I use Google, AMD processors, firefox, support FOSS, use linux, and I'm sure a half dozen other things that are very popular on Slashdot, and I have my reasons for all of them. Google is a great search engine, AMDs are cheaper and faster, Firefox makes my browsing experience much safer, and FOSS makes my software budgiting a lot easier because everyone loves free.
However, I don't think Google is the moral savior of the internet, that linux is ready for the home desktop, that FOSS always has competitive products. I may be wrong here, but I get the impression here sometimes that member of various groups get so blinded by their own opinions that everything else gets glossed over. They come and read comments where 200 other people stand around saying how great so and so is or how bad so and so is and you can easily loose sight of your own objectivity. I think that's largely become the case with Google, that we see so much positive press that eventually people aren't willing to beleive that the Betty Crocker award winning, loving mother of three is the same suburban housewife battling alcoholism as every other company.
But I'll thank you to note that this is the only time Google and MS have been on the same side, so line three is infact unique.
Furthermore there's always someone like you who feels the need to say only that they've heard this before, not that it isn't true, simply that they're sick of being told it. Maybe one day people will stop groupthought on the internet.
They cared, it just wasn't that big of a story.
If you hear Charles Manson killed someone, it's not the most incredible news you've ever heard, evil people do evil things.
What if you heard someoen who you consider to have ethics beyond reproach, say your own mother if she fits the bill, did it. Wouldn't that be something that stuck in your mind a little longer?
(And for anyone about to say of course becasue I care about my mother more than Charles Manson, substitute the Pope, Avril Lavigne, or some fictitious character who embodies positive feelings)
I would hope they're getting more critism on this than on their other actions, they used to be a multiheaded hydra of ecommerce masked by a nice looking tarp that people liked to look at, something like this starts to make hear the hissing behind the blanket.
They're still my favorite.:(
Some people disregard history by pretending that MS wasn't crucified on Slashdot for agreeing to censor for China while the reaction to Google doing it has ranged from many being upset to many praising them for how much good they're doing for the Chinese people. If you don't think some people are seeing Google through ruby glasses or at least seeing MS through a gunsight then I must just spend too much time here for my own good.
No, I sat and read through about 250 posts last night on the article that announced Google agreeing to censor its results in China. I wont argue that plenty of people finally saw the humanity of Google rather than seeing it as a pillar of moral and ethical success. I also saw something that bothered me, apologists. People who claimed that Google is actually doing the Chinese people because although they are filtering all the results at least they're providing the Chinese the service of their fabulous search engine which can expose them to new and wonderous things.
Yes, it's a good search engine, but people seem to forget that there are other search engines opporating behind the great firewall already, including MS, who may as well have made a pact with Satan while kicking puppies by the response it recived here.
There have been critics, I'd never deny that, but there is an obvious double standard amoung the masses at/. and I think it's hilarious when two eMantras suddenly collide.
The comments so far seem to reflect exactly what I saw coming the second I read the headline.
If MS censors in China, MS is evil and money grubbing and should be stopped.
If Google censors in China they're actually improving freedom in China just by being there.
If MS defends Google censoring China, MS is evil, Google is Good.
Since when do "AMD-fanbois" have anything to do with "iPod-ad" jerking, that would be the Apple fanboys, or the college students who are far more likely using Dells payed for by their families with Intel inside.
If you're going to be a retard at least get your forum archetypes correct so that people understand who you think you're better than.
So the games that Microsoft plans to release is still slated for release, the backwards compatibility library they've been working to expand is still being expanded, and countries that they plan to sell the 360 in will still be selling the 360?
Since when is planning to do exactly what you originally planned today because that's still the plan news?
1) The problem was actually in IE's ability to fix and execute broken CSS code which allowed him to input a broken call to a script to get it past the filters and then have IE fix and execute it. THe author himself took down his profile to stop the spread and after a few hours of downtime the problem was fixed, in fact there's a/. article about it.
2) You have to enter your password every time you log out, which is every time you close your browser. Never close the browser never log out. Simple.
It could be just as effective as the company in the US that allowed disabled (or lazy) hunters to hunt via webcam controlled rifles. Just put a team in control of some fire support robots at hot spots and let the over priced camera sit in harms way rather than cheap human bodies.
The company I work for accomplishes much the same thing by taking the copper cores from TVs and Monitors as well as cables and selling them to local scrap yards. Damn shame they wont take the 50lb+ transfomers we regularly get in as anything but iron scrap.
Recycling of our old copper products is really the way to look here. Not only does it lessen the drain of our limited copper supply, which is good for everyone, but it lessens the impact on the environment of copper strip mining which releases unthinkable amounts of tainted water into the oceans around South America and New Zealand every year. Not only that, but it can be offered at a lower price because high purity copper is much easier to extract from bundles of wires made from high purity copper than from piles of ore from the ground.
I work for a recycling company and all of our theoretical input and output is calculated on excel as well as I'm sure a number of things on the financial end (that I have absolutely nothing to do with)
I wouldn't dispute that. Anyone who has seen the profit margins on the XBox (the bright red ones) knows that Microsoft is willnig to trade profit for marketshare. The dispute here is whether Taiwan not spending that 25% on Microsoft, assuming it even happens because of the fair trade laws, even hurts their market share. With an unknown amount of pirated copies of windows software, and an unknown number of future installs of pirated copies by IT porfessionals trying to maintain system uniformity on a smaller budget it's entirely possible that this move would have a completely negligiable effect.
The point being, that Taiwan doesn't pay for most of their software to begin with due to lax to nonexistant copyright laws. If they aren't paying for it in the first place it doesn't matter if they cut the budget for it by 25%.
If they now only puchase 3 new copies instead of 4, but 4,000 are pirated it's not really a 25% impact.
He wasn't saying that 25% of Taiwanese governemtn sales aren't a big deal, he was saying that 25% of Taiwainese governemnt sales aren't really 25% of Taiwainese governemnts new Microsoft installs.
The easiest way to deal with the high voltage CRT is to just leave it unplugged for a couple of days. I work with litterally hundreds of CRTs a day and two days is more than enough time for any dangerous shock potential to dissipate fromt he capacitors.
That is assuming of course you can go without the system for two days. You could always do it in less and just be careful.
PC Gamer reviewed the EE955 and the FX-60 in their Febuary issue and stated:
"The FX-60 trounced the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 in test spins with Quake and F.E.A.R. Even more humiliating in F.E.A.R. the FX-60 came out ahead of the PEE 955 overclocked to 4ghz by 25FPS."
ExtremeTech ran plenty of benchmark programs, but in real application tests there was no competition, The FX-60 showing to be around 30% faster in every benchmark.
Parent was modder down for being offtopic but his first thought was the same as mine. Even if you get a cheap processor like the 2400+ for $100 you're still going to blow another $100 atleast to get a videocard capable of running the latest batch of games, if not closer to $200 if you want the latest eye candy.
This isn't the first time I've seen the latest processot priced around $1000, the same thing happened when the first AMD64 FXs came out. If you want to see a real batch of money and powerhogs look at videocards. Only $2200 for cards in you new quad SLI rig!
I find it more than slightly humorous that the population of Slashdot is willing to put themselves on a pedistal long enough to bash the users of Myspace. Apparently after I went to bed last night the nerds became the highest class in the social order. They may not bathe, they may all die virgins, but on this day my friend, they can claim they are better than the population of another website.
Before you go speaking in generalizations about everyone who uses is site, even if they are by and large scene kids with poor taste in music who take bad photos, remember that the road goes both ways. There are plenty of useless trolls on Slashdot that you wouldn't want to be judged with, and there are scores of people on Myspace who feel the same way about all the people you're mocking them with.
1. You can tow a boat of any reasonable size, or a Uhaul trailer, or an ATV trailer with a 4 cylinder Honda Civic, I see it on a daily basis(not during the winter ofcourse) on the interstate of all places. Anyone who says they would have bought a car but they needed the towing capcity for their boat either lives in the mountain, only drives with a boat attached (in which case it probably would be better) or didn't put much thought into their actual needs.
2) The government can't regulate one form of vehicles out of existance, but they can make those vehicles accountable to the same standards of emissions and safety that all others are. If I take a car chassis and put some goofy 24 inch wheels on it and a biger cab, what do I have? Not a car of ofcourse, I have a truck, not even a light heavily regulated consumer truck, I have a practically emissions law free mini-freight truck.
3)Why are most SUVs based on car chassis? Because they provide a smoother ride and better handing. They also have terrible ground clearance and a soft suspension to make them more confortable. These are hardly improvements to its off road performance.
If 90% of SUV owners truly need an offroad towing vehicle, why aren't SUVs designed to be offroad towing vehicles? Why are they designed more like really big cars? Why do the ones I see always have an unblemished paint job but a nonexistant trailer hitch? Maybe where you live it's a differnt story, but in Wisconsin SUVs are for the wealthy, sportsmen drive pickups.
Other people have all brought up that other SUVs will tear right through your misguided armor but it's far more simple than that.
I used to drive down a long striaght road by the airport every day where speeds typically reach 50-60mph which is thankfully offset by a mile of visibility in every direction. There are still SUV drivers who decide to pull out of the one parkinglot driveway on this road, accross traffic, without considering traffic coming in either direction.
I may be driving an '89 Camaro that will undoubtably slide right under most SUVs, but it also weighs 3000lbs and at 50mphs I bet it would really ruin the day of anyone who pulled out in frount of it. Infact, I bet any SUV T-boned at highway speeds, esepcially due to their propencity to roll over, wouldn't be in the best circumstances.
THe moral of the story? Drunk drivers drive fast, and when you're not intersted in your own safety the safety of others is much easier to endanger. Driving an SUV wont protect you from anything that being a responcible driver wouldn't have.
Both Wikipedia (under the sexual orientation heading) and PFLAG state that sexual orientation is determined by being primarily attracted to members of the same sex, opposite sex, or both. Both are fairly reputable sources one reflective of educated internet users and the other of those who have taken sexual orientation as their focus. Furthermore, if Dr. Drew can be seen as indicative of any number of people in the medical profession, he states that generally those who would identify themselves as bisexual are typically in a state of orientation confusion caused by a traumatic lifestyle or problems during childhood and that when these issues are delt with a person will generally settle into one or the other groups.
Genetically modified crops are regulated by the Department of Agriculture if they're planted, they're regulated a second time by the FDA is they're sold for human consumption, they're further regulated in either case by the EPA for their effects on the environment.
You have the choice to either buy genetically altered crops or to buy organic foods. I'm sorry they didn't call you to sit in on any panals or help congress write the laws, but just becasue they didn't ask you personally doesn't mean that no one has talked about it and that you don't have any influence whatsoever. Maybe you should get in touch with Greenpeace and see if you can convince anymore African nations to starve their population by denying them food because it's been modified, here you'll have to settle for voting with your wallet.
And maybe in your situation that's a great idea, and for everyone one of you I'd bet there are 30 form filling desk jockies who would get a whole lot more done if they weren't able to check their email, shop ebay, and sit on instant messengers. Want an example? My mother manages those thirty, their primary responciblity is converting paper police records into the database as well as accessing that database to pull records out when they're requested. These people don't have access to the workings of said database, and even if they did they wouldn't understand it or beable to diagnose a problem much less fix it. Why do employees like these, who I would bet make up a far greater number than employees like you, need instant messengers or even internet access for that matter?
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Who says it doesn't?
I use Google, AMD processors, firefox, support FOSS, use linux, and I'm sure a half dozen other things that are very popular on Slashdot, and I have my reasons for all of them. Google is a great search engine, AMDs are cheaper and faster, Firefox makes my browsing experience much safer, and FOSS makes my software budgiting a lot easier because everyone loves free. However, I don't think Google is the moral savior of the internet, that linux is ready for the home desktop, that FOSS always has competitive products. I may be wrong here, but I get the impression here sometimes that member of various groups get so blinded by their own opinions that everything else gets glossed over. They come and read comments where 200 other people stand around saying how great so and so is or how bad so and so is and you can easily loose sight of your own objectivity. I think that's largely become the case with Google, that we see so much positive press that eventually people aren't willing to beleive that the Betty Crocker award winning, loving mother of three is the same suburban housewife battling alcoholism as every other company.
No doubt.
But I'll thank you to note that this is the only time Google and MS have been on the same side, so line three is infact unique.
Furthermore there's always someone like you who feels the need to say only that they've heard this before, not that it isn't true, simply that they're sick of being told it. Maybe one day people will stop groupthought on the internet.
They cared, it just wasn't that big of a story. If you hear Charles Manson killed someone, it's not the most incredible news you've ever heard, evil people do evil things.
What if you heard someoen who you consider to have ethics beyond reproach, say your own mother if she fits the bill, did it. Wouldn't that be something that stuck in your mind a little longer? (And for anyone about to say of course becasue I care about my mother more than Charles Manson, substitute the Pope, Avril Lavigne, or some fictitious character who embodies positive feelings)
I would hope they're getting more critism on this than on their other actions, they used to be a multiheaded hydra of ecommerce masked by a nice looking tarp that people liked to look at, something like this starts to make hear the hissing behind the blanket. They're still my favorite. :(
Some people disregard history by pretending that MS wasn't crucified on Slashdot for agreeing to censor for China while the reaction to Google doing it has ranged from many being upset to many praising them for how much good they're doing for the Chinese people. If you don't think some people are seeing Google through ruby glasses or at least seeing MS through a gunsight then I must just spend too much time here for my own good.
No, I sat and read through about 250 posts last night on the article that announced Google agreeing to censor its results in China. I wont argue that plenty of people finally saw the humanity of Google rather than seeing it as a pillar of moral and ethical success. I also saw something that bothered me, apologists. People who claimed that Google is actually doing the Chinese people because although they are filtering all the results at least they're providing the Chinese the service of their fabulous search engine which can expose them to new and wonderous things.
/. and I think it's hilarious when two eMantras suddenly collide.
Yes, it's a good search engine, but people seem to forget that there are other search engines opporating behind the great firewall already, including MS, who may as well have made a pact with Satan while kicking puppies by the response it recived here. There have been critics, I'd never deny that, but there is an obvious double standard amoung the masses at
The comments so far seem to reflect exactly what I saw coming the second I read the headline.
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If MS censors in China, MS is evil and money grubbing and should be stopped.
If Google censors in China they're actually improving freedom in China just by being there.
If MS defends Google censoring China, MS is evil, Google is Good.
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Since when do "AMD-fanbois" have anything to do with "iPod-ad" jerking, that would be the Apple fanboys, or the college students who are far more likely using Dells payed for by their families with Intel inside.
If you're going to be a retard at least get your forum archetypes correct so that people understand who you think you're better than.
And-learn-how-to-hyphenate.
So the games that Microsoft plans to release is still slated for release, the backwards compatibility library they've been working to expand is still being expanded, and countries that they plan to sell the 360 in will still be selling the 360?
Since when is planning to do exactly what you originally planned today because that's still the plan news?
1) The problem was actually in IE's ability to fix and execute broken CSS code which allowed him to input a broken call to a script to get it past the filters and then have IE fix and execute it. THe author himself took down his profile to stop the spread and after a few hours of downtime the problem was fixed, in fact there's a /. article about it.
2) You have to enter your password every time you log out, which is every time you close your browser. Never close the browser never log out. Simple.
It could be just as effective as the company in the US that allowed disabled (or lazy) hunters to hunt via webcam controlled rifles. Just put a team in control of some fire support robots at hot spots and let the over priced camera sit in harms way rather than cheap human bodies.
The company I work for accomplishes much the same thing by taking the copper cores from TVs and Monitors as well as cables and selling them to local scrap yards. Damn shame they wont take the 50lb+ transfomers we regularly get in as anything but iron scrap.
Recycling of our old copper products is really the way to look here. Not only does it lessen the drain of our limited copper supply, which is good for everyone, but it lessens the impact on the environment of copper strip mining which releases unthinkable amounts of tainted water into the oceans around South America and New Zealand every year. Not only that, but it can be offered at a lower price because high purity copper is much easier to extract from bundles of wires made from high purity copper than from piles of ore from the ground.
I work for a recycling company and all of our theoretical input and output is calculated on excel as well as I'm sure a number of things on the financial end (that I have absolutely nothing to do with)
I wouldn't dispute that. Anyone who has seen the profit margins on the XBox (the bright red ones) knows that Microsoft is willnig to trade profit for marketshare. The dispute here is whether Taiwan not spending that 25% on Microsoft, assuming it even happens because of the fair trade laws, even hurts their market share. With an unknown amount of pirated copies of windows software, and an unknown number of future installs of pirated copies by IT porfessionals trying to maintain system uniformity on a smaller budget it's entirely possible that this move would have a completely negligiable effect.
I think you missed the point.
The point being, that Taiwan doesn't pay for most of their software to begin with due to lax to nonexistant copyright laws. If they aren't paying for it in the first place it doesn't matter if they cut the budget for it by 25%.
If they now only puchase 3 new copies instead of 4, but 4,000 are pirated it's not really a 25% impact.
He wasn't saying that 25% of Taiwanese governemtn sales aren't a big deal, he was saying that 25% of Taiwainese governemnt sales aren't really 25% of Taiwainese governemnts new Microsoft installs.
The easiest way to deal with the high voltage CRT is to just leave it unplugged for a couple of days. I work with litterally hundreds of CRTs a day and two days is more than enough time for any dangerous shock potential to dissipate fromt he capacitors.
That is assuming of course you can go without the system for two days. You could always do it in less and just be careful.
So I missed the page where they test 5 games, the results are still in AMDs favor but not by the same margins found in PC Gamer.
PC Gamer also tested F.E.A.R. with Nero transcoding a DVD in the background and it still defeated the PEE running only the game.
PC Gamer reviewed the EE955 and the FX-60 in their Febuary issue and stated:
"The FX-60 trounced the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 in test spins with Quake and F.E.A.R. Even more humiliating in F.E.A.R. the FX-60 came out ahead of the PEE 955 overclocked to 4ghz by 25FPS." ExtremeTech ran plenty of benchmark programs, but in real application tests there was no competition, The FX-60 showing to be around 30% faster in every benchmark.
Parent was modder down for being offtopic but his first thought was the same as mine. Even if you get a cheap processor like the 2400+ for $100 you're still going to blow another $100 atleast to get a videocard capable of running the latest batch of games, if not closer to $200 if you want the latest eye candy.
This isn't the first time I've seen the latest processot priced around $1000, the same thing happened when the first AMD64 FXs came out. If you want to see a real batch of money and powerhogs look at videocards. Only $2200 for cards in you new quad SLI rig!
I find it more than slightly humorous that the population of Slashdot is willing to put themselves on a pedistal long enough to bash the users of Myspace. Apparently after I went to bed last night the nerds became the highest class in the social order. They may not bathe, they may all die virgins, but on this day my friend, they can claim they are better than the population of another website.
Before you go speaking in generalizations about everyone who uses is site, even if they are by and large scene kids with poor taste in music who take bad photos, remember that the road goes both ways. There are plenty of useless trolls on Slashdot that you wouldn't want to be judged with, and there are scores of people on Myspace who feel the same way about all the people you're mocking them with.
1. You can tow a boat of any reasonable size, or a Uhaul trailer, or an ATV trailer with a 4 cylinder Honda Civic, I see it on a daily basis(not during the winter ofcourse) on the interstate of all places. Anyone who says they would have bought a car but they needed the towing capcity for their boat either lives in the mountain, only drives with a boat attached (in which case it probably would be better) or didn't put much thought into their actual needs.
2) The government can't regulate one form of vehicles out of existance, but they can make those vehicles accountable to the same standards of emissions and safety that all others are. If I take a car chassis and put some goofy 24 inch wheels on it and a biger cab, what do I have? Not a car of ofcourse, I have a truck, not even a light heavily regulated consumer truck, I have a practically emissions law free mini-freight truck.
3)Why are most SUVs based on car chassis? Because they provide a smoother ride and better handing. They also have terrible ground clearance and a soft suspension to make them more confortable. These are hardly improvements to its off road performance.
If 90% of SUV owners truly need an offroad towing vehicle, why aren't SUVs designed to be offroad towing vehicles? Why are they designed more like really big cars? Why do the ones I see always have an unblemished paint job but a nonexistant trailer hitch? Maybe where you live it's a differnt story, but in Wisconsin SUVs are for the wealthy, sportsmen drive pickups.
Other people have all brought up that other SUVs will tear right through your misguided armor but it's far more simple than that.
I used to drive down a long striaght road by the airport every day where speeds typically reach 50-60mph which is thankfully offset by a mile of visibility in every direction. There are still SUV drivers who decide to pull out of the one parkinglot driveway on this road, accross traffic, without considering traffic coming in either direction.
I may be driving an '89 Camaro that will undoubtably slide right under most SUVs, but it also weighs 3000lbs and at 50mphs I bet it would really ruin the day of anyone who pulled out in frount of it. Infact, I bet any SUV T-boned at highway speeds, esepcially due to their propencity to roll over, wouldn't be in the best circumstances.
THe moral of the story? Drunk drivers drive fast, and when you're not intersted in your own safety the safety of others is much easier to endanger. Driving an SUV wont protect you from anything that being a responcible driver wouldn't have.
Both Wikipedia (under the sexual orientation heading) and PFLAG state that sexual orientation is determined by being primarily attracted to members of the same sex, opposite sex, or both. Both are fairly reputable sources one reflective of educated internet users and the other of those who have taken sexual orientation as their focus. Furthermore, if Dr. Drew can be seen as indicative of any number of people in the medical profession, he states that generally those who would identify themselves as bisexual are typically in a state of orientation confusion caused by a traumatic lifestyle or problems during childhood and that when these issues are delt with a person will generally settle into one or the other groups.
What constitutes a serious public discussion?
Genetically modified crops are regulated by the Department of Agriculture if they're planted, they're regulated a second time by the FDA is they're sold for human consumption, they're further regulated in either case by the EPA for their effects on the environment.
You have the choice to either buy genetically altered crops or to buy organic foods. I'm sorry they didn't call you to sit in on any panals or help congress write the laws, but just becasue they didn't ask you personally doesn't mean that no one has talked about it and that you don't have any influence whatsoever. Maybe you should get in touch with Greenpeace and see if you can convince anymore African nations to starve their population by denying them food because it's been modified, here you'll have to settle for voting with your wallet.
And maybe in your situation that's a great idea, and for everyone one of you I'd bet there are 30 form filling desk jockies who would get a whole lot more done if they weren't able to check their email, shop ebay, and sit on instant messengers. Want an example? My mother manages those thirty, their primary responciblity is converting paper police records into the database as well as accessing that database to pull records out when they're requested. These people don't have access to the workings of said database, and even if they did they wouldn't understand it or beable to diagnose a problem much less fix it. Why do employees like these, who I would bet make up a far greater number than employees like you, need instant messengers or even internet access for that matter?