We are running XP in this office, and as far as I know, will be doing so for at least a few more years. =/
And I sincerely hope they skip Vista and go right to Win7.
Does bring one question to my mind, though. In our office we have been told not to upgrade to IE7, though a few people "accidentally" did anyway. On their machines, even if they use Firefox, the security/Internet settings that IE7 made carry over to Firefox and affect it. One example is a certain java applet we have to access here that wouldn't even work in FF after my coworker upgraded. I had to go in and change settings in IE for it to work in either browser. I didn't upgrade and I'll admit my knowledge is a bit fuzzy in this area, so I haven't really looked into this too much, but... If a vulnerability can use IE to get into the OS, couldn't it do so even if you haven't opened IE yourself?
However, learning and experiencing them in a game in which there is at least a slight degree of immersion is far better than just hearing something you consider a "generic axiom". The former is more likely to click-and-stick in the mind, and the concepts are far more likely to surface later on when you need them in IRL situations.
It's not like brownouts are a huge problem, though. Maybe in places like NYC, but the vast majority of the country? I've *never* experienced a brownout, and no, I don't live out in the sticks. If, as the parent said, they were working to build more infrastructure now, and charging more for the light bulbs if that's how they wanted to do it... that'd be the "free country" way to handle it. Provide consumers with more choices, but do not force things on them and take away their other options. You're blind if you can't see that government regulation is getting ridiculous.
Not just more pleasing, but more healthy too... My eyes get tired a lot more easily under fluorescents, just as an example. A lot of people get migraines, etc. I'm not saying fluorescents aren't good for some uses, but taking away all other choices is not right either.
That was kind of what my response was going to be:
So all this proves is that math nerds are more likely to want to get their rocks off to underage girls?
We already knew they weren't getting any... right?;)
(Please don't actually take this seriously, I love nerdy guys.)
I agree, and also want to cautiously (given the audience here) posit the thought that spending that much money on something like that, at this point in the economic downswing, is just kinda wrong.
Did you really RTFA? Yes, he's performing literary fellatio on the engineers of Bugatti, but he mentions the specs and lots of information (at least, as much as is usually provided about a car) about halfway down the page. I agree that Wired used to be a bit more interesting, but this isn't really that bad.
Because you buy it for $80 and sell it back for $5? It may as well be a rental, without all the hassle of trying to sell it back.
Of course, in my dorm we'd just resell the books to other folks who were going to need them next semester. Buy for $80 new and resell to them for, say, $40. They get a good deal, and so did we.
Fair enough. I just hate when people refuse to acknowledge the possibility of something just because they don't personally experience or understand it. It happens a lot with us nerdy folks and our superior intellects;)
Masturbation is possible without porn, though.
(I'm not defending the Ukranians here, I think it's silly to outlaw it, I'm just playing devil's advocate for a moment. Also, while I do make a valid point, you can take it with a grain of salt since I'm female and can't quite understand how the male mind reacts so differently than mine to visual stimuli.)
And as for my friend, he leaves the phone off most of the time, unless he needs to make a call or knows someone is trying to contact him on it. He uses the landline at home and just has the cell for emergencies when he is out. This is a regular guy, he's not into religion, or conspiracy theories, or anything wacky. I highly doubt he'd believe in this if he weren't experiencing it firsthand.
But hey, I don't seem to suffer any ill effects. I don't think most folks do, so I'm at least willing to admit I might be wrong. I'm not attacking either side. Why can't you do the same?
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Good call. Thanks for the input.
This is modded "funny"... it should probably be "insightful" or "informative".
Pity there's no +1 Amen, Brotha.
Oh, and sorry--thanks for the non-troll response :)
We are running XP in this office, and as far as I know, will be doing so for at least a few more years. =/
And I sincerely hope they skip Vista and go right to Win7.
Does bring one question to my mind, though. In our office we have been told not to upgrade to IE7, though a few people "accidentally" did anyway. On their machines, even if they use Firefox, the security/Internet settings that IE7 made carry over to Firefox and affect it. One example is a certain java applet we have to access here that wouldn't even work in FF after my coworker upgraded. I had to go in and change settings in IE for it to work in either browser. I didn't upgrade and I'll admit my knowledge is a bit fuzzy in this area, so I haven't really looked into this too much, but... If a vulnerability can use IE to get into the OS, couldn't it do so even if you haven't opened IE yourself?
However, learning and experiencing them in a game in which there is at least a slight degree of immersion is far better than just hearing something you consider a "generic axiom". The former is more likely to click-and-stick in the mind, and the concepts are far more likely to surface later on when you need them in IRL situations.
Mostly because I'm glad mine aren't icosohedral, really ;)
2. ANIME ANGEL TATOOS? In an American prison??? I doubt there are any anime nerds in lockup...
Sure there are. What do you think they were illegally downloading, hm?
...but it can't take away your freedom.
Yet.
It's not like brownouts are a huge problem, though. Maybe in places like NYC, but the vast majority of the country? I've *never* experienced a brownout, and no, I don't live out in the sticks. If, as the parent said, they were working to build more infrastructure now, and charging more for the light bulbs if that's how they wanted to do it... that'd be the "free country" way to handle it. Provide consumers with more choices, but do not force things on them and take away their other options. You're blind if you can't see that government regulation is getting ridiculous.
Not just more pleasing, but more healthy too... My eyes get tired a lot more easily under fluorescents, just as an example. A lot of people get migraines, etc. I'm not saying fluorescents aren't good for some uses, but taking away all other choices is not right either.
My thoughts exactly. Please mod this guy up; this study is interesting but proves very little, if anything.
That was kind of what my response was going to be: ;)
So all this proves is that math nerds are more likely to want to get their rocks off to underage girls?
We already knew they weren't getting any... right?
(Please don't actually take this seriously, I love nerdy guys.)
Better than my mid-life Burnout...
Bill Gates? Is that you?
I agree, and also want to cautiously (given the audience here) posit the thought that spending that much money on something like that, at this point in the economic downswing, is just kinda wrong.
Just FYI, from what I've seen recently... WD still sucks, but Maxtor has come a long way.
Did you really RTFA? Yes, he's performing literary fellatio on the engineers of Bugatti, but he mentions the specs and lots of information (at least, as much as is usually provided about a car) about halfway down the page.
I agree that Wired used to be a bit more interesting, but this isn't really that bad.
Hmm.. I'm a female petrol-head. Does being breathless with desire count?
Because you buy it for $80 and sell it back for $5? It may as well be a rental, without all the hassle of trying to sell it back.
Of course, in my dorm we'd just resell the books to other folks who were going to need them next semester. Buy for $80 new and resell to them for, say, $40. They get a good deal, and so did we.
Fair enough. I just hate when people refuse to acknowledge the possibility of something just because they don't personally experience or understand it. It happens a lot with us nerdy folks and our superior intellects ;)
But that seems even more mystical and less likely than the initial problem of RF signals interfering with the electrical signals in the human body.
admittedly extreme example.
I'm not sure why you are comparing something like this to mysticism.
Masturbation is possible without porn, though.
(I'm not defending the Ukranians here, I think it's silly to outlaw it, I'm just playing devil's advocate for a moment. Also, while I do make a valid point, you can take it with a grain of salt since I'm female and can't quite understand how the male mind reacts so differently than mine to visual stimuli.)
I was referring to Coghill, not Goldacre.
And as for my friend, he leaves the phone off most of the time, unless he needs to make a call or knows someone is trying to contact him on it. He uses the landline at home and just has the cell for emergencies when he is out. This is a regular guy, he's not into religion, or conspiracy theories, or anything wacky. I highly doubt he'd believe in this if he weren't experiencing it firsthand.
But hey, I don't seem to suffer any ill effects. I don't think most folks do, so I'm at least willing to admit I might be wrong. I'm not attacking either side. Why can't you do the same?