Well, no. It was the current up to date windows browser. Or should I say Microsoft browser. It doesn't matter if the IE6 team was disbanded or not either. It is what was available and what was the most current at the time.
Again, no.
If the team was dis-ban-ded and no up-dates were pro-vi-ded, then the brow-ser was not up to date. It was fucking a-ban-don-ware
Now, you have wisely chosen to drop the "up to date" phrase in this post, but you'd used it before. I'll grant you it was the most common Windows browser, but that doesn't make it any less of a piece of shit.
And yet 90% or better of the users only used IE6. And for the first 6 months after IE7 was available, the majority of users who had a choice didn't use it. It wasn't until microsoft forced it into existance with their automatic updates that it has gained the user base it has today, that has been what, 5 months ago?
Well, a good part of users had neither legitimate Windows installations nor the will to jump through hoops to make it work on non-legitimate installs.
The mere fact Microsoft forced the upgrade tells me that even they think IE6 is crap.
Wel, hoenstly, we have learned that you are willing to use abstract interpretations of things in order to press a point so you could get your way. That's ok it you where correct in the process. But you aren't and your ulterior goal really sucks ass big time.
Funnily, I'm prone to say that about you, and have even shown how you change your word choice when proven wrong.
No, not really. Because it is what was available to the majority of people. You are insane if you think the majority of people use fire fox or opera when IE6 was available. You mom's home network just isn't representative of the Internet as a whole.
Neither is your company or your country.
In Europe, Firefox has a much greater market share.
No, I am taking your example to an extreme to show how fucking retarded it is. Most people call that a straw man argument. A straw man argument isn't always bad because it can take an idea and apply it across the board to show how ridiculous the idea really is outside the tight little box that it makes sense to you in.
It really only shows how fucking retarded you are.
Lol.. Have they? And your point is what? It isn't hard to do for those of use not using cookie cutter programs to write their web code. Actually, it is rather simple to accomplish and to get a website to display properly simply by using style sheets based on the browser UA. It isn't that dificult, especially for a site like slashdot which I know for sure uses CSS and I know you can do this on the fly with perl scripts that pull the page your browser is displaying.
Yes, that is rather simple. What is not simple is making it look right in IE.
Are you working for Microsoft or something? There are things I have control over and things I don't. Picking and choosing whether to run a Microsoft OS isn't.
Ah, and the browser is the integral part of the OS, or what?
Do you have to run IE6 or do you want to run IE6?
Picking and choosing to do business with you or any company your associated with, I do. Unless of course you are associated with Microsoft which explains a lot. Perhaps you should make this known so we know how to regard your "forcing people to update" stance.
Stop trolling. You are too rabid to be able to insult me anyway.
A forced upgrade is something Microsoft has done on some occasions, one rather recent; I don't recall the details as I haven't really touched Windows in a while. But I do recall that an update was installed even if Automatic Updates were turned off, with no choice given to the user.
As you can see, I propose nothing of the sort
Actually, that would be an incorrect point. IE 7 wasn't available to the masses until October of 2006. That means until then, IE6 was the most current and up to date windows browser.
That, alas, is quite incorrect.
Until then, IE6 was the most current and up-to-date Internet Explorer.
I don't really recall for how long its development had been arrested/abandoned, but the whole IE team was disbanded at some point, and only some bugfixes were issued.
Practically every other browser on the Windows platform was more up-to-date than IE6, both feature-wise and standards compliance-wise.
So, kids, what have we learned today? That's right, current and up to date don't necessarily mean the same thing.
Something that was less then 2 years ago. Microsoft hasn't even dropped support for it either. So it is still a current browser. The creation date means nothing in this topic.
See above.
While the creation date may indeed be less-than-most relevant, the date IE development was arrested is highly relevant.
Hell, the Internet was created in the 80's and perfected for public use in the 90's. Does that mean the website shouldn't have to support it either?
OK, now you're just trolling.
It is only unprofitable if you are hiring inadequate retarde monkeys to do your website through cookie cutter programs designed to automate it. To that point, you really have no reason to be doing that.
Because nobody ever needed to re-code their site completely to work around IE's bugs and quirks.
Right.
And if you think you have the right to force people to use a specific piece of software, then I would be glad to know all the companies you are associated with so I can ensure I nor my clients will ever do business with them or you.
Yet you seem to be doing some business with Microsoft.
Am I the only one who finds this strangely... strange?
I can't believe that of all places, on slashdot, can I find someone arogent enought to think forced upgrades is a plus.
I wasnt't talking about forced upgrades; I was talking about strongly encouraged ones.
A forced upgrade is something Microsoft has done on some occasions, one rather recent; I don't recall the details as I haven't really touched Windows in a while. But I do recall that an update was installed even if Automatic Updates were turned off, with no choice given to the user.
As you can see, I propose nothing of the sort.
You aren't one of those retarded monkey I was talking about earlier are you?
I'm replying to a flamebaiting troll, so I must be.
Well, you could rant about the appearance in lynks. People would take you more seriously is lynks was the most popular browser out the and current less then a year ago. I personally use Fire Fox an reserve IE to those times something absolutely needs IE to render correctly. But using your example, every site should forgo the expense of testing on alternative browsers and just support IE7 only. Am I right?
No, you are not.
I mean saving money and being profitable by only serving the people that your think should have been forced to upgrade already.
I never said anything of the sort.
If Slashdot has, say only 5% of IE6 visitors, and supporting it would have taken as much resources it had taken to support all the rest, then it is plainly an unprofitable venture.
Get a grip on reality first, then reply.
Learn how to read. Then I'll introduce you to Mr Pot.
A relatively low flat fee would more than offset the hassle of downloading everything you could possibly want just to save a bit of money. The time it takes is much more expensive.
I say that as a person who copied his girlfriend's entire music library, some 40 gigabytes, then deleted most of it, and still hasn't found the time to relabel and sort it.
If I could pay a nominal fee to download when I think of something, I'd probably download a few albums or several songs each month after the first (I'd download a bit more at first to build up my library some).
I surely wouldn't go through all the things I'm going through now.
However, since nothing of the sort is available to me, I do what I can.
Should any of the artists come to my country, I can go to a concert. That's about it.
I get my music through file sharing. And I could even spare the money.
However, I cannot get an iTunes account, as it is not available in my country.
So I suffer the crappy rips, the mislabeled stuff and everything else, for I have neither the spare cash nor the desire to buy every single album to get the songs I want.
It's an adventure, at least. Music sharing is like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're goin' to get.
For whatever the purpose of the site is, if users have issues with it rendering in two year old browsers, you aren't doing your job right and should be banned from making websites.
The point is, though: IE6 is not two years old. It's closer to seven.
Supporting a broken browser for the sake of the few who either refuse to upgrade or have it tough thanks to their IT department may be found to be unprofitable and is sure to be found harmful ultimately.
IE6 is dangerous. The fewer sites work with it, the sooner people will be forced to switch.
Otherwise, I could start ranting that this crappy UI doesn't work in lynx and these asshole admins should just fix it. Wouldn't that make me an asshole.
IT doesn't even display the same across browsers. Load it in IE6, your see what I mean. I swear, they need to stop letting retarded monkeys play with the slashcode.
What does display the same across browsers, especially in IE6?
I'd wager Slashdot doesn't even have enough visits from IE6 users to justify the expense of making it work for that craptastic and outdated browser.
I mean, do webmasters test their sites in Netscape 4 and Firefox 1.5 and whatnot?
The current version of IE is 7; if you use anything older than that, well⦠it sucks to be you.
It sucks to be you if you use any kind of IE, in my opinion, but to each his own.
Once upon a time, I had twitter flagged as Friend here on Slashdot.
Seriously.
I'd read several of his posts that sounded well thought out and altogether reasonable.
Then, when his comments became a tad more noticeable (Friends get +1, Foes get +6; thus I never give Foes positive karma), I realized he was a twit. Now I foed all his known accounts and will continue to do so.
What I simply do not get is the religious fanatic-like persistence in calling Microsoft M$ (which, I'd wager, is one of the ways of discovering his sockpuppets; henceforth I shall call this kind of juvenile misspelling twittering) and equally fanatic-like paranoid delusions.
I have great experience with religious paranoid freaks (self-proclaimed prophets and their ilk), and twitter scores highly on all points.
Now, I really dislike Microsoft's software in general as well as their business practices. But twitter's behaviour would sooner drive me towards Microsoft than away from it.
Some people claim twitter is actually a Microsoft shill, playing a rabid fanatic in order to discredit F/OSS.
Sadly, he is not. He is merely a fanatic and a twit: I have never known anyone to play such a role for so long, paid or not.
The only thing I'd love to see is the left-hand side menu collapsed and floating, so that I don't have to scroll up when I need it.
I know that there was a Firefox extension that did that, but I can't remember which one it was. Or if it would still work.
The forced preview is also a thing many users had been asking for for ages.
I use E17 CVS as my sole WM, and I have to say, it's amazingly stable, fast and potentially good-looking. The core WM, panels, modules etc. are easily good-looking, funtional and stable enough for day-to-day use.
Maybe the developers should release a Beta 'core' snapshot, that doesn't include buggy/incomplete things such as the file manager or the Bling module, etc. but just a few panels, themes and useful modules (wlan, volume, Tclock, taskbar etc. etc.) - It would work wonders for Enlightenment's popularity.
If nothing else, I'd like to use E17 for any and all of my old computers. Especially if the steampunk mods I'm planning to do with a few friends become something more than plans; I recall E16 being extremely themeable, and I hope I can still make weird-shaped window borders in E17. And since it's blazingly fast, those computers actually become rather usable.
As for the bling module... did I understand correctly that it adds compositing to E?
I agree about E17. IIRC, they announced that they got accepted into the Summer of Code, and hope to have more interested coders stick around to help. It'd be interesting. I tried it last year when Debian Etch was made stable, I liked it, but not enough to use it regularly, especially if it isnt well supported. Even the forums are almost dead.
Well, we'll see what comes from it after SoC is over. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I use Gnome/Ubuntu now. I prefer it over KDE as something about KDE never sat right with me. I think when Ubuntu 8.04 comes out Ill try that and Kubuntu, and Xubuntu and see which I want to stick with on my laptop. Its aging (a T40) and Im afraid too much more in the way of progress will significantly hamper its capability. If KDE 4.x is noticeable faster than Gnome, I may get over it and use it or XFCE anyway.
As I said, KDE never used to sit with me either, but ever since 3.5 it's been rather more pleasant and polished than Gnome. KDE 4 shows lots of promise, so I think I'll give it a serious try as soon as I get a spot of time to play with it.
I'm not sure how Gnome is more minimalist, unless you mean fewer options and features. Then again, I'm not sure why people don't like having choice. Because more choice is not always better. Gnome does what I need it to do, and is as customizable as I need it to be. Given that, my pre-existing comfort with gnome, and my never having used KDE for any extended period of time, I have no desire or need to switch. And this is independent of whatever advantages KDE might have, when it comes to what you need it for.
On the other hand, I consider myself a former Gnome user.
The last version of Gnome I was happy with was 1.4, though I have continued to use it through 2.18 or even 2.20. Every single revision took some options away — some options I had been using, too. I'd never much liked KDE (admittedly, mainly because I found Gnome to be prettier, i.e. more themeable), but as far as Linux is concerned, I'm switching to KDE. The tipping point for me was when Gnome ruined the dictionary applet, BTW.
KDE 4 seems to have many of the things I like about OS X, which has recently become my primary OS. Not to mention that in the near future I should be able to put KDE on my Windows install, thus making my life with Windows easier. I just wonder whether there is a decent OS X-like dock for KDE now; taskbars annoy me.
My father and several other Linux newbies (and computer newbies, for that matter) just love the new KDE menu, so I switched all their computers to KDE-based distros (still 3.5, though).
And it looks good now.
The only environment whose looks I like better is E17, but I have no time to play with alpha software. It's a pity those guys don't do something more with their project, as it would be just perfect for older systems (their graphic library is amazingly fast IME).
When 19 out of 24 *VOTE NO* to a proposed standard
and it still passes, there's something wrong in
Norway.
The simplest answer is usually the best answer.
As for Croatia — I live there, so I should know — lots of things are rotten here, and this process and Microsoft's interference are among the least of them.
Apart from the irregularities listed in the Groklaw article, Microsoft Croatia is rather well connected to the government, which brought Microsoft to all the schools and most universities exclusively. So I am not in the least surprised on how the vote went, though the HULK (CLUG) guys have fought valiantly.
Lordy...the WORST thing is the world as a guy, is to let themselves get into the friend category. At that point...you aren't gonna get in her pants. At that point...well, it is usually best to cut ties....unless you can use that 'friendship' to meet her hot friends and get in their pants.
All hail the mighty chief Shitting Bull!
My girlfriend and I were rather good friends before we started dating.
What is more, I was in a steady relationship when we met and definitely had no interest in her; from what I'd gathered, she wasn't interested in me either (or anyone else, it seems).
Besides, a good network of female friends means they try to fix you up with their other friends, so you can't really lose.
If a girl doesn't want to date you, however, she'll use just about any excuse. If you're friends, then it's the good old "but I see you as a riend..." excuse, but really it's just an excuse. She doesn't want you and she doesn't want to be rude. It has nothing to do with being friends first meaning being friends exclusively.
Actually, this is not 'funny', but 'insightful', and it lays the ground to endless quarrels between men and women. Usually one couple at a time.
Ever heard: "If you don't understand, I'm not gonna tell you!"
Pop-quiz: Was the above statement said by a man or a woman?
Since computers are known to be of female persuasion[1], and this sounds horribly similar to "Bad command or file name." — well, the answer presents itself.
I might add that I have quite a number of attractive female friends I have no interest fucking.
Admittedly, my interest may get spiked a bit should I end up single and shoud they end up single and willing at the same time. But even that only goes for the rare few.
Hah. While you jest, I've seen quite a number of non-techies seriously annoyed with Windows — so annoyed, in fact, that one of my colleagues asked me a number of questions about my MacBook Pro just yesterday. It seems her next laptop will have nothing to do with Microsoft.
Linux has a bit lower penetration among non-technical users... then again, my father, stepmother, grandfather and grandmother are all running Kubuntu. Primarily thanks to me, though — my grandparents have absolutely no need for Windows, since they are complete newbies (I built their computer a few weeks ago).
Apple, however... it looks pretty, it's stable — I certainly cannot attest to any of the problems my Windows-based friends encounter — and it's not Microsoft.
Forget the geek cred; Microsoft's has been pretty much ruined for years. Now the non-geeks are catching on.
"The latest version of Safari for Windows makes a mockery of end user licensing agreements by only allowing the installation of Safari for Windows on Apple labeled hardware, thereby excluding most Windows PCs." Damn! Now, where did I put those Apple stickers?
Damn. I've always wondered what those stickers were for.
You have enlightened me. Thank you.
Or, if you have a MacBook, you could look into MultiAlarm, which makes use of MacBook's highly sensitive motion sensors.
It can lock the screen, play a sound file (I picked the extremely annoying high-pitched beep) when it is jiggled ever so slightly (adjustable sensitivity), take a pic of who/whatever's in front of it and ftp it to a server of your choosing and a few other options.
If you turn off the warning sound and set the sensitivity real high, anyone foolish enough to detach anything from your laptop will jiggle it enough to have his picture taken.
but the regexp performance problems are real, and I have encountered them before
That's all well and good, but unless you're parsing extremely large volumes of text, the issues are probably unimportant. Which is, of course, why profiling is so important. Throwing out a perfectly valid solution simply because it is, in theory (or even in practice) slow, is ridiculous if you have other performance problems elsewhere, or if the code is running at a speed that is sufficient for the problem at hand.
Then again, I'm a linguistics student. And we do quite a bit of work with corpora.
Until now, most of the work has been done in Perl (and some in Intex, Unitex or Nooj); recently some started doing things in C++.
Having read the article above, I think I'll start learning awk. Because we do have major performance issues.
And let me just say: damn. Studying is easy.
If I hope to get a job in hat department, I'll actually have to get something done;)
Which is why you use the third OS... Linux. Despite having little "official" drivers for things, it sure seems to be able to read just about every file format/filesystem out there.
Preaching the benefits of Linux to a Gentoo user. Yay you.
It's not a question of what I use; I can handle the issue quite smoothly while I keep to my computers.
When I need to use it on a wholly different PC, that's when shit hits the fan.
Now, I know about MacDisk for PC; I didn't know until now that there was a utility that lets me use an NTFS formatted iPod on a Mac. Never bothered to look for it after I'd already re-formatted it to HFS+.
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Well, no. It was the current up to date windows browser. Or should I say Microsoft browser. It doesn't matter if the IE6 team was disbanded or not either. It is what was available and what was the most current at the time.
Again, no.
If the team was dis-ban-ded and no up-dates were pro-vi-ded, then the brow-ser was not up to date. It was fucking a-ban-don-ware
Now, you have wisely chosen to drop the "up to date" phrase in this post, but you'd used it before. I'll grant you it was the most common Windows browser, but that doesn't make it any less of a piece of shit.
And yet 90% or better of the users only used IE6. And for the first 6 months after IE7 was available, the majority of users who had a choice didn't use it. It wasn't until microsoft forced it into existance with their automatic updates that it has gained the user base it has today, that has been what, 5 months ago?
Well, a good part of users had neither legitimate Windows installations nor the will to jump through hoops to make it work on non-legitimate installs.
The mere fact Microsoft forced the upgrade tells me that even they think IE6 is crap.
Wel, hoenstly, we have learned that you are willing to use abstract interpretations of things in order to press a point so you could get your way. That's ok it you where correct in the process. But you aren't and your ulterior goal really sucks ass big time.
Funnily, I'm prone to say that about you, and have even shown how you change your word choice when proven wrong.
No, not really. Because it is what was available to the majority of people. You are insane if you think the majority of people use fire fox or opera when IE6 was available. You mom's home network just isn't representative of the Internet as a whole.
Neither is your company or your country.
In Europe, Firefox has a much greater market share.
No, I am taking your example to an extreme to show how fucking retarded it is. Most people call that a straw man argument. A straw man argument isn't always bad because it can take an idea and apply it across the board to show how ridiculous the idea really is outside the tight little box that it makes sense to you in.
It really only shows how fucking retarded you are.
Lol.. Have they? And your point is what? It isn't hard to do for those of use not using cookie cutter programs to write their web code. Actually, it is rather simple to accomplish and to get a website to display properly simply by using style sheets based on the browser UA. It isn't that dificult, especially for a site like slashdot which I know for sure uses CSS and I know you can do this on the fly with perl scripts that pull the page your browser is displaying.
Yes, that is rather simple. What is not simple is making it look right in IE.
Are you working for Microsoft or something? There are things I have control over and things I don't. Picking and choosing whether to run a Microsoft OS isn't.
Ah, and the browser is the integral part of the OS, or what?
Do you have to run IE6 or do you want to run IE6?
Picking and choosing to do business with you or any company your associated with, I do. Unless of course you are associated with Microsoft which explains a lot. Perhaps you should make this known so we know how to regard your "forcing people to update" stance.
Stop trolling. You are too rabid to be able to insult me anyway.
A forced upgrade is something Microsoft has done on some occasions, one rather recent; I don't recall the details as I haven't really touched Windows in a while. But I do recall that an update was installed even if Automatic Updates were turned off, with no choice given to the user. As you can see, I propose nothing of the sort
I don't know why your changin
That, alas, is quite incorrect.
Until then, IE6 was the most current and up-to-date Internet Explorer.
I don't really recall for how long its development had been arrested/abandoned, but the whole IE team was disbanded at some point, and only some bugfixes were issued.
Practically every other browser on the Windows platform was more up-to-date than IE6, both feature-wise and standards compliance-wise.
So, kids, what have we learned today? That's right, current and up to date don't necessarily mean the same thing.
Something that was less then 2 years ago. Microsoft hasn't even dropped support for it either. So it is still a current browser. The creation date means nothing in this topic.See above.
While the creation date may indeed be less-than-most relevant, the date IE development was arrested is highly relevant.
Hell, the Internet was created in the 80's and perfected for public use in the 90's. Does that mean the website shouldn't have to support it either?OK, now you're just trolling.
It is only unprofitable if you are hiring inadequate retarde monkeys to do your website through cookie cutter programs designed to automate it. To that point, you really have no reason to be doing that.Because nobody ever needed to re-code their site completely to work around IE's bugs and quirks.
Right.
And if you think you have the right to force people to use a specific piece of software, then I would be glad to know all the companies you are associated with so I can ensure I nor my clients will ever do business with them or you.Yet you seem to be doing some business with Microsoft.
I can't believe that of all places, on slashdot, can I find someone arogent enought to think forced upgrades is a plus.Am I the only one who finds this strangely... strange?
I wasnt't talking about forced upgrades; I was talking about strongly encouraged ones.
A forced upgrade is something Microsoft has done on some occasions, one rather recent; I don't recall the details as I haven't really touched Windows in a while. But I do recall that an update was installed even if Automatic Updates were turned off, with no choice given to the user.
You aren't one of those retarded monkey I was talking about earlier are you?As you can see, I propose nothing of the sort.
I'm replying to a flamebaiting troll, so I must be.
Well, you could rant about the appearance in lynks. People would take you more seriously is lynks was the most popular browser out the and current less then a year ago. I personally use Fire Fox an reserve IE to those times something absolutely needs IE to render correctly. But using your example, every site should forgo the expense of testing on alternative browsers and just support IE7 only. Am I right?No, you are not.
I mean saving money and being profitable by only serving the people that your think should have been forced to upgrade already.I never said anything of the sort.
Get a grip on reality first, then reply.If Slashdot has, say only 5% of IE6 visitors, and supporting it would have taken as much resources it had taken to support all the rest, then it is plainly an unprofitable venture.
Learn how to read. Then I'll introduce you to Mr Pot.
Pol Pot, by preference.
A relatively low flat fee would more than offset the hassle of downloading everything you could possibly want just to save a bit of money. The time it takes is much more expensive.
I say that as a person who copied his girlfriend's entire music library, some 40 gigabytes, then deleted most of it, and still hasn't found the time to relabel and sort it.
If I could pay a nominal fee to download when I think of something, I'd probably download a few albums or several songs each month after the first (I'd download a bit more at first to build up my library some).
I surely wouldn't go through all the things I'm going through now.
However, since nothing of the sort is available to me, I do what I can.
Should any of the artists come to my country, I can go to a concert. That's about it.
I get my music through file sharing. And I could even spare the money.
However, I cannot get an iTunes account, as it is not available in my country.
So I suffer the crappy rips, the mislabeled stuff and everything else, for I have neither the spare cash nor the desire to buy every single album to get the songs I want.
It's an adventure, at least. Music sharing is like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're goin' to get.
The point is, though: IE6 is not two years old. It's closer to seven.
Supporting a broken browser for the sake of the few who either refuse to upgrade or have it tough thanks to their IT department may be found to be unprofitable and is sure to be found harmful ultimately.
IE6 is dangerous. The fewer sites work with it, the sooner people will be forced to switch.
Otherwise, I could start ranting that this crappy UI doesn't work in lynx and these asshole admins should just fix it. Wouldn't that make me an asshole.
What does display the same across browsers, especially in IE6?
I'd wager Slashdot doesn't even have enough visits from IE6 users to justify the expense of making it work for that craptastic and outdated browser.
I mean, do webmasters test their sites in Netscape 4 and Firefox 1.5 and whatnot?
The current version of IE is 7; if you use anything older than that, well⦠it sucks to be you.
It sucks to be you if you use any kind of IE, in my opinion, but to each his own.
Once upon a time, I had twitter flagged as Friend here on Slashdot.
Seriously.
I'd read several of his posts that sounded well thought out and altogether reasonable.
Then, when his comments became a tad more noticeable (Friends get +1, Foes get +6; thus I never give Foes positive karma), I realized he was a twit. Now I foed all his known accounts and will continue to do so.
What I simply do not get is the religious fanatic-like persistence in calling Microsoft M$ (which, I'd wager, is one of the ways of discovering his sockpuppets; henceforth I shall call this kind of juvenile misspelling twittering) and equally fanatic-like paranoid delusions.
I have great experience with religious paranoid freaks (self-proclaimed prophets and their ilk), and twitter scores highly on all points.
Now, I really dislike Microsoft's software in general as well as their business practices. But twitter's behaviour would sooner drive me towards Microsoft than away from it.
Some people claim twitter is actually a Microsoft shill, playing a rabid fanatic in order to discredit F/OSS.
Sadly, he is not. He is merely a fanatic and a twit: I have never known anyone to play such a role for so long, paid or not.
I like it as well.
The only thing I'd love to see is the left-hand side menu collapsed and floating, so that I don't have to scroll up when I need it.
I know that there was a Firefox extension that did that, but I can't remember which one it was. Or if it would still work.
The forced preview is also a thing many users had been asking for for ages.
To what? OMG PWNIEZ?
Maybe the developers should release a Beta 'core' snapshot, that doesn't include buggy/incomplete things such as the file manager or the Bling module, etc. but just a few panels, themes and useful modules (wlan, volume, Tclock, taskbar etc. etc.) - It would work wonders for Enlightenment's popularity.
By the way, you can see a screenshot of my E17 desktop here: http://karbonkid.deviantart.com/art/My-new-e17-desktop-76627256
Nice.
If nothing else, I'd like to use E17 for any and all of my old computers. Especially if the steampunk mods I'm planning to do with a few friends become something more than plans; I recall E16 being extremely themeable, and I hope I can still make weird-shaped window borders in E17. And since it's blazingly fast, those computers actually become rather usable.
As for the bling module... did I understand correctly that it adds compositing to E?
Well, we'll see what comes from it after SoC is over. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I use Gnome/Ubuntu now. I prefer it over KDE as something about KDE never sat right with me. I think when Ubuntu 8.04 comes out Ill try that and Kubuntu, and Xubuntu and see which I want to stick with on my laptop. Its aging (a T40) and Im afraid too much more in the way of progress will significantly hamper its capability. If KDE 4.x is noticeable faster than Gnome, I may get over it and use it or XFCE anyway.As I said, KDE never used to sit with me either, but ever since 3.5 it's been rather more pleasant and polished than Gnome. KDE 4 shows lots of promise, so I think I'll give it a serious try as soon as I get a spot of time to play with it.
On the other hand, I consider myself a former Gnome user.
The last version of Gnome I was happy with was 1.4, though I have continued to use it through 2.18 or even 2.20. Every single revision took some options away — some options I had been using, too. I'd never much liked KDE (admittedly, mainly because I found Gnome to be prettier, i.e. more themeable), but as far as Linux is concerned, I'm switching to KDE. The tipping point for me was when Gnome ruined the dictionary applet, BTW.
KDE 4 seems to have many of the things I like about OS X, which has recently become my primary OS. Not to mention that in the near future I should be able to put KDE on my Windows install, thus making my life with Windows easier. I just wonder whether there is a decent OS X-like dock for KDE now; taskbars annoy me.
My father and several other Linux newbies (and computer newbies, for that matter) just love the new KDE menu, so I switched all their computers to KDE-based distros (still 3.5, though).
And it looks good now.
The only environment whose looks I like better is E17, but I have no time to play with alpha software. It's a pity those guys don't do something more with their project, as it would be just perfect for older systems (their graphic library is amazingly fast IME).
and it still passes, there's something wrong in
Norway.
The simplest answer is usually the best answer.
As for Croatia — I live there, so I should know — lots of things are rotten here, and this process and Microsoft's interference are among the least of them.
Apart from the irregularities listed in the Groklaw article, Microsoft Croatia is rather well connected to the government, which brought Microsoft to all the schools and most universities exclusively. So I am not in the least surprised on how the vote went, though the HULK (CLUG) guys have fought valiantly.
Lordy...the WORST thing is the world as a guy, is to let themselves get into the friend category. At that point...you aren't gonna get in her pants. At that point...well, it is usually best to cut ties....unless you can use that 'friendship' to meet her hot friends and get in their pants.
All hail the mighty chief Shitting Bull!
My girlfriend and I were rather good friends before we started dating.
What is more, I was in a steady relationship when we met and definitely had no interest in her; from what I'd gathered, she wasn't interested in me either (or anyone else, it seems).
Besides, a good network of female friends means they try to fix you up with their other friends, so you can't really lose.
If a girl doesn't want to date you, however, she'll use just about any excuse. If you're friends, then it's the good old "but I see you as a riend..." excuse, but really it's just an excuse. She doesn't want you and she doesn't want to be rude. It has nothing to do with being friends first meaning being friends exclusively.
Ever heard: "If you don't understand, I'm not gonna tell you!"
Pop-quiz: Was the above statement said by a man or a woman?
Since computers are known to be of female persuasion[1], and this sounds horribly similar to "Bad command or file name." — well, the answer presents itself.
[1] i.e. bitches.
I might add that I have quite a number of attractive female friends I have no interest fucking.
Admittedly, my interest may get spiked a bit should I end up single and shoud they end up single and willing at the same time. But even that only goes for the rare few.
Believe it or not, I would not marry her.
Hell, I would hardly be able to be in the same room with her for any length of time, especially if she actually spoke.
Hah. While you jest, I've seen quite a number of non-techies seriously annoyed with Windows — so annoyed, in fact, that one of my colleagues asked me a number of questions about my MacBook Pro just yesterday. It seems her next laptop will have nothing to do with Microsoft.
Linux has a bit lower penetration among non-technical users... then again, my father, stepmother, grandfather and grandmother are all running Kubuntu. Primarily thanks to me, though — my grandparents have absolutely no need for Windows, since they are complete newbies (I built their computer a few weeks ago).
Apple, however... it looks pretty, it's stable — I certainly cannot attest to any of the problems my Windows-based friends encounter — and it's not Microsoft.
Forget the geek cred; Microsoft's has been pretty much ruined for years. Now the non-geeks are catching on.
Damn. I've always wondered what those stickers were for.
You have enlightened me. Thank you.
No, I downloaded MultiAlarm.app.
I'm quite sure that's its name, as it says so right there in my dock.
I will look into iAlertU, though, as well.
MultiAlarm, which plays an extremely annoying high-pitched sound file - 175.95$
Getting your laptop smashed by a sledgehammer after your friendly co-worker accidently moved it - Priceless!
First, it only plays the annoying sound file if you select that option, which is not the interesting one here.
Second, $175.95? I remember downloading it for free. What on Earth are you talking about?
5:01 in the reception area. But you can also move an existing fight to the reception area.
Sounds like a fun place to work at.
It can lock the screen, play a sound file (I picked the extremely annoying high-pitched beep) when it is jiggled ever so slightly (adjustable sensitivity), take a pic of who/whatever's in front of it and ftp it to a server of your choosing and a few other options.
If you turn off the warning sound and set the sensitivity real high, anyone foolish enough to detach anything from your laptop will jiggle it enough to have his picture taken.
That's all well and good, but unless you're parsing extremely large volumes of text, the issues are probably unimportant. Which is, of course, why profiling is so important. Throwing out a perfectly valid solution simply because it is, in theory (or even in practice) slow, is ridiculous if you have other performance problems elsewhere, or if the code is running at a speed that is sufficient for the problem at hand.
Then again, I'm a linguistics student. And we do quite a bit of work with corpora.
Until now, most of the work has been done in Perl (and some in Intex, Unitex or Nooj); recently some started doing things in C++.
Having read the article above, I think I'll start learning awk. Because we do have major performance issues.
And let me just say: damn. Studying is easy. ;)
If I hope to get a job in hat department, I'll actually have to get something done
Preaching the benefits of Linux to a Gentoo user. Yay you.
It's not a question of what I use; I can handle the issue quite smoothly while I keep to my computers.
When I need to use it on a wholly different PC, that's when shit hits the fan.
Now, I know about MacDisk for PC; I didn't know until now that there was a utility that lets me use an NTFS formatted iPod on a Mac. Never bothered to look for it after I'd already re-formatted it to HFS+.