...I'm all for "it takes a villiage to raise an OS" or whatever, but am I the only one here who thinks "GetRewted" is a bit of a sketchy name for a security patch? The name isn't exactly inspiring a feeling of security (or credibility) in me. Kind of like buying a home security system from "GetBrokenInto", or soup from "GetBotulism". My general theory of security is "AvoidGettingRewtedAtAllReasonableCost". Takes different strokes to move the world. That's what the source is for, anyway, I guess...give it something of a read-through before piping it through patch.
Hmm...or was it The Learning Channel. I was just watching TV and they had the store camera video show (the one with the thief who puts down his rifle, but not the tank one). Oh well...aren't TLC and Discovery owned by the same company? Have to do some research tonight and make sure I have my facts straight.
If it's not asteroids and comets, it's a feature on something that's being shown in the latest movie (Pearl Harbor, Egypt, etc)
That thing with the Russian comet air burst was on for *hours* last night...it was inescapable (except for a thing on minesweepers [yep, the game, obviously] on History Channel).
The Discovery Channel has become the "EgyptPoliceChasesAsteroidsTopicalMovieStuff" Channel, but must Slashdot follow suit?
And if I'm flipping through channels and I see that security camera recording of that convenience store robber who puts his rifle on the counter, and the clerk grabs it again, I'm going to have an anuerysm. That, or the police chase with that guy driving a tank down the LA freeway.
Ah yes....plugging keyboards into boxes but setting them infront of different computers in the Mac labs back in high school. Sweet memories...sweet, juicy memories.
I agree...should have left Kozmo alone and gone after the real criminals. It's not as if Kozmo was sending porn 5 times daily to your 12 year old's AOL account...Kozmo brought cool stuff to you in under an hour! Good stuff like Red Bull, DVD rentals, and toilet paper! Eventually, stuff like toys for your 12 year old to recover from porn-filled-AOL-inbox shock, and $70 steak dinners! I think they should have gone less on the steak and hot food and they would have been around longer, but nevermind...where am I going to get Red Bull and DVDs now?! Fight the real criminals...Kozmo was a friend to lazy college students everywhere!
...Satire is forbidden under the DMCA? After satire, there's little that isn't in there. All it'll take is a few very well done RIAA/MPAA jokes to erode the credibility of the organizations (not that they don't do that well enough on their own) and their shiny, expensive new laws. Jokes, of course, are a way of circumventing the content and meaning of the protected piece. Whether it's Columbine or playing Marco-Polo with your old pals, you know it's hinting at MasterCard one way or the other. One is hinting in the way intended and sanctioned by the 'content creator', the other is an illegal, undesireable hinting completely at odds with the way the origonal creators intended.
Ok, so...you have the stuff you want to last the ages on CD, but if you want to read the stuff once "the ages" come, you'll need the instructions to make a CD-ROM drive, no? If the instructions also need to last as long as the stuff that's being archived, simply put the instructions to make a CD-ROM on a CD, and it'll last forever and a day (or 50-odd years as someone pointed out)...simple! So, now you've got your archived material, and instructions on how to make a CD-ROM. To read them, you just need a CD-ROM. All you need to do is build a CD-ROM to read the instructions on how to build a CD-ROM, which is stored on a CD so you can get to your archived material. In order to build this CD-ROM, you'll need the instructions on how to build a CD-ROM. These instructions should be stored on CD for it's good (I know...) archival (not) properties. Luckily, the instructions on how to make the instructions-reading CD-ROM's instructions reading instructions can be found on a CD-ROM (You obviously couldn't write this down on paper...there's no jokes about instructions to read paper to be had), so all you have to do is build such a CD-ROM using instructions that you previously CD-Instructioned Build ROM put on ages last put on dry kept cool place with build CD-ROM
$ Segmentation fault
$ su
# shutdown -r now
Ok...having built (counts on his fingers) a roughly infinite number of CD-ROMs in order to read the instructions on how to build the CD-ROMS so you can get the instructions to build the CD-ROMS (go get a coffee, this could take awhile), you've successfully built the final, archive-reading CD-ROM, you find that it is one of the following:
Completely Plausable CD Contents #1: A Win95 CD with the labling worn off
Completely Plausable CD Contents #2: That cookie recipie, The Story of Mel (Love the story of Mel...just it makes a good example of things that get passed around alot), The Tao of Programming, ASCII "Angela", The Halloween Document, a "Herbert Kornfield" editorial, "UNIX Command Line Fun" (bash: %blow: no such job), the "Mad Short DeCSS Implementation of the Moment", et al.
Completely Plausable CD Contents #3: 600 meg of B-rated porn, an "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" mpeg, and the lyrics to "Stairway to Heaven", and the IIS unicode exploit (Windows binary, zipped)
Completely Plausable CD Contents #4: "Slashdot Archive 2453 of 15,000", containing, among other things, the overcaffeinated post of one procrastinating w4nker who really should be studying for his ApSci exam tomorrow instead of wasting everyones time by prattling on about instructions regarding CD-ROM building Instructions so you can build a CD-ROM to read the instructions to build a CD-ROM in order to get at the instru *manual reboot (a la the BOFH, found on CD #5)* I think I'll go make some maccaroni and cheese.
I pictured the CA state government monitoring the millions of air conditioners in the state and tweaking them in response to the condition of their power grid at the moment. This, of course, would be one of those incredibly controvercial solutions (that would, admittably, be quite effective).
The thing that most led me to that conclusion was IBM's involvement. A large scale project with the CA govermnent seemed like something IBM would be in to, rather than a European novelty (luxury) item. Other than the passing "Hey...that's kind of neat", does anyone *really* need this? I suppose there's a small environmental benifit: you can turn your A/C on 15 minutes before you return to the house rather than leave it on all day.
...almost have to feel sorry for the guy. First, he lost $500. Second, he got completely and totally worked over by these two. Third, imagine the #channel this guy had to hang out in to find these two geniuses. Script kiddies are very unpleasent people to have to deal with. They're rude, obnoxyous, unintelligent, speak incoherently, swear alot, and so forth. Fourth, he's getting utterly destroied on Slashdot...he'll never work in this town again!
Caveat: This post is working under the assumption that the two criminals existed. Smart money on the whole thing being as big a scam as that which was being 'reported'. Thank you for your time
Who is really, really hoping the reporter (or to a lesser extent, his two subjects) is reading this discussion? How could he not know this article is on slashdot? I'd be very interested to hear his response to all this.
On the other hand, the two tea-leaves have probably targeted us all for a good working-over (This is me...this is me being very afraid....*cough* this is funny, people, laugh (tm)). In other news, I had to enter my credit card number to get my bogonflux mail...don't remember that before. I'm expecting an invoice for a PS2, a case of Jolt, and 15 AOL accounts to show up at my door care of "Heywood Jablomi" any day now. Oh well.
I had "Greek God Book" there before I remembered I had such a card and took a look! Definately not Greek style, but Centurian didn't even come to mind, for some reason.
Sure it should..."Imagine A Beowulf Cluster Of These" is a time honored tradition, dating to back when cavemen would stack rocks on top of eachother to simulate a larger, more powerful rock without the size and espense of a "Super Rock". Other things that can be made into beowulf clusters include herring, iMacs, the DMCA (how much would that suck), Natalie Portman, CueCats, the iPac palmtop, the CounterStrike mod to HalfLife, and, of course, other Beowulf Clusters.
Maybe if you posted less as an A/C you'd get moderator someday and you could do something about it, untill then, enjoy the Ozzy and shut your mouth.
A thousand poxes upon your head, Mr. O'Reilly....you gave me "Programming Perl, Second Edition" when I really needed "Credit Card Fraud in a Nutshell", The Roman God Book (you know? the guy on the AmEx? This is funny, people, laugh!), to say nothing of "Stopping Spam".
O wasted youth!
Never again will I reclaim the time spent learning of the MIPS and PowerPC assembly or postulating applications of microwave data communications or cryptography. Oh the 1337 skr1ptz I could have forged using SDMI vector registers and operations, enciphered in none but the best Blowfish or AES...they would pj33r on Dalnet, but nay...it is not to be.
Days wasted actually doing things when I could have lounged in bed all day, with my laptop of the day, causing housewives and preteens on AOL to fall lame victim to my insidious cunning. Pausing only, of course, to take a highly circular and redundant path to the nearest Texaco to recieve money from MSNBC writers (Oh how the Black Helicopters would follow me, but for naught).
Exactly, but who wants to read a story about something as mundane as spamming? People get spammed several times a day, but rarely do people get 'hacked'. Saying it's hacking and not spamming lends a credibility, and no small measure of mystique to the story. Spamming is irritating...hacking is exciting. Besides, do you think this reporter cares about the gross misuse of the term? He's just trying to make a buck, and he'll get more bucks for his story on 'hacking' than 'spamming'.
And to think...I thought hackers wrote tight code, and messed with hardware and such. Boy was I ever wrong...it's all in the credit card fraud, banner ad fraud, spamming, and porn! So many wasted nights...
Speaking of nights, what hackers work from 11 am to 11 pm?! And when was somebody going to tell me that netzero and AOL were the ISPs of choice? This article has really opened my eyes, and I'm going to get a few phony email accounts and turn my life around!!
....that smaller is *always* better!? How much smaller are cell phones, for example, going to shrink until you can't talk into one end and still be able to hear in the other? I don't want a match box with a numeric keypad...I want something I can hold comfortably and not break if it gets sat on! And these tiny miracle CDs with magical compression algorithms, special features and encryption so tight, your Britney Spears won't be cracked for at least three times as long as the universe is old! The point has been made before about putting these things into soda machines or lost in the sofa like spare change. Knowing the RIAA, these things sure won't cost spare change, so the lost won't be trivial. Then, of course, you'll need a tiny player for this new wonder format. Thing will be so small, it will probably be a device in line with a pair of headphones. Can I interest anyone in some inline stream encryption? Oh, and convenience of conveniences, there's no good way to get the music off this cute lil' button and onto your computer (and henceforth onto the Napster of the Nanosecond (tm))
Well, ApSci 113 draws near, and I think I lost my PDA in the lint trap last night...
...I'm all for "it takes a villiage to raise an OS" or whatever, but am I the only one here who thinks "GetRewted" is a bit of a sketchy name for a security patch? The name isn't exactly inspiring a feeling of security (or credibility) in me. Kind of like buying a home security system from "GetBrokenInto", or soup from "GetBotulism". My general theory of security is "AvoidGettingRewtedAtAllReasonableCost". Takes different strokes to move the world. That's what the source is for, anyway, I guess...give it something of a read-through before piping it through patch.
Laugh, folks...this is supposed to be funny.
Sure, but they could at least get NEW ones once in awhile....that's my main beef with them, and not show the same ones five times a day!
Hmm...or was it The Learning Channel. I was just watching TV and they had the store camera video show (the one with the thief who puts down his rifle, but not the tank one). Oh well...aren't TLC and Discovery owned by the same company? Have to do some research tonight and make sure I have my facts straight.
...The Discovery Channel.
If it's not police chases, it's Egypt.
If it's not Egypt, it's asteroids and comets
If it's not asteroids and comets, it's a feature on something that's being shown in the latest movie (Pearl Harbor, Egypt, etc)
That thing with the Russian comet air burst was on for *hours* last night...it was inescapable (except for a thing on minesweepers [yep, the game, obviously] on History Channel).
The Discovery Channel has become the "EgyptPoliceChasesAsteroidsTopicalMovieStuff" Channel, but must Slashdot follow suit?
And if I'm flipping through channels and I see that security camera recording of that convenience store robber who puts his rifle on the counter, and the clerk grabs it again, I'm going to have an anuerysm. That, or the police chase with that guy driving a tank down the LA freeway.
Ah yes....plugging keyboards into boxes but setting them infront of different computers in the Mac labs back in high school. Sweet memories...sweet, juicy memories.
I agree...should have left Kozmo alone and gone after the real criminals. It's not as if Kozmo was sending porn 5 times daily to your 12 year old's AOL account...Kozmo brought cool stuff to you in under an hour! Good stuff like Red Bull, DVD rentals, and toilet paper! Eventually, stuff like toys for your 12 year old to recover from porn-filled-AOL-inbox shock, and $70 steak dinners! I think they should have gone less on the steak and hot food and they would have been around longer, but nevermind...where am I going to get Red Bull and DVDs now?! Fight the real criminals...Kozmo was a friend to lazy college students everywhere!
I thought everyone liked things moving constantly in their peripheral vision when they were working.
...no stupid anthropomorphic office equipment here!
/me shoots apaperclip across the room with a rubber band in a symbolic gesture
Wait...what am I so excited about? If it's too complicated for Jed , I throw it into StarOffice
...Satire is forbidden under the DMCA? After satire, there's little that isn't in there. All it'll take is a few very well done RIAA/MPAA jokes to erode the credibility of the organizations (not that they don't do that well enough on their own) and their shiny, expensive new laws. Jokes, of course, are a way of circumventing the content and meaning of the protected piece. Whether it's Columbine or playing Marco-Polo with your old pals, you know it's hinting at MasterCard one way or the other. One is hinting in the way intended and sanctioned by the 'content creator', the other is an illegal, undesireable hinting completely at odds with the way the origonal creators intended.
Oh Well...
Hey, as long as this crap on the Internet is finally meaningful to *something*...
>>A new form of Web content that is meaningful to computers will unleash a revolution of new possibilities
Good ideas, but I think we first need to make Web content that is meaningful to Humans before we start worrying about our Computers
(Yeah, I know...not *that* kind of meaningful, but it had to be said, what with all the worthless drivel on the Internet and all)
Ok, so...you have the stuff you want to last the ages on CD, but if you want to read the stuff once "the ages" come, you'll need the instructions to make a CD-ROM drive, no? If the instructions also need to last as long as the stuff that's being archived, simply put the instructions to make a CD-ROM on a CD, and it'll last forever and a day (or 50-odd years as someone pointed out)...simple! So, now you've got your archived material, and instructions on how to make a CD-ROM. To read them, you just need a CD-ROM. All you need to do is build a CD-ROM to read the instructions on how to build a CD-ROM, which is stored on a CD so you can get to your archived material. In order to build this CD-ROM, you'll need the instructions on how to build a CD-ROM. These instructions should be stored on CD for it's good (I know...) archival (not) properties. Luckily, the instructions on how to make the instructions-reading CD-ROM's instructions reading instructions can be found on a CD-ROM (You obviously couldn't write this down on paper...there's no jokes about instructions to read paper to be had), so all you have to do is build such a CD-ROM using instructions that you previously CD-Instructioned Build ROM put on ages last put on dry kept cool place with build CD-ROM
$ Segmentation fault
$ su
# shutdown -r now
Ok...having built (counts on his fingers) a roughly infinite number of CD-ROMs in order to read the instructions on how to build the CD-ROMS so you can get the instructions to build the CD-ROMS (go get a coffee, this could take awhile), you've successfully built the final, archive-reading CD-ROM, you find that it is one of the following:
Completely Plausable CD Contents #1: A Win95 CD with the labling worn off
Completely Plausable CD Contents #2: That cookie recipie, The Story of Mel (Love the story of Mel...just it makes a good example of things that get passed around alot), The Tao of Programming, ASCII "Angela", The Halloween Document, a "Herbert Kornfield" editorial, "UNIX Command Line Fun" (bash: %blow: no such job), the "Mad Short DeCSS Implementation of the Moment", et al.
Completely Plausable CD Contents #3: 600 meg of B-rated porn, an "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" mpeg, and the lyrics to "Stairway to Heaven", and the IIS unicode exploit (Windows binary, zipped)
Completely Plausable CD Contents #4: "Slashdot Archive 2453 of 15,000", containing, among other things, the overcaffeinated post of one procrastinating w4nker who really should be studying for his ApSci exam tomorrow instead of wasting everyones time by prattling on about instructions regarding CD-ROM building Instructions so you can build a CD-ROM to read the instructions to build a CD-ROM in order to get at the instru *manual reboot (a la the BOFH, found on CD #5)* I think I'll go make some maccaroni and cheese.
I apologize in advance to my Karma
I pictured the CA state government monitoring the millions of air conditioners in the state and tweaking them in response to the condition of their power grid at the moment. This, of course, would be one of those incredibly controvercial solutions (that would, admittably, be quite effective).
The thing that most led me to that conclusion was IBM's involvement. A large scale project with the CA govermnent seemed like something IBM would be in to, rather than a European novelty (luxury) item. Other than the passing "Hey...that's kind of neat", does anyone *really* need this? I suppose there's a small environmental benifit: you can turn your A/C on 15 minutes before you return to the house rather than leave it on all day.
Oh well.
You know? I jumped at this pun, then kept reading and found the lzip article...curse my impatient posting behavior!
...it's the gz/bz2 compression you have to look out for.
(da da dum...sorry)
...almost have to feel sorry for the guy. First, he lost $500. Second, he got completely and totally worked over by these two. Third, imagine the #channel this guy had to hang out in to find these two geniuses. Script kiddies are very unpleasent people to have to deal with. They're rude, obnoxyous, unintelligent, speak incoherently, swear alot, and so forth. Fourth, he's getting utterly destroied on Slashdot...he'll never work in this town again!
Caveat: This post is working under the assumption that the two criminals existed. Smart money on the whole thing being as big a scam as that which was being 'reported'. Thank you for your time
I sense a disturbance in the bogon flux
Who is really, really hoping the reporter (or to a lesser extent, his two subjects) is reading this discussion? How could he not know this article is on slashdot? I'd be very interested to hear his response to all this.
On the other hand, the two tea-leaves have probably targeted us all for a good working-over (This is me...this is me being very afraid....*cough* this is funny, people, laugh (tm)). In other news, I had to enter my credit card number to get my bogonflux mail...don't remember that before. I'm expecting an invoice for a PS2, a case of Jolt, and 15 AOL accounts to show up at my door care of "Heywood Jablomi" any day now. Oh well.
Only if they also teamed up with LinuxCare and made it bootable.
I had "Greek God Book" there before I remembered I had such a card and took a look! Definately not Greek style, but Centurian didn't even come to mind, for some reason.
Sure it should..."Imagine A Beowulf Cluster Of These" is a time honored tradition, dating to back when cavemen would stack rocks on top of eachother to simulate a larger, more powerful rock without the size and espense of a "Super Rock". Other things that can be made into beowulf clusters include herring, iMacs, the DMCA (how much would that suck), Natalie Portman, CueCats, the iPac palmtop, the CounterStrike mod to HalfLife, and, of course, other Beowulf Clusters.
Maybe if you posted less as an A/C you'd get moderator someday and you could do something about it, untill then, enjoy the Ozzy and shut your mouth.
....A Beowulf Cluster Of Those.
Oh wait, nevermind
A thousand poxes upon your head, Mr. O'Reilly....you gave me "Programming Perl, Second Edition" when I really needed "Credit Card Fraud in a Nutshell", The Roman God Book (you know? the guy on the AmEx? This is funny, people, laugh!), to say nothing of "Stopping Spam".
O wasted youth!
Never again will I reclaim the time spent learning of the MIPS and PowerPC assembly or postulating applications of microwave data communications or cryptography. Oh the 1337 skr1ptz I could have forged using SDMI vector registers and operations, enciphered in none but the best Blowfish or AES...they would pj33r on Dalnet, but nay...it is not to be.
Days wasted actually doing things when I could have lounged in bed all day, with my laptop of the day, causing housewives and preteens on AOL to fall lame victim to my insidious cunning. Pausing only, of course, to take a highly circular and redundant path to the nearest Texaco to recieve money from MSNBC writers (Oh how the Black Helicopters would follow me, but for naught).
Ok, that's about enough of that
Exactly, but who wants to read a story about something as mundane as spamming? People get spammed several times a day, but rarely do people get 'hacked'. Saying it's hacking and not spamming lends a credibility, and no small measure of mystique to the story. Spamming is irritating...hacking is exciting. Besides, do you think this reporter cares about the gross misuse of the term? He's just trying to make a buck, and he'll get more bucks for his story on 'hacking' than 'spamming'.
d33z d00dz R k-1337 h4x0rs!!!
And to think...I thought hackers wrote tight code, and messed with hardware and such. Boy was I ever wrong...it's all in the credit card fraud, banner ad fraud, spamming, and porn! So many wasted nights...
Speaking of nights, what hackers work from 11 am to 11 pm?! And when was somebody going to tell me that netzero and AOL were the ISPs of choice? This article has really opened my eyes, and I'm going to get a few phony email accounts and turn my life around!!
.....*grumble*
Sure...just "Bee" careful duct-taping it to the seat.
(I know....finding flowers and dancing and such, but I couldn't help myself)
....that smaller is *always* better!? How much smaller are cell phones, for example, going to shrink until you can't talk into one end and still be able to hear in the other? I don't want a match box with a numeric keypad...I want something I can hold comfortably and not break if it gets sat on! And these tiny miracle CDs with magical compression algorithms, special features and encryption so tight, your Britney Spears won't be cracked for at least three times as long as the universe is old! The point has been made before about putting these things into soda machines or lost in the sofa like spare change. Knowing the RIAA, these things sure won't cost spare change, so the lost won't be trivial. Then, of course, you'll need a tiny player for this new wonder format. Thing will be so small, it will probably be a device in line with a pair of headphones. Can I interest anyone in some inline stream encryption? Oh, and convenience of conveniences, there's no good way to get the music off this cute lil' button and onto your computer (and henceforth onto the Napster of the Nanosecond (tm))
Well, ApSci 113 draws near, and I think I lost my PDA in the lint trap last night...