How about all the other kids who, instead of playing with their computer's fundamentals, would rather play with word-processing, art, design, or communication? These activities are all stimulating to a kid's ability in different ways, and it seems that being forced to mess around with their OS would detract from their learning in these other regards.
Or maybe you'll just end up with a lot of $100, laptop-shaped holes in the wall. Mud brick wall.
Look, they can still install a Linux distro, if that's what they want to do, even if OS X comes preinstalled. Those who want to tinker with their operating system will undoubtedly do just that. Those who want to tinker with other stuff--Wikipedia, email to the developed world, whatever--they probably won't want to uninstall OS X, and as far as they're concerned, they'll be the better for it.
I daresay it'll be far easier, for most people, to tinker with OS X than to tinker with Linux. Especially if "tinkering" with OS X implies poking around in configuration files with Property List Editor, and "tinkering" with Linux implies learning C/C++, memorizing the command-line switches to GCC, and recompiling your kernel.
I can't resist commenting on your sig. Are you a fucking moron? I've read all the conspiracy theories on WTC7. I saw the building collapse with my own two eyes, in person, and let's get one thing clear: that building went down because fires were raging on multiple floors, assisted by diesel fuel tanks located (stupidly, yes) on the lower floors to power generators. "Pulling" the building means the fire department pulled all personnel out, leaving the building as a lost cause. They "pulled" 90 West, too--the building where I worked--and that building was lucky enough to survive structurally intact. There was no deliberate demolition of 90 West, and believe me, there was no deliberate demolition of WTC7.
Not like any of this will convince you. If you get your kicks from conspiracy theories, that's great--there's certainly no shortage of valid things to be suspicious about, given the antics of this fucking administration. How about directing your energies towards those questions, instead of insulting everyone's intelligence by questioning the WTC7 collapse?
I guess you have me confused with someone else. FYI, I think he was riffing on the saying "it's all Greek to me," as in, you were babbling meaninglessly. And yours is the sort of babble, incidentally, that probably does more to drive voters into the hands of the Republicans than any AM talk radio drivel ever could. Attacking people over things they didn't say certainly doesn't help, either.
Unless, of course, advances in medicine and technology manage to increase the sustainable population size. Something like, I don't know, a vaccine? That would be really swell.
Look, man, I'm proud to call myself a liberal (and I live in New York!), but please, please, please shut up. It's psychopaths like you that turns the non-raging majority off to our message, and we all just wish you'd just go away and stop making the rest of us on the left look like idiots.
Allofmp3.com says to me, "I don't give a shit about doing the right thing (supporting the artists), so long as I'm on the right side of the law." Personally, I think that's even more disgusting than outright piracy, since then at least you'd have the balls to risk getting caught and punished for your blatant freeloading. But to each his own, I suppose.
Yeah, exactly... housing's expensive because this a big city with a lot of stuff going on, and the reason for that is just the right rules and regulations so we can all get along with one another and make all that stuff go on. That includes zoning.
Houston sucks because the air quality's worse, transportation is worse, sprawl is much, much worse--these first three due to lack of zoning laws--architecture and art's worse, local media's worse, music's worse, everything just sucks from a certain perspective. You get long sightlines, I suppose, but what's the point you can barely see five yards through all the smog? Crimson sunsets only get you so far. You mention the roads being better, but why bother driving when in NYC you can just walk downstairs to get whatever you need? I don't see it. I mean, there's no accounting for taste, but the housing market agrees that NYC's the more desirable good.
Yeah, I know. I just wanted to respond to the original poster's implication that no good can come of government intervention. Possibly I was reading into it a bit too much, but I think his replies pretty much confirm his repugnantly self-righteous libertarian ideals (tee hee), so there you go.
Maybe this explains why the open source model is so good at writing software with user interfaces so inscrutably craptastic they practically require support.
Oops, I mean neither are conservative in the sense that they'd get rid of quality-of-life regulations. (In fact, by your definitions, you might consider Giuiliani the more liberal--he's the one who embarked on the quality-of-life crusade, with all the additional bureaucracy and enforcement to support it.)
Neither Dinkins nor Giuilani are liberal in the sense that they'd do away with zoning, labor law, consumer safety regulations, and all the rest. It's pretty clear you don't know much about NYC or Houston, given that you seem to have the idea that the latter is a more pleasant place to live. Well, who knows? Maybe it is, for people who want the freedom to build skyscrapers that block light, who don't mind out-of-control noise and air pollution, who don't want their government telling them which restaurants serve clean food and which ones are too filthy to let stay open. But me, I'll take a NYC, London, or Tokyo.
It's better now. However, even during the Dinkins administration--hell, maybe even throughout the worst of the '70s, judging by international immigration patterns--it was still preferable to places governed (and I use that word loosely) by laws lacking all those quality-of-life regulations you're so eager to dismiss as "leftist."
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So you relocate the menubar by dragging the taskbar. Are you stupid?
How about all the other kids who, instead of playing with their computer's fundamentals, would rather play with word-processing, art, design, or communication? These activities are all stimulating to a kid's ability in different ways, and it seems that being forced to mess around with their OS would detract from their learning in these other regards.
Or maybe you'll just end up with a lot of $100, laptop-shaped holes in the wall. Mud brick wall.
Look, they can still install a Linux distro, if that's what they want to do, even if OS X comes preinstalled. Those who want to tinker with their operating system will undoubtedly do just that. Those who want to tinker with other stuff--Wikipedia, email to the developed world, whatever--they probably won't want to uninstall OS X, and as far as they're concerned, they'll be the better for it.
I daresay it'll be far easier, for most people, to tinker with OS X than to tinker with Linux. Especially if "tinkering" with OS X implies poking around in configuration files with Property List Editor, and "tinkering" with Linux implies learning C/C++, memorizing the command-line switches to GCC, and recompiling your kernel.
...Marathon 2: Durandal, and Marathon Infinity. You know, back from before Bungie became Microsoft.
I can't resist commenting on your sig. Are you a fucking moron? I've read all the conspiracy theories on WTC7. I saw the building collapse with my own two eyes, in person, and let's get one thing clear: that building went down because fires were raging on multiple floors, assisted by diesel fuel tanks located (stupidly, yes) on the lower floors to power generators. "Pulling" the building means the fire department pulled all personnel out, leaving the building as a lost cause. They "pulled" 90 West, too--the building where I worked--and that building was lucky enough to survive structurally intact. There was no deliberate demolition of 90 West, and believe me, there was no deliberate demolition of WTC7.
Not like any of this will convince you. If you get your kicks from conspiracy theories, that's great--there's certainly no shortage of valid things to be suspicious about, given the antics of this fucking administration. How about directing your energies towards those questions, instead of insulting everyone's intelligence by questioning the WTC7 collapse?
You're so desperate for attention you want me to copy and paste what I've already told you twice? Forget it.
What the hell are you talking about?
I guess you have me confused with someone else. FYI, I think he was riffing on the saying "it's all Greek to me," as in, you were babbling meaninglessly. And yours is the sort of babble, incidentally, that probably does more to drive voters into the hands of the Republicans than any AM talk radio drivel ever could. Attacking people over things they didn't say certainly doesn't help, either.
Er, zoning laws give you New Yorks and Chicagos. Lack of zoning gives you cities like Houston. And you think zoning is evil?
"me too!"--It's like a command line for the GUI, except better, and with automatic tab completion. Just brilliant.
Unless, of course, advances in medicine and technology manage to increase the sustainable population size. Something like, I don't know, a vaccine? That would be really swell.
O...k...
How old are you? Twelve?
Look, man, I'm proud to call myself a liberal (and I live in New York!), but please, please, please shut up. It's psychopaths like you that turns the non-raging majority off to our message, and we all just wish you'd just go away and stop making the rest of us on the left look like idiots.
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I guess you missed "...that work very well together" in the parent post.
Allofmp3.com says to me, "I don't give a shit about doing the right thing (supporting the artists), so long as I'm on the right side of the law." Personally, I think that's even more disgusting than outright piracy, since then at least you'd have the balls to risk getting caught and punished for your blatant freeloading. But to each his own, I suppose.
Yeah, exactly... housing's expensive because this a big city with a lot of stuff going on, and the reason for that is just the right rules and regulations so we can all get along with one another and make all that stuff go on. That includes zoning.
Houston sucks because the air quality's worse, transportation is worse, sprawl is much, much worse--these first three due to lack of zoning laws--architecture and art's worse, local media's worse, music's worse, everything just sucks from a certain perspective. You get long sightlines, I suppose, but what's the point you can barely see five yards through all the smog? Crimson sunsets only get you so far. You mention the roads being better, but why bother driving when in NYC you can just walk downstairs to get whatever you need? I don't see it. I mean, there's no accounting for taste, but the housing market agrees that NYC's the more desirable good.
Yeah, I know. I just wanted to respond to the original poster's implication that no good can come of government intervention. Possibly I was reading into it a bit too much, but I think his replies pretty much confirm his repugnantly self-righteous libertarian ideals (tee hee), so there you go.
I like these better:
What sort of Hipster are you? -- The Artiste
What kind of postmodernist are you!? -- The Theory Slut
Thanks, but hasn't everyone on the internet seen that by now? :-)
Maybe this explains why the open source model is so good at writing software with user interfaces so inscrutably craptastic they practically require support.
Oops, I mean neither are conservative in the sense that they'd get rid of quality-of-life regulations. (In fact, by your definitions, you might consider Giuiliani the more liberal--he's the one who embarked on the quality-of-life crusade, with all the additional bureaucracy and enforcement to support it.)
Neither Dinkins nor Giuilani are liberal in the sense that they'd do away with zoning, labor law, consumer safety regulations, and all the rest. It's pretty clear you don't know much about NYC or Houston, given that you seem to have the idea that the latter is a more pleasant place to live. Well, who knows? Maybe it is, for people who want the freedom to build skyscrapers that block light, who don't mind out-of-control noise and air pollution, who don't want their government telling them which restaurants serve clean food and which ones are too filthy to let stay open. But me, I'll take a NYC, London, or Tokyo.
It's better now. However, even during the Dinkins administration--hell, maybe even throughout the worst of the '70s, judging by international immigration patterns--it was still preferable to places governed (and I use that word loosely) by laws lacking all those quality-of-life regulations you're so eager to dismiss as "leftist."
Yeah, and housing prices in NYC are high for a reason: it's where people would rather live.