Roughly 15 ft. tall and 40 ft. long. This speciman is the earlist example that is believed to be part of the tyranasourous family (distant relative to T. Rex). LOTS of evolution (sorry designing) happened between those two examples.
Just how much life insurance do you suppose would be sold if nobody had died in the past 20 years? Life insurance as protection against financial loss due to death is only valuable if people die. Indemnification against lawsuits from 3rd parties is only valuable if these lawsuits have occured or are likely to occur.
Thats exactly why I think this will have value to many people. It seems like every day you open the paper you read about another company is being sued for some type of IP infringement. Now if you had to pay for this protection I think it would have to be pretty likely to happen to make this worth it, but since it costs nothing (directly at least) it has value no matter how remote the chance of needing it. One thing to rember is the upper managment love nothing more than to CYA. This is where it will have value (even though the real value is zero or next to zero).
Of course, now that MS has upped the limit the motivation to sue 3rd party MS developers has increased by a lot. It's probably not too far fetched to say that MS's actions have increased the likelyhood of MS developers being sued now that there are deeper pockets behind them.
Unless I completely missed something in the article, this is completely wrong!;-) MS isn't offering any type of liability coverage here (if you sue a MS developer you can get to MS's cash). MS is simply offering to cover the legal fees associated with fighting the suit. So the amount a plaintif could collect is still limited to whatever the little developer has, but that little developer just basically got unlimited funds to put forward a kick-ass legal defense to fight you.
Their indemnification is a worthless gesture until I see a company sued for using Microsoft software, and Microsoft indemnifies themm, as opposed to Microsoft being the plaintiff.
Thats like saying life insurance is worthless until your dead. While true (and why I don't have much), many people still find plenty of value in the comfort that they are protected "just in case".
Seperatly about your reference "opposed to Microsoft being the plaintiff", I always hear stuff like that here but only ever hear about MS being the one getting sued. Does anyone know of cases where MS was the plainfiff in a patent case? Just wondering if its a common and true thing or just another/. urban legand.
Now, I wouldn't argue that one bit. I was just counting direct military involvment when doing to the comparison between Iran and the USA. If you'd like to extend this to we certainly can, but it even gets more lopsided. Even if we only consider hostilities where the US has "advisors" with boots on the ground (Afganistan/U.S.S.R types of things) it would probably double thier list. If you want to expand "involvement" to include providing weapons, money, support for one side (or both for that matter), the the US has literally be involved in EVERY conflict I can think of since the fall of the Shah.
Now all that said, I'm not trying to paint Iran as some kind of warm and fuzzy little puppy or something. I'm just trying to put it all in perspective. This is the is the same completely detached from reality talk and ideas that were being spread before the Iraq invasion. "OMG mushroom clouds will kill your kids if we don't invade!!!". I'm certainly a bit worried this is where this is leading again. I have no idea where this mis-information starts (while I do, but don't want to start a complete flame war), but the OP's statement sounding like Iran was some rabid country attacking everyone at the drop of a hat is just SOOOO far detached from reality its scary. Thier only direct involvement in a war was when they were INVADED. Besides that, sure they may be supporting some people we don't like (no proof of this has ever been offered mind you its just one of those WMD things people seem to take for granted now), but come on! Glass houses and stones and stuff like that.
I preface this by saying I know I'm being anal (sorry);-)
c++/cli is NOT descended from c or c++. Its descended from net.
I'd have to disagree with that. At least if we are to consider c++ a descendant of c, than calling c++/cli a descendant of c++ could certainly be valid while calling it a descendant of.NET really doesn't make any sense.
.NET is a common langage runtime, common type system, meta-data about assemblies and thier internals, etc. In a nut-shell you can consider.NET a virtual machine. While that is not at all acurate in the VMWare sense of the word, in the JVM sense its probably as accurate as can be without going into huge detail.
Anyway, the point is.NET is anything but a "language" like c, c++, FORTRAN, ect though.NET does include Common Intermediate Language (CIL), it is the equivelent to Java byte-code and not really a langange as a developer would think of it. Since.NET is NOTHING like c++/cli, I don't see how you can consider it a descendant of.NET.
Think about it like OOP. If an object B inherits from another object A than object B will have all the same properties, methods, etc as object A. Object B will have some extra stuff and may override some of the original objects stuff, but basically Object B is Object A with "extensions". In that sense c++ may be a descendant of c and c++/cli may be a descedant of c++ (but certainly not.NET).
Now perhaps a better name for this would be something like c++.NET as what these extensions mainly do is provide the c++ lanange (or at least MS's version of it) with an interface to the.NET environment and in fact I think that would perhaps be more clear and help resolve this situation. However, with MS calling everything xxx.NET perhaps they are trying to kick that habbit;-)
I don't buy that for a minute. Every high schooler I know plays plenty of games. If the statement is that high school kids are less and less interested in Nintendo, that I'd believe (haven't seen one of those in a while). XBox, PlayStation, and PC games seem to have no shortage of high school audience.
There is no spooky action at a distance because there is no distance between particles. This is not the same as saying that the distance is zero; distance simply does not exist: it is abstract.
Ah ha! So that is how to Tolan's were able to communicate so quickly with the Knocks from Earth after thier world had been destroyed!
Well, I completely agree with that! The sooner we can get Pat Robertson under wraps, the better. We've already seen how his wailings tend to brainwash people en masse.
in a government has historically indicated a tendency to unprovoked war
Examples please? Since the US backed gov was ousted the ONLY war they've been involved in was the Iran/Iraq war. Of course that war was started when Iraq invaded Iran (with US backing). In the same time period the US has had over 20 armed conflicts.
Operation Eagle Claw (1980)
Gulf of Sidra Incidents (1981, 1989)
Lebanon Peacekeeping (1982-1984)
Operation Urgent Fury (Grenada) (1983)
Libyan Patrol Boats (Jan-Mar 1986)
Operation El Dorado Canyon (15 April 1986)
Operation Earnest Will (1987-1988)
Operation Prime Chance (1987-1988)
Operation Praying Mantis (1988)
Operation Golden Pheasant (1988)
USS Vincennes shootdown of Iran Air Flight 655 (1988)
Operation Just Cause (Panama) (1989)
Persian Gulf War (1990-1991)
Iraqi No-Fly Zones (1991-2003)
Operation Provide Comfort (1991-1996)
Somali Civil War (1992-1995)
Battle of Mogadishu (1993)
Operation Uphold Democracy (Haiti) (1994)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (as member of IFOR and SFOR peacekeeping forces, 1995--)
Operation Infinite Reach (strikes on Sudan and Afghanistan, 1998)
Kosovo War (NATO operations, 1999)
Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) (2001--)
Operation Iraqi Freedom (Second Persian Gulf War) (2003--)
Haiti Rebellion (2004)
So sorry, what is the historical tendencies you were speaking of again?
It's not the only reason, but it's a darn good one.
Serious? No really... are you really saying that the threat of cartoons is a "darn good" reason? If so, I guess thats the point of our disagreement. I happen to not get that worked up about cartoons and think that is the message we should be sending. Perhaps, I'm completely mis-reading the importance of cartoons should be in our current geo-political environment? But for all I care, Iran could publish cartoons of Jesus giving Mohammad a blow job while Budda is giving it to him up the ass. Offensive? Sure as hell! Something to kill people over? Not a chance in hell! I guess you side with the Muslims on the importance of these cartoon. I don't. I think people should have the freedom of expression even if it happens to offend some people.
And its not just Bush I think is wrong here. Everyone from leaders of Muslim nations spreading this to owners of European papers firing people for this are all wrong and stupid in my book. Its just the Iran comics / Bush reaction is too much for me. The moment I'd heard Iran was planning this, I thought great!!!! We can show them what it is to value free expression. How you can be offended without blowing things out of proportion. What an opportunity! We can lead by example!.....In those thoughts, I guess I momentarily forgot who our leader was.
If there's anything that this is proving, it's that the crazies are not in the minority here. 500,000 people chanting "death to america, death to israel?"
You are very misinformed (which is admittedly not your fault as the US news it trying to make it sound exactly like the way you are taking it). This "demonstration against the cartoons" is actually just an annaul holy event. You go there next year, you'll see roughly the same number of people marching there. Its just that some of the Islamic radical leaders are getting up in front of this crowd and railing against the cartoons and shouting things like "death to America".
Of course a headline saying "1/2 Million Muslims attend demonstration chanting 'death to America'" sounds much more exciting than "Annual Shia religious event draws 1/2 million where a few radical leaders condem America". I'll let you guess which one American news organizations (I use that term loosely) will lead the evening news with.
OK first of all, I completely agree with you. Thier reaction to thier protrail by reacting exactly how they were protrayed would be funny if it wasn't soo sad.
The hypocrisy I found even more troubling (I mean aren't we supposed to be above this) was when Iran announced they were sponsoring a cartoon contest depicting the Holocaust. What does good old GWB have to say about it???
"Thats another reason we cannot allow them to have nucular weapons".
Dude!!!! Are you serious?!?!?!?!?!? And we are worried about them over-reacting to something as silly as a cartoon. The possibility of other cartoons are why a country shouldn't have nucular weapons??? I thought the message we should perhaps be sending is that we value freedom of speech and its just a cartoon. No big deal, we need to learn to accept that sometimes we may be offended without going off the deep end.
But is that the message the brilliant GWB sends? No, no, no. He dicides to take the other approach I guess that cartoons are critiacally important and should drive foriegn policy and international relations. Again... funny if not so sad:-(
Bottom line is these 14th century nitwits armed with modern technology are a danger to everyone for their ease of manipulation and lack of reason when it comes to anything remotely regarding Islam.
I really doubt Moslems are going to survive in their form for another 50 years.Oh...I was with you right up till the part about "Moslems". I thought you were talking about Bush and Co.
I mean Google told the US Government that they wouldn't turn over search records!
To be a bit more accurate, Google has just challenged the order to turn over those records because they don't believe the order was legal. However, if a judge rules against them I can promise you they will comply with the order.
us in the west who do not see political dissidents (at least I hope we don't...) as criminals.
Well, we are always told that such people are giving hope and support to the terrorists. Since any support to terrorits is a crime, strickly speaking they are criminals. Its just that Bush hasn't decided to lock anyone up for it (yet... at least that we've heard of).
OK we need to send some RIAA lobbiests over to China to straighten that country out! Doesn't China realize that its corporations who are supposed to threaten and strong-arm the government, not the other way around!!!!
If the question is actually just about how many.NET compilers has MS written, then the answer is just the handful you've already heard of. The thing to remember about.NET is, as you alluded to, its is a published "standard". MS has never planned to write tons of.NET compilers. They released the spec to the.NET community so 3-rd parties can implement any.NET compilers the community demands. Besides the the MS stuff the only 3-rd party one I've played with was the COBOL compiler (provided by Fujitsu) just to have a bit of a flashback to the bad old days;-)
Besides that I've heard of people using.NET compilers for LISP, PHP, Perl, Pyton, etc. Here is a list I'd seen (but it is about a year old)
I agree. I'd like to know more about what technologies were used for the "rule-based" AI. I guess, I'd assume they are using BizTalk? It would have been interesting to hear a bit more about it.
I am interested in how MS Speech Server works, is it hard to program against?
I've played with this out of curiousity the first time about a month ago and was absolutly AMAZED! Now I'd never done any real voice recognition/voice synthisis programming before (unless you count some 1/2 assed playing around with MS Agents which I don't), so maybe it has been this easy for awhile (I really don't know) but I was floored at how easy it was.
It is more or less like developing a normal VB or C# application. If you are just doing really simple stuff, the whole damn thing can basically be done via drag-and-drop. If you need to get more advanced of course you can dig into the code (mostly XML actually) to refine stuff. Another nice this is you do all this right in the VS.NET IDE. So if you are used to that its all pretty easy.
I repeat that I've no real experience in other voice-enabled development environment so perhaps they are all this easy or others are much more powerful. As a first-timer expecting much complexity in VR work, I was completly blown away at how really trivial MS Speech Server and the related tools made it.
Could this actually mean that well intentioned christians are actually beginning to crawl out from under the thumb of the right-wing extremists like Dobson, Robertson, Bush, etc?
I know this is only a small beginning and may be offering false hope, but at least its better than the complete lack of any hope for American socieity I'd been feeling recently.
Conversely, there is no god given right to protect your works either. Copyright is an entirely legal (and fairly recent) construct.
While that is true, methods besides copyright have been around for as long as humans. Its just that in todays society its frawned upon to just whack people over the head with a club if they take your shit.
RoverDaddy, had the AC's posts blocked so didn't see the thread you were in effect responding to. When it comes to what was begin mentioned (saying compatible with a product), I really have no idea how protected a trademark is so you could well be correct about that. Sorry for not reading everything before responding;-)
Wrong, no consent for that type of usage is required. Consider that competitors mention each other's trademarks in advertising all the time. Do you think they get prior consent for that?
Coke can say they beat Pepsi in a national taste test, however, Coke can't say thier products IS Pepsi. That is the difference. Not much BitTorrent can do if someone makes a clients and says its better than BitTorrent, but BitTorrent can go after them if they say they ARE a BitTorrent client.
See this is the problem. OSS kicks ass. It kicks ass because we GIVE each other the right to use, modify, and redistribute the code. There is no God given right that allows you to lay claim to the works of others...nor should there be. If they give you that right cool, but remember they are not evil because they choose not to.
Perhaps the post most deserving of mod points I've seen in a while.
I think that probably "could" be acceptable sharing, but then you'd have to look at what is the time limit? If its 999 years, this limit is pretty meaningless. So that just makes things more arbitrary. 5 days is OK but 6 is illegal type stuff.
Of course RMS is against DRM so I doubt he'd agree with it anyway.
Roughly 15 ft. tall and 40 ft. long. This speciman is the earlist example that is believed to be part of the tyranasourous family (distant relative to T. Rex). LOTS of evolution (sorry designing) happened between those two examples.
Just how much life insurance do you suppose would be sold if nobody had died in the past 20 years? Life insurance as protection against financial loss due to death is only valuable if people die. Indemnification against lawsuits from 3rd parties is only valuable if these lawsuits have occured or are likely to occur.
;-) MS isn't offering any type of liability coverage here (if you sue a MS developer you can get to MS's cash). MS is simply offering to cover the legal fees associated with fighting the suit. So the amount a plaintif could collect is still limited to whatever the little developer has, but that little developer just basically got unlimited funds to put forward a kick-ass legal defense to fight you.
Thats exactly why I think this will have value to many people. It seems like every day you open the paper you read about another company is being sued for some type of IP infringement. Now if you had to pay for this protection I think it would have to be pretty likely to happen to make this worth it, but since it costs nothing (directly at least) it has value no matter how remote the chance of needing it. One thing to rember is the upper managment love nothing more than to CYA. This is where it will have value (even though the real value is zero or next to zero).
Of course, now that MS has upped the limit the motivation to sue 3rd party MS developers has increased by a lot. It's probably not too far fetched to say that MS's actions have increased the likelyhood of MS developers being sued now that there are deeper pockets behind them.
Unless I completely missed something in the article, this is completely wrong!
Their indemnification is a worthless gesture until I see a company sued for using Microsoft software, and Microsoft indemnifies themm, as opposed to Microsoft being the plaintiff.
/. urban legand.
Thats like saying life insurance is worthless until your dead. While true (and why I don't have much), many people still find plenty of value in the comfort that they are protected "just in case".
Seperatly about your reference "opposed to Microsoft being the plaintiff", I always hear stuff like that here but only ever hear about MS being the one getting sued. Does anyone know of cases where MS was the plainfiff in a patent case? Just wondering if its a common and true thing or just another
Now, I wouldn't argue that one bit. I was just counting direct military involvment when doing to the comparison between Iran and the USA. If you'd like to extend this to we certainly can, but it even gets more lopsided. Even if we only consider hostilities where the US has "advisors" with boots on the ground (Afganistan/U.S.S.R types of things) it would probably double thier list. If you want to expand "involvement" to include providing weapons, money, support for one side (or both for that matter), the the US has literally be involved in EVERY conflict I can think of since the fall of the Shah.
Now all that said, I'm not trying to paint Iran as some kind of warm and fuzzy little puppy or something. I'm just trying to put it all in perspective. This is the is the same completely detached from reality talk and ideas that were being spread before the Iraq invasion. "OMG mushroom clouds will kill your kids if we don't invade!!!". I'm certainly a bit worried this is where this is leading again. I have no idea where this mis-information starts (while I do, but don't want to start a complete flame war), but the OP's statement sounding like Iran was some rabid country attacking everyone at the drop of a hat is just SOOOO far detached from reality its scary. Thier only direct involvement in a war was when they were INVADED. Besides that, sure they may be supporting some people we don't like (no proof of this has ever been offered mind you its just one of those WMD things people seem to take for granted now), but come on! Glass houses and stones and stuff like that.
I preface this by saying I know I'm being anal (sorry) ;-)
.NET really doesn't make any sense.
.NET a virtual machine. While that is not at all acurate in the VMWare sense of the word, in the JVM sense its probably as accurate as can be without going into huge detail.
.NET is anything but a "language" like c, c++, FORTRAN, ect though .NET does include Common Intermediate Language (CIL), it is the equivelent to Java byte-code and not really a langange as a developer would think of it. Since .NET is NOTHING like c++/cli, I don't see how you can consider it a descendant of .NET.
.NET).
.NET environment and in fact I think that would perhaps be more clear and help resolve this situation. However, with MS calling everything xxx.NET perhaps they are trying to kick that habbit ;-)
c++/cli is NOT descended from c or c++. Its descended from net.
I'd have to disagree with that. At least if we are to consider c++ a descendant of c, than calling c++/cli a descendant of c++ could certainly be valid while calling it a descendant of
.NET is a common langage runtime, common type system, meta-data about assemblies and thier internals, etc. In a nut-shell you can consider
Anyway, the point is
Think about it like OOP. If an object B inherits from another object A than object B will have all the same properties, methods, etc as object A. Object B will have some extra stuff and may override some of the original objects stuff, but basically Object B is Object A with "extensions". In that sense c++ may be a descendant of c and c++/cli may be a descedant of c++ (but certainly not
Now perhaps a better name for this would be something like c++.NET as what these extensions mainly do is provide the c++ lanange (or at least MS's version of it) with an interface to the
I don't buy that for a minute. Every high schooler I know plays plenty of games. If the statement is that high school kids are less and less interested in Nintendo, that I'd believe (haven't seen one of those in a while). XBox, PlayStation, and PC games seem to have no shortage of high school audience.
your boss can't contradict the NSA, can he?
;-)
Not on the phone, thats for sure!
There is no spooky action at a distance because there is no distance between particles. This is not the same as saying that the distance is zero; distance simply does not exist: it is abstract.
Ah ha! So that is how to Tolan's were able to communicate so quickly with the Knocks from Earth after thier world had been destroyed!
Well, I completely agree with that! The sooner we can get Pat Robertson under wraps, the better. We've already seen how his wailings tend to brainwash people en masse.
in a government has historically indicated a tendency to unprovoked war
Examples please? Since the US backed gov was ousted the ONLY war they've been involved in was the Iran/Iraq war. Of course that war was started when Iraq invaded Iran (with US backing). In the same time period the US has had over 20 armed conflicts.
Operation Eagle Claw (1980)
Gulf of Sidra Incidents (1981, 1989)
Lebanon Peacekeeping (1982-1984)
Operation Urgent Fury (Grenada) (1983)
Libyan Patrol Boats (Jan-Mar 1986)
Operation El Dorado Canyon (15 April 1986)
Operation Earnest Will (1987-1988)
Operation Prime Chance (1987-1988)
Operation Praying Mantis (1988)
Operation Golden Pheasant (1988)
USS Vincennes shootdown of Iran Air Flight 655 (1988)
Operation Just Cause (Panama) (1989)
Persian Gulf War (1990-1991)
Iraqi No-Fly Zones (1991-2003)
Operation Provide Comfort (1991-1996)
Somali Civil War (1992-1995)
Battle of Mogadishu (1993)
Operation Uphold Democracy (Haiti) (1994)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (as member of IFOR and SFOR peacekeeping forces, 1995--)
Operation Infinite Reach (strikes on Sudan and Afghanistan, 1998)
Kosovo War (NATO operations, 1999)
Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) (2001--)
Operation Iraqi Freedom (Second Persian Gulf War) (2003--)
Haiti Rebellion (2004)
So sorry, what is the historical tendencies you were speaking of again?
It's not the only reason, but it's a darn good one.
Serious? No really... are you really saying that the threat of cartoons is a "darn good" reason? If so, I guess thats the point of our disagreement. I happen to not get that worked up about cartoons and think that is the message we should be sending. Perhaps, I'm completely mis-reading the importance of cartoons should be in our current geo-political environment? But for all I care, Iran could publish cartoons of Jesus giving Mohammad a blow job while Budda is giving it to him up the ass. Offensive? Sure as hell! Something to kill people over? Not a chance in hell! I guess you side with the Muslims on the importance of these cartoon. I don't. I think people should have the freedom of expression even if it happens to offend some people.
And its not just Bush I think is wrong here. Everyone from leaders of Muslim nations spreading this to owners of European papers firing people for this are all wrong and stupid in my book. Its just the Iran comics / Bush reaction is too much for me. The moment I'd heard Iran was planning this, I thought great!!!! We can show them what it is to value free expression. How you can be offended without blowing things out of proportion. What an opportunity! We can lead by example!.....In those thoughts, I guess I momentarily forgot who our leader was.
If there's anything that this is proving, it's that the crazies are not in the minority here. 500,000 people chanting "death to america, death to israel?"
You are very misinformed (which is admittedly not your fault as the US news it trying to make it sound exactly like the way you are taking it). This "demonstration against the cartoons" is actually just an annaul holy event. You go there next year, you'll see roughly the same number of people marching there. Its just that some of the Islamic radical leaders are getting up in front of this crowd and railing against the cartoons and shouting things like "death to America".
Of course a headline saying "1/2 Million Muslims attend demonstration chanting 'death to America'" sounds much more exciting than "Annual Shia religious event draws 1/2 million where a few radical leaders condem America". I'll let you guess which one American news organizations (I use that term loosely) will lead the evening news with.
OK first of all, I completely agree with you. Thier reaction to thier protrail by reacting exactly how they were protrayed would be funny if it wasn't soo sad.
:-(
The hypocrisy I found even more troubling (I mean aren't we supposed to be above this) was when Iran announced they were sponsoring a cartoon contest depicting the Holocaust. What does good old GWB have to say about it???
"Thats another reason we cannot allow them to have nucular weapons".
Dude!!!! Are you serious?!?!?!?!?!? And we are worried about them over-reacting to something as silly as a cartoon. The possibility of other cartoons are why a country shouldn't have nucular weapons??? I thought the message we should perhaps be sending is that we value freedom of speech and its just a cartoon. No big deal, we need to learn to accept that sometimes we may be offended without going off the deep end.
But is that the message the brilliant GWB sends? No, no, no. He dicides to take the other approach I guess that cartoons are critiacally important and should drive foriegn policy and international relations. Again... funny if not so sad
Bottom line is these 14th century nitwits armed with modern technology are a danger to everyone for their ease of manipulation and lack of reason when it comes to anything remotely regarding Islam. I really doubt Moslems are going to survive in their form for another 50 years.Oh...I was with you right up till the part about "Moslems". I thought you were talking about Bush and Co.
Its funny, relax!!!
I mean Google told the US Government that they wouldn't turn over search records!
To be a bit more accurate, Google has just challenged the order to turn over those records because they don't believe the order was legal. However, if a judge rules against them I can promise you they will comply with the order.
us in the west who do not see political dissidents (at least I hope we don't...) as criminals.
Well, we are always told that such people are giving hope and support to the terrorists. Since any support to terrorits is a crime, strickly speaking they are criminals. Its just that Bush hasn't decided to lock anyone up for it (yet... at least that we've heard of).
OK we need to send some RIAA lobbiests over to China to straighten that country out! Doesn't China realize that its corporations who are supposed to threaten and strong-arm the government, not the other way around!!!!
If the question is actually just about how many .NET compilers has MS written, then the answer is just the handful you've already heard of. The thing to remember about .NET is, as you alluded to, its is a published "standard". MS has never planned to write tons of .NET compilers. They released the spec to the .NET community so 3-rd parties can implement any .NET compilers the community demands. Besides the the MS stuff the only 3-rd party one I've played with was the COBOL compiler (provided by Fujitsu) just to have a bit of a flashback to the bad old days ;-)
.NET compilers for LISP, PHP, Perl, Pyton, etc. Here is a list I'd seen (but it is about a year old)
.NET .NET
Besides that I've heard of people using
ANTLR Parser Generator
BOO
Chrome (OPascal)
COBOL
Coco/R (The Compiler Generator)
Delphi
Delta Forth
F#
Fortran - Lahey/Fujitsu
Lisp
Mercury
Mondrian
Nemerle
Oberon (Pascal)
P#: A concurrent Prolog for
Perl Dev Kit
PerlASPX
Python (IronPython)
Scheme (Bigloo)
Scheme (Tachy)
Smallscript's S# (ssharp/s-sharp) Language
SML.NET
Visual Basic.NET
Visual C#
Visual J#
More info about any of these are available here but like I said it hasn't been updated in a while.
I agree. I'd like to know more about what technologies were used for the "rule-based" AI. I guess, I'd assume they are using BizTalk? It would have been interesting to hear a bit more about it.
I am interested in how MS Speech Server works, is it hard to program against?
I've played with this out of curiousity the first time about a month ago and was absolutly AMAZED! Now I'd never done any real voice recognition/voice synthisis programming before (unless you count some 1/2 assed playing around with MS Agents which I don't), so maybe it has been this easy for awhile (I really don't know) but I was floored at how easy it was.
It is more or less like developing a normal VB or C# application. If you are just doing really simple stuff, the whole damn thing can basically be done via drag-and-drop. If you need to get more advanced of course you can dig into the code (mostly XML actually) to refine stuff. Another nice this is you do all this right in the VS.NET IDE. So if you are used to that its all pretty easy.
I repeat that I've no real experience in other voice-enabled development environment so perhaps they are all this easy or others are much more powerful. As a first-timer expecting much complexity in VR work, I was completly blown away at how really trivial MS Speech Server and the related tools made it.
I'd just read the article below before seeing this as well.
86 Evangelical Leaders Join to Fight Global Warming
Could this actually mean that well intentioned christians are actually beginning to crawl out from under the thumb of the right-wing extremists like Dobson, Robertson, Bush, etc?
I know this is only a small beginning and may be offering false hope, but at least its better than the complete lack of any hope for American socieity I'd been feeling recently.
Conversely, there is no god given right to protect your works either. Copyright is an entirely legal (and fairly recent) construct.
While that is true, methods besides copyright have been around for as long as humans. Its just that in todays society its frawned upon to just whack people over the head with a club if they take your shit.
RoverDaddy, had the AC's posts blocked so didn't see the thread you were in effect responding to. When it comes to what was begin mentioned (saying compatible with a product), I really have no idea how protected a trademark is so you could well be correct about that. Sorry for not reading everything before responding ;-)
Wrong, no consent for that type of usage is required. Consider that competitors mention each other's trademarks in advertising all the time. Do you think they get prior consent for that?
Coke can say they beat Pepsi in a national taste test, however, Coke can't say thier products IS Pepsi. That is the difference. Not much BitTorrent can do if someone makes a clients and says its better than BitTorrent, but BitTorrent can go after them if they say they ARE a BitTorrent client.
See this is the problem. OSS kicks ass. It kicks ass because we GIVE each other the right to use, modify, and redistribute the code. There is no God given right that allows you to lay claim to the works of others...nor should there be. If they give you that right cool, but remember they are not evil because they choose not to.
Perhaps the post most deserving of mod points I've seen in a while.
I think that probably "could" be acceptable sharing, but then you'd have to look at what is the time limit? If its 999 years, this limit is pretty meaningless. So that just makes things more arbitrary. 5 days is OK but 6 is illegal type stuff.
Of course RMS is against DRM so I doubt he'd agree with it anyway.