It's not the pidgin/purple/xmpp teams' fault(s), but this is astoundingly slow progress. That's one audio/video protocol out of many (msn, yahoo, etc. still need to be done from the sound of things). It's been years since the jingle reference library was opened up by google. In the meantime, google have moved on to Wave, twitter has happened, social networking has happened (granted, pidgin has a facebook IM extension), rapid download sites that compete with bittorrent have happened (and file transfers in pidgin are still flakey)...
It's great to see pidgin finally getting A/V, but they'll really have to push the pace a little if they want this to matter to more than a few luddites who stick with outdated tech when the rest of us have moved on.
It's been a long time in coming, and there have been many forked projects doing similar things before. Hopefully the fact that it's finally here in mainstream pidgin code means that someone found the proper architecture that they needed for approval, and all of the other A/V protocols can now be implemented quickly.
At least based on my experience, your cynicism is highly misplaced.
Uhh... you might find it interesting to realise that you're in a potentially biased position, being the ones who did the convicting and all. You could think everything went swell, that all the evidence stacked up, that you were very fair, etc., whilst the guy is sits in prison wondering what the hell just happened to the system he believed in and funded for years. I'm not saying that's what happened, but don't be so sure of yourself. The system is highly flawed at best, and quite often downright corrupt.
Fact is... if he didn't actually admit to the crime, you'll never know for sure, no matter what the evidence says. Hell, even if he DID admit it, he could be lying for any number of reasons.
It just means that DNA is no longer quite so useful in proving that a person is guilty. It is still perfectly useful in the much more important task of proving not guilty.
Huh? The principle is that you ONLY have to prove someone guilty. They're supposed to be innocent by default.
There are much more natural ways to organise things than democracy actually. For one, many organisations work by consensus rather than majority vote. Either everyone agrees, or the thing doesn't happen --- at that level. This is not to say that the thing can't be achieved, as there can still be different groups, according to hierarchy, skills, understanding, etc. A group of laypeople may not agree on how to build a bridge, but a group of civil engineers might well agree that only one solution is practical. Or, a group of engineers might approve three designs out of five, passing them along to a city planning commitee who chooses from one of the designs based on aesthetics.
In other words, there are plenty of ways to organise things that don't involve negativity, saying that someone's opinion is invalid. Instead, different people can agree to focus on what they know best, and do it well. In fact, this is much more like how people normally self-organise, amongst close friends.
Indeed. If you look closely with filtered binoculars (10x magnification or so will do fine), you can make out darker areas on the surface, which spell "Philips", just like any other electrically powered lightbulb.
Or, to put it another way... the Sun is not "powered by electricity". It's essentially a huge, ongoing, thermonuclear reaction.
I was hoping for something more in-depth than just soldering stuff on a prefabricated PCB. That's a no-brainer.
Exactly. This is what uneducated workers do on assembly lines. And not for fun or the learning experience.
How people thought up the schematics on the first home computers, and how translatable it is to modern embedded systems etc. would be much more interesting.
He's making up a legal theory about virtual property and artist rights in virtual worlds that simply doesn't exist, yet. It's wishful thinking.
It's called software and copyright. You know, that stuff that gets run to make the virtual world come alive? Maybe it shouldn't exist, but it does.
If you're actually holding courts INSIDE a virtual world, then you might need virtual laws. That would be over things like whether the virtual cash from one virtual country was traded at the correct virtual exchange rate to another virtual country's cash system. Even then, it'd probably be easier to make a case for simple theft in the real world, assuming that cash was related to subscription fees and play time.
Tonight at 11, a developer performs work for a client, then whines when the client does what he wants with the work!
Actually it sounds more like the developer is claiming the contract was for him to produce and license a work, rather than to sell the work outright. However, he seems to have given away the original and/or developed it ON the client's system, instead of developing independently and supplying a copy to the client.
Normally, if I license software to a client, and the client burns their DVD, I'd be expected to have a master copy somewhere.
Sounds like the failing is the developer's in this case --- either to not develop independently, or to not understand the nature of the medium he developed for.
There is always a contract, even if verbal. If the client won't admit that in court, it becomes more complex, but if it's a simple case of two people misinterpreting the contract, that shouldn't be an issue.
That's the whole point. This is the re-imagined version. I've been lucky enough to get a sneak-peak at the opening scene, and it sounds great.
It starts off in space above one of the colonies, with a huge cruiser ship drifting by, and some overlaid narrative text, which reads, "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..."
I'm using Chrome right now, but it isn't "different" in any deep sense of the word; just slightly themed.
That said, I'll wait to see what this new browser is all about. I'd be very surprised if you can make a browser THAT differently, given that the underlying protocol/model won't change.
Sure, they probably get better sleep then I do and feel more refreshed
I wouldn't count on that. I know people who don't sleep at all, and will tell you they're doing fine. Except that everything about their attitude to life, their diet, their lifestyle, their health, and their general wellbeing says otherwise.
I think you have Sony's work on their game in mind. We're talking about PLAYER'S contribution to games in general, and USER's contributions to websites in general.
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Trillian is probably your best bet. I've never tried the A/V support, but it's been there for quite a while. Also look into Gizmo.
I know.
http://www.kichwa.com/quik_ref/spec_variables.html
http://www.perl.com/doc/manual/html/pod/perlop.html
You'll never know for sure.
It's not the pidgin/purple/xmpp teams' fault(s), but this is astoundingly slow progress. That's one audio/video protocol out of many (msn, yahoo, etc. still need to be done from the sound of things). It's been years since the jingle reference library was opened up by google. In the meantime, google have moved on to Wave, twitter has happened, social networking has happened (granted, pidgin has a facebook IM extension), rapid download sites that compete with bittorrent have happened (and file transfers in pidgin are still flakey)...
It's great to see pidgin finally getting A/V, but they'll really have to push the pace a little if they want this to matter to more than a few luddites who stick with outdated tech when the rest of us have moved on.
It's been a long time in coming, and there have been many forked projects doing similar things before. Hopefully the fact that it's finally here in mainstream pidgin code means that someone found the proper architecture that they needed for approval, and all of the other A/V protocols can now be implemented quickly.
Uhh... you might find it interesting to realise that you're in a potentially biased position, being the ones who did the convicting and all. You could think everything went swell, that all the evidence stacked up, that you were very fair, etc., whilst the guy is sits in prison wondering what the hell just happened to the system he believed in and funded for years. I'm not saying that's what happened, but don't be so sure of yourself. The system is highly flawed at best, and quite often downright corrupt.
Fact is... if he didn't actually admit to the crime, you'll never know for sure, no matter what the evidence says. Hell, even if he DID admit it, he could be lying for any number of reasons.
There, fixed that for you.
Huh? The principle is that you ONLY have to prove someone guilty. They're supposed to be innocent by default.
There are much more natural ways to organise things than democracy actually. For one, many organisations work by consensus rather than majority vote. Either everyone agrees, or the thing doesn't happen --- at that level. This is not to say that the thing can't be achieved, as there can still be different groups, according to hierarchy, skills, understanding, etc. A group of laypeople may not agree on how to build a bridge, but a group of civil engineers might well agree that only one solution is practical. Or, a group of engineers might approve three designs out of five, passing them along to a city planning commitee who chooses from one of the designs based on aesthetics.
In other words, there are plenty of ways to organise things that don't involve negativity, saying that someone's opinion is invalid. Instead, different people can agree to focus on what they know best, and do it well. In fact, this is much more like how people normally self-organise, amongst close friends.
Indeed. If you look closely with filtered binoculars (10x magnification or so will do fine), you can make out darker areas on the surface, which spell "Philips", just like any other electrically powered lightbulb.
Or, to put it another way... the Sun is not "powered by electricity". It's essentially a huge, ongoing, thermonuclear reaction.
Exactly. This is what uneducated workers do on assembly lines. And not for fun or the learning experience.
How people thought up the schematics on the first home computers, and how translatable it is to modern embedded systems etc. would be much more interesting.
It's called software and copyright. You know, that stuff that gets run to make the virtual world come alive? Maybe it shouldn't exist, but it does.
If you're actually holding courts INSIDE a virtual world, then you might need virtual laws. That would be over things like whether the virtual cash from one virtual country was traded at the correct virtual exchange rate to another virtual country's cash system. Even then, it'd probably be easier to make a case for simple theft in the real world, assuming that cash was related to subscription fees and play time.
Actually it sounds more like the developer is claiming the contract was for him to produce and license a work, rather than to sell the work outright. However, he seems to have given away the original and/or developed it ON the client's system, instead of developing independently and supplying a copy to the client.
Normally, if I license software to a client, and the client burns their DVD, I'd be expected to have a master copy somewhere.
Sounds like the failing is the developer's in this case --- either to not develop independently, or to not understand the nature of the medium he developed for.
There is always a contract, even if verbal. If the client won't admit that in court, it becomes more complex, but if it's a simple case of two people misinterpreting the contract, that shouldn't be an issue.
Theories are nice, but Chrome hangs for me (and then gets killed, which is as good as a crash) more than any other browser.
Yeah, I knew that looked wrong when I typed it :) Was late, is all.
You mean... guys with a moustache aren't really Clingons?
That's the whole point. This is the re-imagined version. I've been lucky enough to get a sneak-peak at the opening scene, and it sounds great.
It starts off in space above one of the colonies, with a huge cruiser ship drifting by, and some overlaid narrative text, which reads, "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..."
I'm using Chrome right now, but it isn't "different" in any deep sense of the word; just slightly themed.
That said, I'll wait to see what this new browser is all about. I'd be very surprised if you can make a browser THAT differently, given that the underlying protocol/model won't change.
I wouldn't count on that. I know people who don't sleep at all, and will tell you they're doing fine. Except that everything about their attitude to life, their diet, their lifestyle, their health, and their general wellbeing says otherwise.
Indeed. Even whites. So long as they're white males. And not so old that they're beyond any remotely conceivable threat.
Almost, but they've added something called Artificial Intelligence to the mix.
The only reason I recognise it is because of the similar but very exaggerated (and therefore very noticeable) expression used in anime.
I think you have Sony's work on their game in mind. We're talking about PLAYER'S contribution to games in general, and USER's contributions to websites in general.
Ahh, the irony that people call it a democracy.