such footage already released. people need to know if pool fuel is overheating or melting, withholding that information (if true) is just concealing real danger that will harm them, if if the fuel is ok then it is cause for reassurance.
Or to put another way, the people of Japan don't need some ignorant power-grubbing government choad to decide what they need to see and what they don't. Such a person should be removed from government, and any government that overall has such a policy should be removed.
suppose the IR videos shows the rods in pool deformed from melting, with pool of molten slag at the bottom.
Your reasoning is laughable. No terrorist group on the planet has the means to "swipe" even one rod, one ton of inadequately cooled fuel fuel from Fukushima. They would get lethal dose just lifting the thing out of water (via magic folding crane they have in their back pocket? via rented Sky Crane the Japanese military and U.S. fleets would ignore?) If less than five feet of water covering the fuel (less than 25 feet of water in pool), they'd get lethal dose just standing by the pool for a few minutes, tens of Sieverts or more per hour dose.
Think of all the misery in the world caused by, or covered up by, lies and misinformation. Wars, human experimentation with unknowing participants, industry coverups of toxic spills and cancer studies, etc. Any government that has information on health dangers to conceal is evil.
There is no shortage of energy sources, we only have cartels with an agenda to keep us on certain types of energy sources.
Solar energy can be stored at night and during cloudy days, plenty of non-farmed scrub-land that could grow switchgrass or hemp sufficient for the world's vehicles, etc.
The earth is bathed in more energy than the civilizations of a thousand earths could use.
Ingestible isotopes have a far lower threshold of causing problems, you've made a chart of "shine", external source dose.
Make a chart of ingested, integrated contamination with increase in death rate by cancer or incidence of cancer for this situation.
Risk of death by cancer goes up 0.04% per REM of long term chronic dose (or 0.04% per 10 milli-Sievert), for example.
Some colored squares to indicate piles of 1 and 10 dead people, about and beyond the norm, is the way to view this situation.
bullshit, copyright has no such threshold. Your brain is just addled misunderstanding the headers in question in the SCO case, which were in public domain. The copyright office grants copyright on entire works, including source code containing header files, make files, etc.
do tell, where in Mexico do you get 150 microS an hour?
And there is a world of difference between normal background and ingestible radioisotopes the body likes to integrate into its structure.
nonsense, this particular design (the GE Mark I containment system and the GE BWR-3 ) is very well known, you can get all the detailed information you want in the classic nuclear engineering texts. High resolution photos have existed for decades.
throwing such a number on this situation is meaningless, this is far more dangerous than three mile island where containment held and the level of radiation released outside the plant grounds was very low. Here spent fuel pools with no containment are in dangerous condition, and breech in containment system at #2 (suppression torus) has occurred. Three Mile Island gave one person 1 milliSievert of dose, this thing has done more to more workers.
They are releasing data that is of very little import while the crux of the matter is being withheld. They are withholding the crucial data such as condition of fuel pool 4 fuel, and in which areas of the plant the high rad readings were taken which would tell volumes about the containment vessel condition such as #2.
And it is nonsense to give such a situation a number and to say "see, it's the same as three mile island", this situation is much more dire as it involves spent fuel pools which have no containment whatsoever.
latest news is that they will vent #3, first trying venting from that interesting suppression torus that GE Mark I containment system has around the bottom of the reactor. That should up the detected levels of iodine 131 a tad (even in Tokyo). If they can't do it that way they will vent right from reactor vessel, into the air. Hopefully the wind isn't going south or Tokyo will have a big jump above background
piping won't break, the Fukushima plant piping was damaged by hydrogen explosion of which the root cause was need for active cooling. You might speculate about a plane or bomb being launched at containment building, but reality is anything short of a tactical nuke isn't going to do much.
Modern designs would have no problems in the present scenario, no active cooling and no ejection of spent fuel into a cooling pool for 10 to 20 years needed. I'm pro-modern nuclear, but this obsolete shit designed in the 1950s has got to go (not the 60s as some imagine, there was more than 10 years delay)
Even when not critical, decay processes in fuel make the reactor give off 6% of full power energy.
You might be interested to know, even after a year one rod (about a ton) gives off 10KW of heat energy. after 10 years, 1 KW of energy. They remove fuel from pond and put in cask storage from 10 to 20 year mark, cask has to be designed to provide robust air cooling or bad things can still happen!
I've worked at a nuke plant. stairs everywhere. reactor and containment vessel is over 100 feet tall, fuel pool is above that in this design. lots and lots of climbing.
There are newer designs that have emergency cooling systems that can run off of residual heat. Shame we're not using those and our advances have 30 year gap because of past hysteria over accident that was properly contained.
I'm a huge fan of generation III+ and IV type systems, there would be no issues in Japan now were they using such (they do have new Gen III at other sites)
But it would be nice if level 20 feet or more of the 40+ foot depth to cover fuel to prevent cladding fire. Actually a crucial piece of information to know if fuel pool fire is imminent or not, as that would be much worse if left uncontrolled than the "meltdown" in reactor everyone is programmed by Hollywood to fear.
Just saw another news article on NHK claiming 7.5 tons per load, or 1800 gallons seawater. Still, to replenish a pool that's down by half or more would take over a hundred trips, let alone with boiling or high evaporation rate near boiling
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Is the Linux ATI driver better on those, maybe they just need to wipe the FreeBSD derived Mac OSX off there and put in GNU/Linux /me ducks and runs...
such footage already released. people need to know if pool fuel is overheating or melting, withholding that information (if true) is just concealing real danger that will harm them, if if the fuel is ok then it is cause for reassurance. Or to put another way, the people of Japan don't need some ignorant power-grubbing government choad to decide what they need to see and what they don't. Such a person should be removed from government, and any government that overall has such a policy should be removed.
suppose the IR videos shows the rods in pool deformed from melting, with pool of molten slag at the bottom.
Your reasoning is laughable. No terrorist group on the planet has the means to "swipe" even one rod, one ton of inadequately cooled fuel fuel from Fukushima. They would get lethal dose just lifting the thing out of water (via magic folding crane they have in their back pocket? via rented Sky Crane the Japanese military and U.S. fleets would ignore?) If less than five feet of water covering the fuel (less than 25 feet of water in pool), they'd get lethal dose just standing by the pool for a few minutes, tens of Sieverts or more per hour dose.
Think of all the misery in the world caused by, or covered up by, lies and misinformation. Wars, human experimentation with unknowing participants, industry coverups of toxic spills and cancer studies, etc. Any government that has information on health dangers to conceal is evil.
There is no shortage of energy sources, we only have cartels with an agenda to keep us on certain types of energy sources.
Solar energy can be stored at night and during cloudy days, plenty of non-farmed scrub-land that could grow switchgrass or hemp sufficient for the world's vehicles, etc.
The earth is bathed in more energy than the civilizations of a thousand earths could use.
Ingestible isotopes have a far lower threshold of causing problems, you've made a chart of "shine", external source dose. Make a chart of ingested, integrated contamination with increase in death rate by cancer or incidence of cancer for this situation. Risk of death by cancer goes up 0.04% per REM of long term chronic dose (or 0.04% per 10 milli-Sievert), for example. Some colored squares to indicate piles of 1 and 10 dead people, about and beyond the norm, is the way to view this situation.
strangely enough, they've changed their minds on venting, according to NHK web site
bullshit, copyright has no such threshold. Your brain is just addled misunderstanding the headers in question in the SCO case, which were in public domain. The copyright office grants copyright on entire works, including source code containing header files, make files, etc.
do tell, where in Mexico do you get 150 microS an hour? And there is a world of difference between normal background and ingestible radioisotopes the body likes to integrate into its structure.
nonsense, this particular design (the GE Mark I containment system and the GE BWR-3 ) is very well known, you can get all the detailed information you want in the classic nuclear engineering texts. High resolution photos have existed for decades.
government withholding information to protect "the order", their grasp on power
throwing such a number on this situation is meaningless, this is far more dangerous than three mile island where containment held and the level of radiation released outside the plant grounds was very low. Here spent fuel pools with no containment are in dangerous condition, and breech in containment system at #2 (suppression torus) has occurred. Three Mile Island gave one person 1 milliSievert of dose, this thing has done more to more workers.
They are releasing data that is of very little import while the crux of the matter is being withheld. They are withholding the crucial data such as condition of fuel pool 4 fuel, and in which areas of the plant the high rad readings were taken which would tell volumes about the containment vessel condition such as #2. And it is nonsense to give such a situation a number and to say "see, it's the same as three mile island", this situation is much more dire as it involves spent fuel pools which have no containment whatsoever.
latest news is that they will vent #3, first trying venting from that interesting suppression torus that GE Mark I containment system has around the bottom of the reactor. That should up the detected levels of iodine 131 a tad (even in Tokyo). If they can't do it that way they will vent right from reactor vessel, into the air. Hopefully the wind isn't going south or Tokyo will have a big jump above background
knocking over that one we were just sending billions of dollars ? Does that mean anything to your patriotism-spewing brain?
that "anywhere for same price" isn't true for packages, they use zones
so much for my "in People's Demokratik Amerika...." joke
piping won't break, the Fukushima plant piping was damaged by hydrogen explosion of which the root cause was need for active cooling. You might speculate about a plane or bomb being launched at containment building, but reality is anything short of a tactical nuke isn't going to do much.
Tj is international transliteration, I've seen Tjernobyl in many of my nuke plant docs, type in google earth and you'll zoom right over there
Modern designs would have no problems in the present scenario, no active cooling and no ejection of spent fuel into a cooling pool for 10 to 20 years needed. I'm pro-modern nuclear, but this obsolete shit designed in the 1950s has got to go (not the 60s as some imagine, there was more than 10 years delay)
Even when not critical, decay processes in fuel make the reactor give off 6% of full power energy. You might be interested to know, even after a year one rod (about a ton) gives off 10KW of heat energy. after 10 years, 1 KW of energy. They remove fuel from pond and put in cask storage from 10 to 20 year mark, cask has to be designed to provide robust air cooling or bad things can still happen!
I've worked at a nuke plant. stairs everywhere. reactor and containment vessel is over 100 feet tall, fuel pool is above that in this design. lots and lots of climbing.
There are newer designs that have emergency cooling systems that can run off of residual heat. Shame we're not using those and our advances have 30 year gap because of past hysteria over accident that was properly contained. I'm a huge fan of generation III+ and IV type systems, there would be no issues in Japan now were they using such (they do have new Gen III at other sites)
But it would be nice if level 20 feet or more of the 40+ foot depth to cover fuel to prevent cladding fire. Actually a crucial piece of information to know if fuel pool fire is imminent or not, as that would be much worse if left uncontrolled than the "meltdown" in reactor everyone is programmed by Hollywood to fear.
Just saw another news article on NHK claiming 7.5 tons per load, or 1800 gallons seawater. Still, to replenish a pool that's down by half or more would take over a hundred trips, let alone with boiling or high evaporation rate near boiling
Those pools are 40' cubes, half a million gallons of water each. Each helicopter load is 900 gallons. Do math.