Seriously. Traffic accidents are the leading cause of death.
Even with traffic accidents included there are a dozen jobs with higher fatality rates and some of them are pretty grisly (like being ripped to pieces while still alive by heavy machinary).
If you take out the traffic accidents, there are easily a couple dozen jobs with higher fatality rates.
And, being an old fart, I've seen good men turn bad because they were cops. They laugh at abusing their power over civilians. They use prostitutes- and/or arrest them. They break the law. They lie under oath.
Many of them are good people. But a lot of people who just want power over others are attracted to the job. And a lot of others are corrupted by that power over time.
And hell, i"m making it generic, but as far as I can see, the men are corrupted much faster than the women.
It doesn't matter if Rodney was a lowlife. The cops are the law. They are supposed to follow the law. When the cops disrespect the law, it devalues the rule of law.
I was a libertarian.. I'm just telling you what is required for a libertarian society to make it more than about 2 weeks before collapsing into a corporate oligarchy.
Oh please. If Romney were elected it wouldn't be the end of the republic (tho he'd return to the rapid deficit spending increases we saw under bush and reagan based on his policies).
When Obama is elected, it won't be the end of the republic either. Don't overreact.
With opposite parties, spending will be held down.
Obama has taken us from losing 800,000 jobs per month under Bush to creating about 150k jobs per month.
And it doesn't matter who is president, the economy is going ot get much better (CBO and BLS project over 3% in 2015 and 2016) plus retiring/dying boomers are going to tighten up the job market tremendously (just retiring boomers alone are enough to lower us from 8% to 6%). BLS projects 10.6% more jobs but only 6.8% larger labor force by 2016.
--- And the parent poster isn't a troll. He's just a republican who's overreacting a bit.
Google for "Obama's list of achievements" and you'll be surprised. I know I was.
I'm starting to think that Obama is ropa doping and not really crowing about accomplisments while actually getting a lot done despite opposition from the party of "no".
Even this late in the game I was suprised to here that he put back in "paygo" in 2010.
I felt like obama was ineffective and spineless but apparently he's just wily instead of "testosterone he man" like bush/cheney were.
Yes, solar makes a lot more sense at those prices.
However $0.10 is on the high side for the U.S.
You can get it for.09 in my state if you sign for 12 months instead of "locking in" a low rate for 36 months like i did.
In many other states, you can get it under.09 if there is a dam anywhere near you.
At $.25/kwh, $2.50 to $3.00 per day per panel average your payout period would be about a year.
FWIW, I get a much better return by replacing lightbulbs with LED and CFL bulbs. CFL still suck so I prefer LED. Even at $20, an LED bulb pays for itself very quickly (under a year) at 6 hours per day. CFL's pay for themselves in about 4 months (compared to a similar incandescent). Key for me: Getting 3000 kelvin bulbs.
okay... so your panels are producing 1.6kwh vs my panel's 1kwh.
So that's 16 cents a day instead of 10 cents per day. Or about $4.80 per panel per month instead of my $3.00 per panel. So $60 per year instead of $36 per year.
You say your payoff is 9 years...
$1280/60 = 21.3 years. using a little algebra $X/60 = 9.0 years or $540/60 = 7.0 years. Wow, if you seriously got your 1.6khw panels, installation, and inverter for $540 per panel that's a phenomenal deal. You can't get close to that for retail installations without a lot of tax payer money helping you out.
And that assumes the money is interest free. If you took a loan out, then it was over $540 which means your payout is further in the future.
Many states have much less expensive electricity than.10kWh.
Indeed, I'm only paying.10/kWh because I wanted to lock the rate in for 3 years. If i was willing to settle for a 12 month lock in, the rate was.09kWh.
If your system is using batteries, you'll need a new set of batteries in about 7 years and a new inverter not long after that... which also extends your payout.
Solar is currently too expensive. It needs to drop to about 25% of the current retail price or get 75% tax grants in order to make sense.
I'd certainly love to see 10% of our defense spending go into solar power at current prices, reducing dependency on foreign oil. And the consistent demand would probably result in lower prices sooner.
I'm no against solar, it just doesn't make financial sense without massive tax subsidies.
Only a strong government can limit and oppose the power of strong corporations.
And you also need to indoctrinate all children in grade-school and religious studies in values supportive of a libertarian society. They would need to literally be terribly ashamed to behave badly. If they don't, laws won't be enough to keep them in check.
Those are the holes in the libertarian philosophy.
I own a solar panel and the kilometer doesn't show your figures.
And solar panels have gone up since I purchased mine.
Here are the challenges 1) It's really hard to get a completely shadefree spot for 12 hours.
2) Unless you have some kind of tracking mounting, you have a steep dropoff (I get under 40 watts til 9am 68 watts before 11am and after 4pm and under 40 watts after 6:30pm til 8:30pm- so about 5 hours of 180watts.) That's during the summer. The total is about 1kwh per day.
4) You can buy power for 10 cents per kilowatt hour. One $1000 panel (with $300 credit from federal government) plus $80 mounting generates about 30kwh per month ($3.00 savings per month).
All this is real world values. Power has only doubled in price since 1980ish. So we are talking 2040 before a full double again.
Okay so current panel I bought for $1080 with mounting appears to be producing about $3 of electricity per month. I'll get a $300 credit on my taxes this year.
It's simple and I just plugged it into an out let and my "kilometer" shows it's producing power.
But $700/$36 = 19 years.
It will probably break before it reaches break even.
However--- if electrical power doubles like it has since the 1980's (5 c/pkwh vs 10cpkwh)
Then it would pay off it about 12 to 15 years.
Solar isn't "there" yet.
And the panel went up from $1080 to $1280 after I purchased it.
It's kind of blocky like the Victory Monument in Bolzano, northern Italy which an example of fascist art style.
And it kind of reminds me of the wells fargo plaza which is an example of the brutalist style except it's made from aluminum instead of concrete. The wiki says that brutalist examples are typically very linear, fortresslike and blockish.
Art deco was full of life, color, cool little design bits while also been clean and elegant.
That monochromatic floating white iron has none of those qualities.
You're right. It's matured in a sort of Lucasian way. You know the way that the last star wars movies made were so mature and superior to the first star wars films made.
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I don't hate jobs or apple. Even owned an iphone 3.
54% of americans own stock but most stock is owned by the top quintile and over 40% of stock wealth is owned by 1% of americans.
We need to remove the unforgivable nature of student loans and get government backing out and that will prompt the market to fix the problem. One reason tuitions are so high is that free money is available.
Wages only work when there is a balance between labor and demand. When there is a glut of labor you get really abusive situations. Fortunately we are exiting that situation and headed towards a shortage of labor. In theory, I agree wages should not be enforced by the government. In practice, it's necessary given the power of corporations.
And the government isn't getting between you and the kid mowing your lawn. At least not in my state. Not unless you pay the kid a lot of money and then they want their cut.
Watch them openly teaching companies how to avoid hiring american workers; how to place false ads; how to call in a manager to disqualify and american who somehow made it through the process.
Yes. Isn't that enough to lower us from 7.6 to under 7% unemployment?
And once unemployment drops enough- won't workers stop working 60 hours a week?
And when that happens 6% unemployment becomes 4% unemployment over night.
Was reading in USA today that 25% of US workers are now burned out from overwork and their primary goal is just to go into the office and not get fired. No innovation or creativity left. We have people dying of heart attacks from overwork. They worked me 70 hours a week for close to a year.
Change is coming. Part of it is the retiring and dying boomers. By 2016, 16 million boomers leave the work force (that's 8 million more workers than left in each of the 4 years from 2001-2004 and 2005-2008.)
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Lol.
You need to look up Stacked Ranking.
The other posters are right. And the supremes said even a pattern of laying off / repeatedly firing only the older employees
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On the story- wow I remember when 45 was the age you got hit by age discrimination in IT.
I'm retiring at 51. Got laid off 4 days before my planned retirement date... with severance.
Oddly, I'm a little upset about it even tho I will end up with more money this way.
Seriously. Traffic accidents are the leading cause of death.
Even with traffic accidents included there are a dozen jobs with higher fatality rates and some of them are pretty grisly (like being ripped to pieces while still alive by heavy machinary).
If you take out the traffic accidents, there are easily a couple dozen jobs with higher fatality rates.
And, being an old fart, I've seen good men turn bad because they were cops. They laugh at abusing their power over civilians. They use prostitutes- and/or arrest them. They break the law. They lie under oath.
Many of them are good people. But a lot of people who just want power over others are attracted to the job. And a lot of others are corrupted by that power over time.
And hell, i"m making it generic, but as far as I can see, the men are corrupted much faster than the women.
You can stop at "no".
The beating is not justified.
It doesn't matter if Rodney was a lowlife. The cops are the law. They are supposed to follow the law. When the cops disrespect the law, it devalues the rule of law.
Judges and juries decide punishment. Not cops.
I think you meant
People who smoke pot in the privacy of their own homes? No Problem.
To me, this crosses the line to enslavement.
It's basically a huge nation sized prison.
yea.. kinda would make me leery of using cisco products.
I was a libertarian.. I'm just telling you what is required for a libertarian society to make it more than about 2 weeks before collapsing into a corporate oligarchy.
Oh please. If Romney were elected it wouldn't be the end of the republic (tho he'd return to the rapid deficit spending increases we saw under bush and reagan based on his policies).
When Obama is elected, it won't be the end of the republic either. Don't overreact.
With opposite parties, spending will be held down.
Obama has taken us from losing 800,000 jobs per month under Bush to creating about 150k jobs per month.
And it doesn't matter who is president, the economy is going ot get much better (CBO and BLS project over 3% in 2015 and 2016) plus retiring/dying boomers are going to tighten up the job market tremendously (just retiring boomers alone are enough to lower us from 8% to 6%). BLS projects 10.6% more jobs but only 6.8% larger labor force by 2016.
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And the parent poster isn't a troll. He's just a republican who's overreacting a bit.
Google for "Obama's list of achievements" and you'll be surprised.
I know I was.
I'm starting to think that Obama is ropa doping and not really crowing about accomplisments while actually getting a lot done despite opposition from the party of "no".
Even this late in the game I was suprised to here that he put back in "paygo" in 2010.
I felt like obama was ineffective and spineless but apparently he's just wily instead of "testosterone he man" like bush/cheney were.
okay, something about the math on this one bothered me .. in my defense i posted it at 4:14am while responding to an "on call" problem.
okay... 27 cents kWh (call it $.30kWh to simplify the math) vs $.10kWh would mean
$9 per month instead of $3 per month. That's $108 per year.
Soooo...
at $700 per panel... $108 per year = 6.5.
Even with really expensive electricity your payoff is six and a half years to payoff the panels.
All this assumes no lightning strikes that damage the panels. I know I get one gnarly strike per 10 years currently.
Yes, solar makes a lot more sense at those prices.
However $0.10 is on the high side for the U.S.
You can get it for .09 in my state if you sign for 12 months instead of "locking in" a low rate for 36 months like i did.
In many other states, you can get it under .09 if there is a dam anywhere near you.
At $.25/kwh, $2.50 to $3.00 per day per panel average your payout period would be about a year.
FWIW, I get a much better return by replacing lightbulbs with LED and CFL bulbs. CFL still suck so I prefer LED. Even at $20, an LED bulb pays for itself very quickly (under a year) at 6 hours per day. CFL's pay for themselves in about 4 months (compared to a similar incandescent). Key for me: Getting 3000 kelvin bulbs.
okay ... so your panels are producing 1.6kwh vs my panel's 1kwh.
So that's 16 cents a day instead of 10 cents per day. Or about $4.80 per panel per month instead of my $3.00 per panel. So $60 per year instead of $36 per year.
You say your payoff is 9 years...
$1280/60 = 21.3 years.
using a little algebra
$X/60 = 9.0 years or $540/60 = 7.0 years. Wow, if you seriously got your 1.6khw panels, installation, and inverter for $540 per panel that's a phenomenal deal. You can't get close to that for retail installations without a lot of tax payer money helping you out.
And that assumes the money is interest free. If you took a loan out, then it was over $540 which means your payout is further in the future.
Many states have much less expensive electricity than .10kWh.
Indeed, I'm only paying .10/kWh because I wanted to lock the rate in for 3 years. If i was willing to settle for a 12 month lock in, the rate was .09kWh.
If your system is using batteries, you'll need a new set of batteries in about 7 years and a new inverter not long after that... which also extends your payout.
Solar is currently too expensive. It needs to drop to about 25% of the current retail price or get 75% tax grants in order to make sense.
I'd certainly love to see 10% of our defense spending go into solar power at current prices, reducing dependency on foreign oil. And the consistent demand would probably result in lower prices sooner.
I'm no against solar, it just doesn't make financial sense without massive tax subsidies.
Only a strong government can limit and oppose the power of strong corporations.
And you also need to indoctrinate all children in grade-school and religious studies in values supportive of a libertarian society. They would need to literally be terribly ashamed to behave badly. If they don't, laws won't be enough to keep them in check.
Those are the holes in the libertarian philosophy.
I own a solar panel and the kilometer doesn't show your figures.
And solar panels have gone up since I purchased mine.
Here are the challenges
1) It's really hard to get a completely shadefree spot for 12 hours.
2) Unless you have some kind of tracking mounting, you have a steep dropoff (I get under 40 watts til 9am 68 watts before 11am and after 4pm and under 40 watts after 6:30pm til 8:30pm- so about 5 hours of 180watts.) That's during the summer. The total is about 1kwh per day.
4) You can buy power for 10 cents per kilowatt hour. One $1000 panel (with $300 credit from federal government) plus $80 mounting generates about 30kwh per month ($3.00 savings per month).
All this is real world values.
Power has only doubled in price since 1980ish. So we are talking 2040 before a full double again.
Okay so current panel I bought for $1080 with mounting appears to be producing about $3 of electricity per month. I'll get a $300 credit on my taxes this year.
It's simple and I just plugged it into an out let and my "kilometer" shows it's producing power.
But $700/$36 = 19 years.
It will probably break before it reaches break even.
However--- if electrical power doubles like it has since the 1980's (5 c/pkwh vs 10cpkwh)
Then it would pay off it about 12 to 15 years.
Solar isn't "there" yet.
And the panel went up from $1080 to $1280 after I purchased it.
A few years- maybe even a couple decades of reduced flu.
Then new versions of the flu which change these sections hit with a vengence.
Hopefully we can rapidly prototype and produce vaccines by then.
I'm a huge fan of art deco.
That boat is not art deco.
It's kind of blocky like the Victory Monument in Bolzano, northern Italy which an example of fascist art style.
And it kind of reminds me of the wells fargo plaza which is an example of the brutalist style except it's made from aluminum instead of concrete. The wiki says that brutalist examples are typically very linear, fortresslike and blockish.
Art deco was full of life, color, cool little design bits while also been clean and elegant.
That monochromatic floating white iron has none of those qualities.
You're right. It's matured in a sort of Lucasian way. You know the way that the last star wars movies made were so mature and superior to the first star wars films made.
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I don't hate jobs or apple. Even owned an iphone 3.
That boat is ugly.
Agreed. It's so ugly and stark. The only part i like about it is the back.
54% of americans own stock but most stock is owned by the top quintile and over 40% of stock wealth is owned by 1% of americans.
We need to remove the unforgivable nature of student loans and get government backing out and that will prompt the market to fix the problem. One reason tuitions are so high is that free money is available.
Wages only work when there is a balance between labor and demand. When there is a glut of labor you get really abusive situations. Fortunately we are exiting that situation and headed towards a shortage of labor. In theory, I agree wages should not be enforced by the government. In practice, it's necessary given the power of corporations.
And the government isn't getting between you and the kid mowing your lawn. At least not in my state. Not unless you pay the kid a lot of money and then they want their cut.
I noticed name brand heavy cream varies from $2 to $4 as the lowest price at two different chains.
Thanks for the $10 generic tip.
Also, you can buy hearing aids with 2002 technology on hunting sites.
Part of the reason that official "hearing aids" are expensive is that they are a medical device.
The same exact device not classified as a medical device is 1/10th the price.
you can buy hearing aids with 10 year old technology on hunting sites for under $100.
Let them eat Cake, eh?
There's no way that millions of american's won't turn to violence like every other country on earth once the wealthy push hard enough.
It's no good for anyone if the rich are allowed to lose sight of reality in their overwhelming greed.
You have that backwards.
H1-B's were intended to prevent wage escalation due to skill shortages.
Go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
Watch them openly teaching companies how to avoid hiring american workers; how to place false ads; how to call in a manager to disqualify and american who somehow made it through the process.
Yes. Isn't that enough to lower us from 7.6 to under 7% unemployment?
And once unemployment drops enough- won't workers stop working 60 hours a week?
And when that happens 6% unemployment becomes 4% unemployment over night.
Was reading in USA today that 25% of US workers are now burned out from overwork and their primary goal is just to go into the office and not get fired. No innovation or creativity left. We have people dying of heart attacks from overwork. They worked me 70 hours a week for close to a year.
Change is coming. Part of it is the retiring and dying boomers. By 2016, 16 million boomers leave the work force (that's 8 million more workers than left in each of the 4 years from 2001-2004 and 2005-2008.)