"Divers" are allowed to zap the Great Barrier reef to keep it alive, but when I taze homeless people to make sure they're still alive, suddenly it's a crime?!?
Fast, cheap (efficient) and reliable (robust, long lasting): pick 2.
By and large, stuff today is not reliable (robust, long lasting). In theory, then, the vast majority of it should be fast and cheap.
That's because "fast and cheap" is more profitable.
In reality, if you follow the "pick 2" rule and choose to buy something expensive, anticipating that it will be more robust than the cheap alternatives, it turns out to be just as crap as the cheap options.
This is because making something "fast and cheap" that APPEARS to be quality, is more profitable than actually building quality.
Take a ride through North Dakota and tell me how little available land there is...
Oh yeah, and when New York sinks into the ocean - those North Dakotans are *totally* going to WELCOME all the refugees from the city, and just hand out land to them like candy, eh?
When I took an AI class a few years ago, one of my favorite things the professor said was, "What we called 'AI' yesterday is simply the algorithm for how we do a thing today."
Exactly!^
Far from being a failure, AI has become so successful its invisible.
AC's not a Troll for disagreeing with me, he's a Troll for making unwarranted assumptions and being deliberately contrarian despite being obviously ignorant about what they are commenting on.
Therefore, Troll
Disagree with me all you want, as long as you can intelligently lay out your points and reasoning.
None of the tings you mention actually contain any real artificial intelligence in the sense of being able to making decisions in the face of unknown circumstances and data sources.
They do actually.
Roombas have to be able to adapt to unknown obstacles and uncertain sensory input (could get blocked, partially occluded etc...).
Embedded fuzzy logic controllers (also used in anti-lock brakes) have to be able to maintain a steady output signal given uncertain input (wear and tear on the mechanics, grit...) that can vary wildly in an unknown manner.
OCR systems need to be able to tell the difference between a cheque and unknown things, like night club flyers, and they deal with hand written characters which are by definition uncertain and highly variable.
Regardless though, "being able to making decisions in the face of unknown circumstances and data sources" is not an accepted definitive description of AI. AI encompasses a lot more than that, and some forms of AI only deal with "making decisions" in the most abstract sense, as opposed to like an intelligent agent, yet are still considered AI.
..."face detection" is not AI. Its a really big and fast database. Filled with faces the police know...
...and just HOW do the faces "police know" get matched to this database? Explain without reference to AI.
..."fuzzy logic controllers in washing machines" A set amount of power, water, weight of laundry is not AI.
No it isn't, but you're a fool if you think your washing machine is that simple these days. It DOES take fuzzy logic to adapt to things like wear and tear on the machine, arbitrarily changing water pressures and temperatures, etc... and still maintain consistent performance.
"'finding directions" with maps that are created and set.
...and using AI algorithms to find the best path.
Blah blah blah... you get the point. You've deliberately downplayed the AI aspect of each point by the framing of your words - which you wouldn't be able to to do if you didn't at least implicitly understand what AI actually means. For each point I can show you where the AI is: in the bits you left out on purpose.
Another AI winter...
"AI winter" is either a myth or only a social reality in the interest of the lay populace. There has been continuous and steady progress in the field, regardless of it's zeitgeist share.
It's easy for someone like you to dismiss all those things as "not AI" because you've had the advantage of being able to take them for granted, they are so useful they've become mundane.
The truth of the matter is that all those things are the fruits of AI research, so saying they're "not AI" is about as wrong headed as saying Newton's work wasn't physics because he didn't account for relativity or produce a "theory of everything".
It's like saying "gold is worth more than money!" - totally meaningless.
One (gold, developers) is a commodity that IS exchanged, the other (money) is the medium OF exchange.
Saying that "commodity X" is worth more than "exchange medium Y" makes no sense because a commodity CANNOT be worth "more" or "less" than the medium of exchange used - it can only ever be worth a specified amount of Y.
Slashdot Mirror
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Bloody Slashdot and their "no edits no deletes" BS...
Slashdot should change there motto from: "News for Nerds" to: "Yesterday's News Today!"
Every now and then the cafeteria cash registers won't accept debit/credit cards.
LOL! Move to a real country with modern tech then!
Imagination. Current "A.I." is all programming with rules and structures in place to replicate human decision-making, but its still programmed rules.
Nope. Starting premise 100% incorrect, ignoring the rest.
Because AI doesn't really exist. What people call "AI" are just parlor tricks and computers running programs.
LOL - neither does "natural intelligence" either then!
...what people call "intelligence" is just a bunch of basic emotional instincts and unconsciously executed heuristics.
Prove there's an actual difference.
Can people?
Bugs are animals, and many of them are thriving on our leftovers...
Nope.
Bugs dying off too:
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
The first step to protecting a future for our grand kids is to recognize there is NOT a global solution.
Disagree.
The first step in protecting our grandkids is wiping out any animals that may be potential threats.
That's BS.
We can do better than that! I have faith in humanity.
You spelled Blu-ray wrong.
Oh, so you were confused about what they meant? No? (obviously not)
Then you're just being a dick for the sake of it...
No it can't.
Useless answer.
Enabling premise is false.
Pointless redundant statement.
How is this better than AES-CMAC? Quantum only affects asymmetric cypher's ... as far as I know..
Quantum computing can produce and try EVERY possible solution to a given problem simultaneously. How would that not break symmetric encryption too?
"Divers" are allowed to zap the Great Barrier reef to keep it alive, but when I taze homeless people to make sure they're still alive, suddenly it's a crime?!?
By and large, stuff today is not reliable (robust, long lasting). In theory, then, the vast majority of it should be fast and cheap.
That's because "fast and cheap" is more profitable.
In reality, if you follow the "pick 2" rule and choose to buy something expensive, anticipating that it will be more robust than the cheap alternatives, it turns out to be just as crap as the cheap options.
This is because making something "fast and cheap" that APPEARS to be quality, is more profitable than actually building quality.
Fast, cheap (efficient) and reliable (robust, long lasting): pick 2.
...this has already happened.
I mean are they counting robotic car assembly as "workplace tasks"? What about assembly line QA by image recognition? Is that a "workplace task"?
To vaguely defined to be much more than bullshit click bait.
Take a ride through North Dakota and tell me how little available land there is...
Oh yeah, and when New York sinks into the ocean - those North Dakotans are *totally* going to WELCOME all the refugees from the city, and just hand out land to them like candy, eh?
...will never exceed the bug *creation* rate of humans!
Humans: 1
AI: 0
Bah! We can still make fun of fat white conservative dudes! Do we REALLY need anyone else to mock?!? :P
When I took an AI class a few years ago, one of my favorite things the professor said was, "What we called 'AI' yesterday is simply the algorithm for how we do a thing today."
Exactly!^
Far from being a failure, AI has become so successful its invisible.
Not everyone that disagrees with you is a troll.
Agreed.
AC's not a Troll for disagreeing with me, he's a Troll for making unwarranted assumptions and being deliberately contrarian despite being obviously ignorant about what they are commenting on.
Therefore, Troll
Disagree with me all you want, as long as you can intelligently lay out your points and reasoning.
You are clearly uneducated, Troll.
If you actually wish to enlighten yourself, I'd start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
None of the tings you mention actually contain any real artificial intelligence in the sense of being able to making decisions in the face of unknown circumstances and data sources.
They do actually.
Roombas have to be able to adapt to unknown obstacles and uncertain sensory input (could get blocked, partially occluded etc...).
Embedded fuzzy logic controllers (also used in anti-lock brakes) have to be able to maintain a steady output signal given uncertain input (wear and tear on the mechanics, grit...) that can vary wildly in an unknown manner.
OCR systems need to be able to tell the difference between a cheque and unknown things, like night club flyers, and they deal with hand written characters which are by definition uncertain and highly variable.
Regardless though, "being able to making decisions in the face of unknown circumstances and data sources" is not an accepted definitive description of AI. AI encompasses a lot more than that, and some forms of AI only deal with "making decisions" in the most abstract sense, as opposed to like an intelligent agent, yet are still considered AI.
..."face detection" is not AI. Its a really big and fast database. Filled with faces the police know...
...and just HOW do the faces "police know" get matched to this database? Explain without reference to AI.
..."fuzzy logic controllers in washing machines" A set amount of power, water, weight of laundry is not AI.
No it isn't, but you're a fool if you think your washing machine is that simple these days. It DOES take fuzzy logic to adapt to things like wear and tear on the machine, arbitrarily changing water pressures and temperatures, etc... and still maintain consistent performance.
"'finding directions" with maps that are created and set.
...and using AI algorithms to find the best path.
Blah blah blah... you get the point. You've deliberately downplayed the AI aspect of each point by the framing of your words - which you wouldn't be able to to do if you didn't at least implicitly understand what AI actually means. For each point I can show you where the AI is: in the bits you left out on purpose.
Another AI winter...
"AI winter" is either a myth or only a social reality in the interest of the lay populace. There has been continuous and steady progress in the field, regardless of it's zeitgeist share.
It's easy for someone like you to dismiss all those things as "not AI" because you've had the advantage of being able to take them for granted, they are so useful they've become mundane.
The truth of the matter is that all those things are the fruits of AI research, so saying they're "not AI" is about as wrong headed as saying Newton's work wasn't physics because he didn't account for relativity or produce a "theory of everything".
It's like saying "gold is worth more than money!" - totally meaningless.
One (gold, developers) is a commodity that IS exchanged, the other (money) is the medium OF exchange.
Saying that "commodity X" is worth more than "exchange medium Y" makes no sense because a commodity CANNOT be worth "more" or "less" than the medium of exchange used - it can only ever be worth a specified amount of Y.