Starbucks Says It Will Start Blocking Porn On Its Stores' Wi-Fi In 2019 (nbcnews.com)

Starbucks announced that it will start blocking pornography viewing on its stores' Wi-Fi starting in 2019. "A Starbucks representative told NBC News that the viewing of 'egregious content' over its stores' Wi-Fi has always violated its policy, but the company now has a way to stop it," reports NBC News. From the report: "We have identified a solution to prevent this content from being viewed within our stores and we will begin introducing it to our U.S. locations in 2019," the company representative said. The announcement was first reported by Business Insider and comes after a petition from internet-safety advocacy group Enough is Enough garnered more than 26,000 signatures. The nonprofit launched a porn-free campaign aimed at McDonald's and Starbucks in 2014, and it says that while McDonald's "responded rapidly and positively," Starbucks did not.

In a letter that [Enough is Enough CEO Donna Rice Hughes] said she received from Starbucks over the summer, the company vowed to address the issue "once we determine that our customers can access our free Wi-Fi in a way that also doesn't involuntarily block unintended content." Starbucks has not released details about how it plans to restrict the viewing of pornographic sites or illegal content over its Wi-Fi. In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

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That's petty

[Actually, I do RTFA]

In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

Re:That's petty

[Eva Braun Feminazi]

One of my customers from Kenesah, GA knew of a "that guy" that came in to the local Starbucks shops and was editing porn clips. The employees all knew what he was doing and kept kicking him out. He tried to hide it but there were only so many ways a guy could sit in his seat and sometimes whatever was behind him reflected what was on the screen. He would go from one Starbucks to the other. He told me about this two or three years ago so the incident happened at least that long ago.

It does happen.

~Eva

Re:That's petty

[Narcocide]

I'm sure he isn't banning all coffee at work. There are at least two major chains that compete with Starbucks here. There's even a good chance of one of those other coffee shop chains (or, gasp, even a private establishment!) being closer to their office.

Re:That's petty

[zlives]

so they will be blocking instagram, faebook, you tube ....
i see them failing

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

He didn't ban coffee. He banned Starbucks, which is just about anything with too much sugar in it sold for $6, but it sure as fuck isn't coffee.

But I get your point, overpriced sugary beverages sold to obese Americans is normal, and pornography is verboten.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

It would be petty to ban coffee altogether. Getting people to find better alternatives to starbucks isn't a big deal.

Re:That's petty

[EvilSS]

That's petty

No that's free marketing.

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Funny, I go to Starbucks every day but I've never spent $6+ for a drink nor does it contain a drop of sugar.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

so they will be blocking instagram, faebook, you tube ....
i see them failing

Unless they also block all proxies and VPN's, this will fail. However, it does give them plenty of cover if someone goes to such trouble to circumvent their filters.

Re:That's petty

[Pseudonym]

The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. This is doubly true when it's a PR move.

If they catch you watching porn in a Starbucks, you're still gonna get thrown out.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

No worries. creimer will still give world-class BJs in the bathroom at the Starbucks right nextdoor to Apple HQ. He gives good head because he's so hungry.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

You do realize starbucks makes more than those blended sugar drinks right?

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

You just have to be careful, is all. Their iced coffee has sugar in it just from the shot of classic syrup that gets added by default. It's weird, because you'd think a drink called "iced coffee" would be comprised of ice and coffee. Cold brew, regular old hot coffee, Americanos, some of the teas are usually safe bets.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Hang on, there's a Starbucks next to Apple HQ? Way to kill the hipster cred.

Re:That's petty

[Gavagai80]

More than likely it was a joke. Combination joke and marketing stunt.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Was he positioned so his back was to a wall and no one was likely to see it, or was this a case of sitting in the middle of the store?

Re: That's petty

[Zero__Kelvin]

First of all I have been a Starbucks customer for as long as I can remember and according to my Gold Card a Gold Club member since 2009. I love Starbucks, not because of their coffee, which truth be told is only stellar if you drop $6+ on a specialty drink, like my choice, "Triple Grande White Mocha, Extra Hot, w/Whipped." I can assure you that people watching porn in Starbucks is not a real issue, just as people bringing Starbucks to YouPorn offices ... where they almost certainly offer free coffee to their employees as has been the standing in IT shops for decades, is not an issue. Almost anyone who really is so mentally I'll that they feel the need to do it in public fashion will either disconnect from the Starbucks WiFi and connect to a neighboring AP or just use a 4G (or soon 5G) link to effect the same antisocial behavior. This isn't about a real problem and a real solution ... It is merely Starbucks corporate virtue signalling and YouPorn alt-virtue signalling. The only impact here is I should probably move from a 6GB cap to the 24GB cap lest that heightened BP from my specialty drink go to waste when I "visit the bathroom" near the end of the month. ;-)

Re: That's petty

[Zero__Kelvin]

I haven't worked at or heard of any IT company that doesn't provide free coffee to their employees for as long as I can remember. If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

Re: That's petty

[swillden]

I can assure you that people watching porn in Starbucks is not a real issue

You really can't, at least not with any sort of authority. You go to Starbucks regularly, sure, but your sample of behavior at Starbucks' coffee shops is still ludicrously small for drawing any conclusions.

Let's suppose that only one Starbucks patron in a million watches porn at Starbucks, and let's suppose that you've visited Starbucks four times daily, seven days per week, for 10 years. That's just over 100,000 visits. The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

There are about 14,000 Starbucks stores in the US. Let's suppose that, on average, each serves 500 patrons per day. That's 7M daily visits. On average, there will be 7 porn-watchers in Starbucks stores on any day, and the probability that any one day finds no one watching porn in any of their stores is 0.09%.

And since a high percentage of these porn watchers will generate complaints, and those will likely all get reported to corporate, I'm sure to Starbucks' corporate offices this seems like a huge problem, even at an incidence of only one in one million.

Re: That's petty

[Zontar The Mindless]

If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

Or maybe you've noticed that the free coffee invariably sucks and/or the machine's out of order half the time.

When I still worked in the office, I kept my own beans, grinder, electric kettle, and plunger pot there: "Y'all can drink that swill if you like; I prefer coffee, thanks."

Re:That's petty

[Zontar The Mindless]

Iced coffee is an abomination. Do you also douse your Fillet Mignon with ketchup?

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

I subscribe to the "your favorite brand of beer is 'free', your second favorite is 'cold'" philosophy learned in college. Only in the case of coffee I guess second favorite should be hot.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Multiple. And you have to know which one creimer is manning on any particular day otherwise no gloryhole fun time.

Re: That's petty

[Zero__Kelvin]

Let's use common sense instead. Math is useful sometimes, but in other times it just gives you a way to show that you are a clueless idiot. Remember all those news stories you saw about perverts being arrested for porn related transgressions at Starbucks? See all those stories about it when googling "porn Starbucks" or searching for it on YouTube? No, of course you don't, because as I said, and now easily proved without trying to flaunt my superior math skills. Good luck learning how to gather and process information without trying to sound superior but proving instead that you are a moron!

Re: That's petty

[Zero__Kelvin]

Yep ... I used to have my own espresso machine (though the coffee was always high quality where I worked; clearly YMMV.) But again, nobody is leaving the office to grab Starbucks. The reasons for this are, in truth, immaterial.

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

"Triple Grande White Mocha, Extra Hot, w/Whipped.", that is NOT coffee, that's a small child's drink with caffeine added. Do they put a stupid little umbrella on it too ?

God, comparing what you drink to coffee is like comparing Sponge Bob Square Pants to Ben Hur

Re:That's petty

[Eva Braun Feminazi]

Yes!

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you only eat fillet mignon, or do you eat other forms of beef? If you had a taco with a cheaper cut of beef in it, how would you respond to, "You put hot sauce and cheese on your beef? You might as well put ketchup on a fillet..."

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

It would probably be a lot lower than this unless you went to a different Starbucks every time or went to one frequented by out of town travelers. The coffee shops get a lot of repeat customers and there are only so many locals near a shop. In other words your sampling of patrons is highly correlated.

Re: That's petty

[swillden]

It's sad that people take pride in lacking basic math skills, and yet so common. Very basic math, even. A competent high school freshman can do the calculations I did. And anyone with basic mathematical literacy doesn't even need to run the numbers to see that your sample size is completely inadequate to make any judgments about nationwide frequency.

Innumeracy aside, why would you expect to find this on the news? It's not a crime, just really obnoxious. And videos of people watching porn mostly wouldn't be allowed on YouTube, because of the porn.

But, that said, a simple google search turned up these three links on the first page of results. I'm sure there'd have been more but the page was mostly filled with stories about Starbucks decision to block porn. If you dig deeper, I'm sure you can find lots, lots more:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101001/15475611255/starbucks-staffer-claims-he-was-fired-for-turning-off-wifi-to-block-porn-watchers.shtml
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.businessinsider.co...

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

That is really basic math that does nothing to make the person look superior. Being able to do basic back of the envelope estimates and answer Fermi problem type questions is a really useful skill in a lot of industries.

No, of course you don't, because as I said, and now easily proved without trying to flaunt my superior math skills.

Locals near me on twitter complain about once a month about someone viewing porn at a starbucks, often with many replies of the form, "I've seen that too," that were too lazy to bring it up unprompted. It is way less common than such problems at 24 hour McDonald's in the area though. And of course you don't see stories about people being arrested, because that is not illegal in many places, unless the person doesn't leave when asked to. Even then, the police blotter is rarely touched even on the slowest of news days, unless it involves injuries.

proving instead that you are a moron!

A good starting place to avoid looking like a moron, is to not loudly proclaim how one is better for not understanding or learning something.

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Why?

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck "free trade", it is anything but. Just like the other libertarian illusion, "the free market", which also doesn't exist IRL.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

The perfect is the enemy of the good enough.

First of all it's not "The perfect" it's just "perfect". Secondly, you have that backwards.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

Free advertising. Duh

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

Or maybe you've noticed that the free coffee invariably sucks and/or the machine's out of order half the time.

The free coffee where I work isn't nearly as bad as Starbucks. Starbucks coffee tastes like ass, that's why there's all the unicorn barf and pumpkin spice flavored shit--it's to cover the taste of their burnt beans.

Re:That's petty

[SuricouRaven]

If he was editing porn clips that much, it's quite possible he does that for a living. Someone has to.

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

But hoooow would you get creeeeeam in your cooffeeeee?

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Check your privilege, richie rich.

Re:That's petty

[DarkLordBelial]

Unless you are black.

Re: That's petty

[Hognoxious]

Cost of coffee is tangible. Money crosses the organisation boundary. It shows up on somebody's cost centre.

Productivity, and the indirect effect small things have on it, is difficult to measure at the best of times.

Which do you think the MBAs & PHBs are more likely to care about?

Re:That's petty

[Hallux-F-Sinister]

In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

If watching porn at a coffee shop isn't normal, why does Starbucks have to make a company-wide rule against it? People watch porn everywhere, even if only behind their eyes in the sticky-floored movie theater of the mind.

I think I'm going to start a coffee shop called StarFucks. Not only MAY you watch porn on our wifi, you HAVE TO. (It's like Fight Club. "If this is your first night, you have to fight.") Also, our coffee won't taste like burnt, undrinkable swill, and it won't cost an obscene amount per cup.

Okay, I'm dreaming big... what did YOU dream about today? Another day sitting in class naked, without your homework?

Re:That's petty

[Hallux-F-Sinister]

Iced coffee is an abomination. Do you also douse your Fillet Mignon with ketchup?

Iced coffee is not filet mignon with ketchup.

It's more like a desiccated hamburger that fell out of your kid's Happy Meal after he nodded off and rolled right under the driver's seat, then SAT there while you went on a road trip through the middle of Arizona in July, only to be discovered a month later.

Re:That's petty

[Joce640k]

Yes, but do they have to do it in Starbucks?

Re: That's petty

[f3rret]

Oh I see, you're one of those guys.

Re: That's petty

[Zero__Kelvin]

It's sad that you have such poor analytical ability that you assume I lack math skills because I recognize that it doesn't solve the problem. ... and of course public indecency is a crime you fucking moron.

Re: That's petty

[Zero__Kelvin]

Since most companies have coffee available I'm going to say it really doesn't matter, and as usual you are an idiot trying to sound smart while broadcasting to the world how incredibly stupid you are.

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

What's wrong with that? If he's willing to pay for his own coffee, and that makes him happier and possibly more productive at work, just let him do so?

We also have access to free coffee at my workplace, but we also have a café that makes a nice cappucino for a few dollars, and I'm willing to pay for that upgrade.

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

as opposed to the stupidity of blocking porn, or the stupidity of viewing porn. this just illustrates that once again, people are stupid.

Re:That's petty

[Oswald McWeany]

In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

You're right that one is normal and one isn't; but, I'm pretty sure it was more of a gesture than thinking he was achieving something. I disagree he looks stupid- I would say "petty" is a more accurate term.

Re: That's petty

[Oswald McWeany]

I haven't worked at or heard of any IT company that doesn't provide free coffee to their employees for as long as I can remember. If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

We have free coffee... it's AWFUL!

I brew my own at my desk rather than drink the free crap.

Re: That's petty

[Oswald McWeany]

Funny, I go to Starbucks every day but I've never spent $6+ for a drink nor does it contain a drop of sugar.

Indeed, I only go to Starbucks once every 3 or 4 months or so and I walk out with a black cup of coffee for about $2 (which is still a lot more than making my own- but not that different to most places outside the home nowadays).

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Or the free coffee sucks....

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

"Weâ(TM)ll create our own (X) with blackjack and hookersâ

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

woot good coffee and at a reasonable price!

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

Jeez, it's a joke. You should laugh, instead of calling other people stupid.

Re: That's petty

[tap]

Let's suppose that only one Starbucks patron in a million watches porn at Starbucks, and let's suppose that you've visited Starbucks four times daily, seven days per week, for 10 years. That's just over 100,000 visits. The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

There's a flaw in the reasoning here. This assumes each time he goes to a Starbucks he observes exactly one other patron. They are usually more crowded than that, especially at times the OP is most likely to be visiting the.

The real question that needs answering, is one more likely to observe someone else's porn at Starbucks or get hit by lightning?

Re:That's petty

[slashdot_commentator]

That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

No, you're the one who's stupid.

Businesses such as pornographic enterprises, need to inculcate an employee "team" mentality. You can just let Starbuck shit on your company, and erode employee solidarity with their job, or energize the employee base, with an "us vs them" distraction. YouPorn is not Google, and they replace one branded caffeine junkie employee with one who better desires collecting a paycheck and can get their caffeine fix from a different brand.

Re:That's petty

[slashdot_commentator]

Its also a way to weed out employees who value their branded coffee more than their paycheck.

Re: That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

We have identified that angsty teen here...
Pretty soon, you're going to encounter a favorite band that has suddenly become popular and mainstream. Whatever will you do?

Re:That's petty

[torkus]

well starbucks now won't kick anyone out ... even dirty and smelly homeless people who haven't bought anything, move their shopping-cart condo in with them and sleep there all day.

I'm sure a bit of porn editing wouldn't be an issue.

Also, VPN. Why does no one understand the concept of VPN on /.?

Re:That's petty

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, but do they have to do it in Starbucks?

Why not? If you could sit where noone saw your screen, WHO CARES?!

Re: That's petty

[swillden]

Let's suppose that only one Starbucks patron in a million watches porn at Starbucks, and let's suppose that you've visited Starbucks four times daily, seven days per week, for 10 years. That's just over 100,000 visits. The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

There's a flaw in the reasoning here. This assumes each time he goes to a Starbucks he observes exactly one other patron. They are usually more crowded than that, especially at times the OP is most likely to be visiting the.

Valid point, though it doesn't change the answer that much. A bigger flaw -- in the opposite direction -- is that he doesn't see a random sample from the pool of all Starbucks customers, but will tend to mostly see people from one smallish pool, many of them repeatedly. So a better way to think about this is to estimate the size of the pool that he has observed and calculate the probability that at least one of them is a Starbucks porn watcher.

The real question that needs answering, is one more likely to observe someone else's porn at Starbucks or get hit by lightning?

Get hit by lightning inside a Starbucks? I would hope that the odds of that are extremely low. :P

Re:That's petty

[thegarbz]

That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

Not really. He's just making a point about a company banning another. To be clear his point will fall on deaf ears for the reason you listed, but it's not stupid. If anything it's a good narrative on how the actions of a company are always filtered through a lens of social acceptance.

Re: That's petty

[thegarbz]

Or maybe you've noticed that the free coffee invariably sucks and/or the machine's out of order half the time.

That's just redundant. The GP already said shit companies.

Re: That's petty

[Hognoxious]

Talking to yourself again.

Already doing this

[jwhyche]

I figured they already did this. I was unable to get to pornhub from starbucks the other day. I go there to read the articles.

Re:Already doing this

[AmiMoJo]

It seems fairly pointless anyway, given that a) people have mobile data and b) I doubt many people go to Starbucks to look at porn.

Re: Already doing this

[Anonymous Coward]

Just to piss them off, usb tether your phone to your laptop, then play porn over that

Re: Already doing this

[Pseudonym]

If you're determined to get yourself deliberately thrown out of Starbucks, surely you can think of a nobler reason than that.

Re: Already doing this

[Anonymous Coward]

Better yet, watch fag porn. Watch all those hot sweaty faggot men shoving their cocks in other faggot men's manginas. Maybe a good prison fag rape movie turned up full volume.

Re: Already doing this

[Anonymous Coward]

If you're determined to get yourself deliberately thrown out of Starbucks, surely you can think of a nobler reason than that.

Like asking for the keys to the restroom and being black at the same time?

Re: Already doing this

[Pseudonym]

For example.

Re: Already doing this

[Anonymous Coward]

It's a joke son

Re: Already doing this

[Anonymous Coward]

Yep. Mostly because they are too poor to speak up, and too feeble to beat you, so you can bully them until you tired of it.

Re:Already doing this

[Anonymous Coward]

a) I seek out starbucks wifi when I have to transfer large video files, rather than pay for extra mobile data.
b) Not most people, but that one guy who has neither heard of headphones or privacy screens ruins it for everybody.

End of an era

[Tablizer]

There goes their profits on "hot whipped & frothy" lattes.

Re:End of an era

[Pseudonym]

It's going to save them a fortune on napkins though.

Re:End of an era

[Anonymous Coward]

It was a wash, they used to save money on floor waxing.

can't block vpn's!

[Joe_Dragon]

can't block vpn's!

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Narcocide]

Well... you say that, but... they can actually. They can absolutely block VPNs.

Blocking them reliably without blocking all encrypted and non-HTTP traffic however would be a full-time job, so I'm guessing security is going out the window too.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[zlives]

most likely they will use some sort of DNS filter and call it a policy... blocking VPN's would actually affect way more people that actually do real work from starbucks. deep packet/ssl inspection MITM would probably not fly.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

My work blocks VPNs.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[ceoyoyo]

Nah, they'll block the obvious sites. They're responding to a bad press attack by a special interest group. They need to do something so they can say, see, we did something.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

can't block vpn's!

What, are you an idiot? Of course they can block VPNs.

That's the problem here: collateral damage. No well adjusted person should be surfing porn in a Starbucks: that's just nasty and rude. But well adjusted people DO use VPNs for all kinds of legit reasons that are fine to be doing in a Starbucks, and there are also legit reasons to do so on a public hotspot.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

My VPN service offers OpenVPN XOR and ECC connections over TCP on port 443 that I suspect would get through most firewalls.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

"XOR and ECC" isn't a connection type or net protocol. OpenVPN makes sense, so I suspect you are misreading your NordVPN feature page rather badly. They do defeat some types of VPN blockers, not all. #debunked, dunked on

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

They can absolutely block VPNs.

Technically, they can try. Realistically, they won't because they'll lose business.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

Who fucking cares what people watch on their own computer? Stop staring at their fucking screen you nosy cunt. Or maybe get laid since the thought of sex offends you you fucking worthless incel.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[ourlovecanlastforeve]

Nobody who is working at a Starbucks is doing real work.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[zlives]

all my sales department would disagree with you :)

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

Nobody wants to watch you fuck. Now get over yourself already.

Re: can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

Is that what you call your begging gig?

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

I know: "XOR", "ECC" (and others) are the "types" of OpenVPN configurations that the VPN provider offers.

There is no fundamental reason why a VPN connection cannot be made to look exactly like TLS. Does anyone know if OpenVPN offers a specific option for TLS masquerading?

Re:can't block vpn's!

[SuricouRaven]

A couple of special interest groups. They coordinate. They have to, because no company considers Enough is Enough to be worthy of notice on their own, and NCoSE is still routinely making claims that exposure to pornography causes the brain to physically shrink.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Oswald McWeany]

all my sales department would disagree with you :)

"Sales Department" - you just proved him right. Sales Departments don't do work.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Oswald McWeany]

Nah, they'll block the obvious sites. They're responding to a bad press attack by a special interest group. They need to do something so they can say, see, we did something.

Yeah. The big legitimate ones that probably won't download a virus. The small illegitimate ones that don't have a reputation to keep and download viruses- they'll be the ones that people have to access now!

Still... no one needs to be watching that kind of stuff at Starbucks. Falls under public indecency.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

all my sales department would disagree with you :)

"Sales Department" - you just proved him right. Sales Departments don't do work.

We most certainly do...on occasion...when the need arises...(he types from his work computer in the sales department of the company he "works" for)...

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Anonymous Coward]

Nah, they'll block the obvious sites. They're responding to a bad press attack by a special interest group. They need to do something so they can say, see, we did something.

I'm all about freedom of whatever, but when someone else's "freedom" encroaches on another's, BOTH are special interests. I think you can take the common sense tack of "if the proprietor wouldn't do this on the big screen (for legal reasons, not privacy ones), then you should probably do it elsewhere."

It's bad enough people set up shop over an outlet and mooch wifi for the cheapest possible just for mundane things; now that I think about it, those particular laptops probably aren't sanitary enough to put on tables in a coffee shop ;)

Re:can't block vpn's!

[thegarbz]

I wish one day someone would have the balls to block special interest groups.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[zlives]

as long as they generate money, whatever they do is called work :)

Re:can't block vpn's!

[ceoyoyo]

Well, Starbucks is blocking the porn industry and YouPorn apparently blocked Starbucks. Does that count?

Re:can't block vpn's!

[thegarbz]

Nah because the easily offended get off free again after ruining it for everyone.

Re:can't block vpn's!

[Agripa]

There is no fundamental reason why a VPN connection cannot be made to look exactly like TLS.

Then the tunnel would be over TCP. It works but is subject to RST attacks and TCP over TCP has performance problems. Tunneling over UDP or some other stateless protocol is preferred.

Does anyone know if OpenVPN offers a specific option for TLS masquerading?

OpenVPN supports TLS for the control channel but I do not think it does for the data channel. DTLS (TLS for UDP) could work but that is not TLS.

Even with an all TLS VPN, HTTPS traffic can be distinguished from VPN traffic apparently.

It has been a while since I messed with this stuff.

Normal

[Anrego]

Isn't this par for the course basically everywhere?

Re:Normal

[Narcocide]

They are most likely making something official policy that individual managers have generally assumed was policy all along. They are most likely doing this as a response to a coordinated flood of complaints about the few locations where managers did not.

first!

[Anonymous Coward]

first!

What about their prices?

[reboot246]

They are really obscene!

Re:What about their prices?

[zlives]

but you get free porn with it... until now :)

Re:What about their prices?

[alvinrod]

Yeah. Somebody should upload a video of people getting served at Starbucks to the orgy section of some porn site, since it would be a video of a whole bunch of people getting fucked.

And value

[phantomfive]

And nothing of value was lost.

Re:And value

[Anonymous Coward]

Last year, Starbucks went through 100Kg of coffee beans.
THAT coffee was for senior management only, what shit the rest of you are drinking remains a secret much like the Coca cola recipe , the one thing that is known is that it does not contain real coffee.

Re:And value

[thegarbz]

And nothing of value was lost.

Are you kidding? PORN!

Re:And value

[phantomfive]

Porn at Starbucks? Yeah.........nothing of value.

Re:And value

[thegarbz]

Well you sure as hell wouldn't go there for the horrid tasting swill they call coffee.

Starfucks

[Anonymous Coward]

sex fusion

Re:No Starbucks in FEDERAL PRISON

[phantomfive]

The Mueller investigation seems to be coming to an end soon, give it a rest and just let it finish.

So...

[bblb]

Am I just supposed to drink coffee and jerk off at home now or what?

Re:So...

[Oswald McWeany]

Am I just supposed to drink coffee and jerk off at home now or what?

Just be careful if you're jiggling around doing that, that you don't spill your coffee.

Desperation

[Anonymous Coward]

Is what you must feel to go to SB to watch pron. Iguess if you want it that bad you'll just get a VPN.

Two words: Personal Hotspot

[Anonymous Coward]

Jerk off anywhere, brother.

Old news...

[JoeDuncan]

Slashdot should change there motto from: "News for Nerds" to: "Yesterday's News Today!"

Re:Old news...

[JoeDuncan]

[sic]their

Bloody Slashdot and their "no edits no deletes" BS...

Re:Old news...

[Anonymous Coward]

Posting non-breaking news means there's more time for errors to be corrected and more of the story to come out. It's extremely unlikely any article posted on Slashdot would have had a major effect on your life if it was posted the moment the story broke. Get over your fear-of-missing-out and give-me-all-the-things-now addictions.

Re:Old news...

[JoeDuncan]

Get over your fear-of-missing-out and give-me-all-the-things-now addictions.

Oh please, it has nothing to do with "missing out" or an addiction to immediacy, and everything to do with the fact that just about *EVERY* story I see on Slashdot is a repeat of something I saw somewhere else the day before.

I don't expect Slashdot to post "zero-hour" journalism, but I do expect Slashdot articles to at least be current to the *day*. If it was posted elsewhere the day before, it doesn't belong on Slashdot.

Re: Old news...

[Anonymous Coward]

At least it isn't about the last tweet of Grimes' ex-boyfriend.

Re:Old news...

[Oswald McWeany]

Slashdot should change there motto from: "News for Nerds" to: "Yesterday's News Today!"

True for all News Aggregators and always has been.

Re:Old news...

[Anonymous Coward]

Why not? Just because you read it somewhere else doesn't mean everyone else saw it somewhere else.

Will they block Wikipedia?

[xack]

The Donald Trump article contains a penis

Re: Will they block Wikipedia?

[Anonymous Coward]

Unless it slides in and out if Stormy's asshole and vagina, it is hardly porn.

We know blowjobs aren't "sex", depending of the definition of what "is" is.

Take note

[AndyKron]

Free WiFi isn't always free. Take note.

Re:Take note

[Anonymous Coward]

This is why you should only drink ruined coffee made from burnt beans at cafes subscribing to the ideals of WiFi Libre.

Re:No Starbucks in FEDERAL PRISON

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't feed it, it will never go away!

talk to Google

[Anonymous Coward]

I heard they got some pretty good blocking tech, good enough for communist China

Only in Murica.Or the IS.Can't tell the difference

[Anonymous Coward]

Why is Murica such a Catholiban hellhole?
This is as ridiculous as banning the display of food. Or beds and sleeping. Or any other of the most basic and normal things that literally everyone does or there would be no humanity.

And how does nobody even realize that this is extreme fundamentalist religious insanity (in the mental illness sense)? What the actual fuck?

Guess what happens, when ten guys and ten girls go to the town's main square or park during the most busy time, and fuck each other for hours, with kids walking around on the outside.
NOTHING!
Kids, by definition, are not sexually exitable! They'll stare a bit out of curiosity, since they have never seen such a thing. Then it will get boring. Then they'll move on.
They will talk about it the next day, like "have you seen?". It will die down in a few days.
The next time it happens, they will maybe look for a bit, then move on. Maybe tell each other that "It happened again.".
And from then on, it will be "Meh.".

It's only the Catholiban so-called parents, that flip their shit and go apeshit crazy, hallucinating all kinds of sick shit.
Because guess what: THEY are the sick fucks. THEY are the fucked-up ones.
And IMHO, they are just one emotional day and a good hiding place away from starting to rape children by the masses.

It's not different that Muslim extremists and their suicide belts and boko haram, etc.
It's just as utterly insane, and ridiculous, that this happens, not in the freaking dark ages, but *today*!
Jesus fucking Christ (in the anus) is this fucked-up!

Re:It's all in the genes

[Anonymous Coward]

I feel bad for you that you can't watch black gay porn at Starbucks any more. I know how much those big black cocks turned you on.

Net neutrality arguments?

[Solandri]

I'm curious how you can justify this while remaining consistent with net neutrality. The only argument I can come up with is if Starbucks gives WiFi access for free, then they're not obligated to provide a "complete" Internet experience. Except if they require or "encourage" you to buy something from them before giving you access, it's not really free.

"Net neutrality only applies when they block or slow down sites I want," is not a valid standard. The principle needs to be based on standards which are universal and agnostic, so it produces the same results regardless of whether you like or dislike the ISP (Starbucks or Comcast), or like or dislike the website (Netflix or porn sites) it's applied to. Otherwise it's not neutrality.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[phantomfive]

No one is going to run a home server on Starbucks wifi.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Anonymous Coward]

Even if you paid for Starbucks WiFi, you're crazy if you think net neutrality should ever demand that someone be able to watch porn out in the open at a restaurant. Particularly in view of children. I'm pretty sure that's a criminal, for good reason.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Anonymous Coward]

This is a terrible argument. Your jonesing to watch pornography in a public setting (or quasi-public since its technically a private business, but anyone can walk in) is not how you argue for Net Neutrality.

Net Neutrality is about carriers, not endpoints, and Starbucks is NOT an ISP. It says the carries will treat traffic the same, like open roads. It doesn't say that a private institution cannot decide what to allow at their endpoint.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Gavagai80]

That's like arguing that an internet kiosk in a department store that only allows accessing a store's own website to search products is a violation of net neutrality. Starbucks is not an ISP, they're a coffee company that happens to offer customers some internet service under certain conditions.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[ClickOnThis]

Starbucks is not an ISP, they're a coffee company that happens to offer customers some internet service under certain conditions.

This. But NN is moot, because the Pai FCC killed it, remember?

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Anonymous Coward]

It is not the same to forbid the screens showing pornography that other people could see, than blocking the traffic.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Solandri]

So your argument is that "predominant business is something else" frees the company from net neutrality. So you feel my cable TV company who offers customers Internet service under certain conditions should not be bound by net neutrality?

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Anonymous Coward]

Starbucks isn't an ISP. Your cable company is. Starbucks is free to police their network inside their stores on wifi they provide for free. Don't like it, don't use their wifi, go home and use your own internet connection or swap over to LTE. Comcast should not be able to alter your traffic priorities when you're paying for service directly to your home. There's a big difference here.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Calydor]

The connection is complimentary. You could just as well be trying to complain about what KIND of chocolate a hotel leaves on the pillows in their rooms, or perhaps which sports game a bar is choosing to show on their TV.

I don't approve of censorship, but Starbucks is (fortunately) not an ISP. Your cable company is. And before you get into it, the law would be simple: Any service provider who is getting their service from another service provider can filter as they please, UNLESS that upstream provider is not available to the customer as a civilian living at that specific place. Bam, Starbucks can filter if they get through Comcast, but Comcast can't filter.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you trolling? You're essentially saying they should have to offer you free use of their kitchen equipment because you don't understand how a business works and operates. They aren't an ISP. This is the equivalent of asking to use the bathroom then disconnecting the toilet and attempting to take it home for yourself.

Re:Net neutrality arguments?

[Solandri]

Comcast, Verizon, etc. all get their Internet service from other Tier 1 (and in some cases Tier 2) providers like Level 3. Any civilian can get service from L3. You just have to pay a ton for it because their lowest tier of service is so much more than any single individual would need, and they're gonna charge you for the cost of laying fiber to your house. So cable companies would still be exempt under the conditions you've laid out. I'm not being obtuse here, I'm trying to point out why it's a problem if you define a law as "I just know" certain companies should be covered and others exempt. The arguments I'm putting forth are the arguments the cable ISPs would use in court to exempt themselves from Net Neutrality.

I've been trying to push you, hoping you could arrive at the correct answer on your own. But I don't have time to continue monitoring this thread so I'll give you the answer. The difference between Starbucks and Comcast as an ISP is that Comcast has a monopoly in most of the areas where they provide service. You don't have to use a Starbucks for WiFi. You can go to another Starbucks, or a McDonalds, or a friend's house to leech off their free WiFi. Not so with Comcast. For most U.S. households in Comcast territory, Comcast is their only choice for cable Internet. And if Comcast decides to do something with the Internet service not in the best interests of its customers, the customers have no recourse. They cannot flee to get Internet service from another company. Their only choice is to live with Comcast's restrictions, or do without Internet.

As that monopoly is artificial (granted by the local government) rather than a natural monopoly, the government likewise is free to add conditions like Net Neutrality to the terms of that monopoly. No grandiose national law with majorities in both branches of Congress and the signature of the President is needed. No fuzzy definitions of what constitutes an ISP. Each city council simply has to decide for themselves that if they're going to give an ISP a monopoly, they're also going to require that ISP to treat data access neutrally. (But this gets back to my bigger point - why do you even need Net Neutrality in the first place? These local governments can simply allow multiple cable companies to offer Internet service in their city. And ISPs which try to throttle bandwidth would simply bleed customers to ISPs which don't throttle, automatically discouraging the behavior Net Neutrality is trying to prevent.)

Let me fix that for you

[SuperKendall]

Starbucks Says It Will Start Trying To Block Porn On Its Stores' Wi-Fi In 2019

Good luck with that!

Re:Let me fix that for you

[Anonymous Coward]

All my traffic tunnels through VPN, though I think it's rude to watch porn in public.

Poor StarBucks baristas...

[Anonymous Coward]

Now instead of creepy homeless guys coming into StarBucks to use the restroom while surfing porn on the free WiFi, they'll have frustrated creepy homeless guys asking for "some help in the restroom" because the WiFi doesn't serve up the porn fix they needed.

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

The great firewall of starbucks helps them show their true colors!

And what way is that, exactly?

[mark-t]

A Starbucks representative told NBC News that the viewing of 'egregious content' over its stores' Wi-Fi has always violated its policy, but the company now has a way to stop it

Color me skeptical... if people own the hardware the connects to their wifi, how do they actually stop it?

If it's difficult enough to stop kids from accessing porn on a home computer without parents using explicit whitelists, I fail to see how Starbucks can do this when they don't even control the connecting hardware.

Re:And what way is that, exactly?

[SuricouRaven]

They don't.

The number of people actually looking at porn in starbucks is tiny, and easily dealt with by asking them to stop or kicking them out. This policy is more for PR reasons. A few anti-pornography pressure groups have been pushing for various companies to start blocking porn for years, and Starbucks is on their list. So Starbucks gets pestered with petitions and badmouthed in opinion columns all over right-leaning media. Eventually Starbucks board notices this and thinks 'Why not? It'll shut them up, doesn't cost us anything, and we can even spin it to look socially responsible.'

And when the very rare incidents of people looking at porn in Starbucks continue - because all filters can be broken, and because people can just download it at home for viewing later, and because mobile internet is a thing - then Starbucks can still kick the offender out just as before.

Re: And what way is that, exactly?

[Anonymous Coward]

"badmouthed in opinion columns all over right-leaning media"

Citation please.

Anti-porn corporate virtue signaling has "militant feminazis" written all over it.

Re: And what way is that, exactly?

[SuricouRaven]

Let's see... OneNewsNow is run by the AFA, which is a major pressure group in the US, which makes it right-wing but not fringe.
https://www.onenewsnow.com/cul...
That's an article from 2016 which condemns Starbucks for ignoring demands to install filtering.

And here'a a Fox article from a similar time which explains how companies which provide unfiltered wifi are helping terrorists and child molesters:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...
Starbucks is specifically mentioned, though the focus is more on congratulating companies which do filter.

The Fox news article seems to imply that the internet is rife with child porn, and only filtering can save people from seeing it. Makes me wonder what sort of sites Fox writers look at.

Cream in your coffee, sir?

[hyades1]

"Well, 'til January, at least.

Re:Cream in your coffee, sir?

[Anonymous Coward]

You drink jizz, straight up. "I prefer black"

Nazi cuck.

Re:Cream in your coffee, sir?

[Anonymous Coward]

You drink jizz, straight up. "I prefer black"

I saw what you did there.

Re:Cream in your coffee, sir?

[hyades1]

It's a verb, you stupid ass pirate. But thanks for letting everybody know about your preferred diet.

Re:Cream in your coffee, sir?

[hyades1]

You prefer jizz from underage boys because you are a homosexual pedophile. Probably a priest. I don't imagine their skin colour makes a lot of difference to you. A lot of anonymous cowards are like you.

I stopped relying on Starbucks WiFi

[DewDude]

I stopped using it for anything other than a VPN transport years ago. Connected one day...everything took *forever* to load...half the DNS not resolving. Connected to a VPN and it was snappy as anything.

If you can SEARCH, you can access porn

[Anonymous Coward]

There's always a search engine that can return images of people fucking...or anything else your little heart desires. If you can access a search engine in McDonalds or StarFucks then you can diddle your we we to pr0nski all you want.

Better hurry ...

[PPH]

... and download those pics of Gary Hart's paramour while you can.

Re:Only in Murica.Or the IS.Can't tell the differe

[Anonymous Coward]

So is it your contention that outside of America, viewing porn videos on your laptop in a coffee shop (in full view of other customers) is considered normal?
Maybe my American upbringing has distorted my view, but I find this highly questionable.

Their Goes Their Business Model

[BrendaEM]

Meant as a joke, actually there are consequences. Starbucks cannot block porn without spying on people.

recently got this request

[Anonymous Coward]

I was setting up a public hotspot for a local restaurant recently and they requested that I block "any bad content".

I installed a pihole.

Well that does it!

[rworne]

First they got rid of the maple-oat scones and Tazo tea - and now the porn?

They really don't want my business, do they?

The future is bleak

[Anonymous Coward]

First it starts with disallowing certain "clearly in the wrong place" content, next it will be all content is blocked except websites approved by Starbucks head office.

Re:The future is bleak

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't block the free wifi I provide in my café. If I catch you watching porn on it, I just ring the cops' field station around the corner and they send someone over to tap you on the shoulder and invite you to have a little chat.

Re:The future is bleak

[Anonymous Coward]

"The future"? There are already a ton of wifi hotspots that only let you visit a short list of sites whitelisted or promoted by the head office, unless you pay for more general access. If anything, that is less common than it used to be. Coffee shops can get more money out of someone who has a reason to stay a while, and people preferentially go to places with free wifi.

YP has only Vice Presidents....

[Anonymous Coward]

And suckretaries...

Hot, black, and with a shot of cream on the bottom

[Anonymous Coward]

That's how I'll be asking for my coffee tomorrow morning.

The more you know.....

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm not sure what's more surprising to me - That people watch porn in Starbucks or that Youporn has a president.

I'll show them

[Chewbacon]

I'll download my porn BEFORE I go to Starbucks!!! Just like I do when I fly!

my Starbux bill average $1 per day

[Anonymous Coward]

brocolli serving from grocery store: 35c
Starbux cream cheese for brocolli: 75c
Tazo tea bag from box: 20c.

istopped buying $tarbux bagels sonce rising from 150c to 200c. bring my own sometime.

What if it's not just porn?

[LaughingRadish]

Suppose Starbucks or someone other party wants to censor stuff that's not pornographic. Suppose Company A pays Starbucks block content from Company B.

Re:What if it's not just porn?

[Anonymous Coward]

Suppose a 450 pound virgin does something more useful than trolling Slashdot on a Saturday evening?

Peets Coffee

[Anonymous Coward]

Guess I'll be getting my coffee from Peets now,

Stop the "coffee" , keep the porn.

[Anonymous Coward]

Nobody goes to Starbucks for the coffee (its shit !!!!!), take away the porn and there will be nothing left.

I have drunk coffee all over Europe, Australasia, Asia, North America and I will say :
Worst Coffee is the world belongs to....wait for it...Hong Kong, No NO NOOOOO, you do NOT make coffee with sweetened condensed milk, DISGUSTING.
2nd is Starbucks (world wide) (I have tried 3 times and never managed more than a mouthful before throwing it away)
3rd is the USA in general, sorry but "Americano" is NOT real coffee...ewww

Best Coffee I have had is in Rome, then Paris, Wellington (New Zealand), Brisbane...

Porn in SB? Jesus, just look at the logo....

[TiggertheMad]

I have never gone to Starbucks before, as always though coffee tasted like ass, but now that Starbucks's is going to block all adult content....well, challenge accepted!

VPN = View Porn Now!

[BobC]

'nuf said.

What we really want to know...

[Anonymous Coward]

Why the FUCK wasn't it blocked 20 years ago?

I can

[SuperKendall]

You really can't, at least not with any sort of authority.

Have you ever BEEN on Starbucks WiFi? No way anyone is streaming anything over that pitifully slow network, much less porn.

I am on conference calls sometimes where the audio is from people in different places all over IP, and the people who broadcast from cafes (including Starbucks) have maddeningly terrible audio.

Re:I can

[swillden]

You really can't, at least not with any sort of authority.

Have you ever BEEN on Starbucks WiFi? No way anyone is streaming anything over that pitifully slow network, much less porn.

I have. Some are okay, most suck.

Re:I can

[kaatochacha]

porn can be pictures, not video.;

Re:I can

[SuperKendall]

Ok, I admit that ASCII porn exists, therefore technically you could view porn at Starbucks.

Enough is Enough

[fustakrakich]

Yeah, I'll say! Another damn temperance movement is on the march. Anybody remember the history of that?

Well, I am interested to see how tough this new firewall is, because if they can block, it can only mean it's too easy for others to block.

That seems reasonable to me

[AbRASiON]

I mean it's a coffee shop, c'mon

That being said, good god is it terrible coffee.

Americans, my condolences, your coffee really is truly awful.

They've been under pressure for a while.

[SuricouRaven]

It's not just Enough is Enough, the organisation mentioned in the article. The anti-pornography organisation National Campign on Sexual Exploitation (Formerly Morality in Media) has been trying to push Starbucks (and other companies) to block pornography for years.

I can't see any reason for starbucks not to block porn, really. It doesn't cost much, and even if it's totally ineffective, it lets them save face any time a customer complains about seeing something they would rather not have. It probably just took a few petitions before the issue was considered important enough for the board to pay any regard to it at all.

Re:They've been under pressure for a while.

[Anonymous Coward]

The solution is easy: block the most popular porn sites and also sites of the most popular anti-pornography organizations. It's fair, isn't it?

Re:They've been under pressure for a while.

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not just Enough is Enough, the organisation mentioned in the article. The anti-pornography organisation National Campign on Sexual Exploitation (Formerly Morality in Media) has been trying to push Starbucks (and other companies) to block pornography for years.

You know a lot about these fucking cunts then. How come?

Re:They've been under pressure for a while.

[SuricouRaven]

Because I've spent the last fifteen years insulting organisations like theirs on the internet.

I started insulting them when I read an article which quoted an FRC representative calling for states to ban HPV vaccination as it encouraged underage sex, and I just never stopped. I read what they say, and I write comments against them. Sometimes detailed intellectual criticisms, sometimes crude trolling, whatever seems appropriate. I make sure I understand thoroughly those I intend to mock.

Why?

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would you want to bother with crappy filters that never work as intended and often block "legitimate" content?

1. Who watches porn in a public coffee shop anyway?

2. And those who do anyway, are so mentally deranged, they'll find other ways to do so. You can easily bypass the blockade by either joining another public wifi network, using 4G or by bringing your own, off-line porn...

Hot latte

[Anonymous Coward]

What about the Gentlemans Latte and the "Full body" latte? Are those still offered?

Who in hell watches porn at Starbucks?

[Applehu Akbar]

People watch porn in public libraries, where creepy bums are a legally protected class.

that is why

[sad_]

that is why i download all my pron first before going to starbucks!

Muller issues

[Anonymous Coward]

I think Muller has just created a HUGE problem for DC. He charged Cohen with lying to Congress, which is a law and doesn't cause legal issues for Muller.
However, Cohen is facing a felony with 5 years for it. Can we list 7 times Clapper knowingly lied, or 4 times Holder lied, or the multiple times Clinton lied under oath to Congress.

By charging Cohen and not the others, the law being enforced isn't the law written. It has now been changed to "its illegal to have worked for Trump". Which is what Muller is going for. So that just tells me Muller is a piece of crap and whatever findings he comes up with are all fake/made up. He has decided the outcome and arranged his investigation to achieve them no matter what. In fact Corsi is saying Muller offered to let him off if he would lie to incriminate Trump. Whoops!

Yea, DC is broken to the point it can't be fixed. Muller is helping more than anyone to reinforce that opinion. If they charged Clapper, Holder, Clinton, Comey, McCabe, etc with the same thing it would be a different story and I would have trouble ignoring Muller's findings. The way he is doing it, I just assume he is lying now.

"Now" they have a way to stop it?

[sabbede]

There have been options for filtering adult content for a while. A long while. So what do they mean by, "now we have a way to stop it"? "We finally decided to click that option in our firewall management consoles"?

This again?

[Anonymous Coward]

> the company now has a way to stop it

No, they do not.

(That said, if you go to a coffee shop and browse porn then wtf is wrong with you?)

Needs more irony, less churlish

[Anonymous Coward]

A better response from youporn would have them publicly and noisily installing a starbucks in their office.

4G

[Cpt_Kirks]

4G is generally faster than most "Free" wifi.

Go sit in your car and watch pr0n. Just try not to get hot latte in your lap.

OH RLY!?

[hellhovnd]

Nothing could ever block Tor.

First they took the nipples from the siren...

[Too Late for Cool ID]

The siren on the logo used to have nipples, so I guess Starbucks comstockery started long ago.

Kidding aside, tt's their wifi, so they can dish it out to users however they want.

PornStar(bucks)

[iTrawl]

Sounds like somebody needs to make a film called PornStarbucks. The pun is good, and the location just made headlines.

"Starbuck"

[Anonymous Coward]

Look Mr. Manager, the only reason I came in here was that I was told that "Starbuck" was my porn name, and your store is called "Starbucks". So clearly you know your demographic and are now refusing to serve me!

Too much Monkey Business

[L. J. Beauregard]

Yes, she's *that* Donna Rice.

Porn banned on their wireless?

[argStyopa]

Are there a lot of Starbucks where 4G isn't available anyway?

Bad solution

[Anonymous Coward]

Are they going to block VPN connections as well? If not, good luck with that.