Again, I think this is a functionality for manufacturers. ..I dunno how VA does it,but If I was running Foo Bar 2000 computing inc, selling linux boxes, I might have the root password for all machines be foobar2000 and then put in a script in root's bashrc telling them what's up, forcing them to change their password, and then deleting itself. That is one easy way to do things (and with the run command at first boot it would be easy to do an
echo 'echo "Welcome to yada yada" && passwd && echo "#this would be the standard user bashrc" >/root/.bashrc';
or something of the sorts). Anyways, I think that would be the main application of this very nice cgi, anyways.
I think why is a bad question. ..why not is a better one. I say this because:
It isn't a matter of cost or performance, things are moving so quickly that performance issues are mute
The exciting thing about computers is trying something new, trying to change the way we do and think about things, for the better
Things like 3d monitors (holographic displays?) and 3d input devices will follow quickly if the technology is worth adopting.
Sure we won't know if it is better (aside from eye-candy) until we try it. And I sincerely doubt that it will initially be better than GUI, just as initially GUI had little to offer above the commandline (remember X's initial function in life was to display xclock and a couple of xterms! No Window Manager even! Just as a GTK/Enlightenment desktop(example, not intending to start a war) would seem amazing and jam-packed with information to someone running one of the first GUIs, so too will a 3D gui of the future look amazing to us now. The point is it is a matter of familiarity and expression of ideas in a new medium, not "what can I picture a 3d gui being now." Just as none of us could imagine 'drag and drop' if we had been doing terminal stuff all the time, I am sure a 3d gui would bring forth new concepts when we begin to play with it.
NB: I am not even saying GUI is better than command line, but I do say it compliments it well. Imagine, then, using command line with 2D with 3D, I can't help but imagine it would be very powerful and be able to provide even more interaction than 2d gui and terminal stuff does now.
So I am not the only one. ..that is good to hear. Good luck!
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I work for a University as a dorm network consultant, and one thing I can tell you is the original BO is still alive and well. (For the end-users, obviously.)
Have you checked out VNC? It was actually designed for remote access, and I know there is a windows server and I am almost positive there is a Be client [maybe BeDepot, it isn't up on the vnc download site](though it will work in a java-enabled browser, anyways). It might be a better solution with all the coding taken care of for you.
Yeah, it still ueses gtk. ..so that means gtk is being ported to windows, too. That will make it easy to port a LOT of gtk software to windows. The end is not near. ..but like the other response said, it is very beta at this point
Okay, I am not a big fan of people complaining about moderation [fear what you hate, you may easily become it] but still. . . why??? I expressed an opionion and then gave some new information for people who didn't want to delve into the site. I found my info at http://www.matrox.com/ mga/g400/technical/glossary/feature2.htm, if someone thinks I am lieing. . .
Sure, and I thought my G200 was awesome. With 3d support booming in linux and the two headed display coming out with the next Xfree...this will be the card to have. Did anyone check out the max resolution? 2048 x 1536 @32bpp!!!
For what it is worth, his post was NOT signed (though none of his prior e-develop posts were, either). Nonetheless the post does exist and I don't personally doubt it.
That cut this one is a little weak. I would suggest two things. 1) working on the pod racer 2) just being a 'kid'. Granted, both necessitate an assumption as they weren't explicetly shown.
Fighting dirty This one is pretty easy, methinks. "eeee-vil" characters don't necessarily fight dirty! Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Darth Vader fought fairly in NH, it wasn't until ESB that the dirty fighting came out. But wait, he did kick Obi-won's light saber into the hole while Obi-won was hanging on. ..Obi-won used the force to get Qui-Gon's saber. ..is this sufficient?
Sure, Jar-jar wouldn't be someone I would want to hang out with necesarily, but just writing that comment reafirms my belief that he was Realistic. I like that. I didn't get annoyed with the movie because of him. He is a character and a beliveable character. That, in my opinion, benefits the movie. Actually, he and Anakin (usually the two most critically harped on characters) were the most fully developed.
That is where the movie disappointed me the most, very little character development in comparison to the trilogy. It seemed like Lucas favored the special effects (not that they weren't amazing) to developing the characters. The characters are really what makes a movie enjoyable, especially an epic. And this is where I felt most let down by TPM.
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I read the post where he thinks Linus is an unfit leader because he codes software for money. ..I won't make a comment on that.
What I was wondering, however, is how exactly does RMS put dinner on the table? I mean, he does do something, right? Why would such a great programmer not code for a living? Thanks!
"if Microsoft's stuff was good, almost everyone would be using it"
I think that ius the point. MS's product was good (for the money), back when it was one of few affordable personal computer OSes. Now most people are stuck in legacy stuff and aren't even aware alternatives exist. Nearly 3 millenia ago Aristotle (Father of Logic) pointed out the error in this arguement as Ad Populem. To express it colloqially, if all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you? If you post, please do so intellegently and with some support for your point, otherwise it is just flamebait.
I read the article and figured it would just draw flames from/.ers. I read the comments anyways and was pleasantly surprised. While flames did exist, I think that most of the posters were on topic, persuasive, and open-minded. This open-mindedness is very important as linux advocates are starting to draw bad media by being to extreme. So posters, whether you care or not, I am proud.
For the record, the comment I really like was by fornix about how linux is great for people who like to get at the internals of something and tinker. Since I couldn't moderate, I thought I would mention it before getting off the soapbox.
First, there is no bugs in MY chip, they just screwed up once, OK? And can you really expect to tell me that the voltage drawn by my processor is some big deal? I don't care about voltage, I want the fastest i386 processor and I can't get it anywhere else.
Second, again, I don't care about their motives. What corporation WOULD support linux for altruistic purposes? (back to my ever so carefully not included comment on hardware NOT being free and needing a company to sell it.
And yet again, they ARE in business, so they can't tell everyone everything about their products. I don't care that some whiny company is sueing, let them, they won't get anywhere.
Third, why do you presume to speak for Intel? That is exactly the type of propaganda I am talking about. "Would you like to see Intel double their CPU prices for every OEM that doesn't ship every box with an Intel.net signup icon on the desktop?" I am sorry, I must have missed that part of the article. Glad I have someone posting here that is so in the loop with Intel. Oh, but you weren't finised there, where you? "Intel adds (sic) that promise you that buying a new Pentium will make the Internet so much faster...." I have yet to see one of those, either. I have seen ones that claim to 'unlock the power of the internet', do things like allow easy and secure online ordering (but wait, big brother is out to get us, he is all around, Intel is going to use this against us, ahhh!!!). I have also them claim to increase multimedia performance of video playback and such, which I can't help but say is justified given A) they have the fastest performing processor in the (i386) market, and B) almost all developers optimize for MMX now. I just don't see who you would claim offers a better product, unless you are just saying they offer an imperfect product, which everyone does. Of maybe you are just on of those AMD people waiting for the *cough*vaporware*cough* K7.
Can't speak for other distros, but the important thing to remember is X only draws pixels to a screen. Want different wrappers around you window? Use a different window manager, or theme it. I would be greatly remiss if I didn't suggest Enlightenment to you (www.enlightenment.org, or check out e.themes.org). You want something that looks different from windows, you can't beat enlightenment. Also, I highly suggest GTK apps with themeable widgets, very cool. Check out www.gtk.org for that one, and the ubiquitous gtk.themes.org for their themes. That should get your desktop looking pretty individual. By the way, you are probably refering to FVWM95, which looks like windows and FVWM. If not, there is FVWM AND FVWM2, so that probably accounts for the difference. Definetly check out the MACOS theme for enligthenment, you will be impressed (e.themes.org, again).
Very simple: they are a big company. So what if they offer a good product, people will spread propaganda against them in hopes of helping out the little guys. This is the only way I can explain it. I mean, does anyone really think hardware should be free? If not, you need a company to sell it, and those that do a GOOD JOB will get big! Isn't Intel fairly forthcoming in allowing developers even access to information of their products? Sure, they can't give out everything, but they are helping out the Redhat developers. ..And finally, the idea that a company's entry into a new market is somehow inherently evil is amazing to me. You are probably better off not trying to understand, just hope that eventually people will become more open minded.
It is there because linuxconf (at least at RH 5.2 release time) didn't support printer configuration (primary reason) and a time/date modification. The control panel also links to glint, which linuxconf doesn't. Control Panel probably won't be in Starbuck (Dunno, ask someone running 5.9) and is being phased out, but my understanding is RH didn't feel linuxconf was ready to 'do the job alone' with the 5.2 release.
Redhat is good, I even like the control panel! I started Linux about half a year ago. I wanted to be *hardcore* so for the most part I have left rpms aside and went for tarballs, and left the control panel to do $vi/etc/*. However, I recently upgraded to the 2.2 kernel and my printer didn't work (changed from/dev/lp1 to/dev/lp0, I did read the documentation). I plunged around in/etc for awhile, but I finally remembered the control panel and fixed it in a second. The control panel is by no means a catch all, but it does make some jobs easy. I have to agree with you on fvwm95,though, hopefully starbuck will change that.
--no claims that I actually am hardcore, just achieving my own perception
Hey, so that is why Enlightenment is such a boring GUI, why PERL is such a dry language, why the ever-so commonplace themable widgets weren't previously implemented as open-source (gtk), etc, etc, etc.
Overall a good article, but the innovation comment kind of got to me:).
The latest thing in interpersonal relationships is the idea of "free friendship". While free these days is looked as something good, "free friendship" should be looked at from a somewhat different perspective. . ..
While free friendship is a great marketing tool (think about all those people you hardly know who say "hello" to you), what does it say about the friendship itself? Frankly, it says that the friendship (or the person so desperate to find friends) has no value. Is that what you people out there want? . ..
What you're left with is a bunch of amateur friends who need to have real jobs to make ends meet. Are these the type of people you want as friends, the type your social life depends on? . ..
In short, I'm not against friendship being given away. I just want the folks who are good friends to be paid--and paid handsomely--for it. That is the proper model for the industry. So the next time you think about having some "free friends", consider its cost to real friendship.
Glad to see a good ZDnet article, there may not be many, but there are some good ones. I think this author is good, I will have to keep watching him. Regardless, two upsetting things I found:
Red Hat Linux is not available with the 2.2 kernel. First of all, you CAN download RH 5.9, sure it is development, but it is a helluvalot more stable than NT w/o service packs (even with). But that isn't my point. There ARE 2.2 distros available now. I like RH, I use RH, but for goodness sake it isn't now nor will it ever be the only Linux distro, thankfully. Sticking point
Linux documentation hard to find wheras MS is easy to find. Okay, linux documentation varies a lot and sometimes is hard to find, but have any of you really ever tried to find something on MS's juggernaut of a web site? I was an NT guy about a year ago, but trying to find any REAL answers from their website only resulted in my getting lost in it and my seeing way to much propaganda.
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echo 'echo "Welcome to yada yada" && passwd && echo "#this would be the standard user bashrc" > /root/.bashrc';
or something of the sorts). Anyways, I think that would be the main application of this very nice cgi, anyways.
Yes, I am sure this is the last time MS hires some British electricians to design and set up the routers
btw, it's a joke, k?
It isn't a matter of cost or performance, things are moving so quickly that performance issues are mute
The exciting thing about computers is trying something new, trying to change the way we do and think about things, for the better
Things like 3d monitors (holographic displays?) and 3d input devices will follow quickly if the technology is worth adopting.
Sure we won't know if it is better (aside from eye-candy) until we try it. And I sincerely doubt that it will initially be better than GUI, just as initially GUI had little to offer above the commandline (remember X's initial function in life was to display xclock and a couple of xterms! No Window Manager even! Just as a GTK/Enlightenment desktop(example, not intending to start a war) would seem amazing and jam-packed with information to someone running one of the first GUIs, so too will a 3D gui of the future look amazing to us now. The point is it is a matter of familiarity and expression of ideas in a new medium, not "what can I picture a 3d gui being now." Just as none of us could imagine 'drag and drop' if we had been doing terminal stuff all the time, I am sure a 3d gui would bring forth new concepts when we begin to play with it.
NB: I am not even saying GUI is better than command line, but I do say it compliments it well. Imagine, then, using command line with 2D with 3D, I can't help but imagine it would be very powerful and be able to provide even more interaction than 2d gui and terminal stuff does now.
So I am not the only one. . .that is good to hear. Good luck!
I work for a University as a dorm network consultant, and one thing I can tell you is the original BO is still alive and well. (For the end-users, obviously.)
Have you checked out VNC? It was actually designed for remote access, and I know there is a windows server and I am almost positive there is a Be client [maybe BeDepot, it isn't up on the vnc download site](though it will work in a java-enabled browser, anyways). It might be a better solution with all the coding taken care of for you.
Will this work with my Elbrus E2K chip/mobo??? If it will, sign me up!
Yeah, it still ueses gtk. . .so that means gtk is being ported to windows, too. That will make it easy to port a LOT of gtk software to windows. The end is not near. . .but like the other response said, it is very beta at this point
Okay, I am not a big fan of people complaining about moderation [fear what you hate, you may easily become it] but still. . . why??? I expressed an opionion and then gave some new information for people who didn't want to delve into the site. I found my info at http://www.matrox.com/ mga/g400/technical/glossary/feature2.htm, if someone thinks I am lieing. . .
Sure, and I thought my G200 was awesome. With 3d support booming in linux and the two headed display coming out with the next Xfree...this will be the card to have. Did anyone check out the max resolution? 2048 x 1536 @32bpp!!!
For what it is worth, his post was NOT signed (though none of his prior e-develop posts were, either). Nonetheless the post does exist and I don't personally doubt it.
this one is a little weak. I would suggest two things. 1) working on the pod racer 2) just being a 'kid'. Granted, both necessitate an assumption as they weren't explicetly shown.
Fighting dirty
This one is pretty easy, methinks. "eeee-vil" characters don't necessarily fight dirty! Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Darth Vader fought fairly in NH, it wasn't until ESB that the dirty fighting came out. But wait, he did kick Obi-won's light saber into the hole while Obi-won was hanging on. .
That is where the movie disappointed me the most, very little character development in comparison to the trilogy. It seemed like Lucas favored the special effects (not that they weren't amazing) to developing the characters. The characters are really what makes a movie enjoyable, especially an epic. And this is where I felt most let down by TPM.
What I was wondering, however, is how exactly does RMS put dinner on the table? I mean, he does do something, right? Why would such a great programmer not code for a living? Thanks!
I think that ius the point. MS's product was good (for the money), back when it was one of few affordable personal computer OSes. Now most people are stuck in legacy stuff and aren't even aware alternatives exist. Nearly 3 millenia ago Aristotle (Father of Logic) pointed out the error in this arguement as Ad Populem. To express it colloqially, if all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you? If you post, please do so intellegently and with some support for your point, otherwise it is just flamebait.
I read the article and figured it would just draw flames from /.ers. I read the comments anyways and was pleasantly surprised. While flames did exist, I think that most of the posters were on topic, persuasive, and open-minded. This open-mindedness is very important as linux advocates are starting to draw bad media by being to extreme. So posters, whether you care or not, I am proud.
For the record, the comment I really like was by fornix about how linux is great for people who like to get at the internals of something and tinker. Since I couldn't moderate, I thought I would mention it before getting off the soapbox.
First, there is no bugs in MY chip, they just screwed up once, OK? And can you really expect to tell me that the voltage drawn by my processor is some big deal? I don't care about voltage, I want the fastest i386 processor and I can't get it anywhere else.
Second, again, I don't care about their motives. What corporation WOULD support linux for altruistic purposes? (back to my ever so carefully not included comment on hardware NOT being free and needing a company to sell it.
And yet again, they ARE in business, so they can't tell everyone everything about their products. I don't care that some whiny company is sueing, let them, they won't get anywhere.
Third, why do you presume to speak for Intel? That is exactly the type of propaganda I am talking about. "Would you like to see Intel double their CPU prices for every OEM that doesn't ship every box with an Intel.net signup icon on the desktop?" I am sorry, I must have missed that part of the article. Glad I have someone posting here that is so in the loop with Intel. Oh, but you weren't finised there, where you? "Intel adds (sic) that promise you that buying a new Pentium will make the Internet so much faster...." I have yet to see one of those, either. I have seen ones that claim to 'unlock the power of the internet', do things like allow easy and secure online ordering (but wait, big brother is out to get us, he is all around, Intel is going to use this against us, ahhh!!!). I have also them claim to increase multimedia performance of video playback and such, which I can't help but say is justified given A) they have the fastest performing processor in the (i386) market, and B) almost all developers optimize for MMX now. I just don't see who you would claim offers a better product, unless you are just saying they offer an imperfect product, which everyone does. Of maybe you are just on of those AMD people waiting for the *cough*vaporware*cough* K7.
Will he talk to me when I have problems with KOffice?
Can't speak for other distros, but the important thing to remember is X only draws pixels to a screen. Want different wrappers around you window? Use a different window manager, or theme it. I would be greatly remiss if I didn't suggest Enlightenment to you (www.enlightenment.org, or check out e.themes.org). You want something that looks different from windows, you can't beat enlightenment. Also, I highly suggest GTK apps with themeable widgets, very cool. Check out www.gtk.org for that one, and the ubiquitous gtk.themes.org for their themes. That should get your desktop looking pretty individual. By the way, you are probably refering to FVWM95, which looks like windows and FVWM. If not, there is FVWM AND FVWM2, so that probably accounts for the difference. Definetly check out the MACOS theme for enligthenment, you will be impressed (e.themes.org, again).
Very simple: they are a big company. So what if they offer a good product, people will spread propaganda against them in hopes of helping out the little guys. This is the only way I can explain it. I mean, does anyone really think hardware should be free? If not, you need a company to sell it, and those that do a GOOD JOB will get big! Isn't Intel fairly forthcoming in allowing developers even access to information of their products? Sure, they can't give out everything, but they are helping out the Redhat developers. . .And finally, the idea that a company's entry into a new market is somehow inherently evil is amazing to me. You are probably better off not trying to understand, just hope that eventually people will become more open minded.
It is there because linuxconf (at least at RH 5.2 release time) didn't support printer configuration (primary reason) and a time/date modification. The control panel also links to glint, which linuxconf doesn't. Control Panel probably won't be in Starbuck (Dunno, ask someone running 5.9) and is being phased out, but my understanding is RH didn't feel linuxconf was ready to 'do the job alone' with the 5.2 release.
Redhat is good, I even like the control panel! I started Linux about half a year ago. I wanted to be *hardcore* so for the most part I have left rpms aside and went for tarballs, and left the control panel to do $vi /etc/*. However, I recently upgraded to the 2.2 kernel and my printer didn't work (changed from /dev/lp1 to /dev/lp0, I did read the documentation). I plunged around in /etc for awhile, but I finally remembered the control panel and fixed it in a second. The control panel is by no means a catch all, but it does make some jobs easy. I have to agree with you on fvwm95,though, hopefully starbuck will change that.
--no claims that I actually am hardcore, just achieving my own perception
Hey, so that is why Enlightenment is such a boring GUI, why PERL is such a dry language, why the ever-so commonplace themable widgets weren't previously implemented as open-source (gtk), etc, etc, etc.
:).
Overall a good article, but the innovation comment kind of got to me
The latest thing in interpersonal relationships is the idea of "free friendship". While free these days is looked as something good, "free friendship" should be looked at from a somewhat different perspective. . . .
While free friendship is a great marketing tool (think about all those people you hardly know who say "hello" to you), what does it say about the friendship itself? Frankly, it says that the friendship (or the person so desperate to find friends) has no value. Is that what you people out there want? . .
What you're left with is a bunch of amateur friends who need to have real jobs to make ends meet. Are these the type of people you want as friends, the type your social life depends on? . .
In short, I'm not against friendship being given away. I just want the folks who are good friends to be paid--and paid handsomely--for it. That is the proper model for the industry. So the next time you think about having some "free friends", consider its cost to real friendship.
Red Hat Linux is not available with the 2.2 kernel. First of all, you CAN download RH 5.9, sure it is development, but it is a helluvalot more stable than NT w/o service packs (even with). But that isn't my point. There ARE 2.2 distros available now. I like RH, I use RH, but for goodness sake it isn't now nor will it ever be the only Linux distro, thankfully. Sticking point
Linux documentation hard to find wheras MS is easy to find. Okay, linux documentation varies a lot and sometimes is hard to find, but have any of you really ever tried to find something on MS's juggernaut of a web site? I was an NT guy about a year ago, but trying to find any REAL answers from their website only resulted in my getting lost in it and my seeing way to much propaganda.