And I like nice interactive charts to represent the information and a nice layout that lets me find what I want easily.
I don't want to be trailing through pages of text, that would just suck!
That does indeed suck. I wonder why they would choose a company with bad design and accessibility skills to "design" the new site. Table based layout and Microsoft technologies? Awful!
Maybe they're Microsoft "certified" and some idiot thinks that's a good thing.
Can't we do something to help? Maybe set-up a server for them to communicate, have some extra ips at hand if anything gets blocked?
I feel bad for these people, surely we should be doing something?
You can make a website look good and still stick to standards. You just need to know how to do it correctly.
I'm building a website right now for a client http://bikingdirect.cogocreative.co.uk./ I have 1 css error that i'll fix and it passes the accessibility test. In an older browser it will simply show the text. It works in all modern browsers apart from ie6 (which i will fix with an ie only stylesheet).
You have no clue what you're talking about. Opera and Safari are far more standards compliant than Firefox or IE7. Firefox is more compliant than ie7 (as most of the important stuff is there) and IE7 is slightly better than IE6.
If people are building systems round ie6 and not standards, they get exactly what they've asked for.
Ooooooh that would be wonderful!!! I really really hate having too put in fixes for ie.
But then again, if you keep everyone on ie6 - they won't have any reason to think upgrading is a good thing! Or enjoy the benefits of user friendly websites:(
Most big websites have been fixed for IE7 anyway - the only ones that don't work are the really really old ones, build using word2000 and the export to web feature:)
I've been a web designer for 8 years now. The last few years i've been building to css and standards.
All I can say is:- I would enjoy my job much much more, if 50% of my time wasn't fixing IE bugs and having to include seperate styles for every version of IE.
I hate Microsoft for doing this to me. They had a chance to make it better with IE7, but they just fucked it up...again!!!
And to all you I.T folks out there. Get IE7 on all your machines, I'm fed up coding for the 30% of users in their offices still on IE6!!! Pleeaaasseee!!!!
I'm having the same problem with my bank. A few bounced direct debits and they have a field day.
Found this site www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk which gave me everything i need to get my money back.
Next i'm going after my previous bank who raped me of my cash during hard times.
I'm happy i can actually do something about it. To be honest, the banks deserve it!
Not to mention that it is a poor imitation of Gnome/Aqua/KDE
This is a joke right? Gnome and KDE (Not Aqua of course) are the most ugly non-streamlined GUI's available. I think anyone that actually thinks the gnome or kde desktop look nice seriously need their eyes tested!!!
Well, i take care of 100's of websites and i'm actually very happy MS are pusing it through as an auto update. However, alot of the css bug fixes are still not implemented, so for now on, im goin to put my ieonly div within the if[ie] command to display the following:
IE Fix
Your browser might not render the page as intended. Please upgrade to a css compliant browser like opera or firefox
You may laugh, but i feel i should stop catering for Microshafts incompetence, and the only way to do this, it to show Microshaft what happens when they create inferior products. I'm serious about this BTW!
I love avast. it's what i use. I found lots of problems with AVG not picking up a virus. And yeh, when i have infected myself, the boot-time scan goes down a treat.
I'm pretty sure, home basic (without the aero) is the version most likely version to be preinstaled on new machines. Very very stupid idea by Microsoft i reckon. Apple are just going to move in right in this spot with the fancy interfaces that microsoft customers WON'T be seeing. I guess it gives linux a chance too if anyone can come up with something more useable.
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Could be nice use of ajax to load everything on the fly - and not have to wait for flash or silverlight crap.
And I like nice interactive charts to represent the information and a nice layout that lets me find what I want easily. I don't want to be trailing through pages of text, that would just suck!
That does indeed suck. I wonder why they would choose a company with bad design and accessibility skills to "design" the new site. Table based layout and Microsoft technologies? Awful! Maybe they're Microsoft "certified" and some idiot thinks that's a good thing.
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Can't we do something to help? Maybe set-up a server for them to communicate, have some extra ips at hand if anything gets blocked? I feel bad for these people, surely we should be doing something?
Same here, i'm gone! The whole country has just went right down the shitter in the last 10 years, and it just keep getting worse.
You can make a website look good and still stick to standards. You just need to know how to do it correctly. I'm building a website right now for a client http://bikingdirect.cogocreative.co.uk./ I have 1 css error that i'll fix and it passes the accessibility test. In an older browser it will simply show the text. It works in all modern browsers apart from ie6 (which i will fix with an ie only stylesheet).
You have no clue what you're talking about. Opera and Safari are far more standards compliant than Firefox or IE7. Firefox is more compliant than ie7 (as most of the important stuff is there) and IE7 is slightly better than IE6.
If people are building systems round ie6 and not standards, they get exactly what they've asked for.
Was that not the sonic the hedgehog or mortal kombat cheat on the megadrive?
Ooooooh that would be wonderful!!! I really really hate having too put in fixes for ie. But then again, if you keep everyone on ie6 - they won't have any reason to think upgrading is a good thing! Or enjoy the benefits of user friendly websites :(
Most big websites have been fixed for IE7 anyway - the only ones that don't work are the really really old ones, build using word2000 and the export to web feature :)
I've been a web designer for 8 years now. The last few years i've been building to css and standards. All I can say is:- I would enjoy my job much much more, if 50% of my time wasn't fixing IE bugs and having to include seperate styles for every version of IE. I hate Microsoft for doing this to me. They had a chance to make it better with IE7, but they just fucked it up...again!!! And to all you I.T folks out there. Get IE7 on all your machines, I'm fed up coding for the 30% of users in their offices still on IE6!!! Pleeaaasseee!!!!
Well it's never ever going to be the gimp idea. Apple wins!!
This feature has been available in photoshop for years :)
oooh yer!!! it used to be free. Now valve charge $20 :(
Better than counterstrike?
I'm getting around 80% ie and 10% ff on e-commerce sites. 44% of the ie users are now using ie7 which is better than expected! I'm in UK btw.
well said :)
I'm having the same problem with my bank. A few bounced direct debits and they have a field day.
Found this site www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk which gave me everything i need to get my money back.
Next i'm going after my previous bank who raped me of my cash during hard times.
I'm happy i can actually do something about it. To be honest, the banks deserve it!
Not to mention that it is a poor imitation of Gnome/Aqua/KDE This is a joke right? Gnome and KDE (Not Aqua of course) are the most ugly non-streamlined GUI's available. I think anyone that actually thinks the gnome or kde desktop look nice seriously need their eyes tested!!!
Well, i take care of 100's of websites and i'm actually very happy MS are pusing it through as an auto update. However, alot of the css bug fixes are still not implemented, so for now on, im goin to put my ieonly div within the if[ie] command to display the following: IE Fix Your browser might not render the page as intended. Please upgrade to a css compliant browser like opera or firefox You may laugh, but i feel i should stop catering for Microshafts incompetence, and the only way to do this, it to show Microshaft what happens when they create inferior products. I'm serious about this BTW!
I love avast. it's what i use. I found lots of problems with AVG not picking up a virus. And yeh, when i have infected myself, the boot-time scan goes down a treat.
But that still looks really ugly :/
it's fugly. i hate fugliness!
I'm pretty sure, home basic (without the aero) is the version most likely version to be preinstaled on new machines. Very very stupid idea by Microsoft i reckon. Apple are just going to move in right in this spot with the fancy interfaces that microsoft customers WON'T be seeing. I guess it gives linux a chance too if anyone can come up with something more useable.
Only certain regions are actually photographed well enough for you to see anything decent. One thing i really hope they improve on.