OK chief;-) Your first post: Only one guy in the shop knows anything about.NET, and he's not a fan of it. I don't intend to waste my time learning it, because it's dead-end technology for a dying platform.
Your next post: No... I *am* the guy who knows about.NET live and in person. I don't just idly speculate on Slashdot; I do this stuff for a living.
So you begin by refering to yourself I guess in the 3rd person since "he's not a fan of it" is actually refering to yourself. Hey whatever floats your boat, haven't lost all creditbility yet. However, then you go into this little beauty: "I don't intend to waste my time learning it...... I *am* the guy who knows about.NET......I don't just idly speculate on Slashdot".
OK, so you refuse to learn it but you already know it ummm, ya know that thing I said about creditiblity a bit ago.... forget it. Its gone;-)
No, what the articles is saying is those people who develop and release BitTorrent clients but when you install thier BT client you also get AdWare/Spyware/etc installed (think other P2P clients like original Kaza, etc) cannot use the name BitTorrent to describe thier client application.
But they aren't including the fact that not only will the Revo be backwards compatible with the GC, but it will allow you to download and run games from the last 20 years of Nintendos consoles. So long as these games are reasonably priced, under $5, I think that Nintendo will probably have a big advantage over the competitors.
Yes, cause nothing motivates me to go out and spend a few hundred bucks on a new console like the ability to play games I was bored with and through away 5-10 years ago;-)
Wish I had mod points! Exactly correct, langauge really means nothing and I find this lists about as worthless as can be. Technology changes fast enough as it is, you don't need to make it worse by spending your career constantly chasing around the "hot" new programming language hoping you'll make a few extra grand a year!
Rule number 1) gain a solid understanding of computer, programming, design, network fundimentals. I doesn't matter if its Linux/Windows, Java/C++/.NET, etc, etc.
Once you have this solid foundation to build on then decide what industry segment you'd enjoy working in and learn that business segment inside and out.
I know as techies we often don't like dealing with getting our selfs "dirty" dealing with the business, we just like the tech but that will lead to a frustrating career in my opinion. Programming is becoming easier and easier, there is getting to be less and less value in being able to program any certain langauge, you can spend you entire life jumping between industries chasing the a few extra bucks in the lastest langauge or become an expert in an industry (where the real money is). When I'm looking to hire someone I couldn't care less what languages they know! As long as they are decent programmer its easy to teach them a new langange. Whats much more difficult is teaching them the fine points of our industry. So be it finance, retail, manufacturing, gaming, ect, etc. I think knowing a busniess well is much more important than what langauge you know.
He don't need no stinking lists! He once talked to a guy who once sat next to a guy who's brother read the VS.NET EULA! Live and in person!!! 'nuff said! Do not question his authoritaaaaa!
Google (unlike almost all other tech companies) don't give thier own quarterly projections, so incomplete information or not, the analysts projections were the only projections out there (unless individual some investors did thier own), and thus were relied upon when coming to a valuation. Stock prices aren't set based on last quarters performance, but on next quarters perforance. If the final numbers come in under best available projects (based on full information or not), you will see a correction.
Now this doesn't mean the company is in trouble or that is outlook isn't even perhaps better today than it was a quarter ago. It is simply a market based reality. If your performance is under the best projection that people used to value the stock, the stock will correct to account for that unless another outside force counters that.
The patents here have already been scrutinized by a district court and upheld as valid and infringed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the district court specifically DOES NOT have any say on whether or not a patent is valid (they can only rely on the patents current status with the USPO. So the the USPO has granted a valid patent, the court doesn't do any scrutinizing on whether its valid or not, it just decides if it was infringed upon. The courts must rule based on the assumption the patent is valid cause it just ain't thier job to decide either way.
Exactly my thoughts!!! In fact why limit it to business? Aren't these same congressmen (who are obviously just media whoring BTW) also the ones that have granted China "most favored" trading status? Isn't it a bit hypicritical to bitch about private enterprise doing business with China when the US is falling all over itself trying to work out trade agrements with them knowing full well those in power (and benefiting from those agreements) will continue to squash freedom?
All that said, I think China is its own country and can do what it damn well pleases (within reason) so I don't really care if MS/Google/Yahoo want to do business there. It just seems outragous that these politions are out whoring for the camera faining discust as they basically do the same thing (I know I should be used to it by now).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think anyone was anywhere near having a land-based anti-missile system for surface-to-surface missiles.
Isn't that exactly what the Patrait systems did (and did fairly well even 10 years ago)? Its the complexities of intercepting an ICBM which is the real problem.
Well, they also got 14,000 pages of documentation and 500 hours of support! What does the EU really want??? Why not just quite screwing around and tell MS that if any other companies want to build competing products it is MS's responsibility to build it for them?
A "no comment" would have been one thing. The quote that got me was:
Normally speaking, the source code is not the ultimate documentation of anything," she said. [This is] precisely the reason why programmers are required to provide comprehensive documentation to go along with their source code.
OK, lost all respect right there. So she's thinking the source code is just a rough approximation of what the program does while the documentation actually defines what it does or something???????
What if that money that they made was spent on curing Malaria in Africa, or some similar beneficial endeavour? Wouldn't that lighten this already-grey area slightly?
No, that actually makes you more evil because its horrible marketing bullshit. Or have you missed the typical/. reply to the Gates Foundation?;-)
...all the techs that are in widespread use and far superior to those that were predicted in Sci-Fi. You know, like the collection you're using right now to read this.
Right!!!! You might think/. is far superior to a space ship with warp drive and a hot andriod woman, but I'm not with ya on that brother;-)
I'm now where near that trusting of Apple (or any corp), but if this system allows me to avoid a little kid trying to get me to buy a 3 year-extended warrenty on a pencil and then hands me a 30ft long receipt (when only buying a pencil), then sign me up!!!! You can have my info, if you save me from that crap. (Best Buy you annoying bastards!!!)
Ya know, in criminal cases things like insanity are affermitive defenses and the defendant has to prove he is insane. I think I'd enjoy the corporations "i didn't know" defense a lot more if it they REALLY had to go out and prove "no, we really are that stupid!".;-)
Some of the Enron/WorldCom guys are doing this now and though I hope they don't get off, at least its entertaining.
It's a tax, in the sense that if you want to interoperate with the rest of the office and the business world you have no realistic choice
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here so excuse me if I'm missing the point. Anyway, I can see two ways this can be read.
1) You require MS software for what you do (I guess there are cases where this is true), so you are forced to buy MS software
OK, in that case I guess you can call it a MS tax but no more so than can complain about paying a paper tax if you for some reason need paper or a Coke tax if for some reason you need a can of Coke (or add anything else you see as a requirement to this list of examples).
2) You see it as a requirement to buy from the likes of Dell, HP, etc in order to interoperate with the business world.
OK, I support a local PC builder so I don't have to pay such a tax on the bare-bones systems I buy (though I do also by Win boxes) and I'm still able to send/recieve email, browse the web, interact with vendor web services, etc, etc, etc. So either buying from Dell etc is just easier and thats your reason (in which case you are paying a lazy tax) or you aren't aware of the options (and you are paying a stupid tax) or you've looked around and found the other options are more expensive (in which case I guess your MS tax is actually more of a tax rebate).
All the software needed to run the disks will come with the player...There is no "software issue."
Completely agree and thats what I actually meant, but perhaps didn't state it very well. That need to install something seperate (either on disc or download) is what this will all boil down to and thats what I meant by "software issue". Obviously, you will be able to play Blu-Ray on windows, just MS might use this need for extra software to say BR isn't 100% Win compliant, or some other such nonsense and use that fact to pressure builders to support HD-DVD so it "just works". And yes, I agree they are probably doing all this just to screw with Sony;-)
Microsoft *should* be supporting ALL hardware on their OS by default
I have a feeling it isn't that hardware that is the issue (just my speculation). But doesn't Blu-Ray use java for its interactive content system? We all know the fights and head-aches about can MS include a jvm? Is MS forced to include a jvm? What version does it have to be? etc, etc, etc? With HD-DVD I belive the interactive content is run my a MS system iHD so obviously its pretty easy for them to support. Now they don't like Sony much I guess and I'm sure that plays into it, but as far as what they OS supports I think its more of a software issue than a hardware issue.
The United States was not a threat to North Korea until it began developing nuclear weapons and long-range missile technologies, selling those technologies to other nations (Iran, for instance), and threatening its neighbors with complete obliteration.
In the above statement, replace North Korea with Pakistan and it will be factually correct. Of course, Pakistan is useful to us for the moment so all those activities are fine even though Pakistan won't even arrest the man responsible for selling these things because he is a national hero. Sorry, got lost for a moment. Whats the problem with North Korea again?
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OK chief ;-) Your first post: .NET, and he's not a fan of it. I don't intend to waste my time learning it, because it's dead-end technology for a dying platform.
.NET live and in person. I don't just idly speculate on Slashdot; I do this stuff for a living.
.NET......I don't just idly speculate on Slashdot".
;-)
Only one guy in the shop knows anything about
Your next post:
No... I *am* the guy who knows about
So you begin by refering to yourself I guess in the 3rd person since "he's not a fan of it" is actually refering to yourself. Hey whatever floats your boat, haven't lost all creditbility yet. However, then you go into this little beauty: "I don't intend to waste my time learning it...... I *am* the guy who knows about
OK, so you refuse to learn it but you already know it ummm, ya know that thing I said about creditiblity a bit ago.... forget it. Its gone
No, what the articles is saying is those people who develop and release BitTorrent clients but when you install thier BT client you also get AdWare/Spyware/etc installed (think other P2P clients like original Kaza, etc) cannot use the name BitTorrent to describe thier client application.
But they aren't including the fact that not only will the Revo be backwards compatible with the GC, but it will allow you to download and run games from the last 20 years of Nintendos consoles. So long as these games are reasonably priced, under $5, I think that Nintendo will probably have a big advantage over the competitors.
;-)
Yes, cause nothing motivates me to go out and spend a few hundred bucks on a new console like the ability to play games I was bored with and through away 5-10 years ago
Wish I had mod points! Exactly correct, langauge really means nothing and I find this lists about as worthless as can be. Technology changes fast enough as it is, you don't need to make it worse by spending your career constantly chasing around the "hot" new programming language hoping you'll make a few extra grand a year!
Rule number 1) gain a solid understanding of computer, programming, design, network fundimentals. I doesn't matter if its Linux/Windows, Java/C++/.NET, etc, etc.
Once you have this solid foundation to build on then decide what industry segment you'd enjoy working in and learn that business segment inside and out.
I know as techies we often don't like dealing with getting our selfs "dirty" dealing with the business, we just like the tech but that will lead to a frustrating career in my opinion. Programming is becoming easier and easier, there is getting to be less and less value in being able to program any certain langauge, you can spend you entire life jumping between industries chasing the a few extra bucks in the lastest langauge or become an expert in an industry (where the real money is). When I'm looking to hire someone I couldn't care less what languages they know! As long as they are decent programmer its easy to teach them a new langange. Whats much more difficult is teaching them the fine points of our industry. So be it finance, retail, manufacturing, gaming, ect, etc. I think knowing a busniess well is much more important than what langauge you know.
What list/article were you looking at?
He don't need no stinking lists! He once talked to a guy who once sat next to a guy who's brother read the VS.NET EULA! Live and in person!!! 'nuff said! Do not question his authoritaaaaa!
So let me get this straight. They are saying a Bush appointee with no relavent experience is doing a poor job? Inconcievable!
Google (unlike almost all other tech companies) don't give thier own quarterly projections, so incomplete information or not, the analysts projections were the only projections out there (unless individual some investors did thier own), and thus were relied upon when coming to a valuation. Stock prices aren't set based on last quarters performance, but on next quarters perforance. If the final numbers come in under best available projects (based on full information or not), you will see a correction.
Now this doesn't mean the company is in trouble or that is outlook isn't even perhaps better today than it was a quarter ago. It is simply a market based reality. If your performance is under the best projection that people used to value the stock, the stock will correct to account for that unless another outside force counters that.
The patents here have already been scrutinized by a district court and upheld as valid and infringed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the district court specifically DOES NOT have any say on whether or not a patent is valid (they can only rely on the patents current status with the USPO. So the the USPO has granted a valid patent, the court doesn't do any scrutinizing on whether its valid or not, it just decides if it was infringed upon. The courts must rule based on the assumption the patent is valid cause it just ain't thier job to decide either way.
Exactly my thoughts!!! In fact why limit it to business? Aren't these same congressmen (who are obviously just media whoring BTW) also the ones that have granted China "most favored" trading status? Isn't it a bit hypicritical to bitch about private enterprise doing business with China when the US is falling all over itself trying to work out trade agrements with them knowing full well those in power (and benefiting from those agreements) will continue to squash freedom?
All that said, I think China is its own country and can do what it damn well pleases (within reason) so I don't really care if MS/Google/Yahoo want to do business there. It just seems outragous that these politions are out whoring for the camera faining discust as they basically do the same thing (I know I should be used to it by now).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think anyone was anywhere near having a land-based anti-missile system for surface-to-surface missiles.
Isn't that exactly what the Patrait systems did (and did fairly well even 10 years ago)? Its the complexities of intercepting an ICBM which is the real problem.
Hey, I thought it looked familiar ;-) Well it was 16 hours since the original was posted, so I WAS about time to remind everybody ;-)
You really have no idea what entrapment is do you? ;-) Did you just think it sounded cool?
Well, they also got 14,000 pages of documentation and 500 hours of support! What does the EU really want??? Why not just quite screwing around and tell MS that if any other companies want to build competing products it is MS's responsibility to build it for them?
A "no comment" would have been one thing. The quote that got me was:
Normally speaking, the source code is not the ultimate documentation of anything," she said. [This is] precisely the reason why programmers are required to provide comprehensive documentation to go along with their source code.
OK, lost all respect right there. So she's thinking the source code is just a rough approximation of what the program does while the documentation actually defines what it does or something???????
What if that money that they made was spent on curing Malaria in Africa, or some similar beneficial endeavour? Wouldn't that lighten this already-grey area slightly?
/. reply to the Gates Foundation? ;-)
No, that actually makes you more evil because its horrible marketing bullshit. Or have you missed the typical
Anybody who thinks droping two cores on die in place of one will double performance is relying more on 1st grade math than engineering.
Yeah, the injured parties will get that but what do you suppose the lawyers who advise to settle get? My guess is $$$$$$!
...all the techs that are in widespread use and far superior to those that were predicted in Sci-Fi. You know, like the collection you're using right now to read this.
/. is far superior to a space ship with warp drive and a hot andriod woman, but I'm not with ya on that brother ;-)
Right!!!! You might think
I'm now where near that trusting of Apple (or any corp), but if this system allows me to avoid a little kid trying to get me to buy a 3 year-extended warrenty on a pencil and then hands me a 30ft long receipt (when only buying a pencil), then sign me up!!!! You can have my info, if you save me from that crap. (Best Buy you annoying bastards!!!)
Corporations pull this shit all the time.
;-)
Ya know, in criminal cases things like insanity are affermitive defenses and the defendant has to prove he is insane. I think I'd enjoy the corporations "i didn't know" defense a lot more if it they REALLY had to go out and prove "no, we really are that stupid!".
Some of the Enron/WorldCom guys are doing this now and though I hope they don't get off, at least its entertaining.
"The public does not need to be concerned that the CIA is tracking them. We're a bit busy to be doing that."
;-)
OK, does that quote from the 2002 case seem humorous to anyone else now with the recent revelation of what was keeping them so busy
It's a tax, in the sense that if you want to interoperate with the rest of the office and the business world you have no realistic choice
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here so excuse me if I'm missing the point. Anyway, I can see two ways this can be read.
1) You require MS software for what you do (I guess there are cases where this is true), so you are forced to buy MS software
OK, in that case I guess you can call it a MS tax but no more so than can complain about paying a paper tax if you for some reason need paper or a Coke tax if for some reason you need a can of Coke (or add anything else you see as a requirement to this list of examples).
2) You see it as a requirement to buy from the likes of Dell, HP, etc in order to interoperate with the business world.
OK, I support a local PC builder so I don't have to pay such a tax on the bare-bones systems I buy (though I do also by Win boxes) and I'm still able to send/recieve email, browse the web, interact with vendor web services, etc, etc, etc. So either buying from Dell etc is just easier and thats your reason (in which case you are paying a lazy tax) or you aren't aware of the options (and you are paying a stupid tax) or you've looked around and found the other options are more expensive (in which case I guess your MS tax is actually more of a tax rebate).
All the software needed to run the disks will come with the player...There is no "software issue."
;-)
Completely agree and thats what I actually meant, but perhaps didn't state it very well. That need to install something seperate (either on disc or download) is what this will all boil down to and thats what I meant by "software issue". Obviously, you will be able to play Blu-Ray on windows, just MS might use this need for extra software to say BR isn't 100% Win compliant, or some other such nonsense and use that fact to pressure builders to support HD-DVD so it "just works". And yes, I agree they are probably doing all this just to screw with Sony
Microsoft *should* be supporting ALL hardware on their OS by default
I have a feeling it isn't that hardware that is the issue (just my speculation). But doesn't Blu-Ray use java for its interactive content system? We all know the fights and head-aches about can MS include a jvm? Is MS forced to include a jvm? What version does it have to be? etc, etc, etc? With HD-DVD I belive the interactive content is run my a MS system iHD so obviously its pretty easy for them to support. Now they don't like Sony much I guess and I'm sure that plays into it, but as far as what they OS supports I think its more of a software issue than a hardware issue.
Sorry forgot to make one more point.
The United States was not a threat to North Korea until it began developing nuclear weapons and long-range missile technologies, selling those technologies to other nations (Iran, for instance), and threatening its neighbors with complete obliteration.
In the above statement, replace North Korea with Pakistan and it will be factually correct. Of course, Pakistan is useful to us for the moment so all those activities are fine even though Pakistan won't even arrest the man responsible for selling these things because he is a national hero. Sorry, got lost for a moment. Whats the problem with North Korea again?