you obviously know very little about atomic devices if you think that they can be set off by someone blowing up the facility. In order to form the chain reaction necessary for an atomic explosion, the forces must be very precisely directed. And with the radioactive material so far underground already, there's no danger of releasing radiation into the surrounding countryside.
Its far more dangerous to let the Iranians have a working nuclear device than to worry about putting extra large pot holes all over their country. Which is sad, because if their government cared at all for their people, they'd realize that pissing off the US is a good way to look more like large parking lot than an industrialized country.
You're very clever, RTFA
See section 6.4, Nuclear Payloads in the pdf linked in the article header.
Did you even READ the post I was responding to? The guy was so desperate for Linux to gain ANY share he cooked up this scenario where a $25 cell phone GPU caused a "revolution" with people buying this en masse and tossing Windows! Nobody and I repeat NOBODY that uses a modern or even older Windows desktop/netbook/laptop is gonna shitcan their current setup for a $25 cell phone GPU that doesn't even come in a case!
Well, yeah, I did, I didn't get the same read on it. Or maybe I thought your post was a bit over the edge because I don't really care if anyone uses Linux as long as I can. Personally I don't feel the drive for everyone to use Linux. I do appreciate that it gets more development with more exposure, but basically UNIX is a developers toolkit, I'm a developer and I love Linux. Perhaps the original poster was a bit enthusiastic, but you went ballistic.
You wanna know why Linux numbers are flatline? Its actually really simple, its because the developers and community won't listen and violate rule 1 of business, give the people what they want or at least what they think they want! Instead to paraphrase a line from Vietnam the whole thing has been taken over by deluded zealots that truly believe 'inside every user is a C programmer waiting to get out' like Suzy the checkout girl is reading Bash programming manuals in the bathtub and grandma is working on her CS degree in between knitting classes, its fucking nuts!
The US accomplished everything they set out to in Vietnam.
Regarding the rest, I concur, I think that trying to make Linux a desktop for everyone basically cripples it. But I can run whatever distro I want, and they aren't all trying to do that.
Look, if you want to be a hobbyist OS for programmers? I have NOTHING against that, in fact I ran OS/2 for years after everyone else had bailed.
Regarding OS2, good for you! I never really did anything with it. I did set it up though. OTOH, hobbyists are perfect candidates for Linux. I have to disagree with you there.
But coming up with one delusional scenario after another just makes your OS look like the property of the "Elvis is alive, NASA faked the moon landing" tinfoil hat wearing nutters. When I am having a conversation with a 15+ year Linux server admin who runs a giant server farm for a living and they tell me when i ask what distro to try as a final gasp before giving up and they say "As soon as I'm backed up i'm going to FreeBSD and if that doesn't cut the mustard I'm giving up on FOSS desktops and going Mac or Windows" you KNOW the shit is fucked up.
Well, I built an ISP with Linux in '93, when it barely worked, and now it runs the internet. I still build my own server farms, although I'm not really a sysadmin. (OK, I built an ISP, but that was just to get on the net.) I'd have to say that your buddy must be a little slow, if he can't cut it with Linux, he probably should look for work in either the food service or hospitality industries.
Now, I build air traffic control systems with it. Avoid Heathrow, Sidney(+), Hong Kong, Dallas, Scandinavian countries, Dubai, and any Canadian airport because they all run our stuff. I'm Canadian and believe it or not, we win awards for this shit, we were on top three out of the last four years. Air Nav customers will not run Windows anymore, they all agree that it was basically a mistake to use it in the first place. It just doesn't cut it. Can't speak for hobbyists.
Fix the driver borkage (Protip: everyone else from BSD to Solaris has had a hardware ABI for nearly a decade, you think you are smarter than every OS designer on the planet?)
Me, no, but I'm up there. Then again, that isn't what you meant.
and make an OS that will pass my "Is it safe?" test, where I simulate a user having the machine for 3 years by downloading the distro from 3 year
By "load of crap" I meant the religion, not the book. But in the case of the book, it's a matter of opinion. If you consider it a work of fiction, my favourite chapter is Revelations.
Perhaps not but he's certainly no economist either. I guess you people have your vocabulary and we have ours. Just like you don't want a priest or a pope talking science maybe it's best you don't talk economics.
The Catholic religion had a huge problem with that whole "Gutenberg Bible" printing thing. Now you can read the bible and see what a load of crap it really is.
I took economics in school, as an elective, they gave me a bunch of formulas and then told me they didn't work. Looking at the economic state of the world right now, I'd say that economists don't really have any more of a clue that priests or popes do.
You picked an interesting analogy, two disciplines that require "faith". Faith meaning a load of crap that cannot be proven, but we ask you to believe it, revere us, and don't ask any embarrassing questions.
Oh please! How damned delusional and desparate for users do you have to be that you HONESTLY think people in the west are gonna rush out and by a cellphone GPU based hackers toy?
I'll buy 4. Maybe I'm delusional, but I could do a lot of cool stuff with one of these. Thinking of hooking one to a touchscreen and having it run my CNC.
I mean how fucking sad when your ONLY hope at this point is that China can crank out something so damned cheap that Windows won't fit.
Only hope of what? Windows is irrelevant to me, and whether or not you use Linux is irrelevant to me. I suspect it's irrelevant to most of the people who will develop solutions for these boards.
BTW, you sound bitter, I'm not sure what your point is though. These are awesome little boards targeted at innovators, you don't have to buy one. No one will mind. Or maybe you should buy one and put windows on it, show the world what an awesome OS it is.
Which is pretty much what OWS is saying. I suspect that there will be a lot more police involvement fueling the growth of the movement, before anything real happens.
If the 1% were smart they would just ignore them, but it's a control issue.
The park is there in a deal between the city and a developer. The developer got to develop something he wouldn't have been able to otherwise in return for the park.
The park is a public place regardless of who owns it.
It might also help you not look like a complete fucking retard
You might look up the word asshole, and realize that when you put a statement like that in your post, no one reads the rest. They just move on thinking... "What an asshole."
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Well, I see you read the table of contents, but did you actually read what they said?
Cause they aren't saying what you are saying.
Yes, you actually have to read on past 6.4, that is the intro...
sorry, here's a snippet from 7.2, read the rest yourself.
A Phase 2 feasibility study for a robust nuclear earth penetrator is underway
As others posted, this isn't nuclear. And even if it was, your remark is still bizarre; we've blown up more than a few nukes underground already: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_nuclear_testing
So let's keep doing it? sure, why not.
As I've pointed out to others, perhaps you should read before contradicting.
you obviously know very little about atomic devices if you think that they can be set off by someone blowing up the facility. In order to form the chain reaction necessary for an atomic explosion, the forces must be very precisely directed. And with the radioactive material so far underground already, there's no danger of releasing radiation into the surrounding countryside. Its far more dangerous to let the Iranians have a working nuclear device than to worry about putting extra large pot holes all over their country. Which is sad, because if their government cared at all for their people, they'd realize that pissing off the US is a good way to look more like large parking lot than an industrialized country.
You're very clever, RTFA
See section 6.4, Nuclear Payloads in the pdf linked in the article header.
RTFA (/. complains I'm not being original)
RTFA
Let's start driving nuclear weapons deep into the earth and blow them up.
It boggles the mind.
Or kill software patents altogether. They fuck everything up.
Did you even READ the post I was responding to? The guy was so desperate for Linux to gain ANY share he cooked up this scenario where a $25 cell phone GPU caused a "revolution" with people buying this en masse and tossing Windows! Nobody and I repeat NOBODY that uses a modern or even older Windows desktop/netbook/laptop is gonna shitcan their current setup for a $25 cell phone GPU that doesn't even come in a case!
Well, yeah, I did, I didn't get the same read on it. Or maybe I thought your post was a bit over the edge because I don't really care if anyone uses Linux as long as I can. Personally I don't feel the drive for everyone to use Linux. I do appreciate that it gets more development with more exposure, but basically UNIX is a developers toolkit, I'm a developer and I love Linux. Perhaps the original poster was a bit enthusiastic, but you went ballistic.
You wanna know why Linux numbers are flatline? Its actually really simple, its because the developers and community won't listen and violate rule 1 of business, give the people what they want or at least what they think they want! Instead to paraphrase a line from Vietnam the whole thing has been taken over by deluded zealots that truly believe 'inside every user is a C programmer waiting to get out' like Suzy the checkout girl is reading Bash programming manuals in the bathtub and grandma is working on her CS degree in between knitting classes, its fucking nuts!
The US accomplished everything they set out to in Vietnam.
Regarding the rest, I concur, I think that trying to make Linux a desktop for everyone basically cripples it. But I can run whatever distro I want, and they aren't all trying to do that.
Look, if you want to be a hobbyist OS for programmers? I have NOTHING against that, in fact I ran OS/2 for years after everyone else had bailed.
Regarding OS2, good for you! I never really did anything with it. I did set it up though. OTOH, hobbyists are perfect candidates for Linux. I have to disagree with you there.
But coming up with one delusional scenario after another just makes your OS look like the property of the "Elvis is alive, NASA faked the moon landing" tinfoil hat wearing nutters. When I am having a conversation with a 15+ year Linux server admin who runs a giant server farm for a living and they tell me when i ask what distro to try as a final gasp before giving up and they say "As soon as I'm backed up i'm going to FreeBSD and if that doesn't cut the mustard I'm giving up on FOSS desktops and going Mac or Windows" you KNOW the shit is fucked up.
Well, I built an ISP with Linux in '93, when it barely worked, and now it runs the internet. I still build my own server farms, although I'm not really a sysadmin. (OK, I built an ISP, but that was just to get on the net.) I'd have to say that your buddy must be a little slow, if he can't cut it with Linux, he probably should look for work in either the food service or hospitality industries.
Now, I build air traffic control systems with it. Avoid Heathrow, Sidney(+), Hong Kong, Dallas, Scandinavian countries, Dubai, and any Canadian airport because they all run our stuff. I'm Canadian and believe it or not, we win awards for this shit, we were on top three out of the last four years. Air Nav customers will not run Windows anymore, they all agree that it was basically a mistake to use it in the first place. It just doesn't cut it. Can't speak for hobbyists.
Fix the driver borkage (Protip: everyone else from BSD to Solaris has had a hardware ABI for nearly a decade, you think you are smarter than every OS designer on the planet?)
Me, no, but I'm up there. Then again, that isn't what you meant.
and make an OS that will pass my "Is it safe?" test, where I simulate a user having the machine for 3 years by downloading the distro from 3 year
Yeah, I have a Nexus One.
By "load of crap" I meant the religion, not the book. But in the case of the book, it's a matter of opinion. If you consider it a work of fiction, my favourite chapter is Revelations.
Perhaps not but he's certainly no economist either. I guess you people have your vocabulary and we have ours. Just like you don't want a priest or a pope talking science maybe it's best you don't talk economics.
The Catholic religion had a huge problem with that whole "Gutenberg Bible" printing thing. Now you can read the bible and see what a load of crap it really is.
I took economics in school, as an elective, they gave me a bunch of formulas and then told me they didn't work. Looking at the economic state of the world right now, I'd say that economists don't really have any more of a clue that priests or popes do.
You picked an interesting analogy, two disciplines that require "faith". Faith meaning a load of crap that cannot be proven, but we ask you to believe it, revere us, and don't ask any embarrassing questions.
Who was it that said"England and America, two countries separated by a common language."
Oh please! How damned delusional and desparate for users do you have to be that you HONESTLY think people in the west are gonna rush out and by a cellphone GPU based hackers toy?
I'll buy 4. Maybe I'm delusional, but I could do a lot of cool stuff with one of these. Thinking of hooking one to a touchscreen and having it run my CNC.
I mean how fucking sad when your ONLY hope at this point is that China can crank out something so damned cheap that Windows won't fit.
Only hope of what? Windows is irrelevant to me, and whether or not you use Linux is irrelevant to me. I suspect it's irrelevant to most of the people who will develop solutions for these boards.
BTW, you sound bitter, I'm not sure what your point is though. These are awesome little boards targeted at innovators, you don't have to buy one. No one will mind. Or maybe you should buy one and put windows on it, show the world what an awesome OS it is.
Nice.
Buy a phone you can root and put CyanogenMod on it. It works great!
What truly hurts is that I'm not surprised.
LOL! It is a pretty sad state of affairs.
Well stated, thus my conundrum.
After so many lies and disappointments from this administration, I'm curious why you or anyone would expect otherwise
True enough. Bush is an idiot. Bush is an asshole. Bush has spewed out some whoppers. OTOH, Obama is a lying turncoat with no balls.
Hard to say who was the better (or worse) president.
My God, what have we become?
Peasants.
There's quite obviously an assload of prior art for them too.
LOL! Good point. I could come up with some myself.
It's about damn time the patents came out.
Yes, and they are more trivial than I could have ever imagined.
RTFA, it's worthwhile.
I read it, and thought it was funny,,, and true!
I guess you didn't have to look anything up then.
If people were like that in real life, assault would be legal.
time to throw it out and start again.
Which is pretty much what OWS is saying. I suspect that there will be a lot more police involvement fueling the growth of the movement, before anything real happens.
If the 1% were smart they would just ignore them, but it's a control issue.
The park is there in a deal between the city and a developer. The developer got to develop something he wouldn't have been able to otherwise in return for the park.
The park is a public place regardless of who owns it.
It might also help you not look like a complete fucking retard
You might look up the word asshole, and realize that when you put a statement like that in your post, no one reads the rest. They just move on thinking... "What an asshole."