the spent fuel pool. In our plants which have been running for decades it contains far more contamination than Chernobyl's 40% of 180 tons of ejected fuel, usually three or more times as much. An uncontrolled spent fuel pool fire, from damage beyond ability to replenish or high radiation making manual replenishment impossible, would release more contamination than a meltdown with failed containment, make Chernobyl look like training drill.
That's why all the smooth-talking "experts" saying this Fukushima plant disaster can't be another Chernobyl are full of shit. As long as possibility of uncontrolled spent fuel pool fire (because rad levels to high for workers to replenish the boiling water) exists, a possibility of event that exceeds Chernobyl by factor of two or three or more exists. There are 1800 tons of fuel in six pools at Fukushima, do the math and compare with 72 tons of Chernobyl ejection.
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SiCortex made MIPS based supercomputers, Tandem's NONStop were MIPS based Unix mainframes (competed head to head with IBM's mainframes).
other MIPS computer makers included NEC, Pyramid Technology, and Siemens Nixdorf.
Colossus the movie was awesome, loved the sealed mainframes and the analog-looking tech prop as the Voice of Colossus. But Fall of Colossus never was made into movie, maybe you read the book and vividly imagined it? Racks of burned out electronics, yup, the old standard sci-fi "confuse the computer till it ass-plodes!". Because that's what they do, even a flip flop that can't make up its mind will blow louder than a cherry bomb.....
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Westinghouse would sell a boiling water reactor (BWR)? with a Mark I containment system? A generation I or II reactor requiring active cooling? Utter Bullshit. What they would sell is a Generation III+ like the AP1000, decades of experience ahead of this obsolete GE BWR crap.
I'm properly logged in this time, so not AC for 2nd round of no-bullshit. note readings 30km (12 miles) away are now 17 millirem / hour (0.17 mS per hour), that kind of dose over a week is over 3 REM! Even for adults every REM of dose increases number of deaths by cancer 0.04% over normal, to say nothing of many times that for non-fatal cancers. Two weeks at that level and radation poisoning starts. For children under 8, divide the time to stated risk by factor of five (ie, don't be there). For babies and fetuses, by more than ten (don't be there!!)
No, but there is more than one system for rendering Ukrainian into English, Chornobyl is one common alternative. The starting letter that looks like a backwards four or funny Y to Roman alphabet user is often transliterated as Tj
Your views are nonsense, there is far more contamination in any one of those pools than was released in Chernobyl. That's the nuke industry's dirty little secret, an uncontrolled spent fuel pool fire would release three or more times the contamination of a Chernobyl. Well known and warned about for DECADES. Meltdown with containment breach is even less dangerous.
absolutely false, an uncontrolled fuel pool fire would release many times the contamination of a Chernobyl. Chernobyl ejected 40% of its 180 tons of fuel, a spent fuel pool has hundreds of tons of contaminated fuel.
One of the scenarios for Chernobyl-scale disaster at any nuke plant that needs to eject spent fuel, that does not involve reactor at all, is that earthquake or attack cracks the spent fuel pool sufficiently that replenishment isn't possible. Been well known and warned about for decades in the industry, but mostly ignored in that backup circulation and cooling systems don't exist at many plants for the pools.
That particular horse has already been proven to be lying low-balling ass to protect shareholder value. Also to have covered up many nuclear plant accidents in the past, quite infamous in Japan for that.
NHK world news is some better.
However, in the case of this particular issue, the pool may not be dry (would have expected metal cladding fire by now if it were), it's the word of helicopter pilot who saw water vs. workers who said boiling and near bottom two days ago. NHK says US will fly unmanned drones to ascertain true coolant level
No thanks, mag 9 earthquakes can damage cooling and power systems. Losing coolant on a reactor running full power is what the Chernobyl operators did (in their case just by virtual of the void at the ends of their control rods that pushed them over the edge), rumor is things didn't go so well for them after that.
Have you seen the pictures of the buildings and debris around them? Ever been in a nuke plant? Your unmanned vehicle is going to climb stairs or industrial ladders to put these hoses and pumps and support equipment in? The famous japanese robots clean houses and clear dishes from tables for old people.
Go to this web page, and look in the title of your browser window of the word enclosed in double quotes. Then report back who is the ignoramus who can't spell properly the name of the city. http://chornobylmuseum.kiev.ua/index.php?lang=uk
Hundreds of square miles of dead sea critters are of no import next to a situation that were it to go out of control could kill thousands of humans. A PETA type mentality is a symptom of wealthy society disconnected from world's reality.
Japanese dispute claim of no water in #4, claim helicopter crew was able to see water but the level isn't known. Last night saw on HNK news the U.S. will fly unmanned drones to verify water level, as getting close to pools involves very high exposure.
no, the metal can ignite. Water can have its hydrogen separated at those temperatures, which can explode or catch fire (which have exploded and have caught fire a few times during this disaster) There is not enough contamination to have "On The Beach", but rather this is mostly dangerous to those within tens of miles if fuel pool fire or meltdown not contained, and later to those within hundreds of miles in the years after. If these cooling efforts are successful, then confined largely to site.
correct, uranium oxide can't burn. The metal cladding around the fuel can get hot enough to burn, and a metal fire accelerates release of contamination. It can accelerate melting of the fuel too.
he only talked AT them when he needed a favor, some friend
No worries, in the cable map of Japan there are all manner of redundant paths out of the country. Really, compared to the misery of hundreds of thousands in the NE, the IT situation is of no import.
or they find out bacteria find the containers tasty and that raises leaking issues at the best and food poisoning fatalities at the worst.
I agree with you but only two of his twelve Japan Tsunami jokes were funny
Why Gilbert Godfrey, you little asshole, lost your cushy two-syllable Aflac job but still at it?
not a concern, the cooling towers make environmentalists happy because less heat gets dumped into rivers and streams. If a plant lost those, the reactor would just trip offline and lose the 6% of running heat via the local water. The real Achilles heel is not mentioned because everyone's mind is programmed by Hollywood movies to think that meltdown is the worst thing. It is not, and the real Achilles heel of a typical nuke plant is the spent fuel pool. In our plants which have been running for decades it contains far more contamination than Chernobyl's 40% of 180 tons of ejected fuel, usually three or more times as much. An uncontrolled spent fuel pool fire, from damage beyond ability to replenish or high radiation making manual replenishment impossible, would release more contamination than a meltdown with failed containment, make Chernobyl look like training drill. That's why all the smooth-talking "experts" saying this Fukushima plant disaster can't be another Chernobyl are full of shit. As long as possibility of uncontrolled spent fuel pool fire (because rad levels to high for workers to replenish the boiling water) exists, a possibility of event that exceeds Chernobyl by factor of two or three or more exists. There are 1800 tons of fuel in six pools at Fukushima, do the math and compare with 72 tons of Chernobyl ejection.
you're on the wrong forum, this is slashdot.
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SiCortex made MIPS based supercomputers, Tandem's NONStop were MIPS based Unix mainframes (competed head to head with IBM's mainframes). other MIPS computer makers included NEC, Pyramid Technology, and Siemens Nixdorf.
My apologies for two bad typos, though I typed both in correctly in tags, also wrote Godsen for article text not Godson.
Colossus the movie was awesome, loved the sealed mainframes and the analog-looking tech prop as the Voice of Colossus. But Fall of Colossus never was made into movie, maybe you read the book and vividly imagined it? Racks of burned out electronics, yup, the old standard sci-fi "confuse the computer till it ass-plodes!". Because that's what they do, even a flip flop that can't make up its mind will blow louder than a cherry bomb.....
actually, I was using a CRT in 2001. Spacecraft and aircraft had CRT in 2001. Dead on.