Nothing about a GUI tool prevents componentised use. In fact, most modern GUIs support some sort of component system. Windows has COM/DCOM,OLE, KDE has DCOP/DBUS, GNOME has CORBA/DBUS, etc.
As for your claim that Visual Studio forces you to use one editor:
Oh, I agree with the principles, don't worry. Its just that words do tend to have a life of their own, and I'm not about to try to fight that life, since it's much bigger than me. What both of us understand as community/communism seems to know be known as socialism (in some quarters). I expect even that word will be soon be sidelined by people who hate the idea of helping others without a profit motive though.
Makes me wonder why roofs and not pavement. There's a lot of roads and parking lots around the world. Seems like there's more surface area of those than roofs.
What you have to understand is that there's climate change, and the movement to save the environment. Then, there's "global warming" and the movement to sell you yet more products that can "save the environment!!" (despite the fact that selling unnecessary products and not living simply enough is the main cause of damage)
half of the video streaming sites I use (legitimate, obviously) break with "AMAGAD UR OS IZ NOT ZUPPRORTREAD." messages
Which, of course, are all thanks to Microsoft's monopoly, which you're supporting by still using Windows. Not trying to cause trouble, but there's no point complaining about a problem if you're still part of the problem.
Where are you getting this idea that socialism means "Force"? I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it doesn't fit anything I've ever heard or read on the subject. I would say you're confusing socialism and authoritarian communism, except that you seemed to make a clear distinction between the two.
While each individual may contribute to their ability, it is on a voluntary basis. "Each according to their need"
Hmm. I've always understood "their ability" to exclude those who feel unable to contribute, for reasons such as depression and selfishness. Viewed in that light, it aligns pretty well with modern therapeutic concepts, like supporting people with love and non-judgmental understanding, so that they naturally become happy, functional, contributing people.
I've never understood the sad devotion to vi and vim and other obfuscated tools that UNIX elitists have. Sure I can use vi, but why in god's name would anyone want to unless they're forced to work over ssh for all of their development?
Agreed. I only learned vi because I had to, for admin'ing remote machines in a consistent way, when some which didn't necessarily have nicer editors installed. Yes, vi is fast for some basic things, but in many ways, I think it's all a poor substitute people have settled with, in place of proper unix support for editing remote files from whatever local app you choose.
Specialized IDE is of course always an option, esp. if you are developing in say Java, but I would seriously question someone's ability if they eschewed the shell tool chain.
That would be a mistake. I learned on the command line, and in many ways, it's still the way I'm most comfortable with and use more often, but if someone comes and asks me whether I "prefer" farting about at a command line over a decent modern IDE with RAD GUI tools, built in debugger, built in version control, click-to-edit error log handling, build configuration support etc., I'm liable to think they're living in the stone age.
I like Linux as much as the next guy, but... as long as your UAV can follow Max Guevera around taking photos, AND turn people into mimes, you're all set.
What your "meters" are doing is your own business;)
I can think of several transportation management apps and several engineering apps which have no open source equivalent
So that's not a problem then, since we're talking about which is PREFERRED.
and likely never will (mainly because the "itch" you'd have to scratch is, for example, a large, multi-modal transportation network)
Incorrect. There's nothing fundamental about the itch-license link, and plenty of large projects have been open source: Red Flag Linux, Beowulf, OpenCRM, GNU Enterprise, this canadian city-wide project, brazilian projects, NASA projects... the list is pretty long.
Saying that proprietary software is "by definition, not fit for purpose" would be ridiculous in such cases, which are far from uncommon.
No, YOU see it as ridiculous, because its beyond your comprehension, so you prefer to throw the idea out by ridicule than wrestle with it. Big difference. The fact is that, yes, many government projects are unfit for purpose. This is in no way invalidated by the fact that governments have been making do with them (through ignorance or otherwise) until now. See the UK's recent report on government databases, many of which were literally declared unfit for purpose, if you still can't grasp this.
Anyway, I'm not going to argue back and forth about this. I stand by what I've said, take it or leave it.
So if I create normal horizontal tabs, and put vertical text in them, the whole tab will realise it's supposed to be oriented vertically, and will do up/down scrolling etc., instead of horizontal? Really?
That would be a fairly neat (though obscure) solution, if so. If it's true, apologies. But I'd be surprised.
Am I the only one made uncomfortable by the thought of introducing genetically engineered viruses into people, even if it is only for medical treatment?...
No, it's potentially deadly. But personally, I'm more worried about treating addictions with chemicals. How we cope with our own lack of control -- whether we drug it or learn self-discipline -- is probably much more potentially serious for our species, in the long-run.
PC World here in the UK have a nice RTB warranty system: reinstall the default OS and the default config, or they won't look at the hardware they sold you. Translation: software scares them.
Wine has a quality bar that is required for code to be committed.
I'm glad to hear this perspective (which seems to be echoed all through this post's comments). I've never really looked at WINE code, but I have been impressed with how far they've come, and how cautious and patient they were in declaring version 1.0... most projects would have called that version 3.0 or something. KDE probably would have taken 0.1 and called it 1.0. WINE devs seem to be quite disciplined, which is great, considering the importance of what they're doing.
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Nothing about a GUI tool prevents componentised use. In fact, most modern GUIs support some sort of component system. Windows has COM/DCOM,OLE, KDE has DCOP/DBUS, GNOME has CORBA/DBUS, etc.
As for your claim that Visual Studio forces you to use one editor:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Integrate_gvim_with_Visual_Studio
Reactionary response. Well done.
So people in your town wake up on a summer's day and proclaim, "Yes!! Another Winter in New England!"?
You guys have issues ;)
Because it would remind the nautical types of their ancestors' history with eye-patches and wooden legs?
Oh, I agree with the principles, don't worry. Its just that words do tend to have a life of their own, and I'm not about to try to fight that life, since it's much bigger than me. What both of us understand as community/communism seems to know be known as socialism (in some quarters). I expect even that word will be soon be sidelined by people who hate the idea of helping others without a profit motive though.
What you have to understand is that there's climate change, and the movement to save the environment. Then, there's "global warming" and the movement to sell you yet more products that can "save the environment!!" (despite the fact that selling unnecessary products and not living simply enough is the main cause of damage)
No, that's community.
Which, of course, are all thanks to Microsoft's monopoly, which you're supporting by still using Windows. Not trying to cause trouble, but there's no point complaining about a problem if you're still part of the problem.
Actually, that's a Linux server detecting Vista and filling in the blanks.
Fall, release, drop, give-up, fail... all much the same really.
Hey, you can't say that. Don't you know we hate socialism, and we're at war with North Korea... because we like that too?
Where are you getting this idea that socialism means "Force"? I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it doesn't fit anything I've ever heard or read on the subject. I would say you're confusing socialism and authoritarian communism, except that you seemed to make a clear distinction between the two.
Hmm. I've always understood "their ability" to exclude those who feel unable to contribute, for reasons such as depression and selfishness. Viewed in that light, it aligns pretty well with modern therapeutic concepts, like supporting people with love and non-judgmental understanding, so that they naturally become happy, functional, contributing people.
Spam on slashdot. Good call. You probably just got added to thousands of admin's web filters.
Agreed. I only learned vi because I had to, for admin'ing remote machines in a consistent way, when some which didn't necessarily have nicer editors installed. Yes, vi is fast for some basic things, but in many ways, I think it's all a poor substitute people have settled with, in place of proper unix support for editing remote files from whatever local app you choose.
That would be a mistake. I learned on the command line, and in many ways, it's still the way I'm most comfortable with and use more often, but if someone comes and asks me whether I "prefer" farting about at a command line over a decent modern IDE with RAD GUI tools, built in debugger, built in version control, click-to-edit error log handling, build configuration support etc., I'm liable to think they're living in the stone age.
And neither are robots using RNGs to decide how to throw a die.
Runs Linux? Pfft.
I like Linux as much as the next guy, but... as long as your UAV can follow Max Guevera around taking photos, AND turn people into mimes, you're all set.
What your "meters" are doing is your own business ;)
So that's not a problem then, since we're talking about which is PREFERRED.
Incorrect. There's nothing fundamental about the itch-license link, and plenty of large projects have been open source: Red Flag Linux, Beowulf, OpenCRM, GNU Enterprise, this canadian city-wide project, brazilian projects, NASA projects... the list is pretty long.
No, YOU see it as ridiculous, because its beyond your comprehension, so you prefer to throw the idea out by ridicule than wrestle with it. Big difference. The fact is that, yes, many government projects are unfit for purpose. This is in no way invalidated by the fact that governments have been making do with them (through ignorance or otherwise) until now. See the UK's recent report on government databases, many of which were literally declared unfit for purpose, if you still can't grasp this.
Anyway, I'm not going to argue back and forth about this. I stand by what I've said, take it or leave it.
So if I create normal horizontal tabs, and put vertical text in them, the whole tab will realise it's supposed to be oriented vertically, and will do up/down scrolling etc., instead of horizontal? Really?
That would be a fairly neat (though obscure) solution, if so. If it's true, apologies. But I'd be surprised.
No, it's potentially deadly. But personally, I'm more worried about treating addictions with chemicals. How we cope with our own lack of control -- whether we drug it or learn self-discipline -- is probably much more potentially serious for our species, in the long-run.
PC World here in the UK have a nice RTB warranty system: reinstall the default OS and the default config, or they won't look at the hardware they sold you. Translation: software scares them.
I'm glad to hear this perspective (which seems to be echoed all through this post's comments). I've never really looked at WINE code, but I have been impressed with how far they've come, and how cautious and patient they were in declaring version 1.0... most projects would have called that version 3.0 or something. KDE probably would have taken 0.1 and called it 1.0. WINE devs seem to be quite disciplined, which is great, considering the importance of what they're doing.
Why? I suspect you're not used to vertical tabs because GTK+ isn't able to create them.
What's not exciting about out-of-control velocotermites?