Yeah, it works if I allow scripts globally. I don't see any particular source that I should be including and the list of blocked sources is a list I would like to stay blocked.
When I allowed scripts globally (for a few seconds) An Amazon tab I had open went nuts.
Blocked sites (12) are from google, amazon, ebay, facebook, openmedia.ca (?) visualwebsiteoptimizer.com (possibly the culprit), stumbleupon, and twitter.
Anyway, I'll give creating an account another try sometime in the future. Maybe they will clean up the XSS enough to allow the form to be filled out. And maybe they won't
Too bad the account entry is screwed up at their site. Won't let me create the account without entering a state or province, and while there is a prompt, there is no associated entry widget.
... The US Constitution protects against some abuses, but more active measures are necessary. A static, defensive strategy always loses in the long term.
I'm sorry to say it, but I don't think the US government pays any attention to the constitution any more. It's too bad, it's a terrific document.
The corporations have won, they own the largest military in the world, and now have the right to deploy it anywhere for any reason, including on US soil, against US citizens, and with impunity.
You don't want the TPP and you don't want the US forcing their copyright laws onto you. Here's your chance to say that you want neither.. you should holler it from the rooftops until every last corrupt politician knows it.
Excellent comment. This is exactly what we need to do.
Tell every person you meet and scream it to every person that can hear it. Write as many letters to every representative you can.
Our freedom continues to creep away from us and we need to make it known that this shit has to stop. They were elected by us and they work for us, let's remind them of that!
I totally agree, but be careful you don't ruin some long time reader's Slashdot experience while you do it.
Sounds like another FTA, those exist so that corporations can get around a countries laws. Free trade agreements are treaties, treaties supersede domestic law.
There are others in this thread who say that science qualifies as a religion. I don't agree, but the arguments seem to be reasonably thought out.
It has been known for quite a while.
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It's no secret that Ethanol production is no greener than petroleum fuels. There are other corn based products that are propped up artificially as well.
Hard to figure why the government subsidizes it so much. I'm sure someone will say, is there a huge corn lobby? Who pays them?
You feel threatened by some people so you hate all that fall in that grouping...
An astonishing conclusion.
So how is that different than hating all people with a certain color skin because someone with that color skin beat you up once?
Wow you attack people because you feel threatened by them for some nebulas reason. So hating all atheists because several governments that proclaimed atheism killed millions of people and at least one still is makes sense as well?
Your bigotry is showing.
You have me hating people now. That is a bit of a leap, how did we get there? I'm not attacking anyone in particular, I'm attacking religion. Religion maintains a set of beliefs that guide peoples lives and affects others. I disagree with it, and I stand by my right to do so. I don't hate people because they are religious, I do think that better education would reduce the harm that religion does, and I don't think that we will ever be rid of it.
I wouldn't trust Wikipedia's definition for anything religious or spiritual -- it's garbage. e.g....
I haven't looked, but I don't have to. Any article that is the subject of faith is the basis for a raging battle on the talk page, and probably full of inaccuracies.
Note: These two reasons are why Science is a Religion:
Faith? Check mark.
Desire to Prove Beliefs? And Check mark again.
QED.
Science is only _one_ way to arrive at the answers / proof.
i.e.
Scientists take it on faith that the speed of light is constant throughout the universe.
Scientists take it on faith that there was no 'time nor space' before the Big Bang.
etc.
I'm not sure that follows. Scientists ahve to allow for things to remain unexplained because they fit with particular models where proof is available. I think you are making a huge assumption by saying that all scientists actually accept things on faith. There are scientific endeavours to research that which we may take on faith because we do not like doing that.
There will always be holes in science and we will forever be trying to fill them. Taking things on faith is not what science asks you to do, it's what religion asks you to do. Science only sees it as a temporary measure, and perhaps as a useful tool to keep philosophers busy.
History has proven time and time again though that rationality and religion are mutually exclusive.
No point in trying to apply logic then.
So what is an "Adherent of the Repeated Meme." I wouldn't ask except that I had to write a script to figure out even that much.
It's flamebait because 'scientific spiritualism' is nonsense. Like 'Socialist Libertarian'. Self contradictory. All it tells you is the person making the statement is a bloody idiot.
I can't say that I disagree with that. A lot of people avoid saying that they are atheists by touting mother nature as their god.
maybe I should have post about how atheists like Stalin and Mao killed many millions of people?
You like way too many other people just don't get it point so I will spell it out for you.
Thank you.
Guess what PEOPLE do really great things. Some PEOPLE do really crappy things. The people that do the worst things will use anything they can as an excuse for their acts. It doesn't matter if it is a member of the KKK, or a Bigot on Slashdot bashing someone for going to church. They will find some way that makes them feel like they are better than someone else and give them an excuse to attack.
You were the one presenting individuals as examples, I think you are making my point here.
Then you have the other less than pleasant people that are jumping down this guys throat for even asking this question when he or she could just Google it.
I didn't say that. Although I confess to thinking it.
Well maybe but it is NOT the authors fault that it is on Slashdot. THE EDITORS DECIDED THAT THIS WAS A QUESTION WORTH ASKING. So those that are complaining about this being a stupid thing to ask should really be complaining to the editors for not well editing what ends up on Slashdot.
I think that is the effect of conversations like the one you mention above. (Just Google it)
So what it comes down to is if YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY THAT WILL HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION THEN DO NOT POST. IF YOU THINK THIS QUESTION IS STUPID THEN BLAME SLASHDOT. IF YOU DO NOT CHOOSE TO GO TO CHURCH THEN PRETEND THAT HE IS ASKING ABOUT SETTING IT UP AT A FREAKING HO TRAIN CLUB!
So I should pretend that the post is something that it is not? I could pretend that you make sense, or that all of the above is relevant to our conversation too. I could pretend you are a pretty girl and be nicer to you, or that I am sitting on a horsey as I type this. Wouldn't change anything.
I feel personally threatened by religion. There are millions of people in the midwest US who are waiting for the rapture. So much so that they would love to see a nuclear holocaust or the like. They certainly are comfortable with the way we have destroyed the environment. Michelle Bachman actually claimed, on video, that the severe weather we are having is God's way of telling the US administration to get their accounting straightened out. (or words to that effect) The middle east is a hotbed for war, we know it is about oil, but religion is the excuse that is used. Hell, The Jewish and Muslim peoples both have the same ancestry in the middle east. The Israelis have been perpetuating genocide on the Palestinians since 1948, and they get away with it partly because they are supported by the rapture crowd. Science is perpetually hobbled by religion. In fact, religious people would have us believe that Jesus used dinosaurs like ponies. etc. etc. ad infinitum.
I have no problem with what people do, say, or believe as long as it is not a threat to me or society. Religion does not fall into any of those categories. It's fucking dangerous. And if you argue that most people do not really believe these things, it doesn't relly matter, because the vast majority of people who only pay lip service to religion lend credence to all of the religion, including the bad things.
Literary hygiene hint; all caps is annoying, and not in the way you intend.
Come on everybody knows that Religion is nothing but a scam and all religious people are stupid and evil.
Look that those scumbags like the Reverend Martian Luther King and Bishop Desmond Tutu!
Ahh, a religious person did something good. So are you saying that that validates religion? If not, what is your point? Are you saying that all religious persons are not evil, therefore religion is good? Is that like saying not all Nazi's were evil, so therefore Hitler was good?
Am I expected to post a list of outstanding atheists to counter your irrelevant sarcasm?
Then we could argue who was an atheist, who was really agnostic, who was a libertarian, who was a humanist, etc... It would be fun, but a waste of time.
How may religious people do you hear saying "Maybe my God is not the real God, maybe yours is." Not very many, in fact I think it is actively discouraged by the various reference texts that these cults consider required reading.
Until someone comes up with a religion that says it is OK to believe in "all the gods", your statement is nonsensical.
Most religions have been superseded in the 21st Century by finding several Seem-To-Be-Truths by and through Yourself, also known as rational, open-minded, scientific Spiritualism.
If you want to stick to old, close-minded, blind-faith-based, Zero Century religious institutions, be my guest, but please don't talk about it openly as if it's a good or even acceptable thing to do.
So this is flamebait?
I don't understand, why it is OK to tout religion, but not to defame it?
Freedom of speech / opinion does not encompass religion?
I think religion is harmful, I think it does much more harm than good to society, and the good that it does is thinly veiled proselytising.
If you're going to try to make a joke, at least make it have sense.
You should feel bad about posting that. It was stupid, and so are you.
Some people think believing in a god is stupid. Is it bad to say what you think? Or is it only bad when you are talking about religion. How about vegetables, is it OK to say bad things about vegetables?
Just checking, because I like spinach, and some people don't. I think they should keep their opinions to themselves lest they appear to be antispinites. In fact, I think they should be sent to jail until they realize that saying bad things about spinach hurts other peoples feelings.
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Yeah, it works if I allow scripts globally. I don't see any particular source that I should be including and the list of blocked sources is a list I would like to stay blocked.
When I allowed scripts globally (for a few seconds) An Amazon tab I had open went nuts.
Blocked sites (12) are from google, amazon, ebay, facebook, openmedia.ca (?) visualwebsiteoptimizer.com (possibly the culprit), stumbleupon, and twitter.
Anyway, I'll give creating an account another try sometime in the future. Maybe they will clean up the XSS enough to allow the form to be filled out. And maybe they won't
Too bad the account entry is screwed up at their site. Won't let me create the account without entering a state or province, and while there is a prompt, there is no associated entry widget.
I'm sorry to say it, but I don't think the US government pays any attention to the constitution any more. It's too bad, it's a terrific document.
The corporations have won, they own the largest military in the world, and now have the right to deploy it anywhere for any reason, including on US soil, against US citizens, and with impunity.
And when they do, we will be forced to revolt.
It's going to be ugly.
I'd like to think that you are right. I don't, but I'd like to.
You don't want the TPP and you don't want the US forcing their copyright laws onto you. Here's your chance to say that you want neither.. you should holler it from the rooftops until every last corrupt politician knows it.
Excellent comment. This is exactly what we need to do. Tell every person you meet and scream it to every person that can hear it. Write as many letters to every representative you can. Our freedom continues to creep away from us and we need to make it known that this shit has to stop. They were elected by us and they work for us, let's remind them of that!
I totally agree, but be careful you don't ruin some long time reader's Slashdot experience while you do it.
Sounds like another FTA, those exist so that corporations can get around a countries laws. Free trade agreements are treaties, treaties supersede domestic law.
Not an AC this time. A brand new user with no content. But nothing you say makes any sense at all.
Why do you cower, homosexuals?
Said the AC.
(motto: "We're not quite as evil as Monsanto.").
That's bad, the evil scale goes from zero to Monsanto.
There are others in this thread who say that science qualifies as a religion. I don't agree, but the arguments seem to be reasonably thought out.
It's no secret that Ethanol production is no greener than petroleum fuels. There are other corn based products that are propped up artificially as well.
Hard to figure why the government subsidizes it so much. I'm sure someone will say, is there a huge corn lobby? Who pays them?
"Futurologist?" What does it take to call oneself a 'futurologist?'
I am a futurologist
I wasn't sure until I tried it, but it's pretty easy.
It's just too good of an idea from the male perspective to ever actually come to fruition.
Love your sig.
You feel threatened by some people so you hate all that fall in that grouping...
An astonishing conclusion.
So how is that different than hating all people with a certain color skin because someone with that color skin beat you up once? Wow you attack people because you feel threatened by them for some nebulas reason. So hating all atheists because several governments that proclaimed atheism killed millions of people and at least one still is makes sense as well? Your bigotry is showing.
You have me hating people now. That is a bit of a leap, how did we get there? I'm not attacking anyone in particular, I'm attacking religion. Religion maintains a set of beliefs that guide peoples lives and affects others. I disagree with it, and I stand by my right to do so. I don't hate people because they are religious, I do think that better education would reduce the harm that religion does, and I don't think that we will ever be rid of it.
I wouldn't trust Wikipedia's definition for anything religious or spiritual -- it's garbage. e.g. ...
I haven't looked, but I don't have to. Any article that is the subject of faith is the basis for a raging battle on the talk page, and probably full of inaccuracies.
Note: These two reasons are why Science is a Religion: Faith? Check mark. Desire to Prove Beliefs? And Check mark again. QED. Science is only _one_ way to arrive at the answers / proof.
i.e. Scientists take it on faith that the speed of light is constant throughout the universe. Scientists take it on faith that there was no 'time nor space' before the Big Bang. etc.
I'm not sure that follows. Scientists ahve to allow for things to remain unexplained because they fit with particular models where proof is available. I think you are making a huge assumption by saying that all scientists actually accept things on faith. There are scientific endeavours to research that which we may take on faith because we do not like doing that.
There will always be holes in science and we will forever be trying to fill them. Taking things on faith is not what science asks you to do, it's what religion asks you to do. Science only sees it as a temporary measure, and perhaps as a useful tool to keep philosophers busy.
History has proven time and time again though that rationality and religion are mutually exclusive.
No point in trying to apply logic then.
So what is an "Adherent of the Repeated Meme." I wouldn't ask except that I had to write a script to figure out even that much.
It's flamebait because 'scientific spiritualism' is nonsense. Like 'Socialist Libertarian'. Self contradictory. All it tells you is the person making the statement is a bloody idiot.
I can't say that I disagree with that. A lot of people avoid saying that they are atheists by touting mother nature as their god.
maybe I should have post about how atheists like Stalin and Mao killed many millions of people? You like way too many other people just don't get it point so I will spell it out for you.
Thank you.
Guess what PEOPLE do really great things. Some PEOPLE do really crappy things. The people that do the worst things will use anything they can as an excuse for their acts. It doesn't matter if it is a member of the KKK, or a Bigot on Slashdot bashing someone for going to church. They will find some way that makes them feel like they are better than someone else and give them an excuse to attack.
You were the one presenting individuals as examples, I think you are making my point here.
Then you have the other less than pleasant people that are jumping down this guys throat for even asking this question when he or she could just Google it.
I didn't say that. Although I confess to thinking it.
Well maybe but it is NOT the authors fault that it is on Slashdot. THE EDITORS DECIDED THAT THIS WAS A QUESTION WORTH ASKING. So those that are complaining about this being a stupid thing to ask should really be complaining to the editors for not well editing what ends up on Slashdot.
I think that is the effect of conversations like the one you mention above. (Just Google it)
So what it comes down to is if YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY THAT WILL HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION THEN DO NOT POST. IF YOU THINK THIS QUESTION IS STUPID THEN BLAME SLASHDOT. IF YOU DO NOT CHOOSE TO GO TO CHURCH THEN PRETEND THAT HE IS ASKING ABOUT SETTING IT UP AT A FREAKING HO TRAIN CLUB!
So I should pretend that the post is something that it is not? I could pretend that you make sense, or that all of the above is relevant to our conversation too. I could pretend you are a pretty girl and be nicer to you, or that I am sitting on a horsey as I type this. Wouldn't change anything.
I feel personally threatened by religion. There are millions of people in the midwest US who are waiting for the rapture. So much so that they would love to see a nuclear holocaust or the like. They certainly are comfortable with the way we have destroyed the environment. Michelle Bachman actually claimed, on video, that the severe weather we are having is God's way of telling the US administration to get their accounting straightened out. (or words to that effect) The middle east is a hotbed for war, we know it is about oil, but religion is the excuse that is used. Hell, The Jewish and Muslim peoples both have the same ancestry in the middle east. The Israelis have been perpetuating genocide on the Palestinians since 1948, and they get away with it partly because they are supported by the rapture crowd. Science is perpetually hobbled by religion. In fact, religious people would have us believe that Jesus used dinosaurs like ponies. etc. etc. ad infinitum.
I have no problem with what people do, say, or believe as long as it is not a threat to me or society. Religion does not fall into any of those categories. It's fucking dangerous. And if you argue that most people do not really believe these things, it doesn't relly matter, because the vast majority of people who only pay lip service to religion lend credence to all of the religion, including the bad things.
Literary hygiene hint; all caps is annoying, and not in the way you intend.
Religion does not imply belief in a god. You are confusing religion with theism.
Well now, doesn't that just throw another abstraction into the mix. OK, from now on I'll try to be more explicit.
That is more like an exercise in philosophy than religion. Actually, I could enjoy that, but I don't know how long they would put up with me.
Come on everybody knows that Religion is nothing but a scam and all religious people are stupid and evil. Look that those scumbags like the Reverend Martian Luther King and Bishop Desmond Tutu!
Ahh, a religious person did something good. So are you saying that that validates religion? If not, what is your point? Are you saying that all religious persons are not evil, therefore religion is good? Is that like saying not all Nazi's were evil, so therefore Hitler was good?
Am I expected to post a list of outstanding atheists to counter your irrelevant sarcasm?
Then we could argue who was an atheist, who was really agnostic, who was a libertarian, who was a humanist, etc... It would be fun, but a waste of time.
buddism?
Buddhism is a philosophy. I suppose one could argue that it is a religion, but I don't think it espouses a god.
Point of fact. Religious people are all bigots.
How may religious people do you hear saying "Maybe my God is not the real God, maybe yours is." Not very many, in fact I think it is actively discouraged by the various reference texts that these cults consider required reading.
Until someone comes up with a religion that says it is OK to believe in "all the gods", your statement is nonsensical.
Most religions have been superseded in the 21st Century by finding several Seem-To-Be-Truths by and through Yourself, also known as rational, open-minded, scientific Spiritualism.
If you want to stick to old, close-minded, blind-faith-based, Zero Century religious institutions, be my guest, but please don't talk about it openly as if it's a good or even acceptable thing to do.
So this is flamebait?
I don't understand, why it is OK to tout religion, but not to defame it?
Freedom of speech / opinion does not encompass religion?
I think religion is harmful, I think it does much more harm than good to society, and the good that it does is thinly veiled proselytising.
But I can't say that? Why not?
Seriously, why?
If you're going to try to make a joke, at least make it have sense. You should feel bad about posting that. It was stupid, and so are you.
Some people think believing in a god is stupid. Is it bad to say what you think? Or is it only bad when you are talking about religion. How about vegetables, is it OK to say bad things about vegetables?
Just checking, because I like spinach, and some people don't. I think they should keep their opinions to themselves lest they appear to be antispinites. In fact, I think they should be sent to jail until they realize that saying bad things about spinach hurts other peoples feelings.
Worse, he'll get free healthcare courtesy of the US government. Granted he'd get it in the UK, but none-the-less
Well, the pres and the PM always insist on everyone being healthy before they're broken. And no one withstands The Machine.