Considering that the original "backbone" data line AT&T installed for ARPANET was a ~50K line, I would say that evolution is the most probable path. Another thing to consider is the very thing that makes networks so valuable, Metcafs law, also makes it more difficult to get all of the internetworking people to make changes together.
Keep in mind, there was a time (not very long ago) when there wasn't a single add on the internet. It was all content, and no filler. It's sad to see moee than 50% cruft on sites today. Technical articles split up across 5 or 6 pages to get more banner loads and, each page with a side bar of more adds is a little silly.
Imagine, if you will, you're driving down the street and your cell phone shows an add for $2.00 off a 6 pack of beer. Interested, you pull into the store to buy your 6 pack at a really great price. Feeleing pretty good about your find, you open a beer and phone a friend to tell him about the deal as you drive home.
The problem with this technology is it closes the "last mile" of the privacy gap.
WHO:From the data on your frequant shopper card WHAT:From your caller ID number and credit card information. WHAT:From the data on your shopper card WHERE:From the GPS information triangulating your position with a time stamp. WHEN:From the time stamp in the GPS signal. WHY:From the eshilon style monitoring system on your cell phone (logged to give advertisers better feedback on their adds effectivness)
From: http://Activ eState.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959150 636.html "We view Mozilla as a very exciting platform as it offers an open, modern component framework for cross-platform application development," stated Dr. David Ascher, Senior Developer and Mozilla Product Leader, ActiveState. "Our contributions to the Mozilla open source effort will start with adding Python and Perl bindings to XPCOM, Mozilla's component architecture. This change will open the Mozilla architecture and eventually make it available to Perl and Python programmers." ___
Some words from the article: "I'm not an expert on all the technical aspects involved in such an endeavor (Im no rocket scientist); nor do I have any idea of the cost involved, but I think I can reduce my plan into words here and let the engineers take it from there."
Qualifications anyone? could this be little more than an AC rant on Ham Radio? ___
Like a threatening letter from micros~1, this french court is making demands that are not only unreasonable, but acording to Yahoo engineers quoted in the article: "..it was not technically possible for the company to scan the content of all the sites carried on its service."
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Re:That doesn't sound like an anti-privacy individual
I have to agree with you on my lack of research into the history of the new advisory board at double-click. I haven't taken time to get to know their work, and I should.
I am judging them (and basing my comments about them) on their decision to advise doubleclick alone.
Some would say that the best way to effect change is from the inside out. Working together with the offender to help them understand the error in their ways can , indeed be a productive tool. A publicly traded company is not a good target for this particular aproach. Effecting change from the inside would be more effective in a comunity based.org.
Publicly traded companies have a duty and obligation to their shareholders to maximize returns or suffer the wrath of the market. Given this obligation, it is the responsibility of the CEO and board to do everything within the law to bring these returns to their investers. Currently,the laws in place allow doubleclick to do what ever it damn well pleases with your tracking data and digital biography. Thus they are obligated to employ these methods to maximise shareholder return.
So in the end, what you have here, is 1/2 a dozen of the most well respected minds in the industry taking time to advise a course of action doubleclick can't follow. For the advisors, this is career suicide at worst, and fruitless at best.
If they want to effect change from the inside, I would sugest they put their efforts toward lobbying congress to address privacy concerns so that their advice can be put in place by doubleclick. ___
Re:WinCE 1.xx had some serious problems, and Microsoft has learned from these problems and has made what I feel is the most stable OS in their product line.
I did read the link and even in the linked text your thoughts, expressions, rants, and raves are all there in full vivid detail. Not one line of text was omited, not one comment deleted.
Rob lets you create your own discussion forum? Yes. Does the sid=moderation forum cost you any money? No. Is Rob providing you with your very own forum out of the kindness of his heart? Yes. Does he complain to you about the waist of hard drive space on his server? No.
Pardon me if this sounds to blunt, but you're ungratefull and rude.
You piss on someone elses carpet and then complain about the color of the stain? If you don't like it get the source and build your own.
I still fail to see how anyone is interfering or sensoring your comments. ___
When you made your point in a previous article, and again here in an offtopic comment how exactly does slashdot interfere or sensor you or any other user?? ___
Just remember that all your tracking data is just one subpoena away from being public knowledge. There only need be an alegation of wrong doing to get a subpoena to ask netzero or freeinet to give up all your tracking data.
Should any company keep tracking data? no.
Should I get to view my tracking data? yes.
Should I have the right to contest the acuracy of that data? yes.
Should the company have to seek my informed consent before loging my tracking data? yes.
These are just a few of the rights that are being eroded every day. ___
. . get yourself a copy of Database Nation and you'll see what the public outcry is all about. Here's a summary: This book is more than simply a journalistic summary of the current state of privacy rights and violations. It is a call to arms. Forty years ago, unbridled technology attacked our environment--and few people seemed to know or care. With the publication of Silent Spring in 1962, Rachel Carson opened our eyes. Her graphic depiction of the ecological and health ravages brought by technology made many people realize the risks as never before. Today, our environment still imperils us, but things are better than they might have been, and we have a population that's informed and, in many cases, activist. This book pleads the case for privacy in the same way. There is much that can be done with, not in spite of, technology. An aware public is the first step. It is our hope that this book will open the public's eyes to the many intrusions on our privacy before it is too late. ___
Slashdot Mirror
Dante' couldn't have writen a more evil vision.
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The problem with this technology is it closes the "last mile" of the privacy gap.
WHO:From the data on your frequant shopper card
WHAT:From your caller ID number and credit card information.
WHAT:From the data on your shopper card
WHERE:From the GPS information triangulating your position with a time stamp.
WHEN:From the time stamp in the GPS signal.
WHY:From the eshilon style monitoring system on your cell phone (logged to give advertisers better feedback on their adds effectivness)
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Because Microsoft ia a bunch of money grubbing snakes.
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Yeah, I know the post is pretty lame, but it was only moderated an aditional +1 above my current +2 posting bonus.
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From: http://Activ eState.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959150 636.html "We view Mozilla as a very exciting platform as it offers an open, modern component framework for cross-platform application development," stated Dr. David Ascher, Senior Developer and Mozilla Product Leader, ActiveState. "Our contributions to the Mozilla open source effort will start with adding Python and Perl bindings to XPCOM, Mozilla's component architecture. This change will open the Mozilla architecture and eventually make it available to Perl and Python programmers."
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Wow! Anonymous Cowards here on /. have their own Linux?
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"I'm not an expert on all the technical aspects involved in such an endeavor (Im no rocket scientist); nor do I have any idea of the cost involved, but I think I can reduce my plan into words here and let the engineers take it from there."
Qualifications anyone? could this be little more than an AC rant on Ham Radio?
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"Technically anything is possible, but Politicaly? NO!"
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This may have an effect on Yahoos ability to make peering agreements with French telecom companies
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1) In Mozilla M16, use your mouse to highlight a string of text.
2) Select COPY from the menu and watch the CPU usage jump up over 50%
3) Use your mouse to to select a large (10 or 20 pages) block of text and watch the CPU usage jump above 65%
Can this be true? Can something as simple as plunking to the clipboard be that CPU intensive?
Perhaps the open and extensable UI can be compiled for runtime or perhaps I could just wait for the 1Ghz Athlon.
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I have to agree with you on my lack of research into the history of the new advisory board at double-click. I haven't taken time to get to know their work, and I should.
I am judging them (and basing my comments about them) on their decision to advise doubleclick alone.
Some would say that the best way to effect change is from the inside out. Working together with the offender to help them understand the error in their ways can , indeed be a productive tool. A publicly traded company is not a good target for this particular aproach. Effecting change from the inside would be more effective in a comunity based .org.
Publicly traded companies have a duty and obligation to their shareholders to maximize returns or suffer the wrath of the market. Given this obligation, it is the responsibility of the CEO and board to do everything within the law to bring these returns to their investers. Currently,the laws in place allow doubleclick to do what ever it damn well pleases with your tracking data and digital biography. Thus they are obligated to employ these methods to maximise shareholder return.
So in the end, what you have here, is 1/2 a dozen of the most well respected minds in the industry taking time to advise a course of action doubleclick can't follow. For the advisors, this is career suicide at worst, and fruitless at best.
If they want to effect change from the inside, I would sugest they put their efforts toward lobbying congress to address privacy concerns so that their advice can be put in place by doubleclick.
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To clarify,since you have one, allow me to ask a question.
right now, as you hold the HP PDA in your hand, how many colors do your eyeballs see?
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That's just too funny
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Rob lets you create your own discussion forum? Yes. Does the sid=moderation forum cost you any money? No. Is Rob providing you with your very own forum out of the kindness of his heart? Yes. Does he complain to you about the waist of hard drive space on his server? No.
Pardon me if this sounds to blunt, but you're ungratefull and rude.
You piss on someone elses carpet and then complain about the color of the stain? If you don't like it get the source and build your own.
I still fail to see how anyone is interfering or sensoring your comments.
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When you made your point in a previous article, and again here in an offtopic comment how exactly does slashdot interfere or sensor you or any other user??
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Yet another closed standard.
I get the feeling someone at sony heard the phrase: "standards are great, everyone should have one", and took it seriously!
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. . I've read this week!
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Given MSs speed at fixing bugs, you have about 5 years to complete your vbs add blocking script.
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Should any company keep tracking data?
no.
Should I get to view my tracking data?
yes.
Should I have the right to contest the acuracy of that data?
yes.
Should the company have to seek my informed consent before loging my tracking data?
yes.
These are just a few of the rights that are being eroded every day.
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. . get yourself a copy of Database Nation and you'll see what the public outcry is all about.
Here's a summary:
This book is more than simply a journalistic summary of the current state of privacy rights and violations. It is a call to arms. Forty years ago, unbridled technology attacked our environment--and few people seemed to know or care. With the publication of Silent Spring in 1962, Rachel Carson opened our eyes. Her graphic depiction of the ecological and health ravages brought by technology made many people realize the risks as never before. Today, our environment still imperils us, but things are better than they might have been, and we have a population that's informed and, in many cases, activist. This book pleads the case for privacy in the same way. There is much that can be done with, not in spite of, technology. An aware public is the first step. It is our hope that this book will open the public's eyes to the many intrusions on our privacy before it is too late.
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