Well, 1 meg xDSL is $40 a month, here in Ottawa, using the Nortel Networks 1-Meg-Modem. Very cool service, indeed. Also goes by the name of Sympatico HSE (high speed edition) and is sold by Bell.
We also have another competing company, @home, whose cable modem service is technically faster, $40 also a month, however, it is about 5~6K/s on an average day because they won't spend new money on servers even though the service is expanding at an incredible rate. Money grubbing !%#@#ers...:P You might as well just get a 56k modem and save the extra $20 a month.
As expected, I live on the outskirts, and neither is available to me. *sob.* Still pretty good for the 'back-woods' of Canada.
Hrm.... also kinda weird is the people who act amazed when I get connect speeds of 49333 on my 56k modems! New Yorkers and Torontonians feel lucky to get 28800 some days.;) I thought that was kind of cute.:)
Well, now that geek is chic (hahaha, yeah, right.;) I think I'm going to go patent the 'look and feel' of messy hair, dirty classes, raggy jeans and a T-shirt before somebody else does.
There is the small issue of precedence... but then again I could just say Nitrozac (After Y2K) was a former business parter and she stole *my* likeness for her comic strips, without paying me properly.
Ooh, this could be fun.;) If only I wasn't in Canada, where our patent office is sane. Or invisible. Not sure which.
Before you mark me down as flamebait, think of the statement you just made.
The vendor was doing his job; with this logic, you could also say Bill Gates should win the Nobel prize due to the fact "that average users can now install and run what was once a nightmare." Still is a nightmare, IMHO, but Linux isn't out of the woods yet.
Anyway, Neither Linus nor Mandrake warrants the Nobel Peace Prize, that's not what it is there for, but if anything, Linus is the father and central developer/focal point of the Linux effort, obviously. Perhaps more fitting would be the founders of the open source movement. GNU Fathers, anyone?
In any case, Nobel is more scientific theory affecting our interactions and undersanding of the world, not of computers.
Computers are but a small part of life, my friends.
....is it possible that the big players could direct some cash towards the general linux good, such askernal/driver development, the gnome/kde projects, and the like? (OK, I realize gnome is from rh, but...)
This way, the entire linux community can benefit. Right now, all I'm seeing is cash going to the big corporate players, and some of the less big, such as in the case, TurboLinux.
Is it me, or is it just that the corporates are buying into more corporate culture because they just don't understand the whole Linux philosophy?
All to often it seems that we're taking underinformed writers a bit too seriously. While Nikolai was entitled to his criticism (read: analysis. Too many critics write criticisms, or 'downers' on an original work. I remember studies of criticism where an author would properly analyze a work. Nikolai wrote a rebuttal, not a criticism.) and ESR was also quite entitled to his rebuttal of the rebuttal.;)
Anyway, back to the original point at hand- all to often we see people of the mentality of commercial+closed-source writers, or people never exposed to the OSS culture, dismiss OSS persons as being crackpots, loonies, morons, etc... etc... it's hard to write a factual document and trying o get a serious response from a person of this mindset...
...similarly, it can be a real pain to write an article with a closed source viewpoint without being flamed, en masse, by the OSS community.... while this is *not* true for the whole, the overwhelming bulk of rebuttal mail is embarassing.
So we have two options- be a closed source writer, and be dubbed closed minded, or be an open source advocate, and be ridiculed.
It's a crazy world, I think. In the mean time, I think I'm going to take a hot bath, while the world sorts itself inside my head. I'm not going to touch my computer for another.... oh, an hour will do it...
Does anyone know how long it will be until the RPMs will be made available on rpmfind.net? Hrm... I don't know if it exists in the closed source world yet- but a CHANGELOG would also be appreciated if someone would post it here. (Having just downloaded 4.61 two days ago, I need to know if it is worth it right now.)
No, actually, the company is one huge international IT department.:) It just happens that PHBs run rampant. Even PHBs, however, can be made to see the light. Usually, it involves ordering a $4,000 compaq server on company money, and then showing him the bill. The bill is cancelled, and you're sailing happily in unix-land. He basically willed the server to run on old retired hardware, and we had machines from last year's co-op students available... I didn't get a choice. I was told "make this do this." Oh. I'm glad it worked in the end, though.
I'm just convinced now that if you've got perl experience making scripts run on a unix platform, it's just PAINFUL making the scripts work in a windows box. Period. Especially if you have inadequate logging capabilities on that machine. Oh... and having an SMTP daemon which decides to kill itself after being resident for 15 minutes is also a big pain in the patootie.
Argh... I was working on an order desk server this summer at my job. We originally started off running IIS on... get this.... a P120. Yes, that's for a dynamic realtime ordering and electronic delivery server. AUGH!It was terrible. After performance issues and delivery problems, we eventually installed win 95 and Apache. (No, I was under orders. Augh. It was gross.) From there, I finally got it over to an unix box. One of my biggest complaints was that win32 sendmail, in it's various implementations was one of two things. a) Faulty or b)expensive. One option we tried was both. It was funny... after working for months trying to get everything to work seamlessly on windows, we gave up and brought one of those old HP-UX boxes out of retirement... and we were in full operation in 6 hours. Yes, *6.* I was kicking myself. I got three days off.
I have a few local stores that I visit.... one of them is extremelely pro-linux (There are many many more pro-windows stores, though. 'Linux? Is that for the new G3? Cause we don't sell Mac stuff...') Anyway, they have a mall display cabinet out in front of the store which has RedHat, Caldera, and Debian on it. Inside are rows and rows and rows of reference books, and there's a big bin of Tux dolls, and yet another rack of penguin paraphernalia. The microsoft products are the ones tucked in the corner of the store. Oh, and the best thing? They only sell equipment that works under a linux system. Other things that aren't compatible are in the M$-Corner. Oh, and the best thing? If you have a network card, and you want to DL something big like Star Office, just go on over and plug into their xDSL connection. They don't mind at all. I LOVE THESE GUYS!
It's seems like IPOs are being announced right and left... please, I need to be enlightened, along with the rest of the slashdot crowd, about IPOs and stock. I haven't been around long.... have high tech companies been releasing IPOs like crazy only recently, or is this a pretty non-fantastic phenomenon... and if it is only a recent thing, what did we do before IPOs? This whole thing is beginning to frighten me.
I remember being in the library where a guy was trying to download IDE cd-rom drivers for his laptop. Typing in "CD-Rom Drivers" sent him to one of those aforementioned pr0n sites. I recommended that he try the manufacturer's web site at http://www.nec.com.
...you can patent anything now, if you happen to get a not-so-bright patent official. Slashdot should patent online realtime news. Linus and the IPv6 kernel team should, well, patent IPv6. Who cares if this stuff is publicly owned and operated? Patent your right to intellectual property!
It all goes downhill from here, folks. Please leave your copyright at the door. Hey, leave your personal rights at the door, too.... we won't be neding them where we're going.
This whole thing really isn't good. Maybe our patent guidelines need to be reviewed.
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Well, 1 meg xDSL is $40 a month, here in Ottawa, using the Nortel Networks 1-Meg-Modem. Very cool service, indeed. Also goes by the name of Sympatico HSE (high speed edition) and is sold by Bell.
:P
;) I thought that was kind of cute. :)
We also have another competing company, @home, whose cable modem service is technically faster, $40 also a month, however, it is about 5~6K/s on an average day because they won't spend new money on servers even though the service is expanding at an incredible rate. Money grubbing !%#@#ers...
You might as well just get a 56k modem and save the extra $20 a month.
As expected, I live on the outskirts, and neither is available to me. *sob.* Still pretty good for the 'back-woods' of Canada.
Hrm.... also kinda weird is the people who act amazed when I get connect speeds of 49333 on my 56k modems! New Yorkers and Torontonians feel lucky to get 28800 some days.
Well, now that geek is chic (hahaha, yeah, right. ;) I think I'm going to go patent the 'look and feel' of messy hair, dirty classes, raggy jeans and a T-shirt before somebody else does.
;) If only I wasn't in Canada, where our patent office is sane. Or invisible. Not sure which.
There is the small issue of precedence... but then again I could just say Nitrozac (After Y2K) was a former business parter and she stole *my* likeness for her comic strips, without paying me properly.
Ooh, this could be fun.
Before you mark me down as flamebait, think of the statement you just made.
The vendor was doing his job; with this logic, you could also say Bill Gates should win the Nobel prize due to the fact "that average users can now install and run what was once a nightmare." Still is a nightmare, IMHO, but Linux isn't out of the woods yet.
Anyway, Neither Linus nor Mandrake warrants the Nobel Peace Prize, that's not what it is there for, but if anything, Linus is the father and central developer/focal point of the Linux effort, obviously. Perhaps more fitting would be the founders of the open source movement. GNU Fathers, anyone?
In any case, Nobel is more scientific theory affecting our interactions and undersanding of the world, not of computers.
Computers are but a small part of life, my friends.
(So there!)
....is it possible that the big players could direct some cash towards the general linux good, such askernal/driver development, the gnome/kde projects, and the like? (OK, I realize gnome is from rh, but...)
This way, the entire linux community can benefit. Right now, all I'm seeing is cash going to the big corporate players, and some of the less big, such as in the case, TurboLinux.
Is it me, or is it just that the corporates are buying into more corporate culture because they just don't understand the whole Linux philosophy?
Hrm... my thoughts for the day.
All to often it seems that we're taking underinformed writers a bit too seriously. While Nikolai was entitled to his criticism (read: analysis. Too many critics write criticisms, or 'downers' on an original work. I remember studies of criticism where an author would properly analyze a work. Nikolai wrote a rebuttal, not a criticism.) and ESR was also quite entitled to his rebuttal of the rebuttal. ;)
Anyway, back to the original point at hand- all to often we see people of the mentality of commercial+closed-source writers, or people never exposed to the OSS culture, dismiss OSS persons as being crackpots, loonies, morons, etc... etc... it's hard to write a factual document and trying o get a serious response from a person of this mindset...
...similarly, it can be a real pain to write an article with a closed source viewpoint without being flamed, en masse, by the OSS community.... while this is *not* true for the whole, the overwhelming bulk of rebuttal mail is embarassing.
So we have two options- be a closed source writer, and be dubbed closed minded, or be an open source advocate, and be ridiculed.
It's a crazy world, I think. In the mean time, I think I'm going to take a hot bath, while the world sorts itself inside my head. I'm not going to touch my computer for another.... oh, an hour will do it...
...I need some fresh air.
Does anyone know how long it will be until the RPMs will be made available on rpmfind.net? Hrm... I don't know if it exists in the closed source world yet- but a CHANGELOG would also be appreciated if someone would post it here. (Having just downloaded 4.61 two days ago, I need to know if it is worth it right now.)
No, actually, the company is one huge international IT department. :) It just happens that PHBs run rampant. Even PHBs, however, can be made to see the light. Usually, it involves ordering a $4,000 compaq server on company money, and then showing him the bill. The bill is cancelled, and you're sailing happily in unix-land. He basically willed the server to run on old retired hardware, and we had machines from last year's co-op students available... I didn't get a choice. I was told "make this do this." Oh. I'm glad it worked in the end, though.
I'm just convinced now that if you've got perl experience making scripts run on a unix platform, it's just PAINFUL making the scripts work in a windows box. Period. Especially if you have inadequate logging capabilities on that machine. Oh... and having an SMTP daemon which decides to kill itself after being resident for 15 minutes is also a big pain in the patootie.
Argh... I was working on an order desk server this summer at my job. We originally started off running IIS on... get this.... a P120. Yes, that's for a dynamic realtime ordering and electronic delivery server. AUGH!It was terrible. After performance issues and delivery problems, we eventually installed win 95 and Apache. (No, I was under orders. Augh. It was gross.) From there, I finally got it over to an unix box. One of my biggest complaints was that win32 sendmail, in it's various implementations was one of two things. a) Faulty or b)expensive. One option we tried was both. It was funny... after working for months trying to get everything to work seamlessly on windows, we gave up and brought one of those old HP-UX boxes out of retirement... and we were in full operation in 6 hours. Yes, *6.* I was kicking myself. I got three days off.
I have a few local stores that I visit.... one of them is extremelely pro-linux (There are many many more pro-windows stores, though. 'Linux? Is that for the new G3? Cause we don't sell Mac stuff...')
Anyway, they have a mall display cabinet out in front of the store which has RedHat, Caldera, and Debian on it. Inside are rows and rows and rows of reference books, and there's a big bin of Tux dolls, and yet another rack of penguin paraphernalia. The microsoft products are the ones tucked in the corner of the store. Oh, and the best thing? They only sell equipment that works under a linux system. Other things that aren't compatible are in the M$-Corner. Oh, and the best thing? If you have a network card, and you want to DL something big like Star Office, just go on over and plug into their xDSL connection. They don't mind at all. I LOVE THESE GUYS!
It's seems like IPOs are being announced right and left... please, I need to be enlightened, along with the rest of the slashdot crowd, about IPOs and stock. I haven't been around long.... have high tech companies been releasing IPOs like crazy only recently, or is this a pretty non-fantastic phenomenon... and if it is only a recent thing, what did we do before IPOs? This whole thing is beginning to frighten me.
I remember being in the library where a guy was trying to download IDE cd-rom drivers for his laptop. Typing in "CD-Rom Drivers" sent him to one of those aforementioned pr0n sites. I recommended that he try the manufacturer's web site at http://www.nec.com.
...you can patent anything now, if you happen to get a not-so-bright patent official. Slashdot should patent online realtime news. Linus and the IPv6 kernel team should, well, patent IPv6. Who cares if this stuff is publicly owned and operated? Patent your right to intellectual property!
It all goes downhill from here, folks. Please leave your copyright at the door. Hey, leave your personal rights at the door, too.... we won't be neding them where we're going.
This whole thing really isn't good. Maybe our patent guidelines need to be reviewed.
Soon.
I guess we all owe Rob a hardy: "Rob, you rock!"
Thanks Rob.