Why, Slashdotter's I'm suprised at YOU!
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So many of Slasdotter's so frequently espouse the virtues of socialisim, elitism, and liberlism, that, I'm suprised that many of you are not lauding this new all important globalism. You can't have it both ways, people. So line-up, recieve your biometric I.D.'s, trade in your Tee's and jeans for your Chairman Mao blues, and get on with life. He..he..and they laughed at me for refusing to fill out a Census.
I wonder why anyone purchases from Amazon.com (particularly computer books) in the first place. Apparently, they have excess disposable income. I go to Bestbookbuy.com and use their search engine, to ferret out prices from numerous resources. I have never found Amazon to be even closely competitive with any of the other retailers listed with bestbookbuy.com. Sometimes I even use Amazon's search engine and read the reviews of a particular book, then go to bestbookbuy and look up prices and availibility. On average, say for a book that retails $59 U.S., Amazon and B & N both, are never even closely competitive in price. I save a bundle on books (I buy alot of them), and redirect my funds from Amazon at the same time. Ain't it great?? Oh, and I'm polite too. I sent a thank you note to Amazon for use of their search engine, and reviews format, and explain why I'm buying elsewhere (the patent issue), yes on the rare occassion that Amazon is the only one that carries that particular book, or has it in stock, I pass, until I can find it elsewhere.
I guess it's because we're just so burnt out on saving European's asses, every time the fuck up. Or because our ancestors passed on gene's from delayed stress syndrom impacted psyhe's from all the combat they endured keeping your dumbasses free from dictators, etc. Now, why do you suck?
This only works for books, but I do it all the time. Makes me feel better anyway. I use Amazon's search engine,(good), read the reviews, then go to bestbookbuys.com. Type in the ISBN, Title or Keyword, and it lists the stores that carry your desired book, by price, lowest to highest. BTW, Amazon is never even near being competitive with the others, in price. I order my book(s). Then I e-mail Amazon, tell them where I got it, how much I paid, and thank them for the use of their search engine and great data base. I always tell them that they should patent something (usally stupid), but they get the point. They used to answer my e-mail, but not anymore. I can't figure that one out. Oh, No. Mr. Billllllll....
Although we are getting a little off-topic here, I think that you're not 100% correct in your assertion that C++ can't handle computational mathematics. Although not a expert in this area, I know a few who are. They use C++ extensively for scientific computation at AFIT, (Air Force Institute of Technology), and could probably help you out if you wish. Hell, they even use PYTHON, to some extent, with hellish embellishments and self written library's. If you're interested, e-mail Jbythelake@yahoo.com, and I'll give you my "real" e-mail address, and link you to them. I disagree with you on one point, though, for the years invested in learning C++, OOP, and proper design and use of the intended features, I'd probably stick to FORTRAN. Although I've only used it to a limited extent in engineering applications, and by no means extensive "brain-wracking" computations, it sure seems a lot more simple to use.
The first language I learned was BASIC. 2nd was Cobol, 3rd Fortran, and then C++. Although I'll never be awarded a Nobel prize for my programming skills, I guess I'm a fair C++ programmer. BTW, I skipped "traditional" C altogether. Funny thing is/was that, I didn't realize that C++ was too complex to be useful, taught properly, implemted correctly, etc..etc.. until somebody told me. Too late now. C++ and (OOP for anything larger than a couple of hundred lines of code) are basically all I know. Thanks for enlightening me on the deficiency of C++. Maybe I could go back and learn C and revert to strictly procedural paradigms.
I guess now, the LCD is that all slashdotter's are going to worship Gore, the golden internet cow, and "inventer of the internet", because his web server uses Linux. Yeah, flame-bait, so sue me. "I did not have sex with that server, VA". It depends on what your definition of an OS is.
Another point: When Microsoft parades Win2K, and you have hundreds of Linux advocates who plan to "attack" with Linux distro's and literature, be sure that people are watching. Big People (well maybe small minds) but the corporate "Wallet" carriers. Linux advocates make it impossible for the likes of myself to "sell" Linux to our bosses, I work for a global fortune 500 company, and although they may never make the right decision to change to Linux, they certainly won't if they percieve Linux advocates as a bunch of kids with a wild hair up their ass, and a "cause". They (the radicals) tend to make themselves look more like "Linux Nazi's" than advocates of a better server/workstation O.S. Let Micro$oft have their day in the sun, the sun eventually sets on everyone. Let people interested in Micro$oft products, explore what M$ is offering. Origionally Linux advocates were a voice of an alternative OS, and free beer..I mean software, or at least open-source and GPL. Now a few are giving Linux the look of a Radical Neo-Software-Nazi, hellbent on kicking anyone thinking of staying with M$, a kick in the ass. As a "peaceful" advocate of Linux, I find it harder and harder to prove to anyone (important), that this is not the movement of some radical group with no other cause. If it doesn't stop, and you dumbasses who are responsible know who you are, Linux will lose it's image of a superior OS, and take a seat in the anal's of history, in the it-was-great-while-it-lasted 'till some one %#cked it up dept.
Sorry, but I can't think of a nicer way to put this. You're talking out of your ass. There are reams and endless reams of medical proof to rebut what you are saying. I won't quote it here. You have a computer, or obvious access to one. You have access to the Net. Look it up.
Hmmm...sounds as if us Linux fans wear blinders and paint with a broad brush. Since purchasing Red Hat 6.1 professional, my mail box runneth over, with notices and patches for security problems within Linux and Apache. Still, I prefer, like the rest of you, Linux, but maybe we should devote our resources, as the "community" has in the past, to concentrating on Linux problems, rather than wasting valuable time and space flaming M$ for every minor and (major) shortcoming they might have. Linux..Ain't it cool?
Dear Fink, maybe we can achieve both. I've been in the business for about 30 years, don't know everything, but I guess I'm past the "illerate", uh I think it's spelled illiterate, jeez, anyway my question to you is this? The writer asked for help. You gave none just a wise-assed non-informational remark. Let me pose the same question to you, as I did to another "helpful" poster on this topic. Were you born with a computer up your ass? Or maybe, just maybe you had a little to learn at one time. Fucking jerk.
I currently work as an engineer in a specialty component manufacturing enviornment, and I'd bet that unless you work in the same field, with the same experiences, you couldn't get much working here either, in the same sense that, I wouldn't know too awful much about nuero-surgery. Doesn't mean I don't give two hoots. Responses like your's, turn a lot of people away from Linux. Were you born with a Red Had distro disk shoved up your ass? I assume that you had a first go at linux or any other operating system at one time or another. Next time, try a useful post, that would be helpful, not off topic bullshit like this one. BTW, I lost my manual for my old monitor also, and had a heck of a time trying to track down sync rates, refresh rates etc...
Given your example of Back Orifice, then how do we judge "legitimized" software. I can do anything with M$ back office, that I can do with BO2K. I basically use B02K to administer a few friends and relatives Windoze boxes, simply because they are getting up in age, just into computers and not using them much more than browsing the net and a little word processing. When they have problems, instead of driving all over, I just log in the "infected" machines and fix them. O.K., now back to the point. M$ sells Back office for over a Grand a seat, while B02K was free. No one would question the ethical use of MS Back Office, but many would find ethical problems with BO2K. A man gets drunk, gets into his car, drives, crashes and kills people. Do you sue the a: brewery b: liquor store owner, c: liquor store clerk d: Chrysler, Ford, Honda etc.. or charge the man with homicide and jail him? I don't subscribe to the theory that a layman couldn't figure this one out for him/herself. Why should it be so difficult to apply the same principles to software.
Excellent. But Autobahn, as great as it is, my lull you into a nap rather than an intense coding session. More powerful than Xanax, in it's hypnotic effect.
Gotta be a female. Likes to relate anything they don't approve of to the male organs. re: broadcast their testicle size. Can't we all jest get along...hey..who said that?
Robin Trower bridge of Sighs, a definite. Any Led Zepplin, how 'bout the Coda album? (pun intended), or Some Frank Zappa (appostrophe) to wring out your intellectual abstract function of the centerzoid of your organic processor?
If I could think of the perfect answer to this future coder's question, yours would be it. Technology and "flavor-of-the-week" platforms will come and go. But an excellent backgroung in basics, logical thinking and etc..you already mentioned most of it..will last that student a lifetime. The rest is add-on.
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So many of Slasdotter's so frequently espouse the virtues of socialisim, elitism, and liberlism, that, I'm suprised that many of you are not lauding this new all important globalism. You can't have it both ways, people. So line-up, recieve your biometric I.D.'s, trade in your Tee's and jeans for your Chairman Mao blues, and get on with life. He..he..and they laughed at me for refusing to fill out a Census.
I wonder why anyone purchases from Amazon.com (particularly computer books) in the first place.
Apparently, they have excess disposable income. I go to Bestbookbuy.com and use their search engine, to ferret out prices from numerous resources.
I have never found Amazon to be even closely competitive with any of the other retailers listed with bestbookbuy.com.
Sometimes I even use Amazon's search engine and read the reviews of a particular book, then go to bestbookbuy and look up prices and availibility.
On average, say for a book that retails $59 U.S.,
Amazon and B & N both, are never even closely competitive in price.
I save a bundle on books (I buy alot of them), and
redirect my funds from Amazon at the same time.
Ain't it great?? Oh, and I'm polite too. I sent a thank you note to Amazon for use of their search engine, and reviews format, and explain why I'm buying elsewhere (the patent issue), yes on the rare occassion that Amazon is the only one that carries that particular book, or has it in stock, I pass, until I can find it elsewhere.
I guess it's because we're just so burnt out on saving European's asses, every time the fuck up.
Or because our ancestors passed on gene's from delayed stress syndrom impacted psyhe's from all the combat they endured keeping your dumbasses free from dictators, etc. Now, why do you suck?
This only works for books, but I do it all the time. Makes me feel better anyway. I use Amazon's search engine,(good), read the reviews,
then go to bestbookbuys.com. Type in the ISBN, Title or Keyword, and it lists the stores that carry your desired book, by price, lowest to highest. BTW, Amazon is never even near being competitive with the others, in price. I order my book(s). Then I e-mail Amazon, tell them where I got it, how much I paid, and thank them for the use of their search engine and great data base. I always tell them that they should patent
something (usally stupid), but they get the point.
They used to answer my e-mail, but not anymore. I can't figure that one out. Oh, No. Mr. Billllllll....
Although we are getting a little off-topic here,
I think that you're not 100% correct in your assertion that C++ can't handle computational mathematics. Although not a expert in this area,
I know a few who are. They use C++ extensively for scientific computation at AFIT, (Air Force Institute of Technology), and could probably help you out if you wish. Hell, they even use PYTHON, to some extent, with hellish embellishments and self written library's. If you're interested, e-mail Jbythelake@yahoo.com, and I'll give you my "real" e-mail address, and link you to them.
I disagree with you on one point, though, for the years invested in learning C++, OOP, and proper design and use of the intended features, I'd probably stick to FORTRAN. Although I've only used it to a limited extent in engineering applications, and by no means extensive "brain-wracking" computations, it sure seems a lot more simple to use.
The first language I learned was BASIC. 2nd was Cobol, 3rd Fortran, and then C++. Although I'll never be awarded a Nobel prize for my programming skills, I guess I'm a fair C++ programmer. BTW, I skipped "traditional" C altogether. Funny thing is/was that, I didn't realize that C++ was too complex to be useful, taught properly, implemted correctly, etc..etc.. until somebody told me. Too late now. C++ and (OOP for anything larger than a couple of hundred lines of code) are basically all I know. Thanks for enlightening me on the deficiency of C++. Maybe I could go back and learn C and revert to strictly procedural paradigms.
I guess now, the LCD is that all slashdotter's are going to worship Gore, the golden internet cow, and "inventer of the internet", because his web server uses Linux. Yeah, flame-bait, so sue me. "I did not have sex with that server, VA". It depends on what your definition of an OS is.
And I guess you were born with a PC and a linux distro up your ass? Your the type of asshole, who I think as the intent of the origional post.
Another point: When Microsoft parades Win2K, and you have hundreds of Linux advocates who plan to "attack" with Linux distro's and literature, be sure that people are watching. Big People (well maybe small minds) but the corporate "Wallet" carriers. Linux advocates make it impossible for the likes of myself to "sell" Linux to our bosses, I work for a global fortune 500 company, and although they may never make the right decision to change to Linux, they certainly won't if they percieve Linux advocates as a bunch of kids with a wild hair up their ass, and a "cause". They (the radicals) tend to make themselves look more like "Linux Nazi's" than advocates of a better server/workstation O.S. Let Micro$oft have their day in the sun, the sun eventually sets on everyone. Let people interested in Micro$oft products, explore what M$ is offering. Origionally Linux advocates were a voice of an alternative OS, and free beer..I mean software, or at least open-source and GPL. Now a few are giving Linux the look of a Radical Neo-Software-Nazi, hellbent on kicking anyone thinking of staying with M$, a kick in the ass. As a "peaceful" advocate of Linux, I find it harder and harder to prove to anyone (important), that this is not the movement of some radical group with no other cause. If it doesn't stop, and you dumbasses who are responsible know who you are, Linux will lose it's image of a superior OS, and take a seat in the anal's of history, in the it-was-great-while-it-lasted 'till some one %#cked it up dept.
Sorry, but I can't think of a nicer way to put this. You're talking out of your ass. There are reams and endless reams of medical proof to rebut what you are saying. I won't quote it here. You have a computer, or obvious access to one. You have access to the Net. Look it up.
Hmmm...sounds as if us Linux fans wear blinders and paint with a broad brush. Since purchasing Red Hat 6.1 professional, my mail box runneth over, with notices and patches for security problems within Linux and Apache. Still, I prefer, like the rest of you, Linux, but maybe we should devote our resources, as the "community" has in the past, to concentrating on Linux problems, rather than wasting valuable time and space flaming M$ for every minor and (major) shortcoming they might have. Linux..Ain't it cool?
Dear Fink, maybe we can achieve both. I've been in the business for about 30 years, don't know everything, but I guess I'm past the "illerate", uh I think it's spelled illiterate, jeez, anyway my question to you is this? The writer asked for help. You gave none just a wise-assed non-informational remark. Let me pose the same question to you, as I did to another "helpful" poster on this topic. Were you born with a computer up your ass? Or maybe, just maybe you had a little to learn at one time. Fucking jerk.
I currently work as an engineer in a specialty component manufacturing enviornment, and I'd bet that unless you work in the same field, with the same experiences, you couldn't get much working here either, in the same sense that, I wouldn't know too awful much about nuero-surgery. Doesn't mean I don't give two hoots. Responses like your's, turn a lot of people away from Linux. Were you born with a Red Had distro disk shoved up your ass? I assume that you had a first go at linux or any other operating system at one time or another. Next time, try a useful post, that would be helpful, not off topic bullshit like this one. BTW, I lost my manual for my old monitor also, and had a heck of a time trying to track down sync rates, refresh rates etc...
If we just plug a power converter into the Sun, that ought to work...We'll get Mr. Gates to volunteer to plug 'er in...
Why didn't you file this under the "what else is new? department.
Given your example of Back Orifice, then how do we judge "legitimized" software. I can do anything with M$ back office, that I can do with BO2K. I basically use B02K to administer a few friends and relatives Windoze boxes, simply because they are getting up in age, just into computers and not using them much more than browsing the net and a little word processing. When they have problems, instead of driving all over, I just log in the "infected" machines and fix them. O.K., now back to the point. M$ sells Back office for over a Grand a seat, while B02K was free. No one would question the ethical use of MS Back Office, but many would find ethical problems with BO2K. A man gets drunk, gets into his car, drives, crashes and kills people. Do you sue the a: brewery b: liquor store owner, c: liquor store clerk d: Chrysler, Ford, Honda etc..
or charge the man with homicide and jail him? I don't subscribe to the theory that a layman couldn't figure this one out for him/herself. Why should it be so difficult to apply the same principles to software.
Excellent. But Autobahn, as great as it is, my lull you into a nap rather than an intense coding session. More powerful than Xanax, in it's hypnotic effect.
Gotta be a female. Likes to relate anything they don't approve of to the male organs. re: broadcast their testicle size. Can't we all jest get along...hey..who said that?
Robin Trower bridge of Sighs, a definite. Any Led Zepplin, how 'bout the Coda album? (pun intended), or Some Frank Zappa (appostrophe) to wring out your intellectual abstract function of the centerzoid of your organic processor?
If I could think of the perfect answer to this future coder's question, yours would be it. Technology and "flavor-of-the-week" platforms will come and go. But an excellent backgroung in basics, logical thinking and etc..you already mentioned most of it..will last that student a lifetime. The rest is add-on.