From what I've seen and heard in regard to Warcraft 3, they seem to be focusing on making it some kind of bastardization between a RPG and a RTS (real time strategy). I sure hope they don't mess it up. The two sure don't sound like they mix well
To be perfectly honest, I'd have preferred to get Starcraft 2 instead. Starcraft was an epic masterpiece of a game, the only game I've spent more time playing than I have reading Slashdot. =)
Codename: Lisa
CPU: MC68000
CPU speed: 5 Mhz
FPU: None
motherboard RAM: 512 k
maximum RAM: 2MB (via 3rd party upgrade)
number of sockets: 2 -- lisa cards
minimum speed: n/a
ROM: 16k of diagnostic and bootstrap code present
L1 cache: n/a
L2 cache: n/a
data path: 16 bit
bus speed: 5 Mhz
slots: 3 Proprietary
SCSI: none
Serial Ports: 2 RS-232
Parallel Ports: 1 (dropped in Lisa 2/MacXL)
Floppy: 2 internal 871k 5.25" (400k Sony 3.5" in Lisa2/MacXL)
HD: 5 MB external (10MB in some configurations of Lisa 2/MacXL)
CD-ROM: none
Monitor: 12" 720 x 360 built-in (B/W)
Sound Input/Output: Continuously Variable Slope Demodulator (CVSD)
Ethernet: none
Gestalt ID: 2
power: 150 Watts
Weight: 48 lbs. Dimensions: 15.2" H x 18.7" W x 13.8" D
Min System Software: LisaOS
Max System Software: LisaOS/MacWorks
introduced: January 1983
terminated: August 1986
Thanks, David Craig
Named for one of its designer's daughters, the Lisa (pictured below left) was supposed to be the Next Big Thing. It was the first personal computer to use a Graphical User Interface. Aimed mainly at large businesses, Apple said the Lisa would increase productivity by making computers easier to work with. The Lisa had a Motorola 68000 Processor running at 5 Mhz, 1 MB of RAM two 5.25" 871k floppy drives, an external 5 MB hard drive, and a built in 12" 720 x 360 monochrome monitor. At $9,995 it was a plunge few businesses were willing to take. When the Macintosh came out in 1984 for significantly less money, it eroded the Lisa's credibility further. Realizing this, Apple released the Lisa 2 (pictured above right) at the same time as the Mac. The Lisa 2 cost half as much as the original, replaced the two 5.25" drives with a single 400k 3.5" drive, and offered configurations with up to 2 MB of RAM, and a 10 MB hard drive. In January 1985, the Lisa 2/10 was renamed the Macintosh XL, and outfitted with MacWorks, an emulator that allowed the Lisa to run the Mac OS. The XL was discontinued later that year.
It seems to me that Slashdot really enjoys posing stories about how Apple mess things up while simultaneously ignoring all the things they're doing right.
All the Apple-related news items these days seem to be
"RMS disapproves of Apple Public License"
"Apple sues (someone) over themes"
"Apple does something evil....(bla,bla,bla).
I believe Apple is doing its best to be a good member of the Open Source community while retaining corporate profits. It's certainly a completely different company from what it used to be back in the 90's.
So, hey, give them a break. However evil you regard Apple, it is certainly dwarfed by Microsoft.
Many people have stated their desire for a standard Python GUI. Tkinter comes moderately close -- it has stable versions for Windows and UNIX/X Window Sytem, and a passable MacOS version.
When they say "passable MacOS version", do they mean Classic or MOSX?
Yeah, all they have to do is build factories on the mainland in Manchuria and French Indo-China and Russia is theirs, along with India and the U.S. supported Chinese forces. =)
Maybe then the MS fanatics will laugh and say: didn't we always tell you Open Source is insecure (too?)..."
Why would people want to become MS fanatics? I don't think I've ever met one. At most, professional people think Windows is OK. Nobody fucking likes it. The only OS fanatics I know stem from Linux and Mac groups, respectively.
A: I think there is a lot of great stuff going on in Chicago. There are a lot of innovative users in the Chicago area, which is exciting. We have a lot of great partners. I'll be on stage with a company called Genesis [Consulting], which I'm very excited about. We have a local partner named Calypso [Systems]. We literally have dozens of partners doing very innovative work with customers here.
Why is it that every time I read an interview with someone from MS, I get the word 'innovate' thrown in my face in every other sentence? I remember a column in the Economist by Bill Gates, and naughty little Bill used the word no less than eleven times! I think MS is suffering from a serious inferiority complex. =)
If someone misunderstood the license, he had a responsibility to/tell/ them before they became dependent on the code.
Obviously, you're misunderstanding things seriously. It is the duty of a group using a piece of software to acquaint themselves properly with the license. The author has no *responsibility*, as you so kindly put it, to rectify their misunderstanding. If I release a piece of software under the GPL, someone misunderstands it and uses it for a closed-source program, I sue him! It wasn't my *responsibility* to point out to him the terms of the GPL at any point. It was his task to get acquainted with it when using my code.
I agree with you about the market forces choosing, but thats exactly what IS happening NOW! and they seem to favour the GPL over *BSD style licences so far judging by the rate of code released under each.
Hmm... I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that the GPL gets considerably more publicity, is openly championed here on Slashdot and has a raving religious code-fanatic preaching its virtues in public at every chance he gets?
John Buswell replied the following to his own article on imaclinux.net:I understand the concept, my problem is with calling it a donation and trying to present it in a way that tries to blur the line between donating to Mandrake and donating to open source projects. Out of the entire Mandrake distribution, I'd guess that less than 30% of it is actually work done by MandrakeSoft themselves, while the remaining 70% is work done by other open source projects. Up until now, I've seen MandrakeSoft's willingness to put their distribution up for free for all (unlike other vendors) was their good faith and good will towards the open souce community, and their way to contribute back in a big way. I mean after all, think of all the money they've made from retail sales and deployment of corporate solutions over the years. You don't see them sharing the spoils with various open source projects that make their distribution, sure I realise that is unpractical, but if they want to put up some kind of contribution page, they should have it state clearly that it is for people who don't want to purchase the retail and want to give back. Also eliminating the automatic price of $19.99 that pops up would show that they are not trying to sell something... I wonder if they are liable for tax on donations?
I'm a great Mac fan and I program quite a bit for MacOS in my spare time, but I can tell you all this:
Java in MacOS X is so slow it borders on being unusable
And this is on a G4/450 with 256MB RAM. Apple are going to have to do a lot better than this if they seriously want people to use Java for MOSX development.......I'm is not saying that Carbon or Cocoa are fast, either, they just happen to be above the line of usability.
I think there are times when giving up some of our privacy can have great benefit. You probably heard the famous story of the Iceland thing: In the country of Iceland, they agreed to have their genetic codes gone (into) and they tracked all this.
This is the president of USA's technical advisor? We Icelanders had our medical records submitted into a database via an opt-out scheme, not our genetic codes! In any case, I was and still am bitterly opposed to what deCODE is doing, and I've had my record and that of my family removed from the database.
He came up with a very bad example: People's personal information used for the profit of corporations.
Frankly, I sympathise very much with the 13 year old child.
Young teenagers are very impressionable and I can imagine that his idea of prison, probably as portrayed on television, would inspire terror in him. Nor can he have had a clear comprehension of the insignificance of his crime as computer criminals generally go to low-security prisons instead of being shipped off into the maximum-security jungle of thugs, rapists and murderers. This just goes to show how television can distort people's ideas of life.
I can easily imagine preferring to hang myself than going to prison and being raped in the shower by muscular thugs and stabbed with sharpened toothbrushes.
Almost every piece of hardware comes with MacOS drivers.
No. Oh, no. Definitely not. MOST definitely not. Try owning a Mac, and you'll quickly find out that this is NOT the case. Usually, youre stuck buying SCSI cards and Ethernet adapters at a bloated price from a select few 'vendors' who actually bothered to support the Mac.
Steve Jobs once said that he had no problem with Microsoft, aside from the fact that they lacked all taste.
Although I hate to credit Jobs with anything, he really hit the nail on the head that time.
Even if Microsoft became Open Source's greatest supporter and they'd port all their stuff to Linux, they still have no taste: I wouldn't use their stuff. =)
I may hate the music industry, but nothing can knock Microsoft from the top of my hate list.
I love computers. I love the damn things. I can stay awake for days just messing around with and tinkering with hardware/operating systems. Microsoft is the epitomy of bad taste. They've in many ways ruined the computer industry.
How often have I heard some ignorant relative ask me "What do you want to do with your life?" and I respond "Computers". Then I almost invariably get "Oooh....like Bill Gates!". That's the part where i shudder in horror and proceed to beating the relevant person with a very large brick.
If by PC you mean the IBM-compatible x86 Personal Computer, yes. If you mean "personal computer" as a generic term, I think Apple deserves more credit in that department. Microsoft merely played the cards right to ensure their dominance. They made no contribution to the computer industry as a whole.
"And then there is a raft of fast-growing newcomers, as yet known only to insiders, that are also hoping to get a big piece of the pie. BEA Systems, a Silicon Valley firm founded in 1995, is the most ambitious, with its plan to do for web services and e-commerce "what Microsoft has done for the PC", as chief executive Bill Coleman grandly puts it. "
Uhm....what Microsoft has done to the PC? You mean, fuck it over completely and turn it into a horrid, unusable piece of unstable manure?
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From what I've seen and heard in regard to Warcraft 3, they seem to be focusing on making it some kind of bastardization between a RPG and a RTS (real time strategy). I sure hope they don't mess it up. The two sure don't sound like they mix well
To be perfectly honest, I'd have preferred to get Starcraft 2 instead. Starcraft was an epic masterpiece of a game, the only game I've spent more time playing than I have reading Slashdot. =)
Hi there,
Heres www.Apple-History.com's info on the Lisa 2.
The Lisa/Lisa 2/Mac XL
Codename: Lisa
CPU: MC68000
CPU speed: 5 Mhz
FPU: None
motherboard RAM: 512 k
maximum RAM: 2MB (via 3rd party upgrade)
number of sockets: 2 -- lisa cards
minimum speed: n/a
ROM: 16k of diagnostic and bootstrap code present
L1 cache: n/a
L2 cache: n/a
data path: 16 bit
bus speed: 5 Mhz
slots: 3 Proprietary
SCSI: none
Serial Ports: 2 RS-232
Parallel Ports: 1 (dropped in Lisa 2/MacXL)
Floppy: 2 internal 871k 5.25" (400k Sony 3.5" in Lisa2/MacXL)
HD: 5 MB external (10MB in some configurations of Lisa 2/MacXL)
CD-ROM: none
Monitor: 12" 720 x 360 built-in (B/W)
Sound Input/Output: Continuously Variable Slope Demodulator (CVSD)
Ethernet: none
Gestalt ID: 2
power: 150 Watts
Weight: 48 lbs. Dimensions: 15.2" H x 18.7" W x 13.8" D
Min System Software: LisaOS
Max System Software: LisaOS/MacWorks
introduced: January 1983
terminated: August 1986
Thanks, David Craig
Named for one of its designer's daughters, the Lisa (pictured below left) was supposed to be the Next Big Thing. It was the first personal computer to use a Graphical User Interface. Aimed mainly at large businesses, Apple said the Lisa would increase productivity by making computers easier to work with. The Lisa had a Motorola 68000 Processor running at 5 Mhz, 1 MB of RAM two 5.25" 871k floppy drives, an external 5 MB hard drive, and a built in 12" 720 x 360 monochrome monitor. At $9,995 it was a plunge few businesses were willing to take. When the Macintosh came out in 1984 for significantly less money, it eroded the Lisa's credibility further. Realizing this, Apple released the Lisa 2 (pictured above right) at the same time as the Mac. The Lisa 2 cost half as much as the original, replaced the two 5.25" drives with a single 400k 3.5" drive, and offered configurations with up to 2 MB of RAM, and a 10 MB hard drive. In January 1985, the Lisa 2/10 was renamed the Macintosh XL, and outfitted with MacWorks, an emulator that allowed the Lisa to run the Mac OS. The XL was discontinued later that year.
Cheers,
It seems to me that Slashdot really enjoys posing stories about how Apple mess things up while simultaneously ignoring all the things they're doing right.
All the Apple-related news items these days seem to be
"RMS disapproves of Apple Public License"
"Apple sues (someone) over themes"
"Apple does something evil....(bla,bla,bla).
I believe Apple is doing its best to be a good member of the Open Source community while retaining corporate profits. It's certainly a completely different company from what it used to be back in the 90's.
So, hey, give them a break. However evil you regard Apple, it is certainly dwarfed by Microsoft.
Many people have stated their desire for a standard Python GUI. Tkinter comes moderately close -- it has stable versions for Windows and UNIX/X Window Sytem, and a passable MacOS version.
When they say "passable MacOS version", do they mean Classic or MOSX?
Well, what about MacOS X?
Anybody know anything about future Python support for the X as well as this anygui?
Yeah, all they have to do is build factories on the mainland in Manchuria and French Indo-China and Russia is theirs, along with India and the U.S. supported Chinese forces. =)
Gotta love Axis.
Maybe then the MS fanatics will laugh and say: didn't we always tell you Open Source is insecure (too?) ..."
Why would people want to become MS fanatics? I don't think I've ever met one. At most, professional people think Windows is OK. Nobody fucking likes it. The only OS fanatics I know stem from Linux and Mac groups, respectively.
A: I think there is a lot of great stuff going on in Chicago. There are a lot of innovative users in the Chicago area, which is exciting. We have a lot of great partners. I'll be on stage with a company called Genesis [Consulting], which I'm very excited about. We have a local partner named Calypso [Systems]. We literally have dozens of partners doing very innovative work with customers here.
Why is it that every time I read an interview with someone from MS, I get the word 'innovate' thrown in my face in every other sentence? I remember a column in the Economist by Bill Gates, and naughty little Bill used the word no less than eleven times! I think MS is suffering from a serious inferiority complex. =)
If someone misunderstood the license, he had a responsibility to /tell/ them before they became dependent on the code.
Obviously, you're misunderstanding things seriously. It is the duty of a group using a piece of software to acquaint themselves properly with the license. The author has no *responsibility*, as you so kindly put it, to rectify their misunderstanding. If I release a piece of software under the GPL, someone misunderstands it and uses it for a closed-source program, I sue him! It wasn't my *responsibility* to point out to him the terms of the GPL at any point. It was his task to get acquainted with it when using my code.
I agree with you about the market forces choosing, but thats exactly what IS happening NOW! and they seem to favour the GPL over *BSD style licences so far judging by the rate of code released under each.
Hmm... I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that the GPL gets considerably more publicity, is openly championed here on Slashdot and has a raving religious code-fanatic preaching its virtues in public at every chance he gets?
John Buswell replied the following to his own article on imaclinux.net:I understand the concept, my problem is with calling it a donation and trying to present it in a way that tries to blur the line between donating to Mandrake and donating to open source projects. Out of the entire Mandrake distribution, I'd guess that less than 30% of it is actually work done by MandrakeSoft themselves, while the remaining 70% is work done by other open source projects. Up until now, I've seen MandrakeSoft's willingness to put their distribution up for free for all (unlike other vendors) was their good faith and good will towards the open souce community, and their way to contribute back in a big way. I mean after all, think of all the money they've made from retail sales and deployment of corporate solutions over the years. You don't see them sharing the spoils with various open source projects that make their distribution, sure I realise that is unpractical, but if they want to put up some kind of contribution page, they should have it state clearly that it is for people who don't want to purchase the retail and want to give back. Also eliminating the automatic price of $19.99 that pops up would show that they are not trying to sell something... I wonder if they are liable for tax on donations?
I'm a great Mac fan and I program quite a bit for MacOS in my spare time, but I can tell you all this:
Java in MacOS X is so slow it borders on being unusable
And this is on a G4/450 with 256MB RAM. Apple are going to have to do a lot better than this if they seriously want people to use Java for MOSX development.......I'm is not saying that Carbon or Cocoa are fast, either, they just happen to be above the line of usability.
I think there are times when giving up some of our privacy can have great benefit. You probably heard the famous story of the Iceland thing: In the country of Iceland, they agreed to have their genetic codes gone (into) and they tracked all this.
This is the president of USA's technical advisor? We Icelanders had our medical records submitted into a database via an opt-out scheme, not our genetic codes! In any case, I was and still am bitterly opposed to what deCODE is doing, and I've had my record and that of my family removed from the database.
He came up with a very bad example: People's personal information used for the profit of corporations.
Frankly, I sympathise very much with the 13 year old child.
Young teenagers are very impressionable and I can imagine that his idea of prison, probably as portrayed on television, would inspire terror in him. Nor can he have had a clear comprehension of the insignificance of his crime as computer criminals generally go to low-security prisons instead of being shipped off into the maximum-security jungle of thugs, rapists and murderers. This just goes to show how television can distort people's ideas of life.
I can easily imagine preferring to hang myself than going to prison and being raped in the shower by muscular thugs and stabbed with sharpened toothbrushes.
Almost every piece of hardware comes with MacOS drivers.
No. Oh, no. Definitely not. MOST definitely not. Try owning a Mac, and you'll quickly find out that this is NOT the case. Usually, youre stuck buying SCSI cards and Ethernet adapters at a bloated price from a select few 'vendors' who actually bothered to support the Mac.
Oh, I get it!
So all of a sudden ALL the huge number of programmers that have contributed to Linux come from Finland, do they?
He is taking cars right out of all the big players (Apple, Intel, Cisco, Sun) parking lots!
I don't believe he'll be taking any cars from Apple employees. Apple returned profit last quarter and hasn't been laying off any employees.
I would like to congratulate the citizens of Denmark on their luck!
Christiania, and legal music ripping == I'm going
Hmm...
Getting rid of the GPL, what a worthy goal!
Steve Jobs once said that he had no problem with Microsoft, aside from the fact that they lacked all taste.
Although I hate to credit Jobs with anything, he really hit the nail on the head that time.
Even if Microsoft became Open Source's greatest supporter and they'd port all their stuff to Linux, they still have no taste: I wouldn't use their stuff. =)
I rip CD's at 12x with a G4/450 Sawtooth single processor.
Let's see how well your fancy PIII/450 does it.
Are you Jon Katz logged in under a different name? =)
I may hate the music industry, but nothing can knock Microsoft from the top of my hate list.
I love computers. I love the damn things. I can stay awake for days just messing around with and tinkering with hardware/operating systems. Microsoft is the epitomy of bad taste. They've in many ways ruined the computer industry.
How often have I heard some ignorant relative ask me "What do you want to do with your life?" and I respond "Computers". Then I almost invariably get "Oooh....like Bill Gates!". That's the part where i shudder in horror and proceed to beating the relevant person with a very large brick.
If by PC you mean the IBM-compatible x86 Personal Computer, yes. If you mean "personal computer" as a generic term, I think Apple deserves more credit in that department. Microsoft merely played the cards right to ensure their dominance. They made no contribution to the computer industry as a whole.
"And then there is a raft of fast-growing newcomers, as yet known only to insiders, that are also hoping to get a big piece of the pie. BEA Systems, a Silicon Valley firm founded in 1995, is the most ambitious, with its plan to do for web services and e-commerce "what Microsoft has done for the PC", as chief executive Bill Coleman grandly puts it. "
Uhm....what Microsoft has done to the PC? You mean, fuck it over completely and turn it into a horrid, unusable piece of unstable manure?