I'm curious at your use of the word "force" - as far as I was aware Canada was not forcing India (etc) to buy asbestos; rather, they want it and we will supply it, despite the fact that it's virtually banned here at home (and in most developed nations). It's like an ardent non-smoker selling cigarettes: not technically illegal, but awfully hypocritical.
I don't have any links at hand, but I am fairly certain that we took someone (a country) to court for resisting the deal on the same grounds that make using asbestos here illegal, and won because trade agreement provisions trump domestic law. I didn do a quick google and failed to find evidence to support "forced" maybe my recollection is in error, maybe it isn't the deal with India.
Regardless, we shouldn't be selling it at all.
Nations who enter into treaties with one another and then abide by the terms of those treaties?
Hahaha... the US abides by treaties only when it's in their best interest. Softwood lumber for ex., So tell them to go pound salt.
True enough. The US and Israel both feel no compulsion to stand behind their words, even if they are written down in black and white, signed and ratified by the whole world.
Nations who enter into treaties with one another and then abide by the terms of those treaties?
I'm reasonably certain you are being sarcastic, however this is a problem.
Did you know that the terms set out in treaties trump the law of the land?
This is particularly a problem in free trade agreements, which are treaties, and are designed to give corporations a way of circumventing the laws of the parties of the treaty.
Disputes that arise over free trade agreements are resolved, not by any judiciary, but by a panel of arbitrators that answer to no one and have corporate interests at heart.
That is why Canada can force countries to buy asbestos that is illegal to sell in Canada.
I'm ashamed to say that Canada is becoming more of an irresponsible bully all the time. I'm sure it has nothing to do with any negative influences, like the one that keeps marijuana illegal here, when practically everyone agrees that it shouldn't be.
Doesn't the US just send a team of navy seals to pick up people they are after? I know that this case came up BEFORE Obama had that power (legally), but he does now, so this story is no longer relevant.
The kid will be taken to Gitmo and waterboarded until he confesses. After which he will just lay about in an orange jump suit until the end of time.
It could be worse, the Mossad could just take him out on the street in front of his house.
I wasn't disputing what you said. Rather I thought I was supporting it.
I will say again that I don't care how many people use Linux, as long as I can.
Some may argue that Linux benefits from having more exposure as a user desktop, while this may be true, Linux is ubiquitous in so many areas I think this is not so important.
Linux rocks for me, if you and the rest of the world want to use Windows, I'm fine with that.
The only real hole I find personally in the Linux portfolio is CAD.
There is a real demand for an alternative platform.
Um, no there isn't. Or, more specifically, there isn't sufficient demand for an alternative platform to lead to success. Just because a small handful of people want an alternative does not mean the market wants one...
You may be correct, for the moment. Consider though, that currently all you can do on your tablet is run apps downloaded from an app store (or that you have written yourself) and these apps can only do what the OS allows them to do.
This scenario may have it's good points, but consider how much it constrains innovation on this cool new hardware we all have. Wouldn't it be more fun to have access to the whole enchalada?
A small handful of people who are interested in such things may very well open up a whole new market.
You have to admit that the possibilities are alluring.
Actually, Ubuntu screws around quite a bit with configuration files. I find this particularly annoying, it seems that nothing is where it used to be, or works as it used to work.
Actually, if you haven't spent your money on a closed device, you should be able to install Ubuntu on your tablet as a matter of choice. Personally I'd like a less consumer oriented more developer oriented distribution.
At the end of the day, more than anything else, what I want, is the right to choose.
This is exactly what's needed, you jar brained fuck up.
LOL!
See Barbara! That is an ad hominem attack. But it's at least targeted at someone who can defend themselves, and it's based on evidence. Regardless, he is correct in that it is exactly what is needed, and the jar brained fuck up comment is at least slightly relevant.
Competing against itself is what the Linux community does best.
RMS has probably done more damage to the reputation of FOSS in the last year than SCO did in the last decade. Not that he wasn't doing harm before, with his stupid calls to pirate closed-source programs "because they deserve it", his double standard wrt licensing, and his latest series of lies wrt his own android fud. He's irrelevant. Get over it already.
I can respect you for having an opinion, regardless of whether or not I agree with it.
I don't respect abusive ad hominum attacks. They don't make a point, except that the author is crude and not worthy of taking up space on my screen. They don't accomplish anything positive, and more of the negative sticks to the author than the victim.
Great, another thing to compile or to have break everytime a package changes.:(
That doesn't happen. Stating so makes you sound like an idiot.
Also your TV probably already runs Linux.
You sound like your equally assinine Linux counterpart who would say, if it were windows it would crash twice a day.
We know windoze doesn't do that any more, and stating such makes you sound like an idiot. Besides, TV's don't run windows, I wonder why that is?
It's just a computer with a tv card attached to an HDTV.
No, it's a super-sized iPad. You won't watch channels any more, you'll watch apps. Some apps will be for regular TV channels (eg. NBC, ESPN), some will be for specific shows, some will be for shows you can't get on regular TV (vintage, foreign, etc.), some will be for internet video services like YouTube, some will access your PC's media libraries, and some will have nothing to do with video content (games, email, web, etc.). It will all be controlled by voice (eg. Siri) with iPad, iPod, or iPhone remotes. There will, of course, be an Android version, but it will be all over the place in terms of quality and app completeness, as different set manufacturers try to differentiate from each other.
I can do all that with my puter. And there are no (very few at least) commercials. And I can actually control it to a certain degree from an Android device, my phone, or a tablet. I don't have voice control, but I could. It would be more appealing to hook it up to the Kinect, I prefer a mouse and keyboard.
I suppose everyone can't do those things, so there is a market. I'm just glad that I'm not in that demographic.
I have been hearing this for over 30 years. Will they get powered by cold fusion?
It's just a computer with a tv card attached to an HDTV.
I have an HDTV as a second monitor, without the cable connection, and therefore, minus commercials. Why anyone would buy a computer geared towards watching commercials is anyone's guess. Maybe they will be giving them away?
My company reduced my wages by a heck of a lot more than that two years ago, and I didn't object. Because the alternative was getting laid off in a down economy. In the bigger picture, the alternative was the company going under, as others have recently in this industry. As it was, I'm one of the 12 or so they kept out of over 200. So... yeah, I just fussed and fumed about it, wouldn't you?
I use the latest version, whatever that may be. I need to sort out mapping data that comes in from customers all over the world. And some of it is pretty crappy.
Fortunately I don't need to do this often, a few times a year. It isn't worth the effort to spend more time than I already do fussing about with WINE.
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I'm curious at your use of the word "force" - as far as I was aware Canada was not forcing India (etc) to buy asbestos; rather, they want it and we will supply it, despite the fact that it's virtually banned here at home (and in most developed nations). It's like an ardent non-smoker selling cigarettes: not technically illegal, but awfully hypocritical.
I don't have any links at hand, but I am fairly certain that we took someone (a country) to court for resisting the deal on the same grounds that make using asbestos here illegal, and won because trade agreement provisions trump domestic law. I didn do a quick google and failed to find evidence to support "forced" maybe my recollection is in error, maybe it isn't the deal with India.
Regardless, we shouldn't be selling it at all.
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1102952--last-stand-for-asbestos
Chrysotile asbestos is listed under Canada’s Hazardous Substances Act but, according to our government, is not hazardous for people overseas. Around the world, Canada’s conduct was bitterly condemned as a despicable double standard.
http://www.themarknews.com/articles/7555-no-environmental-review-for-asbestos-in-india-trade-deal
Canada exported $40.3 million worth of asbestos-related products to India in 2010, according to Industry Canada, and the World Health Organization says asbestos causes an estimated 8,000 deaths each year in India
A wealth of links here: http://www.canadianasbestosexports.ca/canadian-coverage
End the Export of Canadian Cancer!
and wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos_and_the_law
Nations who enter into treaties with one another and then abide by the terms of those treaties?
Hahaha... the US abides by treaties only when it's in their best interest. Softwood lumber for ex., So tell them to go pound salt.
True enough. The US and Israel both feel no compulsion to stand behind their words, even if they are written down in black and white, signed and ratified by the whole world.
"We changed our minds."
"what have we become ?"
Nations who enter into treaties with one another and then abide by the terms of those treaties?
I'm reasonably certain you are being sarcastic, however this is a problem.
Did you know that the terms set out in treaties trump the law of the land?
This is particularly a problem in free trade agreements, which are treaties, and are designed to give corporations a way of circumventing the laws of the parties of the treaty.
Disputes that arise over free trade agreements are resolved, not by any judiciary, but by a panel of arbitrators that answer to no one and have corporate interests at heart.
That is why Canada can force countries to buy asbestos that is illegal to sell in Canada.
I'm ashamed to say that Canada is becoming more of an irresponsible bully all the time. I'm sure it has nothing to do with any negative influences, like the one that keeps marijuana illegal here, when practically everyone agrees that it shouldn't be.
I don't understand the process.
Doesn't the US just send a team of navy seals to pick up people they are after? I know that this case came up BEFORE Obama had that power (legally), but he does now, so this story is no longer relevant.
The kid will be taken to Gitmo and waterboarded until he confesses. After which he will just lay about in an orange jump suit until the end of time.
It could be worse, the Mossad could just take him out on the street in front of his house.
Besides, TV's don't run windows, I wonder why that is?
Because hardware manufacturers are cheap bastards and don't want to pay for Windows?
And why should they?
I wasn't disputing what you said. Rather I thought I was supporting it.
I will say again that I don't care how many people use Linux, as long as I can.
Some may argue that Linux benefits from having more exposure as a user desktop, while this may be true, Linux is ubiquitous in so many areas I think this is not so important.
Linux rocks for me, if you and the rest of the world want to use Windows, I'm fine with that.
The only real hole I find personally in the Linux portfolio is CAD.
Actually there are two versions of windows. 32 bit and 64 bit.
The more you pay, the less disabled the OS is.
Well, I guess if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck. It's a duck.
All that left to do now is to delve into the internals of Slashdot config and see if I can remove you completely from my screen.
(Posting AC because I'm at work)
There is a real demand for an alternative platform.
Um, no there isn't. Or, more specifically, there isn't sufficient demand for an alternative platform to lead to success. Just because a small handful of people want an alternative does not mean the market wants one...
You may be correct, for the moment. Consider though, that currently all you can do on your tablet is run apps downloaded from an app store (or that you have written yourself) and these apps can only do what the OS allows them to do.
This scenario may have it's good points, but consider how much it constrains innovation on this cool new hardware we all have. Wouldn't it be more fun to have access to the whole enchalada?
A small handful of people who are interested in such things may very well open up a whole new market.
You have to admit that the possibilities are alluring.
Actually, Ubuntu screws around quite a bit with configuration files. I find this particularly annoying, it seems that nothing is where it used to be, or works as it used to work.
Very annoying.
Actually, if you haven't spent your money on a closed device, you should be able to install Ubuntu on your tablet as a matter of choice. Personally I'd like a less consumer oriented more developer oriented distribution.
At the end of the day, more than anything else, what I want, is the right to choose.
This is exactly what's needed, you jar brained fuck up.
LOL!
See Barbara! That is an ad hominem attack. But it's at least targeted at someone who can defend themselves, and it's based on evidence. Regardless, he is correct in that it is exactly what is needed, and the jar brained fuck up comment is at least slightly relevant.
Competing against itself is what the Linux community does best.
RMS has probably done more damage to the reputation of FOSS in the last year than SCO did in the last decade. Not that he wasn't doing harm before, with his stupid calls to pirate closed-source programs "because they deserve it", his double standard wrt licensing, and his latest series of lies wrt his own android fud. He's irrelevant. Get over it already.
I can respect you for having an opinion, regardless of whether or not I agree with it.
I don't respect abusive ad hominum attacks. They don't make a point, except that the author is crude and not worthy of taking up space on my screen. They don't accomplish anything positive, and more of the negative sticks to the author than the victim.
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Barbara
RMS is asking police to investigate a murder attempt. Someone slipped Odor-Eaters into his sandals.
You're an asshole.
LOL!
Me too, I guess he's just funny and doesn't know it.
I'd mod this up if I hadn't commented already. Why are you posting AC? Work for Sony?
Great, another thing to compile or to have break everytime a package changes. :(
That doesn't happen. Stating so makes you sound like an idiot.
Also your TV probably already runs Linux.
You sound like your equally assinine Linux counterpart who would say, if it were windows it would crash twice a day.
We know windoze doesn't do that any more, and stating such makes you sound like an idiot. Besides, TV's don't run windows, I wonder why that is?
It's just a computer with a tv card attached to an HDTV.
No, it's a super-sized iPad. You won't watch channels any more, you'll watch apps. Some apps will be for regular TV channels (eg. NBC, ESPN), some will be for specific shows, some will be for shows you can't get on regular TV (vintage, foreign, etc.), some will be for internet video services like YouTube, some will access your PC's media libraries, and some will have nothing to do with video content (games, email, web, etc.). It will all be controlled by voice (eg. Siri) with iPad, iPod, or iPhone remotes. There will, of course, be an Android version, but it will be all over the place in terms of quality and app completeness, as different set manufacturers try to differentiate from each other.
I can do all that with my puter. And there are no (very few at least) commercials. And I can actually control it to a certain degree from an Android device, my phone, or a tablet. I don't have voice control, but I could. It would be more appealing to hook it up to the Kinect, I prefer a mouse and keyboard.
I suppose everyone can't do those things, so there is a market. I'm just glad that I'm not in that demographic.
I have been hearing this for over 30 years. Will they get powered by cold fusion?
It's just a computer with a tv card attached to an HDTV.
I have an HDTV as a second monitor, without the cable connection, and therefore, minus commercials. Why anyone would buy a computer geared towards watching commercials is anyone's guess. Maybe they will be giving them away?
But with alien slave girls, amazons, and the like, wouldn't it be more aptly named "planet 'boobs'" instead?
Amazons? Then that would be planet "Boob".
I think he's trying to say that its not necessary to say alien worlds, just say worlds.
If you just say worlds you have to say a billion and one. That's two extra words.
My company reduced my wages by a heck of a lot more than that two years ago, and I didn't object. Because the alternative was getting laid off in a down economy. In the bigger picture, the alternative was the company going under, as others have recently in this industry. As it was, I'm one of the 12 or so they kept out of over 200. So... yeah, I just fussed and fumed about it, wouldn't you?
And you now work at an employee owned company?
Duh! I forgot the most important one:
- It will get you laid.
I'm not sure of the version you are using but some seem to work under WINE http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=86
I use the latest version, whatever that may be. I need to sort out mapping data that comes in from customers all over the world. And some of it is pretty crappy.
Fortunately I don't need to do this often, a few times a year. It isn't worth the effort to spend more time than I already do fussing about with WINE.
But thanks for the suggestion.
Let him set up the meeting... there's nothing that says you have to show up.
That was my first thought. I don't think I could be that rude though, unless he was being overly pushy.
When he calls back tell him that you are merely reciprocating by wasting his time.