From everything I rea din this article, these schemes prevent the ripping of audio data from a CD, since there is extra data that confuses the TOC so that CDROM drives cannot read it. While this will keep your ripping program from working, I do not see how this would prevent the burning of a CD. A simple raw copy using dd or some other command would copy the raw data from the CD, no filesystem or format necessary. Then it is a simple matter of burning that image to a CD. I fail to see how there is any prevention of copying in this.
If the UK won't grant it, then they'll just take their business elsewhere.
You don't understand the concept. If these practices aren't patentable in the UK, then patents made elseware aren't enforcable to UK buisnesses either. So UK buisnesses (and any others that decide to re-locate to the UK) are free to use "one click shopping" or "floatable toolbars" in whatever they want, with no fear of repercussions. I would think this will be a big boon to buisness in the UK.
Forget the fact that this is awesome for console gamers for the moment, consider the news about a week ago that someone has released a Dreamcast NetBSD ISO. With Broadband, a whole new bunch of possibilities open up (remote boot, remote X Terms) that would make the dreamcast an EXTRMEELY small, powerful, and usefull device, once the correct modules and drivers have been hacked for it.
He doesn't mean that there's no confirmation that he's leaving, he means there is no confirmation that he won't get paid his 100,000 dollars, which is not mentioned at all on DCG's site.
Imagine having all programs on your system store all their configuration information in one consistent place - or just one place for systemwide stuff and one place for each user's local configs. Imagine if all the configuration files had the same format.
I'm a Canadian and I've neevr heard of this at all. But regardless, our limestone deposits are held mainly in the sparsly populated region around the Hudson bay, if I am not incorrect.
Some 90% of Canadians live within some 5% of the contry, a thin strip running along the US border. Most of our natural resources though are further north, where there aren't many people. So this limestone affect probably isn't a major issue, since very few would be affected.
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I haven't gotten the mouse working yet, but I've only been futzing with it for a few minutes, so it's probably just me.
Serioulsly, who among us wants to spend the time downloading a 40 meg game, then have to "futz around with it" for it to work? I don't think I would ever bother, let alone average Joe windows user. Until Linux developers realise that most PC users don't get as much joy out of messing with ther PC's as they do, Linux will remain as a non-majority OS.
If you developed a piece of software for windows, and after installation, the mouse didn't work, most people wouldnt try to "futz around with it", theyd take it back to the store and say its broken. Which is totally correct, because it IS broken. If a piece of software doesn't work perfectly right after instalation, its not finished.
The Open Source community really has to work harder at hammering down "final" versions of products and making sure that developer releases are really developer releases. Allowed to download and use, but clearly marked as for testing only, not general use.
If you're a Canadian, why are you voting in the AMerican election?
(For the record, I'm a Canadian too, and I wholeheatredly agree with you, although I've never agreed with the PC platform, and support Reform's much more strongly).
Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I have never seen it discussed on/....
How will the UCITA affect shrink-wrap agreements in other countries? I live in Canada, and I really do not see how a law passed in congress (or wherever;) ) can apply to me. Are there international agreements which would allow the US to enforce this law abroad?
While you are correct in saying that this does re-locate the emissions, your assumption that this is a Bad Thing is false. The internal Combustion engine is horribly inefficient compared to most modern power plants. Not to mention power plants could very well be using solar or hydro power to fuel these things.
A method by which items are delivered to the consumer prior to being ordered, or ever actually even wanted. The consumer is then responsible for returning the merchandise if it is not desired, at their own expense of course. As expected, even though the product has been unsolicited by the consumer, all intellectual property rights to the product remain sole property of the company, including it's physical ocnstruction, and the product may not be reverse engineered in any way.
Oh yeah, DeCSS will not last on the net if it's outlawed....
Just like warez, illegal MP3's, cracks, illegal stolen passwords to porn sites, Illegal copies of books....etc etc..
Man, get your head out of the sand and look at all the illegal stuff on the net. Just because something is illegal in the US doe snot make it so in the rest of the world.
Until CD's are no longer sold, NOTHING, not SDMI, not WMA, not micropayments, will stop the trading of MP3's. As long as someone can rip the CD and encode it and share it, why pay for it? That's the logic of the masses, and thats what the RIAA has to fight. The only way this will ever be over is for CD's to be abolished. And I don't see that happening any time soon.
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Are thse daemons *.EXE files that can also run as a windows executable? No? I didn't think so.
Not one track, but a whole CD works fine
From everything I rea din this article, these schemes prevent the ripping of audio data from a CD, since there is extra data that confuses the TOC so that CDROM drives cannot read it. While this will keep your ripping program from working, I do not see how this would prevent the burning of a CD. A simple raw copy using dd or some other command would copy the raw data from the CD, no filesystem or format necessary. Then it is a simple matter of burning that image to a CD. I fail to see how there is any prevention of copying in this.
If the UK won't grant it, then they'll just take their business elsewhere.
You don't understand the concept. If these practices aren't patentable in the UK, then patents made elseware aren't enforcable to UK buisnesses either. So UK buisnesses (and any others that decide to re-locate to the UK) are free to use "one click shopping" or "floatable toolbars" in whatever they want, with no fear of repercussions. I would think this will be a big boon to buisness in the UK.
The DMCA has totally no effect outside the US's borders, so this is a null issue.
Mod this up, he is 100% correct!
Too bad Maxtor has owned Quantum outright for awhile now.
http://www.quantum.com/quantum/pc/pr/pr00100401.h
I have no idea who originally created this, but I always log into these NY Times articles with the username/password of slashdot2000/slasshdot200.
Just a reminder / heads-up.
Forget the fact that this is awesome for console gamers for the moment, consider the news about a week ago that someone has released a Dreamcast NetBSD ISO. With Broadband, a whole new bunch of possibilities open up (remote boot, remote X Terms) that would make the dreamcast an EXTRMEELY small, powerful, and usefull device, once the correct modules and drivers have been hacked for it.
He doesn't mean that there's no confirmation that he's leaving, he means there is no confirmation that he won't get paid his 100,000 dollars, which is not mentioned at all on DCG's site.
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Imagine having all programs on your system store all their configuration information in one consistent place - or just one place for systemwide stuff and one place for each user's local configs. Imagine if all the configuration files had the same format.
I.E. The Windows95/98 Registry???
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Some 90% of Canadians live within some 5% of the contry, a thin strip running along the US border. Most of our natural resources though are further north, where there aren't many people. So this limestone affect probably isn't a major issue, since very few would be affected.
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I haven't gotten the mouse working yet, but I've only been futzing with it for a few minutes, so it's probably just me.
Serioulsly, who among us wants to spend the time downloading a 40 meg game, then have to "futz around with it" for it to work? I don't think I would ever bother, let alone average Joe windows user. Until Linux developers realise that most PC users don't get as much joy out of messing with ther PC's as they do, Linux will remain as a non-majority OS.
If you developed a piece of software for windows, and after installation, the mouse didn't work, most people wouldnt try to "futz around with it", theyd take it back to the store and say its broken. Which is totally correct, because it IS broken. If a piece of software doesn't work perfectly right after instalation, its not finished.
The Open Source community really has to work harder at hammering down "final" versions of products and making sure that developer releases are really developer releases. Allowed to download and use, but clearly marked as for testing only, not general use.
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Disregard my previous post, I'ts a littile early here...
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From above...
for pure hackable fun, the book-pc (search google, there's lotsa hits) is my choice.
What the hell are you talking about? this guy said he had LOTS of hits
Someone mod this wacko down
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Stupied question but...
If you're a Canadian, why are you voting in the AMerican election?
(For the record, I'm a Canadian too, and I wholeheatredly agree with you, although I've never agreed with the PC platform, and support Reform's much more strongly).
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Who needs a free car when you can get a free Airplane!
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Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I have never seen it discussed on /. ...
How will the UCITA affect shrink-wrap agreements in other countries? I live in Canada, and I really do not see how a law passed in congress (or wherever ;) ) can apply to me. Are there international agreements which would allow the US to enforce this law abroad?
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While you are correct in saying that this does re-locate the emissions, your assumption that this is a Bad Thing is false. The internal Combustion engine is horribly inefficient compared to most modern power plants. Not to mention power plants could very well be using solar or hydro power to fuel these things.
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A method by which items are delivered to the consumer prior to being ordered, or ever actually even wanted. The consumer is then responsible for returning the merchandise if it is not desired, at their own expense of course. As expected, even though the product has been unsolicited by the consumer, all intellectual property rights to the product remain sole property of the company, including it's physical ocnstruction, and the product may not be reverse engineered in any way.
Wait a second, this MAY have been done already....
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How ironic that your petiton site is sponsored by amazon.com, one of the biggest stupid patent holders we discuss on Slashdot!
What are you thinking?
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Oh yeah, DeCSS will not last on the net if it's outlawed....
Just like warez, illegal MP3's, cracks, illegal stolen passwords to porn sites, Illegal copies of books....etc etc..
Man, get your head out of the sand and look at all the illegal stuff on the net. Just because something is illegal in the US doe snot make it so in the rest of the world.
I don't see where. This is just a rehash of the AP article linked to in the story.
Until CD's are no longer sold, NOTHING, not SDMI, not WMA, not micropayments, will stop the trading of MP3's. As long as someone can rip the CD and encode it and share it, why pay for it? That's the logic of the masses, and thats what the RIAA has to fight. The only way this will ever be over is for CD's to be abolished. And I don't see that happening any time soon.
What, several demonstarations by companies such as Toshiba, Dell, Compaq, etc, and products scheduled to ship this year aren't good enough for you?