Students pursuing seismology as a profession saw a sharp decline.
Why would anyone pursue a career where it's so easy to make a simple mistake and be liable for penalties like this for something that is out of your control?
Monitors are a different story. I think my next monitor may be a 27" TV with 2560 resolution. There it does matter, I have good vision and I can cram lots of small shit on the screen.
Seriously, I'm trying to teach European law to a European? That is some of the stupidest fucking appeal to authority nonsense I've ever heard. Really? You're presenting your authority as (lol) a "European" as meaningful?
So let me see if I understand you.
Nyuh uh!
That's pretty compelling. I guess I could go get the actual text from the laws of the relevant countries, but you're just wave your hands and say "Nyuh uh!" again.
All of those things I listed (except for the woman drivers stuff, and one could easily decide that based on the wording of the laws it is included) have already been used to arrest or convict people. Your inability to do simple Google searches and your pathetic need to resort to the most boring rebuttal in the world "Wikipedia/Google tsk tsk how silly" is somewhat amazing, even given that I now know what a lazy asshole you are.
As for civilized, we'll see when you fuckers are rioting in the streets over losing some more of your welfare how civilized you are. Just to make it doubly ironic I'll make sure I'm drinking tea from a tiny teacup with my left pinky waggling in the air and that I'm wearing a three piece suit as I watch it on TV. I mean really, you primitive screwheads riot at the drop of a hat.
That's what's so amusing about Apple folks, they think Apple has secret sauce nobody else has. Other vendors have all of that stuff, literally none of it is unique to Apple except the trendy names.
Amusing, you're both lazy and completely full of shit.
Go ahead and read here and since I know what a lazy asshole you are you can just skip through and do a ctrl-f on "insult" and "sex" to see how many places have laws effectively against "insulting" any given race or other useless false grouping of humans. Sure, they wouldn't arrest you for insulting women drivers, but that's why I said "technically".
I'll try to remember what a lazy asshole you are next time and I'll cut and paste links it took me 30 seconds to find in Google.
Guy got convicted for hate speech for preaching against homosexuality in Sweden. He didn't make threats or incitements, he blathered about it being evil and against magic sky man's will, all that crap. It was overturned, but he was convicted at one point.
Gregorius Nekschot was arrested in Holland for violation of hate speech laws, I didn't see any incitement and it wasn't work related.
Ezra Levant got dragged before some bureaucrat to defend his speech in Canada. Holocaust deniers are of course fair game in parts of Europe, and that's literally just having an idiotic opinion. See also Pedro Varela.
Nice strawman, and I even think you threw in some kind of retarded reverse slippery slope bullshit in there too. I never said they were all the same, I said this ridiculous concept of "illegal ideas" isn't specific to the third world, though like everything else their punishment is a hell of a lot worse.
You're like one of those douches who argues that since I think there's too much taxation I must think there should be 0 taxation, and that to raise any issues about how much we're taxed or how that tax money is spent means I must be for private roads and anarchy.
What should be illegal is speech which poses a threat of imminent danger or rises to the level of threats of bodily harm. Fraudulent statements should be illegal. Slander/libel (though with a fairly high bar of proof on behalf of the slandered person) should be illegal. Trafficking in child porn (actual, not virtual).
What _should not_ be illegal is easier to classify - basically any statement of opinion or support of an idea, regardless of how stupid the idea. Holocaust denial, sexism, racism, homophobia, even the ridiculous 99% vs 1% incitement should be legal unless they actually call for hangings and executions.
You want to know what's fucking facile? The argument that since we will always have government controls over something that we shouldn't criticize or debate the extent of those controls.
"Oh, well Jolly Fuck All. Since we will always have taxation, what's your problem with an 80% rate? I mean what the fuck kind of idiot doesn't know we will always have death and taxes?!".
I'm unclear about the number of levels of indirection and sarcasm in your first paragraph due to that last sentence. Therefore I will ignore the last sentence and play your first paragraph as mostly straight.
Yes, homophobia is acceptable as is spouting racism. Hating women is fine too. Just don't assault someone and you can be as much of a homophobic, racist, sexist fuckstain as you want.
Lol, now you're also trying to pretend all religious "CONSERVATIVES" are the same. I'm atheist, myself, but even I can see the difference between your typical bible thumper here in the states and an Islamic radical who wants to behead a woman for having the audacity to be raped. Not that there aren't radical kook Christians who are insane as well, but by and large it's far less common.
Your false, pointless dichotomy is fucking amusing to me. Let's grow beyond being 5 years old and look at censorship independently of what someone else is doing. I condemn assholes who want "DEATH" for what someone said. I also condemn assholes who want PRISON or FINES for what someone said because it offends their delicate worldview.
Kooks on both sides. It would technically be against the law to make a "Oh, those bad woman drivers" comment in some parts of Europe. Or to tell a racist joke. Or to mock an extremely effeminate gay person.
It's simply the progression from human rights being important to societal "rights" trumping those human rights. In some cases that's necessary, but the bar is pretty low in some places.
I'm amused by your risible attempt to conflate radical Islam with "right wingers" in general. I mean it's a nice try, but right wing runs the gamut from people who think our government spends too much money to people who think we should have Shariah or Bible law enforced at gunpoint. It's a meaninglessly large bucket.
I agree those first things should be illegal. That was my point, simply expressing an opinion about certain things that _aren't_ immediately dangerous is illegal in much of the "developed" world.
You and others missing something. I agree it should be illegal to say things which are a threat or which create an immediate danger. The problem is that simply expressing an often stupid opinion is illegal in many places around the world, and not just the third world.
Wow, that's a compelling argument. I'd put it a step above "You are a doody head" and a step below "Nuh uh".
I suggest you go to Sweden and preach how you find homosexuality to be abhorrent and against "God's" will. Or maybe go to Germany and say really love Hitler. Or that you think Arabs in poor neighborhoods are dangerous thieves.
I don't agree with any of that, but it's a fundamental right to be an idiot and to express that idiocy as you will. But I'm just preaching to the choir, as you clearly already know that.
And it's not just those backwards fools everyone in the middle east talks about. There are upstanding, progressive regimes in Europe where there are literally things you can say that don't involve a threat of violence or which won't cause immediate danger to those around you ("I'm going to kill you!" or "Fire!") which are still considered illegal.
It's cute because these same nations are held up by many as paragons of virtue in terms of human rights, health care, standard of living, etc... Just don't voice an illegal opinion and you'll be fine, that's all.
Like I couldn't put DOS on a USB stick as soon as USB boot support was added. Linux didn't really innovate anything amazing there either. And you've been able to create bootable Live-Windows USB sticks for ages and ages.
Yeah, only Windows Server is technical awesome on almost every level. It's not perfect for every scenario, but neither is Linux. 'course I'm spoiled and work in a corporation with easy/cheap access to it.
Do you have any examples of this or are you just making stuff up? I'm sure Microsoft is really out there touting their amazing innovation for making obvious enhancements to the file copy dialog.
And crash. The last 6 months have seen an average of 1 white-screen hang every 2 days or so.
Students pursuing seismology as a profession saw a sharp decline.
Why would anyone pursue a career where it's so easy to make a simple mistake and be liable for penalties like this for something that is out of your control?
Monitors are a different story. I think my next monitor may be a 27" TV with 2560 resolution. There it does matter, I have good vision and I can cram lots of small shit on the screen.
Seriously, I'm trying to teach European law to a European? That is some of the stupidest fucking appeal to authority nonsense I've ever heard. Really? You're presenting your authority as (lol) a "European" as meaningful?
So let me see if I understand you.
Nyuh uh!
That's pretty compelling. I guess I could go get the actual text from the laws of the relevant countries, but you're just wave your hands and say "Nyuh uh!" again.
All of those things I listed (except for the woman drivers stuff, and one could easily decide that based on the wording of the laws it is included) have already been used to arrest or convict people. Your inability to do simple Google searches and your pathetic need to resort to the most boring rebuttal in the world "Wikipedia/Google tsk tsk how silly" is somewhat amazing, even given that I now know what a lazy asshole you are.
As for civilized, we'll see when you fuckers are rioting in the streets over losing some more of your welfare how civilized you are. Just to make it doubly ironic I'll make sure I'm drinking tea from a tiny teacup with my left pinky waggling in the air and that I'm wearing a three piece suit as I watch it on TV. I mean really, you primitive screwheads riot at the drop of a hat.
That's what's so amusing about Apple folks, they think Apple has secret sauce nobody else has. Other vendors have all of that stuff, literally none of it is unique to Apple except the trendy names.
What problem? Unless you've got a 32" TV you sit 18" from or a 65" TV you sit 4' from, you don't need anything over HD.
Don't get me wrong, I'll _take_ as much as you can give me for a reasonable price, but at that point it's just icing on the cake.
Now, when I've got a wall sized TV display than I site 10 feet from, I'll maybe want 4k resolution.
Amusing, you're both lazy and completely full of shit.
Go ahead and read here and since I know what a lazy asshole you are you can just skip through and do a ctrl-f on "insult" and "sex" to see how many places have laws effectively against "insulting" any given race or other useless false grouping of humans. Sure, they wouldn't arrest you for insulting women drivers, but that's why I said "technically".
I'll try to remember what a lazy asshole you are next time and I'll cut and paste links it took me 30 seconds to find in Google.
Not true.
Guy got convicted for hate speech for preaching against homosexuality in Sweden. He didn't make threats or incitements, he blathered about it being evil and against magic sky man's will, all that crap. It was overturned, but he was convicted at one point.
Gregorius Nekschot was arrested in Holland for violation of hate speech laws, I didn't see any incitement and it wasn't work related.
Ezra Levant got dragged before some bureaucrat to defend his speech in Canada. Holocaust deniers are of course fair game in parts of Europe, and that's literally just having an idiotic opinion. See also Pedro Varela.
Nice strawman, and I even think you threw in some kind of retarded reverse slippery slope bullshit in there too. I never said they were all the same, I said this ridiculous concept of "illegal ideas" isn't specific to the third world, though like everything else their punishment is a hell of a lot worse.
You're like one of those douches who argues that since I think there's too much taxation I must think there should be 0 taxation, and that to raise any issues about how much we're taxed or how that tax money is spent means I must be for private roads and anarchy.
What should be illegal is speech which poses a threat of imminent danger or rises to the level of threats of bodily harm. Fraudulent statements should be illegal. Slander/libel (though with a fairly high bar of proof on behalf of the slandered person) should be illegal. Trafficking in child porn (actual, not virtual).
What _should not_ be illegal is easier to classify - basically any statement of opinion or support of an idea, regardless of how stupid the idea. Holocaust denial, sexism, racism, homophobia, even the ridiculous 99% vs 1% incitement should be legal unless they actually call for hangings and executions.
You want to know what's fucking facile? The argument that since we will always have government controls over something that we shouldn't criticize or debate the extent of those controls.
"Oh, well Jolly Fuck All. Since we will always have taxation, what's your problem with an 80% rate? I mean what the fuck kind of idiot doesn't know we will always have death and taxes?!".
I'm unclear about the number of levels of indirection and sarcasm in your first paragraph due to that last sentence. Therefore I will ignore the last sentence and play your first paragraph as mostly straight.
Yes, homophobia is acceptable as is spouting racism. Hating women is fine too. Just don't assault someone and you can be as much of a homophobic, racist, sexist fuckstain as you want.
Lol, now you're also trying to pretend all religious "CONSERVATIVES" are the same. I'm atheist, myself, but even I can see the difference between your typical bible thumper here in the states and an Islamic radical who wants to behead a woman for having the audacity to be raped. Not that there aren't radical kook Christians who are insane as well, but by and large it's far less common.
Your false, pointless dichotomy is fucking amusing to me. Let's grow beyond being 5 years old and look at censorship independently of what someone else is doing. I condemn assholes who want "DEATH" for what someone said. I also condemn assholes who want PRISON or FINES for what someone said because it offends their delicate worldview.
Kooks on both sides. It would technically be against the law to make a "Oh, those bad woman drivers" comment in some parts of Europe. Or to tell a racist joke. Or to mock an extremely effeminate gay person.
It's simply the progression from human rights being important to societal "rights" trumping those human rights. In some cases that's necessary, but the bar is pretty low in some places.
I'm amused by your risible attempt to conflate radical Islam with "right wingers" in general. I mean it's a nice try, but right wing runs the gamut from people who think our government spends too much money to people who think we should have Shariah or Bible law enforced at gunpoint. It's a meaninglessly large bucket.
I agree those first things should be illegal. That was my point, simply expressing an opinion about certain things that _aren't_ immediately dangerous is illegal in much of the "developed" world.
You and others missing something. I agree it should be illegal to say things which are a threat or which create an immediate danger. The problem is that simply expressing an often stupid opinion is illegal in many places around the world, and not just the third world.
Wow, that's a compelling argument. I'd put it a step above "You are a doody head" and a step below "Nuh uh".
I suggest you go to Sweden and preach how you find homosexuality to be abhorrent and against "God's" will. Or maybe go to Germany and say really love Hitler. Or that you think Arabs in poor neighborhoods are dangerous thieves.
I don't agree with any of that, but it's a fundamental right to be an idiot and to express that idiocy as you will. But I'm just preaching to the choir, as you clearly already know that.
Haha, modded "troll". I can only guess the irony of this is lost on whoever did that, but I like their style.
Lol, yeah what's wrong with putting this guy to death for tweeting that? I mean frankly he deserves it.
And it's not just those backwards fools everyone in the middle east talks about. There are upstanding, progressive regimes in Europe where there are literally things you can say that don't involve a threat of violence or which won't cause immediate danger to those around you ("I'm going to kill you!" or "Fire!") which are still considered illegal.
It's cute because these same nations are held up by many as paragons of virtue in terms of human rights, health care, standard of living, etc... Just don't voice an illegal opinion and you'll be fine, that's all.
Yeah, they're really worried about Linux taking over their desktop market. 2012 - the year of linux on the desktop, amirite?
Like I couldn't put DOS on a USB stick as soon as USB boot support was added. Linux didn't really innovate anything amazing there either. And you've been able to create bootable Live-Windows USB sticks for ages and ages.
Yeah, only Windows Server is technical awesome on almost every level. It's not perfect for every scenario, but neither is Linux. 'course I'm spoiled and work in a corporation with easy/cheap access to it.
Do you have any examples of this or are you just making stuff up? I'm sure Microsoft is really out there touting their amazing innovation for making obvious enhancements to the file copy dialog.
Only they haven't taken anything. That list is ridiculous.
Only if you read the article it's a bunch of fluff, only in the vaguest sense did MS borrow any ideas. A better file copy dialog.. seriously?
Yeah.. Linux. Microsoft totally ripped off Linux..before Linux existed. You people crack me up.