That was close to my first thought on reading the topic for this story. It will interfere with government surveillance.
Really? If that was your first thought, you may want to talk to a mental health professional. Unfortunately, it is likely that the reason why this was your first thought is the same reason why you won't. Just my 2 cents.
You may be correct, my second thought was "We must not allow a tinfoil gap!"
But I see that has been covered. (You probably didn't appreciate the humour there either)
Since moving into my new home, I've noticed a significant reduction in secret CIA messages being injected into my brainwaves. Goodbye ugly tinfoil hat!
That was close to my first thought on reading the topic for this story. It will interfere with government surveillance.
Look for government agencies investing in counter tinfoil surveillance technology.
It's win-win, they get to hear you talk in your sleep, and we get better wi-fi.
I'm so glad I'm not an American because you poor sods actually buy into this shit.
We may be facing some big challenges right now, but there aren't too many places left that are so much better they can afford to be as smug as you are. Your choice of words makes you appear British. In which case: pot, kettle...
I'm not British and I'm not smug, and in spite of the way I sound, I actually like most Americans that I meet. I'm not blaming you, directly. It's your government, they are out of control, and out of your control. I'm not sure that you can even do anything about it at this point. Electing Obama was little more than a nice try on your part, it doesn't seem to have accomplished anything at all.
If you have enough money in the bank, you don't have to pay taxes.
You obviously aren't American (or one of the herd) if you believe that crap.
That's right, most Americans just watch CNN and don't know that the Uber rich pay little or notTaxes, or that General Electric's tax rate for the last 5 years was just seven percent, Bank of America didn't pay anything. But then those companies are poor. Especially the Bank of America, after they were done ass raping the American public with that bailout.
I do believe Joe Sixpack sits in front of his TV sucking up the propaganda. But I also believe he sucks up nearly the same propaganda while drooling in front of the Web. Access to information is great if you know what to do with it. Shouldn't you be afraid that unrestricted access to the wrong information is just as bad - if not worse - than simply drinking the corporate Kool Aid on network television?
It's good that he has you there to decide what he should see. Because he's obviously too stupid to decide for himself and needs to be guided to the kool aid.
I mean, leave. Go away. With all due respect to many great accomplishments, this is ridiculous.
"Web access should be seen as a right, too, because anyone who lacks Web access will fall behind their more connected peers."
Anyone who lacks $1,000,000 in their bank account will fall behind their more moneyed peers. Is being rich now a right?
And what does this mean, to be a right? Free speech as right means the government doesn't have to subsidize my printing press, but if I have a printing press, the government can't tell me what to print or not print.
Does web access is a right mean the government doesn't have to subsidize my computer, but if I have a computer the government can't prevent my access?
So if I find an insufficiently secured WiFi access point, the government can't stop my access? I can't be arrest for theft of service?
I don't get it.
You are correct in so many ways.
If you have enough money in the bank, you don't have to pay taxes.
You have the right to free speech, but don't expect the media to publish anything that does not fit with the corporate agenda. After all, they own the media, and they pay the bills.
Why should we have an open internet when we can have a society where Joe six pack can sit in front of his tube/puter and have zero access to anything but the propaganda corporations want him to watch. Just like a good monkey.
I'm so glad I'm not an American because you poor sods actually buy into this shit.
An even more glaring example is what's been happening in the states since 'hope and change' took over. It doesn't even matter that some of us knew their intentions all the time. Pointing it out amounts to farting into the wind.
You mean like, when Obama signed the extension to the patriot act?
Or like, when Obama gave in on health care?
Or like, when Obama extended the Bush tax breaks for corporations and the uber rich?
Or like, when Obama caved on Afghanistan and Guantanimo?
Or like, when Obama failed to support the union busting in 20 states.
Or like,..<broken promises>ad infinitum</broken promises>
Yes, I looked at pyjamas. It's a fine idea for smaller projects, but I have big projects and I need to work closer to the bone. So, if the interface has to be JavaScript, I'll bite the bullet and use it.
Actually I'm finding that JavaScript is a very powerful language once you develop a discipline.
I'm on old hand c coder, I've moved to Python because I get so much done. If Python were a native browser script though, wow and holy cow, that would rock hard.
Why is everybody so excited about canvas? There are a lot of great features in html5, but why is canvas the trendy thing to showcase? I've seen lots of people make up toy examples with canvas when SVG would have been the better choice.
SVG rocks, but it has a barrier to entry. Even with InkScape, building an interactive app with SVG is not easy.
If you can get past that, you can kick serious ass.
That's what Ubuntu is for, a great fix for their completely trashed infected Windows machine that they love because 'my machine is really fast now' and also means that they can't install the shite that got it infected in the first place!
Yeah, that's how I fixed my mothers Windows Box. I installed Ubuntu. She just uses the browser, she's good with it.
It is a good thing in one sense -- getting Joe Sixpack to only download stuff from one central store or repository. This way, he might put down his Bud Light and not follow directions to manually install some "pr0n codec" from some sleazy site he is browsing because it doesn't show up as a link to MS's Application Market, or whatever it will be named.
Of course, the dancing bunnies security hole remains, but having it become the exception and not the rule that software is downloaded manually and installed (versus going to a repo/store) will help to mitigate that infection vector.
Anyone who drink a Bud Lite without being held down, blackmailed, or forced in some way, will do anything that a marketing machine tells them to.
Ever taste that stuff?
I remember suggesting at a dev meeting about 10 years ago that we consider languages other than ECMAScript for our SVG renderer.
It didn't go over well.
I still think it's a good idea, W3C does not specify a scripting language. I want Python.
Visual BASIC would be good too, so MicroSoft can have its own scripting language for us all to hate, YAY!
Cameras can easily be foiled, as proven in Toronto. Simply wear a riot helmet and a small piece of black tape over your name - and it's infeasible to identify or investigate crimes depicted.
Yeah, I love that, a hundred cops in riot gear, no id, beating civilians. Yet, no one knows who they were.
Well, the cops knew, and they knew they were breaking the law. We could try asking them.
Yes, that's why Microsoft has been publicly documenting all of its formerly secret network protocols, file formats and APIs.
Or could it be that people stop using Microsoft because of this. I certainly have. There are many superior open source tools available that just won't (or didn't, I haven't looked lately) work with Microsoft software because they don't publish API's, they lock them down.
I have no problem with that, it has allowed me to say, zero Microsoft products used here. The result, I'm sure, is that I'm a much happier person.
I stopped using Yahoo when it stopped being a service directory to morph into a mix of portal/search engine...
I do not see Portal as a replacement of CNN/others...
And google provides a more streamlined user experience (although I'm started to be irritated by the ammount of "help" it provides me, particularly because for some reason it does not believe that I'm interested in relevant content not in "tailored for french no latin america nor whatever other tailoring it does..."
And I see very personally how it now has the power to do "friendly censorship"... of course if you "know it exists" you can still with some effort see it, but "accessible reality" is shaped by google,and that is scary (well bing would be even scarier...)
I didn't even realize taht Yahoo was a search engine, been so long since I was there.
As for censorship, I agree, it is scary, but I don't think that it conflicts with "Do no evil"?
I can't see how anyone could possibly build a search engine that does not have the side effect of imposing some level of censorship, deliberate or otherwise. It's a by product of the search algorithms.
If that effect is controlled and directed, (deliberate) it's evil. If it isn't, what can you do to lessen the inevitable side effect?
One answer is to use multiple search engines.
I'd like to be able to impose my own censorship on search results. I'm tired of getting search hits on experts sites that require you to log in or sign up (and possibly pay) to see what you were looking for.
I don't use Bing, or Yahoo.
I always found Yahoo to be slightly offensive, too commercial. I could be wrong, I can probably count on my fingers the number of times (over the lifespan of the public Internet) the number of times I've been there.
I've tried Bing, it seems to work, so I can only say, with admitted bias, that I hate it because it's M$oft.
Ed Bott says that IE will outlast FireFox
Ed Bott says that apps can replace extensions.
He has no clue what he is talking about, he's a paid MicroSoft troll spouting FUD and he's not very good at it.
Microsoft and the EFF coming together about this issue.
I thought that this was a pretty cut and dried case; i4i created a plugin for Microsoft Word, attempted to sell it to MS, and MS took the code anyway and incorporated it into the Word application.
Is there more to this that I am not seeing?
I thought there must be something I didn't know. I was under the impression that this was about a frivolous XML patent, and I was previously siding with Micro$oft, something I am not normally inclined to do.
There's definitely something I'm not seeing, this bears further investigation.
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That was close to my first thought on reading the topic for this story. It will interfere with government surveillance.
Really? If that was your first thought, you may want to talk to a mental health professional. Unfortunately, it is likely that the reason why this was your first thought is the same reason why you won't. Just my 2 cents.
You may be correct, my second thought was "We must not allow a tinfoil gap!"
But I see that has been covered. (You probably didn't appreciate the humour there either)
Since moving into my new home, I've noticed a significant reduction in secret CIA messages being injected into my brainwaves. Goodbye ugly tinfoil hat!
That was close to my first thought on reading the topic for this story. It will interfere with government surveillance.
Look for government agencies investing in counter tinfoil surveillance technology.
It's win-win, they get to hear you talk in your sleep, and we get better wi-fi.
We may be facing some big challenges right now, but there aren't too many places left that are so much better they can afford to be as smug as you are. Your choice of words makes you appear British. In which case: pot, kettle...
I'm not British and I'm not smug, and in spite of the way I sound, I actually like most Americans that I meet. I'm not blaming you, directly. It's your government, they are out of control, and out of your control. I'm not sure that you can even do anything about it at this point. Electing Obama was little more than a nice try on your part, it doesn't seem to have accomplished anything at all.
No, I'm not smug, I'm very very worried.
If you have enough money in the bank, you don't have to pay taxes.
You obviously aren't American (or one of the herd) if you believe that crap.
That's right, most Americans just watch CNN and don't know that the Uber rich pay little or notTaxes, or that General Electric's tax rate for the last 5 years was just seven percent, Bank of America didn't pay anything. But then those companies are poor. Especially the Bank of America, after they were done ass raping the American public with that bailout.
I do believe Joe Sixpack sits in front of his TV sucking up the propaganda. But I also believe he sucks up nearly the same propaganda while drooling in front of the Web. Access to information is great if you know what to do with it. Shouldn't you be afraid that unrestricted access to the wrong information is just as bad - if not worse - than simply drinking the corporate Kool Aid on network television?
It's good that he has you there to decide what he should see. Because he's obviously too stupid to decide for himself and needs to be guided to the kool aid.
I'm so glad I'm not an American...
I, too, am glad you are not an American.
We agree on something! Awesome dude.
Yes please. Go.
I mean, leave. Go away. With all due respect to many great accomplishments, this is ridiculous.
"Web access should be seen as a right, too, because anyone who lacks Web access will fall behind their more connected peers."
Anyone who lacks $1,000,000 in their bank account will fall behind their more moneyed peers. Is being rich now a right?
And what does this mean, to be a right? Free speech as right means the government doesn't have to subsidize my printing press, but if I have a printing press, the government can't tell me what to print or not print.
Does web access is a right mean the government doesn't have to subsidize my computer, but if I have a computer the government can't prevent my access?
So if I find an insufficiently secured WiFi access point, the government can't stop my access? I can't be arrest for theft of service?
I don't get it.
You are correct in so many ways.
If you have enough money in the bank, you don't have to pay taxes.
You have the right to free speech, but don't expect the media to publish anything that does not fit with the corporate agenda. After all, they own the media, and they pay the bills.
Why should we have an open internet when we can have a society where Joe six pack can sit in front of his tube/puter and have zero access to anything but the propaganda corporations want him to watch. Just like a good monkey.
I'm so glad I'm not an American because you poor sods actually buy into this shit.
A free and open internet may disappear if we don't fight for net neutrality. And we need it more now than ever.
An even more glaring example is what's been happening in the states since 'hope and change' took over. It doesn't even matter that some of us knew their intentions all the time. Pointing it out amounts to farting into the wind.
You mean like, when Obama signed the extension to the patriot act?
Or like, when Obama gave in on health care?
Or like, when Obama extended the Bush tax breaks for corporations and the uber rich?
Or like, when Obama caved on Afghanistan and Guantanimo?
Or like, when Obama failed to support the union busting in 20 states.
Or like, ..<broken promises>ad infinitum</broken promises>
Yes, I looked at pyjamas. It's a fine idea for smaller projects, but I have big projects and I need to work closer to the bone. So, if the interface has to be JavaScript, I'll bite the bullet and use it.
Actually I'm finding that JavaScript is a very powerful language once you develop a discipline.
I'm on old hand c coder, I've moved to Python because I get so much done. If Python were a native browser script though, wow and holy cow, that would rock hard.
Why is everybody so excited about canvas? There are a lot of great features in html5, but why is canvas the trendy thing to showcase? I've seen lots of people make up toy examples with canvas when SVG would have been the better choice.
SVG rocks, but it has a barrier to entry. Even with InkScape, building an interactive app with SVG is not easy.
If you can get past that, you can kick serious ass.
That's what Ubuntu is for, a great fix for their completely trashed infected Windows machine that they love because 'my machine is really fast now' and also means that they can't install the shite that got it infected in the first place!
Yeah, that's how I fixed my mothers Windows Box. I installed Ubuntu. She just uses the browser, she's good with it.
It is a good thing in one sense -- getting Joe Sixpack to only download stuff from one central store or repository. This way, he might put down his Bud Light and not follow directions to manually install some "pr0n codec" from some sleazy site he is browsing because it doesn't show up as a link to MS's Application Market, or whatever it will be named.
Of course, the dancing bunnies security hole remains, but having it become the exception and not the rule that software is downloaded manually and installed (versus going to a repo/store) will help to mitigate that infection vector.
Anyone who drink a Bud Lite without being held down, blackmailed, or forced in some way, will do anything that a marketing machine tells them to.
Ever taste that stuff?
I remember suggesting at a dev meeting about 10 years ago that we consider languages other than ECMAScript for our SVG renderer.
It didn't go over well.
I still think it's a good idea, W3C does not specify a scripting language. I want Python.
Visual BASIC would be good too, so MicroSoft can have its own scripting language for us all to hate, YAY!
Cameras can easily be foiled, as proven in Toronto. Simply wear a riot helmet and a small piece of black tape over your name - and it's infeasible to identify or investigate crimes depicted.
Yeah, I love that, a hundred cops in riot gear, no id, beating civilians. Yet, no one knows who they were.
Well, the cops knew, and they knew they were breaking the law. We could try asking them.
Canada, fascism in the north.
Especially when, statistically, terrorists are non-existent.
LOL! True enough, yet trillions are spent fighting them. I'd like a piece of that.
Yes, that's why Microsoft has been publicly documenting all of its formerly secret network protocols, file formats and APIs.
Or could it be that people stop using Microsoft because of this. I certainly have. There are many superior open source tools available that just won't (or didn't, I haven't looked lately) work with Microsoft software because they don't publish API's, they lock them down.
I have no problem with that, it has allowed me to say, zero Microsoft products used here. The result, I'm sure, is that I'm a much happier person.
Clickstream data. The page it was coming from was irrelevant.
I don't understand what that means, I understand this though: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html
I stopped using Yahoo when it stopped being a service directory to morph into a mix of portal/search engine...
I do not see Portal as a replacement of CNN/others... And google provides a more streamlined user experience (although I'm started to be irritated by the ammount of "help" it provides me, particularly because for some reason it does not believe that I'm interested in relevant content not in "tailored for french no latin america nor whatever other tailoring it does..."
And I see very personally how it now has the power to do "friendly censorship"... of course if you "know it exists" you can still with some effort see it, but "accessible reality" is shaped by google,and that is scary (well bing would be even scarier ...)
I didn't even realize taht Yahoo was a search engine, been so long since I was there.
As for censorship, I agree, it is scary, but I don't think that it conflicts with "Do no evil"?
I can't see how anyone could possibly build a search engine that does not have the side effect of imposing some level of censorship, deliberate or otherwise. It's a by product of the search algorithms.
If that effect is controlled and directed, (deliberate) it's evil. If it isn't, what can you do to lessen the inevitable side effect?
One answer is to use multiple search engines.
I'd like to be able to impose my own censorship on search results. I'm tired of getting search hits on experts sites that require you to log in or sign up (and possibly pay) to see what you were looking for.
Just install windows on the mac?
Linux is nice on a MacBook Pro. Boss gave me one, nice hardware, I love it.
I guess you could run Windows on one easily enough, if you really wanted to.
I don't use Bing, or Yahoo. I always found Yahoo to be slightly offensive, too commercial. I could be wrong, I can probably count on my fingers the number of times (over the lifespan of the public Internet) the number of times I've been there.
I've tried Bing, it seems to work, so I can only say, with admitted bias, that I hate it because it's M$oft.
Gimme that olde tyme open source.
It's a desperate plea for attention. Microsoft is becoming less and less relevant.
Heh, I think it was an offensive out of left field generic call for M$ bashing.
i.e. What you said.
Ed Bott says that IE will outlast FireFox Ed Bott says that apps can replace extensions. He has no clue what he is talking about, he's a paid MicroSoft troll spouting FUD and he's not very good at it.
Also attributed to Dr. Detroit. (Dan Akroyd)
It's an insult to the gay niggers!
I'd chastize this remark,
It is so N.P.C.
With the sentiment however,
I feel I agree.
--- SamIAm
Microsoft and the EFF coming together about this issue.
I thought that this was a pretty cut and dried case; i4i created a plugin for Microsoft Word, attempted to sell it to MS, and MS took the code anyway and incorporated it into the Word application.
Is there more to this that I am not seeing?
I thought there must be something I didn't know. I was under the impression that this was about a frivolous XML patent, and I was previously siding with Micro$oft, something I am not normally inclined to do.
There's definitely something I'm not seeing, this bears further investigation.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum.
No, no, it's: I'm here to kick ass or chew gum. An I'm all outta gum.