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gap is being closed, though.
buying new box with bundled linux with support solves some of the problems. And half of windows problems are malware releated (my company's service unit makes a fortune on those, your livehood I expect is mostly due to most people choosing the one OS on earth that needs so much maintenance). What's left is if user wants new device, has to be one that's Linux supported, that's a big deal. but at least more and more vendors are listing Linux on the box (funny even USB makers for whom it required no extra effort on their part to say Linux and MacOSX support for their generic driver capable device)
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plenty of computers made five years ago that Windows 7 can't run on, will never run on. Is Microsoft spending tens of millions to make windows 7 work on those? nope. would latest Ubuntu run on 99.9999% of those? yup. So Ubuntu shouldn't spend tens of millions of dollars to make sure Ubuntu supports each and every piece of hardware made in the last x years. waste of resources and time and won't help adoption.
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there are some Windows graphics drivers that require registry editing. doesn't change the way windows is for almost everyone; your little easily fixed and trivial Ubuntu video issue doesn't change the experience of the majority either. There was a time when I had to put one line into modules.conf to get volume thumbwheel on the front of my Toshiba laptop to work too, proves nothing much about the ability of most people to install the distro I was using without using command line.
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funny, I buy (used, three year+ old) hardware that Ubuntu supports. very easy to do these days. Changing resolution is GUI drop-down menu. you must be a real dumb-ass, and a whiner too. glad you're not on any forum read, you're helpless and un-helpable.
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for where I lived, worked and went to college, "everyone" had an IBM PC by 1984. Small business had 'em, homes had them, richer students had them and poorer people like me used their dorm roomate's system or the school's.
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It's necessary for Unix, Amiga Unix (AMIX) required 68030 for MMU features.
Running Linux or NetBSD on Amiga requires 68851 which could be had with several accelerator cards like 68020 + 68851
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not only is it not Unix as other post said, but was written in 1987 - by that year there were 80386 that *could* run full Unix.
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Several places I worked treated people's time as infinite resource, could use any number of hours, but they wouldn't spend a dime on equipment such as second hard drive.
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Sorry, but Unix really does require a multi-tasking capability and memory management. You can dream about some assembly-language GUI (or no GUI Unixy thing) alternative to have run on the first PC, but it would not have been Unix.
Unix *was* (barely) possible on the IBM AT, and indeed there were a couple (using kludgy trick for multitasking); I ran a Unix-like thing called Coherent
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nah, she popped in the AOL CD. Oooo, so software and not the so-called OS or need/no need for command line is what makes or breaks the deal? how about them apples! there's a moral for the GNU/Linux and the *BSD crowd (and yes I'm part of both).
nah, I consider the big bang, world, global economy, my job and other people as a given, the "scratch".
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yup, and for $50 on eBay you can get Dell Optiplex desktop that includes windows and a 30 day warranty from mom & pop shop. the monitor will probably cost $60 to $80.
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point is command line not the issue.
anyway, can install and use plenty of Linux distros without the command line for normal household use. red herring.
indeed, better first step would be to buy a $50 used computer system including monitor on eBay from mom & pop shop that gives a month warranty. Just list what's needed for a "good enough" box as far as processor, memory, disk, cd-rom drive, have a keyboard and mouse included, etc.
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that's funny because back when Microsoft software became ubiquitous on PC, there was "command line" required.
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Unix wouldn't run on the original IBM PC, nor with any other cheap processor they might have instead of the Intel one.
So given the IBM PC could only run lame program loaders in lieu of an actual operating system, we got what we got.
that's amusing, writing the guy who with Congress passed two major pieces of legislation the majority of the public didn't even want, to benefit the mega-corporations who sponge off this country.
face it, the government "by the people for the people" line is total bullshit
--- (those two pieces being bailouts, and healthcare without robust public option so spiral feedback loop of care costs and insurance can continue)
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on the other hand, a 1 MW maser or laser pointed at our system.....
The Perl 6 Design Team had a 6 in the middle, since 2000, and on and on it goes................
http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40296
the important thing is to keep them straight so the electricity doesn't skid around curves
yes, in about two more years. hang in there.
and on that day I'll be getting by really cheap, as I only need about 20GB for a laptop
I always use gold plugged audiophile cables from my power supplies, they supply robust pure energy for perfect rendering of 64 bit flash multimedia
I'm older than Unix, young un'
The start of "modern" Unix was mostly done on PDP-11/45, introduced 1972, which DID have memory management
so the kids access porn and games via server or proxy in some other country. problem solved.
Blind man walks into department store, reaches down and grabs his Labrador retriever by the hind legs and starts swinging it in a wide circle over his head.
Clerk: "what are you doing??!!"
Blind Man: "Don't mind me, I'm just looking around"
gap is being closed, though.
buying new box with bundled linux with support solves some of the problems. And half of windows problems are malware releated (my company's service unit makes a fortune on those, your livehood I expect is mostly due to most people choosing the one OS on earth that needs so much maintenance). What's left is if user wants new device, has to be one that's Linux supported, that's a big deal. but at least more and more vendors are listing Linux on the box (funny even USB makers for whom it required no extra effort on their part to say Linux and MacOSX support for their generic driver capable device)
plenty of computers made five years ago that Windows 7 can't run on, will never run on. Is Microsoft spending tens of millions to make windows 7 work on those? nope. would latest Ubuntu run on 99.9999% of those? yup. So Ubuntu shouldn't spend tens of millions of dollars to make sure Ubuntu supports each and every piece of hardware made in the last x years. waste of resources and time and won't help adoption.
there are some Windows graphics drivers that require registry editing. doesn't change the way windows is for almost everyone; your little easily fixed and trivial Ubuntu video issue doesn't change the experience of the majority either. There was a time when I had to put one line into modules.conf to get volume thumbwheel on the front of my Toshiba laptop to work too, proves nothing much about the ability of most people to install the distro I was using without using command line.
funny, I buy (used, three year+ old) hardware that Ubuntu supports. very easy to do these days. Changing resolution is GUI drop-down menu. you must be a real dumb-ass, and a whiner too. glad you're not on any forum read, you're helpless and un-helpable.
for where I lived, worked and went to college, "everyone" had an IBM PC by 1984. Small business had 'em, homes had them, richer students had them and poorer people like me used their dorm roomate's system or the school's.
It's necessary for Unix, Amiga Unix (AMIX) required 68030 for MMU features.
Running Linux or NetBSD on Amiga requires 68851 which could be had with several accelerator cards like 68020 + 68851
not only is it not Unix as other post said, but was written in 1987 - by that year there were 80386 that *could* run full Unix.
Several places I worked treated people's time as infinite resource, could use any number of hours, but they wouldn't spend a dime on equipment such as second hard drive.
Sorry, but Unix really does require a multi-tasking capability and memory management. You can dream about some assembly-language GUI (or no GUI Unixy thing) alternative to have run on the first PC, but it would not have been Unix.
Unix *was* (barely) possible on the IBM AT, and indeed there were a couple (using kludgy trick for multitasking); I ran a Unix-like thing called Coherent
nah, she popped in the AOL CD. Oooo, so software and not the so-called OS or need/no need for command line is what makes or breaks the deal? how about them apples! there's a moral for the GNU/Linux and the *BSD crowd (and yes I'm part of both).
nah, I consider the big bang, world, global economy, my job and other people as a given, the "scratch".
yup, and for $50 on eBay you can get Dell Optiplex desktop that includes windows and a 30 day warranty from mom & pop shop. the monitor will probably cost $60 to $80.
point is command line not the issue.
anyway, can install and use plenty of Linux distros without the command line for normal household use. red herring.
indeed, better first step would be to buy a $50 used computer system including monitor on eBay from mom & pop shop that gives a month warranty. Just list what's needed for a "good enough" box as far as processor, memory, disk, cd-rom drive, have a keyboard and mouse included, etc.
that's funny because back when Microsoft software became ubiquitous on PC, there was "command line" required.
Unix wouldn't run on the original IBM PC, nor with any other cheap processor they might have instead of the Intel one.
So given the IBM PC could only run lame program loaders in lieu of an actual operating system, we got what we got.
that's amusing, writing the guy who with Congress passed two major pieces of legislation the majority of the public didn't even want, to benefit the mega-corporations who sponge off this country.
face it, the government "by the people for the people" line is total bullshit
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(those two pieces being bailouts, and healthcare without robust public option so spiral feedback loop of care costs and insurance can continue)