The slowest component in your computer is most likely your hard drive. When you run out of memory (which is both fast and cheap) the computer swaps to pagefile, and that slows your computer down. If you're running out of memory, and relying on swap, then memory is an issue and you want to use less of it (or buy more of it). However, if you're not running out of memory, then yes, CPU usage is more important.
Again, it isn't the disk space of the files you've downloaded. It caches fully rendered versions of pages in memory. If you wish to change this, check out the following about:config settings.
No, it is a stupid question that gets asked over and over again, and answered over and over again.
There is no one major memory leak.
1 - Most major complex apps have small leaks. It is damn near impossible to plug all of them, but Firefox has been plugging away at these very heavily for some time. 2 - Many of the "leaks" that people see are caused by poorly-coded extensions. Turn off your extensions and notice the difference. 3 - Firefox uses a bunch of memory after you've been browsing a while. THIS IS A STANDARD FEATURE, AND NOT A MEMORY LEAK. Firefox doesn't just a cache of files downloaded, it keeps in memory a cache of fully rendered pages. If you don't like this feature, then you can adjust it, or turn it off completely.
1 - Any complex app will likely have some memory leaks. The code has been very thoroughly examined and cleaned up for Firefox 3. 2 - Most "leaks" come from poorly written extensions/add-ons. Run without them and check out the difference. 3 - There is a feature in Firefox that you can easily turn off, that people mistake for a memory leak. Firefox keeps fully rendered versions of pages in memory, in addition to the standard cache on the hard disk. If you hit back, Firefox doesn't need to re-render the page. Browse a while, and Firefox will use up plenty of memory. If you don't like this behavior, then turn the feature off.
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Apple even altered the firewall software on Mac OS X to hide the fact that iTunes phones home.
And the source on Darwin was closed. They refused to release code required to compile and run Darwin. They refused to release code that was part of Darwin.
The K6 and K7 lines were often better engineered than their Intel counterparts. The AMD Athlon 64 line was so good that Intel ended up copying it, and initially Intel couldn't seem to make a proper 64-bit processor, 3 years after AMD was selling one. The Athlon 64 was consistently kicking in the teeth of the P4 line. The Core 2 Duo line at the top is consistently beating the AMD line right now, but you can't say one historically has always been better than the other. It goes back and forth.
One of the most promising and impressive new features in beta 3 is an integrated add-on installer system that allows users to search for and install add-ons from addons.mozilla.org directly through the add-on manager user interface.
Now my dream is to see a QT brand of Firefox again, perhaps using QT 4's built-in Webkit. Unify Konqueror, Safari and Firefox on one rendering engine and work towards making that the best damned rendering engine out there. They spent nearly two years on the new Gecko rendering engine, and it still isn't as fast as Webkit/KHTML. Firefox has all the features I want for the most part. I'm not saying they should abandon GTK, but they support multiple widgets and toolkits. Someone please give me a QT 4 branch of Firefox and I've be very happy.
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Bill Gates also worked heavily on OS/2 and promised it would be the OS for businesses. What we have today has little to do with DOS or early versions of Windows, but rather NT which they bought.
And OS X has little to nothing to do with previous iterations of the Mac OS. Steve Jobs had ties to NeXTstep, but that didn't mean Apple had to use it. Again, Apple has abandoned other things, just as Microsoft has.
I also didn't say Apple was the single biggest pusher of DRM, simply that they have been one of the biggest pushers. iTunes phones home, and FairPlay isn't exactly fair. They have pushed proprietary hardware. They won't allow their software on non-Apple hardware, and charge considerably more for the same hardware. The bundle software in much the same way that Microsoft was found guilty of anti-trust laws. It was deemed illegal to bundle Windows Media Player, yet Apple forced me to download iTunes to get QT. Admittedly, this thankfully eventually changed.
Again again, I didn't saw Darwin was closed source. I said it has been closed source. Apple has waffled on that.
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It is important however to separate the package manager and the packages themselves. If nothing else, portage handles dependencies very well, and will even show you a tree of dependencies for your packages.
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So they built upon something existing. That's backwards logic. You insist that because they built upon an existing product, that ruled out them possibly using another existing product because NeXTstep started before Linux was big? That makes zero sense.
Furthermore, Apple was been one of the biggest pushers of DRM and proprietary standards for years. Not to mention that they've taken credit for innovations and inventions that have existed in the open source community for years. (Virtual desktops come to mind) Given that they weren't even willing to keep the kernel open, what makes you think they'd ever completely abandon DRM and allow their OS to be fully open source? Is there any indication they'd ever consider it?
Stop trolling.
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There are tons of advantages to portage, but the biggest is use flags. It also handles dependencies far better than apt-get, yast, or anything else I've tried. I've run into broken, dependency hell of other systems. That alone is huge.
You say the packages in Gentoo are horrible. They are source based packages, the same as you'd get with Debian, or Ubuntu, etc. Each distro does often include distro-specific patches with various packages, but not all. However, I'm not sure which packages are so horrible in Gentoo, as we're just talking about source code.
If you're not familiar with use flags, I can compile in support for qt widgets, gtk widgets, java, etc, or remove any of these features from openoffice as I see fit. Or I can download a precompiled binary of openoffice. With something like apt-get, you can download sources and the recompile the sources, but apt-get has no way to keep track of whether or not you compiled openoffice with ldap support or not. However, Gentoo keeps track of the use flags for dependency purposes, and to make sure all packages of my systems are compiled with the same options. Or I can set a use flag for one package as opposed to globally if I wish.
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Mac OS 9 wasn't Unix based. When they jumped to a Unix base with OS X, Linux had been well established. They choose a BSD base because of the license. OS X isn't open source. The kernel is, but it hasn't always been. At times Apple has closed off the source of the kernel. If they chose a Linux base, OS X would have to be completely open source, and that was never going to fly.
Apple chose a license that allowed them to take open code, alter, redistribute, and not share the source. Again, the parent examples fits in with their current practices.
I don't imagine my whole computer will even run more than 10% faster, let alone 3 times faster. However, there are some really large, clunky codebases such as OpenOffice that could probably really benefit from this. And if part of the benefit comes from assembly in-lining, then code that has large chunks of assembly like emulators, or maybe the kernel might benefit as well. It will likely be up to these packages to try and support llvm rather than vice-versa.
At what level? At the top level, yes Intel has a lead right now. There is no denying that. But the low-end AMD processors are so cheap, they give far better bang for the buck. The last processor I bought was an AMD X2 3600+ brand new for $35. At the time, the cheapest comparable Intel dual-core offering was $150. They benchmarked about the same, and the X2 overclocks amazingly well.
Some Gentoo users just want fine-grained control over their systems. They get exactly the packages they want, configured the way they want, and nothing else. The biggest power of Gentoo isn't compile optimizations, but rather use flags. I want my box to operate exactly how I want it. Gentoo allows me that freedom.
It does take a good deal more time and effort, but frankly some people enjoy that sort of thing as a hobby, the way others constantly tinker with their car.
For what it is worth, portage (and the two portage replacements, pauldis and pkgcore) are quite frankly hands down the best package managers out there, and they handle pre-compiled binary packages just as well. I really honestly believe the rest of the Linux world would be greatly benefited by using one package manager, regardless of how they compile or pack their binaries.
Set a use flag for openSUSE_10.3 and portage knows what packages to grab. It could work.
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That's why Apple used a BSD base as opposed to a Linux base for Mac OS X.
I agree that some people want heavy rules. Different systems are good for different things. I've also seen diceless games.
D&D for instance never aims for balance, but rather for giving each player a niche within the party. Barbarians aren't meant to be perfectly equal with Bards. However, with D&D, crawling a dungeon is somewhat expected for the game. It is one of the few games that awards experience primarily according to surviving combat, so combat is a very necessary portion of the rules. I think 4E is a great disservice to D&D in that regard.
I think certain rule systems are cumbersome and get in the way of role playing, while other systems have mechanics which help the mood/genre/setting/theme of the game. Exalted gives bonus dice for creative stunts. The old Star Wars d6 system was very quick and cinematic, that catered to the concept that player characters are heroes. Games can be well, or poorly designed.
I've never been a huge fan of D&D on any level, but I felt 3/3.5 was the best version. Characters were more unique due to skills and feats, where as dice rolling was less arbitrary. Instead of countless tables of random rules that made little sense in a grand context, the D20 system created a unity and equity that also simplified things a great deal.
4E seems to continue the simplification, but to the extent that combat is less interesting, and characters are less unique.
Is that why when the US government was demanding search data, that Google was the only company willing to butt heads with the government to protect privacy, while Yahoo, AOL and Microsoft all volunteered private data?
The Wii is attracting a new crowd of casual gamers, but many die-hard traditional gamers I know quickly tired of Wii sports and are looking for the really good single player games that offer lengthy gameplay using the new mechanics. Super Mario Galaxy is a good start. Will the entire industry take notice and change? I'm not so sure yet.
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The slowest component in your computer is most likely your hard drive. When you run out of memory (which is both fast and cheap) the computer swaps to pagefile, and that slows your computer down. If you're running out of memory, and relying on swap, then memory is an issue and you want to use less of it (or buy more of it). However, if you're not running out of memory, then yes, CPU usage is more important.
Again, it isn't the disk space of the files you've downloaded. It caches fully rendered versions of pages in memory. If you wish to change this, check out the following about:config settings.
browser.cache.memory.capacity
browser.cache.memory.enable
browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers
config.trim_on_minimize
No, it is a stupid question that gets asked over and over again, and answered over and over again.
There is no one major memory leak.
1 - Most major complex apps have small leaks. It is damn near impossible to plug all of them, but Firefox has been plugging away at these very heavily for some time.
2 - Many of the "leaks" that people see are caused by poorly-coded extensions. Turn off your extensions and notice the difference.
3 - Firefox uses a bunch of memory after you've been browsing a while. THIS IS A STANDARD FEATURE, AND NOT A MEMORY LEAK. Firefox doesn't just a cache of files downloaded, it keeps in memory a cache of fully rendered pages. If you don't like this feature, then you can adjust it, or turn it off completely.
What feature does Firefox lack out of the box that others provide? Mouse gestures?
People keep saying they want Firefox small and fast, and now you're complaining about modularity?
This is a bit of an urban legend at this point.
1 - Any complex app will likely have some memory leaks. The code has been very thoroughly examined and cleaned up for Firefox 3.
2 - Most "leaks" come from poorly written extensions/add-ons. Run without them and check out the difference.
3 - There is a feature in Firefox that you can easily turn off, that people mistake for a memory leak. Firefox keeps fully rendered versions of pages in memory, in addition to the standard cache on the hard disk. If you hit back, Firefox doesn't need to re-render the page. Browse a while, and Firefox will use up plenty of memory. If you don't like this behavior, then turn the feature off.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=75
Apple even altered the firewall software on Mac OS X to hide the fact that iTunes phones home.
And the source on Darwin was closed. They refused to release code required to compile and run Darwin. They refused to release code that was part of Darwin.
You need to check your facts.
The K6 and K7 lines were often better engineered than their Intel counterparts. The AMD Athlon 64 line was so good that Intel ended up copying it, and initially Intel couldn't seem to make a proper 64-bit processor, 3 years after AMD was selling one. The Athlon 64 was consistently kicking in the teeth of the P4 line. The Core 2 Duo line at the top is consistently beating the AMD line right now, but you can't say one historically has always been better than the other. It goes back and forth.
One of the most promising and impressive new features in beta 3 is an integrated add-on installer system that allows users to search for and install add-ons from addons.mozilla.org directly through the add-on manager user interface.
Brilliant! Must build from trunk again!
I've been using Firefox 3 (trunk builds) before Firefox 2 was an official release. I love it.
Whatever happened to:
> Issue one major release every year (Fx 3 in 2007, Fx 4 in 2008, etc.) since it helps drive upgrades and adoption
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Firefox_Requirements#Release_Roadmap
Now my dream is to see a QT brand of Firefox again, perhaps using QT 4's built-in Webkit. Unify Konqueror, Safari and Firefox on one rendering engine and work towards making that the best damned rendering engine out there. They spent nearly two years on the new Gecko rendering engine, and it still isn't as fast as Webkit/KHTML. Firefox has all the features I want for the most part. I'm not saying they should abandon GTK, but they support multiple widgets and toolkits. Someone please give me a QT 4 branch of Firefox and I've be very happy.
Bill Gates also worked heavily on OS/2 and promised it would be the OS for businesses. What we have today has little to do with DOS or early versions of Windows, but rather NT which they bought.
And OS X has little to nothing to do with previous iterations of the Mac OS. Steve Jobs had ties to NeXTstep, but that didn't mean Apple had to use it. Again, Apple has abandoned other things, just as Microsoft has.
I also didn't say Apple was the single biggest pusher of DRM, simply that they have been one of the biggest pushers. iTunes phones home, and FairPlay isn't exactly fair. They have pushed proprietary hardware. They won't allow their software on non-Apple hardware, and charge considerably more for the same hardware. The bundle software in much the same way that Microsoft was found guilty of anti-trust laws. It was deemed illegal to bundle Windows Media Player, yet Apple forced me to download iTunes to get QT. Admittedly, this thankfully eventually changed.
Again again, I didn't saw Darwin was closed source. I said it has been closed source. Apple has waffled on that.
It is important however to separate the package manager and the packages themselves. If nothing else, portage handles dependencies very well, and will even show you a tree of dependencies for your packages.
So they built upon something existing. That's backwards logic. You insist that because they built upon an existing product, that ruled out them possibly using another existing product because NeXTstep started before Linux was big? That makes zero sense.
Furthermore, Apple was been one of the biggest pushers of DRM and proprietary standards for years. Not to mention that they've taken credit for innovations and inventions that have existed in the open source community for years. (Virtual desktops come to mind) Given that they weren't even willing to keep the kernel open, what makes you think they'd ever completely abandon DRM and allow their OS to be fully open source? Is there any indication they'd ever consider it?
Stop trolling.
There are tons of advantages to portage, but the biggest is use flags. It also handles dependencies far better than apt-get, yast, or anything else I've tried. I've run into broken, dependency hell of other systems. That alone is huge.
You say the packages in Gentoo are horrible. They are source based packages, the same as you'd get with Debian, or Ubuntu, etc. Each distro does often include distro-specific patches with various packages, but not all. However, I'm not sure which packages are so horrible in Gentoo, as we're just talking about source code.
If you're not familiar with use flags, I can compile in support for qt widgets, gtk widgets, java, etc, or remove any of these features from openoffice as I see fit. Or I can download a precompiled binary of openoffice. With something like apt-get, you can download sources and the recompile the sources, but apt-get has no way to keep track of whether or not you compiled openoffice with ldap support or not. However, Gentoo keeps track of the use flags for dependency purposes, and to make sure all packages of my systems are compiled with the same options. Or I can set a use flag for one package as opposed to globally if I wish.
Check this out sometime.
http://paludis.pioto.org/
Mac OS 9 wasn't Unix based. When they jumped to a Unix base with OS X, Linux had been well established. They choose a BSD base because of the license. OS X isn't open source. The kernel is, but it hasn't always been. At times Apple has closed off the source of the kernel. If they chose a Linux base, OS X would have to be completely open source, and that was never going to fly.
Apple chose a license that allowed them to take open code, alter, redistribute, and not share the source. Again, the parent examples fits in with their current practices.
I don't imagine my whole computer will even run more than 10% faster, let alone 3 times faster. However, there are some really large, clunky codebases such as OpenOffice that could probably really benefit from this. And if part of the benefit comes from assembly in-lining, then code that has large chunks of assembly like emulators, or maybe the kernel might benefit as well. It will likely be up to these packages to try and support llvm rather than vice-versa.
At what level? At the top level, yes Intel has a lead right now. There is no denying that. But the low-end AMD processors are so cheap, they give far better bang for the buck. The last processor I bought was an AMD X2 3600+ brand new for $35. At the time, the cheapest comparable Intel dual-core offering was $150. They benchmarked about the same, and the X2 overclocks amazingly well.
$35 or $150, wow that is a tough one.
Again, Intel isn't always the best processor.
Some Gentoo users just want fine-grained control over their systems. They get exactly the packages they want, configured the way they want, and nothing else. The biggest power of Gentoo isn't compile optimizations, but rather use flags. I want my box to operate exactly how I want it. Gentoo allows me that freedom.
It does take a good deal more time and effort, but frankly some people enjoy that sort of thing as a hobby, the way others constantly tinker with their car.
For what it is worth, portage (and the two portage replacements, pauldis and pkgcore) are quite frankly hands down the best package managers out there, and they handle pre-compiled binary packages just as well. I really honestly believe the rest of the Linux world would be greatly benefited by using one package manager, regardless of how they compile or pack their binaries.
Set a use flag for openSUSE_10.3 and portage knows what packages to grab. It could work.
That's why Apple used a BSD base as opposed to a Linux base for Mac OS X.
Replace diminutive with small, and perhaps you have a point.
That's how I planned to break up, by fucking Matt Damon!
And in Soviet Russia, Matt Damon fucks you!
I agree that some people want heavy rules. Different systems are good for different things. I've also seen diceless games.
D&D for instance never aims for balance, but rather for giving each player a niche within the party. Barbarians aren't meant to be perfectly equal with Bards. However, with D&D, crawling a dungeon is somewhat expected for the game. It is one of the few games that awards experience primarily according to surviving combat, so combat is a very necessary portion of the rules. I think 4E is a great disservice to D&D in that regard.
I think certain rule systems are cumbersome and get in the way of role playing, while other systems have mechanics which help the mood/genre/setting/theme of the game. Exalted gives bonus dice for creative stunts. The old Star Wars d6 system was very quick and cinematic, that catered to the concept that player characters are heroes. Games can be well, or poorly designed.
I've never been a huge fan of D&D on any level, but I felt 3/3.5 was the best version. Characters were more unique due to skills and feats, where as dice rolling was less arbitrary. Instead of countless tables of random rules that made little sense in a grand context, the D20 system created a unity and equity that also simplified things a great deal.
4E seems to continue the simplification, but to the extent that combat is less interesting, and characters are less unique.
Really?
Is that why when the US government was demanding search data, that Google was the only company willing to butt heads with the government to protect privacy, while Yahoo, AOL and Microsoft all volunteered private data?
To say that Google lacks a privacy policy is pure fiction. http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html
Next time check your facts.
That depends. Time must tell.
The Wii is attracting a new crowd of casual gamers, but many die-hard traditional gamers I know quickly tired of Wii sports and are looking for the really good single player games that offer lengthy gameplay using the new mechanics. Super Mario Galaxy is a good start. Will the entire industry take notice and change? I'm not so sure yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Mega_Drive
The Megadrive had a model and SegaNet. In the states all we had was SegaChannel.