Some progressive institutes are getting the hint as well...
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJR J8OVF&b=1468377
A societal benefit, needs social support. The amount of time and money saved by Cisco and others not re-inventing the wheel is enormous. It's amazing how economists can point out how we're better off outsourcing because things will become cheaper, and we'll be able to spend the "saved" money on other things, but then not conced the same point for software.
This could be obvious, but, most if not all Tier 1's employ ring topology in building their backbone infrastructure for enornous amounts of redundancy. That kind of redundancy couldn't be provided by almost any P2P network. The net isn't going down anytime soon, It's the potential filters which could be put in by them that is worrisome.
The answers to that are Encryption and Tor, when will they go mainstream?
What you're suggesting isn't a bad idea at all, it's what Cringely keeps saying Google will do.
Whatever is tried, needs to be tried earlier, if 7-10 isn't early enough, it's definitely too late by the time a woman gets to university to get her to change her mind or do it for the money.
Arts majors shouldn't ideally be looked down upon, but if they're looked down upon in the US, what chance do they have in a country like India or China. Parents actively discourage their kids from doing arts in those countries.
It's not so much that males are discriminated against, but women are given preferential treatment when they apply, to encourage them to take up engineering... A girl applying to umr[.edu] gets close to a full scholarship [$9k/yr], when male freshmen don't have it nearly that easy. We do have our share of the obnoxious male population, but then the scholarship isn't that bad either, and it doesn't get any better at UIUC, until you go to UofC or something.
Our ratio is 4:1 girl. We have every engineering major, including nuclear, but a very small humanities program. There'll be like 9 Humanities majors, 100 Science majors, and close to 500 engineering majors at our graduation. That's 9+60+50 girls respectively. We have this girl to guy ratio thing the worst in the country. We're the ones rated 1st or 2nd worst university by the students in the US News survey.
This isn't just a CS problem, this is a problem across most engineering disciplines. My linear system class in EE had 1 girl! The last year that the $9k/yr in financial aid (I know this from talking to the provost) has been offered to ALL girls, it got better, but then it always gets worse during the spring semester, noticeably so. It's hard to recruit women to do engineering. Women are either being socialized [thought a certain way to think] way too early, or it is nature, which might seem like the case in the US, but I'd argue the same about women in India too. That's just me.
Some women, I know 2, have copied their way through the 4 years of an undergrad degree, and gotten jobs way too easily, again compared to men. Their jobs are way too easy to be called CS jobs. Something is keeping women away, and it isn't the lack of jobs, and opportunity at the university level.
The question I posed was that of keeping an open society safe. The government has shown its willingness to take away our privacy to make society safe, what is the alternative to 1984? There is surely something that preserves Everyone's right to due process.
"Freedom is being able to do what you went when you want how you want without anyone knowing or denying anothers freedom."
The 'without anyone knowing part' can in no way be guaranteed to anyone, it is far from an inaliendable right spelled out in any bill of rights, please show me if it is, you added it on because you felt like it. your definition of freedom is thus just plain wrong, take out the without anyone knowing part and then we can start talking about positive and negative freedom/liberty.
I don't need privacy, 1/2 the people of the earth who live on less than $2/day don't have privacy. Privacy as a need is overrated, especially in your reply. You can have no privacy but still have freedom and liberty. See why I brought up the idea of a transparent society? Privacy rights are not egalatarian by nature. Why should corporations have the right to disect loads of consumer data, this data should surely be made open, why isn't there a bill in congress for this? I'm trying to make a strong case for equal privacy... movie stars have to buy privacy, does that help?
If you really want to argue this, I suggest you look up the definitions of positive and negative freedoms on wikipedia. Everyone having privacy infringes on my negative freedom/liberty. Hence again, maybe a semi-transparent society, where transparency is the rule, not the exception.
I am for privacy in the status quo, The government needs to earn my trust before I give up more of my privacy rights.
Good signature, I find you gain great insight when you strongly play devils advocate on point you feel strongly about.
A transparent society is worth thinking about, It could be more open and more free than we are. Until then, privacy will continue to be counted as a valuable negative freedom, one which lets everybody do less.
How do you protect an open society? We are caught in this conundrum where the government keeps infringing on our freedom and privacy as the only way to protect us, but we still keep calling it a free country when we aren't guaranteed the right to due process anymore thanks to the patriot act.
Thomas Friedman answered this question by saying we should spread hope, and not fear. He is as right as anyone else on this issue.
If you really want to get into the privacy issue, lets not talk about individuals, lets talk about ALL privacy, government privacy, corporate privacy... Privacy is a basic freedom. And guaranteeing privacy to certain factions i.e. government only increases the inequality. Lets have a truly transparent society or one where everyone has the same amount of privacy.
I do agree somewhat with Privacy != Freedom && Freedom != Privacy. In a transparent society you wouldn't call privacy a freedom. Since you would still have freedom. Freedom is something fundamentally different from privacy.
bad example... yesh. just wanted to use some prominent online real-estate as an example. The point that amaya isn't fully standards compliant is one I wasn't fully aware of, either that or the websites weren't.
The roads will facilitate faster car travel (130kph) than train travel (80kph), hopefully leading to faster trains. 220 miles in the US takes 3-4hrs by drive, The same distance takes 8-12 hrs (express train/other) by train in India. With this road it'll take maybe 4-6hrs? HUGE improvement over the trains. Some Japanese company tried to lease the railroads and offered to run their own trains on it, but the Indian government wouldn't let them. There will need to be faster trains if the true effects of this roads are to be realized, and for what you said in your first post to not be true. Enough indians have car now, although gasoline is expensive. Enough road building, make the trains faster now.
Why not connect Delhi to Chennai and Bombay to Calcutta? it could be the golden cross then, instead of the golden quadrilateral.
the practice of sati was started by american-led christian-missionaries... it is NOT an indian practice.
I will refrain from comparisions to the American christian fundamentalists who routinely ask for god to kill someone when it is to their benefit on TV (supreme court justices, venezuelan pm,...), It is a free country though, and therefore it is tolerated.
The leaders of those two states, are often made fun of by most of the public, lalo prasad yadav usually gets elected by buying votes. Whose most famous quote I think is "putting a dam on the river will take the life out of the water." The Communist parties are nothing to worry about. The leaders really are the best part of the government right now, the economist who has written text books, and a physicist. The bureaucracy and corruption is time consuming, but mainly, I think, because there are a billion people to be served. Provide better government salaries and most of that can be solved.
http://www.economist.com/countries/India/ almost every article there is worth a read. bihar votes for change, and the india china comparision is good too.
That is BS, if you're ever been to a 3rd world or a developing country, you can see how painfully slow it is to get around even the shortest distances, 30km, 100km.
The benefits of this will be almost totally civilian. Transportation is and should be a major government concern, not only a military one. When people realize they can go 130kph/80mph on the highway when the Indian trains will still be running 80-100kph, it'll lead to faster trains. and the same distance that takes 3 hrs in a car in the US, will hopefully not take 12 hrs in a train anymore.
Slashdot Mirror
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The remove pictures/save bandwidth feature has a use after all.
Shouldn't you seriously be arguing for Mac OSX on Dell's then...
There's some good NASA software I'd love to get my hands on.
Some progressive institutes are getting the hint as well... http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJR J8OVF&b=1468377
A societal benefit, needs social support. The amount of time and money saved by Cisco and others not re-inventing the wheel is enormous. It's amazing how economists can point out how we're better off outsourcing because things will become cheaper, and we'll be able to spend the "saved" money on other things, but then not conced the same point for software.
A king cannot be impeached, what part of that do you people not understand?
It's too funny to be flamebait...
"arguing the demand violated the privacy of users' Web searches and its own trade secrets."
seriously? I'm kissing the search history feature goodbye... Their only real defense is that there was no crime commited here.
This could be obvious, but, most if not all Tier 1's employ ring topology in building their backbone infrastructure for enornous amounts of redundancy. That kind of redundancy couldn't be provided by almost any P2P network. The net isn't going down anytime soon, It's the potential filters which could be put in by them that is worrisome.
The answers to that are Encryption and Tor, when will they go mainstream?
What you're suggesting isn't a bad idea at all, it's what Cringely keeps saying Google will do.
Whatever is tried, needs to be tried earlier, if 7-10 isn't early enough, it's definitely too late by the time a woman gets to university to get her to change her mind or do it for the money.
You are so correct about the last point...
Arts majors shouldn't ideally be looked down upon, but if they're looked down upon in the US, what chance do they have in a country like India or China. Parents actively discourage their kids from doing arts in those countries.
It's not so much that males are discriminated against, but women are given preferential treatment when they apply, to encourage them to take up engineering... A girl applying to umr[.edu] gets close to a full scholarship [$9k/yr], when male freshmen don't have it nearly that easy. We do have our share of the obnoxious male population, but then the scholarship isn't that bad either, and it doesn't get any better at UIUC, until you go to UofC or something.
Our ratio is 4:1 girl. We have every engineering major, including nuclear, but a very small humanities program. There'll be like 9 Humanities majors, 100 Science majors, and close to 500 engineering majors at our graduation. That's 9+60+50 girls respectively. We have this girl to guy ratio thing the worst in the country. We're the ones rated 1st or 2nd worst university by the students in the US News survey.
This isn't just a CS problem, this is a problem across most engineering disciplines. My linear system class in EE had 1 girl! The last year that the $9k/yr in financial aid (I know this from talking to the provost) has been offered to ALL girls, it got better, but then it always gets worse during the spring semester, noticeably so. It's hard to recruit women to do engineering. Women are either being socialized [thought a certain way to think] way too early, or it is nature, which might seem like the case in the US, but I'd argue the same about women in India too. That's just me.
Some women, I know 2, have copied their way through the 4 years of an undergrad degree, and gotten jobs way too easily, again compared to men. Their jobs are way too easy to be called CS jobs. Something is keeping women away, and it isn't the lack of jobs, and opportunity at the university level.
You know. It's bad when Americans are concerned about your freedom.
Good one.
The question I posed was that of keeping an open society safe. The government has shown its willingness to take away our privacy to make society safe, what is the alternative to 1984? There is surely something that preserves Everyone's right to due process. "Freedom is being able to do what you went when you want how you want without anyone knowing or denying anothers freedom." The 'without anyone knowing part' can in no way be guaranteed to anyone, it is far from an inaliendable right spelled out in any bill of rights, please show me if it is, you added it on because you felt like it. your definition of freedom is thus just plain wrong, take out the without anyone knowing part and then we can start talking about positive and negative freedom/liberty. I don't need privacy, 1/2 the people of the earth who live on less than $2/day don't have privacy. Privacy as a need is overrated, especially in your reply. You can have no privacy but still have freedom and liberty. See why I brought up the idea of a transparent society? Privacy rights are not egalatarian by nature. Why should corporations have the right to disect loads of consumer data, this data should surely be made open, why isn't there a bill in congress for this? I'm trying to make a strong case for equal privacy... movie stars have to buy privacy, does that help? If you really want to argue this, I suggest you look up the definitions of positive and negative freedoms on wikipedia. Everyone having privacy infringes on my negative freedom/liberty. Hence again, maybe a semi-transparent society, where transparency is the rule, not the exception. I am for privacy in the status quo, The government needs to earn my trust before I give up more of my privacy rights.
Good signature, I find you gain great insight when you strongly play devils advocate on point you feel strongly about.
A transparent society is worth thinking about, It could be more open and more free than we are. Until then, privacy will continue to be counted as a valuable negative freedom, one which lets everybody do less.
How do you protect an open society? We are caught in this conundrum where the government keeps infringing on our freedom and privacy as the only way to protect us, but we still keep calling it a free country when we aren't guaranteed the right to due process anymore thanks to the patriot act.
Thomas Friedman answered this question by saying we should spread hope, and not fear. He is as right as anyone else on this issue.
If you really want to get into the privacy issue, lets not talk about individuals, lets talk about ALL privacy, government privacy, corporate privacy... Privacy is a basic freedom. And guaranteeing privacy to certain factions i.e. government only increases the inequality. Lets have a truly transparent society or one where everyone has the same amount of privacy.
I do agree somewhat with Privacy != Freedom && Freedom != Privacy. In a transparent society you wouldn't call privacy a freedom. Since you would still have freedom. Freedom is something fundamentally different from privacy.
bad example... yesh. just wanted to use some prominent online real-estate as an example. The point that amaya isn't fully standards compliant is one I wasn't fully aware of, either that or the websites weren't.
The roads will facilitate faster car travel (130kph) than train travel (80kph), hopefully leading to faster trains. 220 miles in the US takes 3-4hrs by drive, The same distance takes 8-12 hrs (express train/other) by train in India. With this road it'll take maybe 4-6hrs? HUGE improvement over the trains. Some Japanese company tried to lease the railroads and offered to run their own trains on it, but the Indian government wouldn't let them. There will need to be faster trains if the true effects of this roads are to be realized, and for what you said in your first post to not be true. Enough indians have car now, although gasoline is expensive. Enough road building, make the trains faster now. Why not connect Delhi to Chennai and Bombay to Calcutta? it could be the golden cross then, instead of the golden quadrilateral.
I just have to agree with your last paragraph.
I agree...
the practice of sati was started by american-led christian-missionaries... it is NOT an indian practice. I will refrain from comparisions to the American christian fundamentalists who routinely ask for god to kill someone when it is to their benefit on TV (supreme court justices, venezuelan pm, ...), It is a free country though, and therefore it is tolerated.
The leaders of those two states, are often made fun of by most of the public, lalo prasad yadav usually gets elected by buying votes. Whose most famous quote I think is "putting a dam on the river will take the life out of the water." The Communist parties are nothing to worry about. The leaders really are the best part of the government right now, the economist who has written text books, and a physicist. The bureaucracy and corruption is time consuming, but mainly, I think, because there are a billion people to be served. Provide better government salaries and most of that can be solved. http://www.economist.com/countries/India/ almost every article there is worth a read. bihar votes for change, and the india china comparision is good too.
The autobahn-hugging crowd is as deep rooted in the german government as the NRA is in the American government.
That is BS, if you're ever been to a 3rd world or a developing country, you can see how painfully slow it is to get around even the shortest distances, 30km, 100km. The benefits of this will be almost totally civilian. Transportation is and should be a major government concern, not only a military one. When people realize they can go 130kph/80mph on the highway when the Indian trains will still be running 80-100kph, it'll lead to faster trains. and the same distance that takes 3 hrs in a car in the US, will hopefully not take 12 hrs in a train anymore.
You're right, but until those laws are enforced in a timely manner, without bribes. Only then will the benefits of the system help the billion people.