Sure, valid point, but you can't advertise if you don't get any hits. Therefore, if enough people say, I like your product A, but if you continue practice B I will switch to competitor C. So, if you like Alta Vista (I do) hit the mailto link. Otherwise, what do you care? In general, if the internet didn't have value to people, specifically certain pages, then companies wouldn't advertise on them. It is nice to think of an open source and free and and advertisement-free world, but it is not going to happen. Advertisements are good for the internet because it provides an influx of money to sites which *can* result in improved services, as well as providing a market for mass-appeal sites. Sure, maybe advertiser-free sites can do the same or even a better job, but the internet isn't just for hackers anymore; it is full of people who want to see Mickey Mouse dance (or whatever he does) when they go to disney.com in IE4+. That being said, let the people who put up with ads do so, it will only propagate interest in the internet and allow things that will benefit us all (ex. companies deciding it is worthwhile to provide DSL and cable modem services and compete [ie, drive prices down] with others currently offering these services)
(The following is a vague memory, use it for the pint and not historical accuracy, please) During the Cold War, a Moscow newspaper released the results of an International comparison of automobiles. The Russian car finished in a close second, while the American car almost finished dead last. Moreover, while the Russian car won outright a great number of categories, the American car finished dead last in many catogories. ..The actual test was a two car comparison. . .
I am also somewhat unsure how fair the test would be if the people conducting the test were knowledgable enough to set keys in the Windows registry, but not enough to read documentation and upgrade a kernel without trashing a system.
'There are 3 types of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics' -Samuel Clemens
I agree that would be bad, but LOOKING at source code to get a better idea how all the APIs and such work is a lot different than ripping lines of code. Regardless, it probably is all moot, I don't really see it happening.
Don't think it will happen, but I bet the WINE developers are drooling at the possibilities. Just think of what they could do if the Windows source code was opened up!
About a bit a second then, huh? Scary, that is probably about as fast as WE people could distinctly and clearly percieve each bit. So this would be about the practical maximum if we were reading binary. Thank goodness for high-level encoding:).
Well, Don't forget I can have cable bring TV data into my house, and have 3 different people watching TV on the 3 different sets in 3 different rooms, which isn't THAT uncommon, especially in Suburbia.
About cable TV, though, I was wondering exactly how much bandwidth my 70 or so channels are using in comparison to the total theoretical bandwidth of coaxial cable. I don't think much, considering Satellite services offer more channels but I am fairly certain a satilite only has ~1/10 the bandwidth. ..correct me if I am horrible wrong:).
Then all the trendy business types who have heard about linux could jump over, see how good GPLed software is, how bloated and worthless MS products are, and that free software can and IS better than $200 shrinkwrapped crap, and then we will be all that much closer to World Domination!
If you feel that way, how about you move off to the USSR. ..wait, Socialism failed there.
Okay, move off to Utopia, that was a wonderful place with nothing resembling capitalism, wait, Utopia is Latin for "No Place", do you think St.Thomas More was saying something???
Well, it is beyond the next day and I am quite certain I did not forget what I read, therefore it was a false statement and NOT truth I found insulting.
"you guys who supposedely lead Linux hype. .."
I never said anything about hype, I just read about the MS DOJ case, saw someone comment that reading that was worthless, and I replied that I didn't share their opinion
"You'd better contribute to Linux codebase"
I am still learning to code, though I do try to help people who have posted to the Newsgroups about Linux problems. With or without AC threats.
"but you can't shut my mouth"
I am not trying to have you shut your mouth, I am merely asking you to stay relavent to topics, ie: "I am sick of this MS court case stuff" is fine, but "If you read about the MS court case you are wasting your time and you will forget about it tommorrow anyways" is not a relevant or worthwhile comment.
Gee, all my life I thought have been happy because I intelligently followed the collective teachings and thoughts of one of the world's leading theological institutions. Come to think of it, a lot of people I know have the same misconception. But, lo, an "Anonymous Coward" posted a very well constructed and intelligent flame contradicting this institution, such that my life will never be the same! ____________________
I am not saying "you offended me, go away"
I am saying, if you don't have anything INTELLIGENT to post, save us the pain of reading your ramblings. ..or at least pretend to offer support for your rhetoric
Look, I had too. . . Some people are actually interested in the case. If you aren't interested in the story, don't follow the link. Why would you spend the time to complain about something you feel is a waste of time? Let those of us who want to read the news read the news, and do so without someone who can't articulate his/her thoughts attempt insulting us.
Like I said, it is the bus / clock multiplier ratio that is being increased, and that is on the motherboard, not the chip. Maybe I just got a God-sent chip, but I haven't had a problem yet. All I know is I upped the multiplier, it ran faster and a little (but not much) hotter.
What's the deal with everyone yelling about Intel? I personally have a PII 400, it ran at about 100F when running at 400mhz and I now overclock it to 600mhz and it doesn't get over 120F, and it is rated to well over 150F, if memory serves. Have those who are talking about Intel chips being 'microwaves' actually have any experience with them, or is it just fun ripping on big companies. Remember, also that Intel is supporting linux and an Intel/Linux platform is probably the BEST (value) server out there nowadays, save possibly dec alpha.
I don't know of tools per say, but the mailboxes (in windoze) are held in simple text *.toc (table of contents) and *.mbx (mailbox) text files that aren't too hard to manipulate. The *.toc is just a listing of different mails and and *.mbx has the meat of the letters. Mabye a nice gawk program or even a shell program with a series of awk pipes could easily do whatever you are looking for. (of course this assumes you are using linux and mounted the dos partition).
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Sure, valid point, but you can't advertise if you don't get any hits. Therefore, if enough people say, I like your product A, but if you continue practice B I will switch to competitor C. So, if you like Alta Vista (I do) hit the mailto link. Otherwise, what do you care? In general, if the internet didn't have value to people, specifically certain pages, then companies wouldn't advertise on them. It is nice to think of an open source and free and and advertisement-free world, but it is not going to happen. Advertisements are good for the internet because it provides an influx of money to sites which *can* result in improved services, as well as providing a market for mass-appeal sites. Sure, maybe advertiser-free sites can do the same or even a better job, but the internet isn't just for hackers anymore; it is full of people who want to see Mickey Mouse dance (or whatever he does) when they go to disney.com in IE4+. That being said, let the people who put up with ads do so, it will only propagate interest in the internet and allow things that will benefit us all (ex. companies deciding it is worthwhile to provide DSL and cable modem services and compete [ie, drive prices down] with others currently offering these services)
(The following is a vague memory, use it for the pint and not historical accuracy, please) .The actual test was a two car comparison. . .
During the Cold War, a Moscow newspaper released the results of an International comparison of automobiles. The Russian car finished in a close second, while the American car almost finished dead last. Moreover, while the Russian car won outright a great number of categories, the American car finished dead last in many catogories. .
I am also somewhat unsure how fair the test would be if the people conducting the test were knowledgable enough to set keys in the Windows registry, but not enough to read documentation and upgrade a kernel without trashing a system.
'There are 3 types of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics' -Samuel Clemens
I agree that would be bad, but LOOKING at source code to get a better idea how all the APIs and such work is a lot different than ripping lines of code. Regardless, it probably is all moot, I don't really see it happening.
Don't think it will happen, but I bet the WINE developers are drooling at the possibilities. Just think of what they could do if the Windows source code was opened up!
"a bandwidth of 0.13 bytes/sec"
:).
About a bit a second then, huh? Scary, that is probably about as fast as WE people could distinctly and clearly percieve each bit. So this would be about the practical maximum if we were reading binary. Thank goodness for high-level encoding
Well, Don't forget I can have cable bring TV data into my house, and have 3 different people watching TV on the 3 different sets in 3 different rooms, which isn't THAT uncommon, especially in Suburbia.
About cable TV, though, I was wondering exactly how much bandwidth my 70 or so channels are using in comparison to the total theoretical bandwidth of coaxial cable. I don't think much, considering Satellite services offer more channels but I am fairly certain a satilite only has ~1/10 the bandwidth. . .correct me if I am horrible wrong :).
Then all the trendy business types who have heard about linux could jump over, see how good GPLed software is, how bloated and worthless MS products are, and that free software can and IS better than $200 shrinkwrapped crap, and then we will be all that much closer to World Domination!
What do you have when you have a lawyer up to his neck in cement?
Not enough cement
So was the spelling "would'nt" intentional??? :).
I will give you credit and assume it was
I would buy from VA Research, but I built my system myself. Anyway, I agree with you that this is a good thing for Tux.
If you feel that way, how about you move off to the USSR. . .wait, Socialism failed there.
Okay, move off to Utopia, that was a wonderful place with nothing resembling capitalism, wait, Utopia is Latin for "No Place", do you think St.Thomas More was saying something???
I am sure LinuxCare is happy about this. I am glad to hear Linux support agencies getting a boost. I am in college now, so maybe when I get out. . .
"If truth insults you, then I feel sorry for you"
."
Well, it is beyond the next day and I am quite certain I did not forget what I read, therefore it was a false statement and NOT truth I found insulting.
"you guys who supposedely lead Linux hype. .
I never said anything about hype, I just read about the MS DOJ case, saw someone comment that reading that was worthless, and I replied that I didn't share their opinion
"You'd better contribute to Linux codebase"
I am still learning to code, though I do try to help people who have posted to the Newsgroups about Linux problems. With or without AC threats.
"but you can't shut my mouth"
I am not trying to have you shut your mouth, I am merely asking you to stay relavent to topics, ie: "I am sick of this MS court case stuff" is fine, but "If you read about the MS court case you are wasting your time and you will forget about it tommorrow anyways" is not a relevant or worthwhile comment.
Gee, all my life I thought have been happy because I intelligently followed the collective teachings and thoughts of one of the world's leading theological institutions. Come to think of it, a lot of people I know have the same misconception. But, lo, an "Anonymous Coward" posted a very well constructed and intelligent flame contradicting this institution, such that my life will never be the same!
.or at least pretend to offer support for your rhetoric
____________________
I am not saying "you offended me, go away"
I am saying, if you don't have anything INTELLIGENT to post, save us the pain of reading your ramblings. .
Look, I had too. . . Some people are actually interested in the case. If you aren't interested in the story, don't follow the link. Why would you spend the time to complain about something you feel is a waste of time? Let those of us who want to read the news read the news, and do so without someone who can't articulate his/her thoughts attempt insulting us.
Like I said, it is the bus / clock multiplier ratio that is being increased, and that is on the motherboard, not the chip. Maybe I just got a God-sent chip, but I haven't had a problem yet. All I know is I upped the multiplier, it ran faster and a little (but not much) hotter.
Didn't say anything about a 150mhz bus, I overclocked using the bus / multiplier ratio and setting that to 6 [ 6 * 100 = 600 ].
What's the deal with everyone yelling about Intel? I personally have a PII 400, it ran at about 100F when running at 400mhz and I now overclock it to 600mhz and it doesn't get over 120F, and it is rated to well over 150F, if memory serves. Have those who are talking about Intel chips being 'microwaves' actually have any experience with them, or is it just fun ripping on big companies. Remember, also that Intel is supporting linux and an Intel/Linux platform is probably the BEST (value) server out there nowadays, save possibly dec alpha.
I don't know of tools per say, but the mailboxes (in windoze) are held in simple text *.toc (table of contents) and *.mbx (mailbox) text files that aren't too hard to manipulate. The *.toc is just a listing of different mails and and *.mbx has the meat of the letters. Mabye a nice gawk program or even a shell program with a series of awk pipes could easily do whatever you are looking for. (of course this assumes you are using linux and mounted the dos partition).