Problem is to many are just plain straight addicted to the content.
Yeah that's right you heard me their addicted to the music and the media they just can't get enough of it. It has nothing really to do with them not being able to co-ordinate their hate against one company or another. So simply asking them to boycott even one would make many go through severe withdrawls that they would kill their best friend their lover heck anybody you asked them to just to get their next fix.
Ok maybe not but it does certainly seems that way.
Very few only a limited number of people are able to (or want to) go cold turkey and kick the habit altogether by not listening or watching the "content" so I have serious doupts as to something even like this having any real success. It would really have to be something that so pisses everybody off that they'll make the sacrifice for just a little while and hope it makes a impact on the industry as a whole so they'll back off but if not people will loose interest or sight of what they were doing it for after a short time and fall into accepting it.
Why do you think kings and emperors or pharoses and sultans were able to control the masses? By having a core group of heavyily armed men trained to kill? No if the kingdom or country all turned against him and his men it wouldn't matter how heavily armed they were or how well trained the masses would simply overrun them and overthrow the king. A fact that was demenstraited by the French during their revolution (ok so a pompus, arrogant, greedy, powerhungry little pipsqueek came out of that but still) when the people are pushed to the brink with no other recourse they will act. But if they can't do so in significant numbers or bring a speedy resolution to the comflict and so they can set about redoing everything then the whole thing peeters out fast it's human nature and it's how a few can control so many for so long even though the masses hate them.
That's the thing that caused me such problems for so long about human history trying to understand how a larger number of people could allow themselves to be controled by a few people or by one man for so long or end up going from one bad controlling leadership to another so quickly and easily so often.
It's just plain nuts, Even the US is ripe for some power mad dictator or mordern day Ceaser to step in and take control because we have lost the drive to fight against it ala red dawn (which would never happen in real life as people would end up sadly giving in).
Even our founding fathers had a tough time of it convincing the people of the colonies to take up the sword against the crown. It took almost a decade of failed attempts to set off the revolution untill the boston tea party caused the king to send in troops that loyalists started badgering one night drawing a crowd and a coupel thrown rocks later the small scared cornered garrison open fire (in self defense mind you) killing several colenists leading to outrage amoungst the public and resulted in the american revolution (after some creative wood cut drawing propaganda of course).
Even then victory wasn't a forgone conclusion if the founding fathers hadn't gotten washington to put his head into the noose with them by signing the declaration of independance (making him as much of a traitor punishable by death as they were the war which up till then was going nowhere might have ended with the colonies surrender made a radical change in course) after that washingtons forces started fighting much more aggressivly and ended up winning the war.
If it hadn't been for some well placed and much needed pushes at the proper time the US would never have fought this war nor won it.
Would such a thing happen now if it was needed? I kinda doupt it the enemy is much better prepared and
No in fact you didn't misread it.
It is infact our Anal-log holes that's in question and the entertainment industry wants to plug it with guess what. *&%% plugs!
That's right they wanna stick em right up our Anal-log holes, It gives them a certain sick kind of pleasure and us a disgusting dirty feeling (aside from thoughs perverse few that get off on that kind of thing).
Lol J/K you're the only one:D
Does kinda sound similar when you think of it though.
True ICBM's and other weapons of mass destruction did come out of the space race among other projects but to claim based on the ideas to present that the space race was simply about publicly showing the world who had the most power to destroy all of mankind or to give certain politicians fatter bank accounts or to benifit their states is simply insane and assinine.
You clearly dont understand the whole idea of the race to space.
It was multi part, Part who had the better tech and social/ecconimic system as well as to shore up their pollitical careers (how could polliticians justify to their constituents keeping them in office while they or our government did nothing about that satalite orbiting overhead) not who could launch the biggest nuke on the other (though thoughs ideas did come about as a result but the result wasn't to show that both could rain down enough destruction on earth to end it all for everyone) which is hardly showing who was better. When you reach the point that you and your enemy can wipe out all life on the planet you have hardly shown either to be better.
It was more about showing who's ecconimic system and political system was better as well as who had the better tech to that end the US ended up winning out by reaching the moon and returning the occupence of the vessel to earth safly. Which did show to the world who had a better social/ecconomic system but also a side benifit of who had the better tech. Of a negative result it also showed the world that both nations had the power now to bring an end to life on earth. As a positive however it also showed that one launching a strike on the other would result in a counter strike (MAD) or Mutual Assured Destruction which would keep one side from launching on the other. This helped keep the balance till one side could outdue the other via tech which the US manajed to win which resulted in the collapse of the USSR in 1991.
Since then however this side benifit has resulted in helping fuel anti American sentiment (mostly due to the loss of the previous counter balance to the US in the fomer USSR) without them many people in other nations belive rightly or wrongly that their is nothing to keep the US from expressing it's ambitions for power (outside of china which is not on par to the US right now) which could lead it to try and take over large parts if not all of the world which has helped fuel anti american sentiment which hasn't been helped by the iraq war.
But that's neither here nor their the main goals of the US during the space race was more defined as social and ecconomic and pollitical rather than that of power or militarily.
If you think that you have obviously missinterprited the whole idea of the space race.
If you want to go by shear power of missles the russian ones were more powerfull (they were also more prone to failure because of a larger number of engines which were smaller and larger in number which resulted in more problems trying to launch them) they also demistrated the most powerfull hydrogen bomb and had the most overall number of Nukes but the fact that both countries had enough nukes to wipe out all life on earth several times over created a stalemate which as i said gave most of the rest of the world comfort in the fact that most likely neither side would launch on the other no matter how greedy or ambitious they might have been as it would end up wipeing us all out which would serve noone.
But that comfort is gone and gives some cause for concern if not outright panic about what the US might do or about what it is doing. I've heard some doosy's like were trying to take over the world via corperations infiltrating other countries (the people of France weren't to happy about the idea we sent a clown (MCD's) instead of someone anyone else to ecconimcly conqure them) While untrue at least as fa
And keeping it safe and protected from all things as a preserve even from the dieing sun itself but only till the money runs out then it's goodbye earth (the rich can pay to odserve the end of the world AKA Doctor who SCIFI Channel eppisode end of the world which aired this last week) (Sorry for the Doc who ref i liked watching it as a child on PBS when tom baker was the Doctor not sure about this current one but I give him a chance).
At any rate i agree the best thing we humans could do to fix the problems of earth is to get the heck off it asap. Any other choice is futile as we could never undo the problems we created without creating new ones in the porccess especially as our population continues to grow. But the earth itself will heal itself from them given time it has done so in the past and will do so again in the future after were gone, the earth is great at doing that sure life may suffer some in the proccess but then it always has and has in the end improved in the proccess. What we need is not better ideas to solve our problems while still staying here but more space and places to call home man made solar extra solar (other worlds in and out of our system) to give us back the elbow room we have lost in recent times as well as space from each other to a degree.
If people haven't figured this out yet then their truly is no hope for mankind and mother earth gia whatever ideal you ascribe to will have to move quickly to find a replacement for us to enable it (if it still can) to transport or spread the life it nurtured for so long to other worlds else everything that has happened on this planet since the start of life was for nothing as the sun heats up and expands to engulf the earth and everthing left on it.
Sorry other may belive that we are destined to blow ourselves up or that some God will bring the world to an end but i belive their is more to what this our life ( all life not just us) is destined for more. If for thoughs who belive in god do not belive he intended for us to move out into the universe to populate it with other alien races wherever then why create all of it? Why so much? All the Galaxies and solar systems and worlds just for what? Us to look at? Him to occupy his time till he decides that ok he's had enough of our foolishness and arogance it's time to bring down the hammer on planet earth his only (yeah right what fool belives that one given all the universe mentioned) experiment or place he decided to grace with life?
Sorry i choose to belive we are meant for more or capable of much more than destroying ourselves.
Sorry off topic i got on a rant.
Bottom line unless we adopt a policy of Zero population growth or minus population growth or get into some serious heavy world wars every century or so things are nver going to get better because their will just be to many of us and not enough earth to go around. Our only other option is to get off earth fast and leave it for whatever time it has left to try and start again with some other spiecies and hope it can bring them to space travel within 20 million years otherwise it's pretty much over for earth it's out of the goldilock zone (not to cold and not to hot it's just right) at which point it starts to heat up and everything roasts.
Heck for many if not most spiecies we may be their only hope to save their genes or get their kind off earth since were likely to take at the very least DNA samples if not actual specimens of most kinds of life at least thoughs we deem worthy of saving (doesn't sound so bad to be a cat or dog or a cow, pig etc. now does it? sure your food or pets now but when we leave we take our food and pets and other worthy life with us so your kind spreads out and grows in size and evolves)with us into space to again preserve them from such a firery end. Think about it have you ever seen a wild bovine (not only here in the US but in Europe where bolvines orriginate)? Would cows have
About as important as Squeeze toys (you know the little ones you squeeze em and the eyes and mouth pop out or it makes a funny sqealing sound).
Why do you ask?
Afraid we might be to culturally relevent?
Seriously though not sure the comunity is large and international some from england and other EU countries as well as asia and well Globally i guess. At least i have seen posts from others from other countries so i assume it's pretty much global.
As to wheather or not our Nations government or most ( or any) credible news service in this country pays any attention to/. Probalably not.
Ok then everybody off to play BF2 or CS or whatever mmo you normally play.
Everythings under control Bush and co. got our backs just relaxe and have fun in your homes but don't go outside you may not like what you see:(
On a serious note though if bush and Co. have their way we may just be back to slavery and quill pens before you know it except we'll be the slaves or surfs.
Just my two pence (can't afford 6 in the modern bush world).
No it isn't new or revealing but it is still just as insightfull and true now as when Ben Franklin spoke it thoughs long Centuries ago and yet still people in our own government seem to either not know it or just plain don't care so it still bears repeating and acknowledgment for what should be Obvious reasons to anybody.
It's the most true and most relevent to whats happening in the post 911 world.
Everyday our government is taking away more and more of our freedoms and liberties all under the the guise or false claim that it will make us more secure but it won't not ever not from someone who truely want's to hurt us they will one way or another and in the end we still get hit just as bad only now we have lost the freedoms that some traded for all to supposedly make us safe.
But some people as i said just don't seem to get that, Mores the pity they are the ones in power making the choices for us and taking the freedoms from us.
If i had mod points i would mod it up as insightfull as well because it is it was then and it is now from someone who died about 2 centuries ago that was truely a great man well ahead of his time (and i don't think most of us have caught up to him yet let alone past him).
LOL yeah i just couldn't resist a shit session when a shit topic came up i had to take advantage of it to put out as many shit lines as i could think of:D
I mean come on they had to expect it when they posted a shit article about shit.
Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shitty shit shit and more shit.
Here's a whole tanker full of shit to dump on top of that as well.
It's gonna be a long time after cleaning up this shit before they post another article about something to do with shit;)
Well i guess you could say i was wance a catholic christian but now i consider myself a religious indepentednt but still christian if that makes any sense.
I have long since abandonded my firm ties to the mainstream of chrstianity but believe in the main views or points theirin about god and jesus but believe (without turning to islam mind you) that catholismum hasn't quite got it all right.
I now consider myself a religious independent within christianity but still christian and am willing to entertain other viewpoints to gain what i hope is a deeper understanding of god and his plans for us.
Given all that i still look into the only bible i have (one given to me in my teen years by my mother) for guidance from time to time and to try and understand things and see if they might help or give new meaning to modern life. Though i don't look at it and try to make parts of it fit events happening around me i more look at it and try to see if things may or may not co-incied and connect or fall along the same lines, But enough about my religious slant.
I have looked at that part of the bible more than once and something about it has always seemed kind of different to me from what others have claimed or held to and after spending much soul searching and atempts at justification i came to the only conculsion that i could given my own viewpoint (which i readily admit others may or may not see or believe) was that catholisium was promoting or reflecting however inocently or blantently (i make no judgments) the end times. That christians who were to be saved wouldn't be around to witness at least not first hand or personally what was to happen according to revelation the events of mans end on earth or at least what we have come to know as mans life on earth.
This is what has come to disturb me most not because it is to happen but because of how many mainstream christians look apone it as something to welcome or look forrward to when given at least my outlook it is a time to morn or dread though maybe nessicary it will be for me at least a time of great personal suffering knowing what others will go through who (maybe even myself as i cannot fortell my feight (how do you spell that) let alone others) are left behind as mainstream christians put it or see it. To see it as something to look forward to as many christians seem to see it leaves me feeling ill or dirty because these are afterall humnan souls that have the same feelings and emotions though different viewpoints and events driving them as you and me and to just well you get the idea.
I just cant personally divorce myself from this or them no matter how i have tried and how much i have thought about it ( think to much about things almost nobody wants to hear thats my trouble) and so i have come to the conclusion that this isn't something to welcome as many tend to look apone it as or play it off as but more a time to dread even though it has to happen it's a time to look on with great sorrow and outpouring of our own grief and emotions. But as ultimaly inivitable to progress to the next level or stage of being but that doesn't mean that the path is to be welcomed or pardoned or however many of the christians tend to see it as it does come at a terrible cost in life and human suffering.
Ok ive gone just about to far with my own preaching and personal views on this. It is as i said up to you and others to truely decide for yourselves what you feel is right christianity, Islam, Jewidium, Hinduisum, Douisum, Yourisum, Myisum or someotherisum. At any event if you belive or consider an end time it is important to consider all aspects of it something which many have not or at least have not paid as much attention to as they should given it's importance or what should be it's importance to humans.
Of course i could always just be some nut with to many screws loose so whos to say. But i can only say and
That was actually a line from Mad Max beyond Thunder Dome had to use it.
Nice story though but i gotta say thats a whole lotta shit
Seriously the shits getting pretty deep now we may have to shovel our way out.
This is all just shit anyway so might as well just add some more shit to the pile.
This place is turning into a real shit hole you know gotta back in the spreader and clean some of this shit out, It'll be good for the fields they could use the shit.
Im just gonna take my shit and go now got places to go and shit to do and shit to see, Have to go talk some shit over with some friends later to so.
Don't let the door hit me in the shit hole on the way out K.:D
Oh and shit shit shit shit shittty shit shit!!!!!!
Fear food with a side of evil Overlord and crispy fries also some fool's religion with some Prophecy to go in a bag if you could.
Put it all on my Visa 666 card charged to the beast ok
Oh and could you throw some twisted truths and heavens gate with gatekeepers and a few bad deed counters hold the soul work, And also could i get some access to will power as well.
Oh almost forgot put a key in the bag as well heavens gate is no good without the key, Gotta have the key.
Just put it all on the plastic if you could thanks.:D
Sorry twisted humor you left that one out of your menu.:P
No beast no mark no rapture so they welcome it. Sure Jesus and his army will face the beast and his army but if you paid attention it's after he has reigned for a time and has corupted thoughs he could and killed the rest other than the ones already raptured away (they wont be their to fight they were raptured away to save them from the horror and bloodshed) except for the Jews in the holy land which he plans to wipe out last hence the gathering in the valley of megeido or armagedon. But it's after the mark has already been placed on everybody else so your point is mute.
And no you don't need to look it up for me i have already read it several times but you might want to re-read it for yourself though.
If im to die or suffer eternally i want it to take as long as possible to get to me so i can live a little longer without sizzling before i start to sizzle.
Efficient hell is not a good thing... err what i mean is it's not.....
Aww hell leave hell as it is god whats with you pencil pushers anyway your all just nuts!
Ok so thoughs who get saved get to sit up their in heaven watching everybody else being tortured and suffering and being killed in all sorts of unimaginable ways in incredible numbers not seen at any time every in human history. That's something to look forward to? Something to welcome? A good thing? Man your morals are seriously screwed up if you think this is something to welcome.
I'll tell you what it really is it's Inhuman Monstrous and carried out by the worst Evil (Satan) that's what it is. Yes it's ordained by God and so has to happen but it's Evil lest you forget that is to carry it out and cause all the suffering and pain and misery and tortured deaths.
It's also necessary inevitable and needs to happen in order for the next step but it's not something you should be wanting to happen any sooner than it has to unless your seriously sick and messed up. Nobody who calls themselves a good Christian or a good human being that cares about their fellow man should welcome it not ever.
When it's going to happen it's going to happen and things will move on but don't sit their all pious and self righteous saying welcome it and call the event to unfold a good thing because it's not. What happens after is the good thing but not what happens on the way their.
Besides you never know who of your friends and family members may get left behind to go through the bad half of the apocalypse and would you still feel it's a good thing to know what their going to go through while your all nice a comfy up their riding the worst of it out in comfort?
Some things to think about the next time you feel something like this is a good thing to be welcomed or whether it's a necessary evil and hardship for man to go through and suffer in order to get to the good that comes after.
And maybe while your up their on that cloud with God and Jesus with everybody else you could feel a bit of humanity while you watch all the souls suffering and being tortured and kill in gruesome horrible ways and at least shed a tear for them.
Maybe after it's over you could tell me if you still think that part was a good thing and should be welcomed because I would really like to know why you could still think that about all of that.
Sorry to be gruff and that but im a little sick of people calling themselves good Christians and then saying we should welcome it without even seeming to think about what is truly going to happen and how horrible it will be for so many (and that will almost certainly include children as well) and say it's a good thing.
I personally just can't see it that way nor would I ever want to. I don't fear it though I do fear what will happen to the many and so I don't welcome it I rather except it as inevitable but that part isn't welcomed at least not by me.
I just don't see how good Christians could, I couldn't see Jesus welcoming it either but that's just me I guess.
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understhand this: if the owner of the house had knwon at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept wach and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Jesus
Jesus said he will come when we don't expect him He also said when asked by the apostles when the end of the world would come that "Noone knows not the Angles in heaven nor the son of god himself only the father knows that".
So basicly the end of the world will come when we don't expect it or aren't predicting it which christians and doom sayers have been doing for the last 2000 years and counting. Thus ensuring the end of the world will not come for sometime to come yet as long as people keep expecting it to come.
It was also said the end would come at a time when belief in god was at it lowest and man has turned his back from god which isn't now. The fact that roughly 90% of the world calls themselves christian or jewish or even muslim and believe in god means that belief in god is in fact at it's highest higher in fact than it has been at any other period.
Also going by the prophecy of the popes the next standing pope (or is it the one after him) is supposed to be the last pope and will feed his flock on many tribulations. I forget who it was that made the predictions of all the popes from begining to the end but so far his discriptions of the popes in order has been right on.
So the belief of christians about revelations and their getting twitchy and freaky every 1000 years or so should be seen as a good thing a positive thing that they are helping through their fear of the end of days to keep it from happening if it's going to happen at least it wont at thoughs times because it's expected to. It maybe crap but it keeps them occupied mostly except for the odd occation they take to elect damm fools to office, And they've seen jesus and mary on plenty of other things besides french toast like underpasses and in windows and on walls etc it doesn't take much for them to see some passed on religious figure in something somewere.
Besides why would you want to be the last pope to preside over the end of the church anyway? It would be more of a black mark on your name and position if the prophecy did happen come to pass.
Most good god fearing christians want to bring about revelation or the rapture.
Why?
Because they belive that they will be raptured away from earth to heaven and be with god and jesus before all the bad stuff goes down and the end comes. So they would be happy that the end times have arrived never mind the suffering on the human scale that is to follow.
One thing that gets me is how could good christians want to have such a thing happen any sooner than it has to given the suffering torture coruption of human souls and deaths that are to surely happen.
Just seems inhuman to me and they call themselves good christians? The mind boggles.
Imagine that software limits imposed by hardware instead of software well who'd a thunk it.
Nah on second thought thats a bad idea why then everybody wouldn't go running out to buy new pc's to pump up the mighty intel machine. It could end up collapsing on us all!
Death carnage and cpu's scattered everywere it would just be a huge mess!
Better to keep the mighty intel running smoothly on the artificial limits and peoples misspent cash than face that future.
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Nice idea in theory.....
Problem is to many are just plain straight addicted to the content.
Yeah that's right you heard me their addicted to the music and the media they just can't get enough of it. It has nothing really to do with them not being able to co-ordinate their hate against one company or another. So simply asking them to boycott even one would make many go through severe withdrawls that they would kill their best friend their lover heck anybody you asked them to just to get their next fix.
Ok maybe not but it does certainly seems that way.
Very few only a limited number of people are able to (or want to) go cold turkey and kick the habit altogether by not listening or watching the "content" so I have serious doupts as to something even like this having any real success. It would really have to be something that so pisses everybody off that they'll make the sacrifice for just a little while and hope it makes a impact on the industry as a whole so they'll back off but if not people will loose interest or sight of what they were doing it for after a short time and fall into accepting it.
Why do you think kings and emperors or pharoses and sultans were able to control the masses? By having a core group of heavyily armed men trained to kill? No if the kingdom or country all turned against him and his men it wouldn't matter how heavily armed they were or how well trained the masses would simply overrun them and overthrow the king. A fact that was demenstraited by the French during their revolution (ok so a pompus, arrogant, greedy, powerhungry little pipsqueek came out of that but still) when the people are pushed to the brink with no other recourse they will act. But if they can't do so in significant numbers or bring a speedy resolution to the comflict and so they can set about redoing everything then the whole thing peeters out fast it's human nature and it's how a few can control so many for so long even though the masses hate them.
That's the thing that caused me such problems for so long about human history trying to understand how a larger number of people could allow themselves to be controled by a few people or by one man for so long or end up going from one bad controlling leadership to another so quickly and easily so often.
It's just plain nuts, Even the US is ripe for some power mad dictator or mordern day Ceaser to step in and take control because we have lost the drive to fight against it ala red dawn (which would never happen in real life as people would end up sadly giving in).
Even our founding fathers had a tough time of it convincing the people of the colonies to take up the sword against the crown. It took almost a decade of failed attempts to set off the revolution untill the boston tea party caused the king to send in troops that loyalists started badgering one night drawing a crowd and a coupel thrown rocks later the small scared cornered garrison open fire (in self defense mind you) killing several colenists leading to outrage amoungst the public and resulted in the american revolution (after some creative wood cut drawing propaganda of course).
Even then victory wasn't a forgone conclusion if the founding fathers hadn't gotten washington to put his head into the noose with them by signing the declaration of independance (making him as much of a traitor punishable by death as they were the war which up till then was going nowhere might have ended with the colonies surrender made a radical change in course) after that washingtons forces started fighting much more aggressivly and ended up winning the war.
If it hadn't been for some well placed and much needed pushes at the proper time the US would never have fought this war nor won it.
Would such a thing happen now if it was needed? I kinda doupt it the enemy is much better prepared and
No in fact you didn't misread it.
:D
It is infact our Anal-log holes that's in question and the entertainment industry wants to plug it with guess what. *&%% plugs!
That's right they wanna stick em right up our Anal-log holes, It gives them a certain sick kind of pleasure and us a disgusting dirty feeling (aside from thoughs perverse few that get off on that kind of thing).
Lol J/K you're the only one
Does kinda sound similar when you think of it though.
What the heck kind of crack have you been on?
True ICBM's and other weapons of mass destruction did come out of the space race among other projects but to claim based on the ideas to present that the space race was simply about publicly showing the world who had the most power to destroy all of mankind or to give certain politicians fatter bank accounts or to benifit their states is simply insane and assinine.
You clearly dont understand the whole idea of the race to space.
It was multi part, Part who had the better tech and social/ecconimic system as well as to shore up their pollitical careers (how could polliticians justify to their constituents keeping them in office while they or our government did nothing about that satalite orbiting overhead) not who could launch the biggest nuke on the other (though thoughs ideas did come about as a result but the result wasn't to show that both could rain down enough destruction on earth to end it all for everyone) which is hardly showing who was better. When you reach the point that you and your enemy can wipe out all life on the planet you have hardly shown either to be better.
It was more about showing who's ecconimic system and political system was better as well as who had the better tech to that end the US ended up winning out by reaching the moon and returning the occupence of the vessel to earth safly. Which did show to the world who had a better social/ecconomic system but also a side benifit of who had the better tech. Of a negative result it also showed the world that both nations had the power now to bring an end to life on earth. As a positive however it also showed that one launching a strike on the other would result in a counter strike (MAD) or Mutual Assured Destruction which would keep one side from launching on the other. This helped keep the balance till one side could outdue the other via tech which the US manajed to win which resulted in the collapse of the USSR in 1991.
Since then however this side benifit has resulted in helping fuel anti American sentiment (mostly due to the loss of the previous counter balance to the US in the fomer USSR) without them many people in other nations belive rightly or wrongly that their is nothing to keep the US from expressing it's ambitions for power (outside of china which is not on par to the US right now) which could lead it to try and take over large parts if not all of the world which has helped fuel anti american sentiment which hasn't been helped by the iraq war.
But that's neither here nor their the main goals of the US during the space race was more defined as social and ecconomic and pollitical rather than that of power or militarily.
If you think that you have obviously missinterprited the whole idea of the space race.
If you want to go by shear power of missles the russian ones were more powerfull (they were also more prone to failure because of a larger number of engines which were smaller and larger in number which resulted in more problems trying to launch them) they also demistrated the most powerfull hydrogen bomb and had the most overall number of Nukes but the fact that both countries had enough nukes to wipe out all life on earth several times over created a stalemate which as i said gave most of the rest of the world comfort in the fact that most likely neither side would launch on the other no matter how greedy or ambitious they might have been as it would end up wipeing us all out which would serve noone.
But that comfort is gone and gives some cause for concern if not outright panic about what the US might do or about what it is doing. I've heard some doosy's like were trying to take over the world via corperations infiltrating other countries (the people of France weren't to happy about the idea we sent a clown (MCD's) instead of someone anyone else to ecconimcly conqure them) While untrue at least as fa
And keeping it safe and protected from all things as a preserve even from the dieing sun itself but only till the money runs out then it's goodbye earth (the rich can pay to odserve the end of the world AKA Doctor who SCIFI Channel eppisode end of the world which aired this last week) (Sorry for the Doc who ref i liked watching it as a child on PBS when tom baker was the Doctor not sure about this current one but I give him a chance).
At any rate i agree the best thing we humans could do to fix the problems of earth is to get the heck off it asap. Any other choice is futile as we could never undo the problems we created without creating new ones in the porccess especially as our population continues to grow. But the earth itself will heal itself from them given time it has done so in the past and will do so again in the future after were gone, the earth is great at doing that sure life may suffer some in the proccess but then it always has and has in the end improved in the proccess. What we need is not better ideas to solve our problems while still staying here but more space and places to call home man made solar extra solar (other worlds in and out of our system) to give us back the elbow room we have lost in recent times as well as space from each other to a degree.
If people haven't figured this out yet then their truly is no hope for mankind and mother earth gia whatever ideal you ascribe to will have to move quickly to find a replacement for us to enable it (if it still can) to transport or spread the life it nurtured for so long to other worlds else everything that has happened on this planet since the start of life was for nothing as the sun heats up and expands to engulf the earth and everthing left on it.
Sorry other may belive that we are destined to blow ourselves up or that some God will bring the world to an end but i belive their is more to what this our life ( all life not just us) is destined for more. If for thoughs who belive in god do not belive he intended for us to move out into the universe to populate it with other alien races wherever then why create all of it? Why so much? All the Galaxies and solar systems and worlds just for what? Us to look at? Him to occupy his time till he decides that ok he's had enough of our foolishness and arogance it's time to bring down the hammer on planet earth his only (yeah right what fool belives that one given all the universe mentioned) experiment or place he decided to grace with life?
Sorry i choose to belive we are meant for more or capable of much more than destroying ourselves.
Sorry off topic i got on a rant.
Bottom line unless we adopt a policy of Zero population growth or minus population growth or get into some serious heavy world wars every century or so things are nver going to get better because their will just be to many of us and not enough earth to go around. Our only other option is to get off earth fast and leave it for whatever time it has left to try and start again with some other spiecies and hope it can bring them to space travel within 20 million years otherwise it's pretty much over for earth it's out of the goldilock zone (not to cold and not to hot it's just right) at which point it starts to heat up and everything roasts.
Heck for many if not most spiecies we may be their only hope to save their genes or get their kind off earth since were likely to take at the very least DNA samples if not actual specimens of most kinds of life at least thoughs we deem worthy of saving (doesn't sound so bad to be a cat or dog or a cow, pig etc. now does it? sure your food or pets now but when we leave we take our food and pets and other worthy life with us so your kind spreads out and grows in size and evolves)with us into space to again preserve them from such a firery end. Think about it have you ever seen a wild bovine (not only here in the US but in Europe where bolvines orriginate)? Would cows have
About as important as Squeeze toys (you know the little ones you squeeze em and the eyes and mouth pop out or it makes a funny sqealing sound).
/. Probalably not.
Why do you ask?
Afraid we might be to culturally relevent?
Seriously though not sure the comunity is large and international some from england and other EU countries as well as asia and well Globally i guess. At least i have seen posts from others from other countries so i assume it's pretty much global.
As to wheather or not our Nations government or most ( or any) credible news service in this country pays any attention to
But it is Gobal.
Right what were we thinking???
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Ok then everybody off to play BF2 or CS or whatever mmo you normally play.
Everythings under control Bush and co. got our backs just relaxe and have fun in your homes but don't go outside you may not like what you see
On a serious note though if bush and Co. have their way we may just be back to slavery and quill pens before you know it except we'll be the slaves or surfs.
Just my two pence (can't afford 6 in the modern bush world).
No i didn't mod it but.
No it isn't new or revealing but it is still just as insightfull and true now as when Ben Franklin spoke it thoughs long Centuries ago and yet still people in our own government seem to either not know it or just plain don't care so it still bears repeating and acknowledgment for what should be Obvious reasons to anybody.
It's the most true and most relevent to whats happening in the post 911 world.
Everyday our government is taking away more and more of our freedoms and liberties all under the the guise or false claim that it will make us more secure but it won't not ever not from someone who truely want's to hurt us they will one way or another and in the end we still get hit just as bad only now we have lost the freedoms that some traded for all to supposedly make us safe.
But some people as i said just don't seem to get that, Mores the pity they are the ones in power making the choices for us and taking the freedoms from us.
If i had mod points i would mod it up as insightfull as well because it is it was then and it is now from someone who died about 2 centuries ago that was truely a great man well ahead of his time (and i don't think most of us have caught up to him yet let alone past him).
Nuf said.
From microsoft-watch.com
"January has emerged as almost a second Christmas, with gift cards, sales, etc. It's a new trend," Goldberg said.
A second christmas?!?!?
Does Santa know about this? Will he have toy's left over or made up in time?
How come nobody said anything about this? We really should be informed about these things, Their should have been a memo!
God think of the bill's! Won't somebody think about the poor poor bill's!
So i guess Vista will ship in time for christmas afterall they just left out which one, The real one or Goldbergs.
Looks like it was Goldbergs.
LOL yeah i just couldn't resist a shit session when a shit topic came up i had to take advantage of it to put out as many shit lines as i could think of:D
;)
I mean come on they had to expect it when they posted a shit article about shit.
Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shitty shit shit and more shit.
Here's a whole tanker full of shit to dump on top of that as well.
It's gonna be a long time after cleaning up this shit before they post another article about something to do with shit
Sorry about the mistakes in my post i was a bit intoxicated ( i make no excusses for it) at the time but my oppinion still stands.
Well i guess you could say i was wance a catholic christian but now i consider myself a religious indepentednt but still christian if that makes any sense.
I have long since abandonded my firm ties to the mainstream of chrstianity but believe in the main views or points theirin about god and jesus but believe (without turning to islam mind you) that catholismum hasn't quite got it all right.
I now consider myself a religious independent within christianity but still christian and am willing to entertain other viewpoints to gain what i hope is a deeper understanding of god and his plans for us.
Given all that i still look into the only bible i have (one given to me in my teen years by my mother) for guidance from time to time and to try and understand things and see if they might help or give new meaning to modern life. Though i don't look at it and try to make parts of it fit events happening around me i more look at it and try to see if things may or may not co-incied and connect or fall along the same lines, But enough about my religious slant.
I have looked at that part of the bible more than once and something about it has always seemed kind of different to me from what others have claimed or held to and after spending much soul searching and atempts at justification i came to the only conculsion that i could given my own viewpoint (which i readily admit others may or may not see or believe) was that catholisium was promoting or reflecting however inocently or blantently (i make no judgments) the end times. That christians who were to be saved wouldn't be around to witness at least not first hand or personally what was to happen according to revelation the events of mans end on earth or at least what we have come to know as mans life on earth.
This is what has come to disturb me most not because it is to happen but because of how many mainstream christians look apone it as something to welcome or look forrward to when given at least my outlook it is a time to morn or dread though maybe nessicary it will be for me at least a time of great personal suffering knowing what others will go through who (maybe even myself as i cannot fortell my feight (how do you spell that) let alone others) are left behind as mainstream christians put it or see it. To see it as something to look forward to as many christians seem to see it leaves me feeling ill or dirty because these are afterall humnan souls that have the same feelings and emotions though different viewpoints and events driving them as you and me and to just well you get the idea.
I just cant personally divorce myself from this or them no matter how i have tried and how much i have thought about it ( think to much about things almost nobody wants to hear thats my trouble) and so i have come to the conclusion that this isn't something to welcome as many tend to look apone it as or play it off as but more a time to dread even though it has to happen it's a time to look on with great sorrow and outpouring of our own grief and emotions. But as ultimaly inivitable to progress to the next level or stage of being but that doesn't mean that the path is to be welcomed or pardoned or however many of the christians tend to see it as it does come at a terrible cost in life and human suffering.
Ok ive gone just about to far with my own preaching and personal views on this. It is as i said up to you and others to truely decide for yourselves what you feel is right christianity, Islam, Jewidium, Hinduisum, Douisum, Yourisum, Myisum or someotherisum. At any event if you belive or consider an end time it is important to consider all aspects of it something which many have not or at least have not paid as much attention to as they should given it's importance or what should be it's importance to humans.
Of course i could always just be some nut with to many screws loose so whos to say. But i can only say and
That was actually a line from Mad Max beyond Thunder Dome had to use it.
:D
Nice story though but i gotta say thats a whole lotta shit
Seriously the shits getting pretty deep now we may have to shovel our way out.
This is all just shit anyway so might as well just add some more shit to the pile.
This place is turning into a real shit hole you know gotta back in the spreader and clean some of this shit out, It'll be good for the fields they could use the shit.
Im just gonna take my shit and go now got places to go and shit to do and shit to see, Have to go talk some shit over with some friends later to so.
Don't let the door hit me in the shit hole on the way out K.
Oh and shit shit shit shit shittty shit shit!!!!!!
Just had to unload that shit as well.
God i love talking shit.
Late
Oh wait Cash or check?
:D
No Plastic?
Ppftttt Forget it then ill go to Mickey D's down the street they take plastic.
Yes i'll get some of your
:D
:P
Fear food with a side of evil Overlord and crispy fries also some fool's religion with some Prophecy to go in a bag if you could.
Put it all on my Visa 666 card charged to the beast ok
Oh and could you throw some twisted truths and heavens gate with gatekeepers and a few bad deed counters hold the soul work, And also could i get some access to will power as well.
Oh almost forgot put a key in the bag as well heavens gate is no good without the key, Gotta have the key.
Just put it all on the plastic if you could thanks.
Sorry twisted humor you left that one out of your menu.
The point is they want the rapture.
No beast no mark no rapture so they welcome it. Sure Jesus and his army will face the beast and his army but if you paid attention it's after he has reigned for a time and has corupted thoughs he could and killed the rest other than the ones already raptured away (they wont be their to fight they were raptured away to save them from the horror and bloodshed) except for the Jews in the holy land which he plans to wipe out last hence the gathering in the valley of megeido or armagedon. But it's after the mark has already been placed on everybody else so your point is mute.
And no you don't need to look it up for me i have already read it several times but you might want to re-read it for yourself though.
You crazy!
If im to die or suffer eternally i want it to take as long as possible to get to me so i can live a little longer without sizzling before i start to sizzle.
Efficient hell is not a good thing... err what i mean is it's not.....
Aww hell leave hell as it is god whats with you pencil pushers anyway your all just nuts!
And then they mysticaly slid over to the right hand except for some which get caught and lodged in the skull opps end of the world.
Better safe than pwn'd.
Ok so thoughs who get saved get to sit up their in heaven watching everybody else being tortured and suffering and being killed in all sorts of unimaginable ways in incredible numbers not seen at any time every in human history. That's something to look forward to? Something to welcome? A good thing? Man your morals are seriously screwed up if you think this is something to welcome.
I'll tell you what it really is it's Inhuman Monstrous and carried out by the worst Evil (Satan) that's what it is. Yes it's ordained by God and so has to happen but it's Evil lest you forget that is to carry it out and cause all the suffering and pain and misery and tortured deaths.
It's also necessary inevitable and needs to happen in order for the next step but it's not something you should be wanting to happen any sooner than it has to unless your seriously sick and messed up. Nobody who calls themselves a good Christian or a good human being that cares about their fellow man should welcome it not ever.
When it's going to happen it's going to happen and things will move on but don't sit their all pious and self righteous saying welcome it and call the event to unfold a good thing because it's not. What happens after is the good thing but not what happens on the way their.
Besides you never know who of your friends and family members may get left behind to go through the bad half of the apocalypse and would you still feel it's a good thing to know what their going to go through while your all nice a comfy up their riding the worst of it out in comfort?
Some things to think about the next time you feel something like this is a good thing to be welcomed or whether it's a necessary evil and hardship for man to go through and suffer in order to get to the good that comes after.
And maybe while your up their on that cloud with God and Jesus with everybody else you could feel a bit of humanity while you watch all the souls suffering and being tortured and kill in gruesome horrible ways and at least shed a tear for them.
Maybe after it's over you could tell me if you still think that part was a good thing and should be welcomed because I would really like to know why you could still think that about all of that.
Sorry to be gruff and that but im a little sick of people calling themselves good Christians and then saying we should welcome it without even seeming to think about what is truly going to happen and how horrible it will be for so many (and that will almost certainly include children as well) and say it's a good thing.
I personally just can't see it that way nor would I ever want to. I don't fear it though I do fear what will happen to the many and so I don't welcome it I rather except it as inevitable but that part isn't welcomed at least not by me.
I just don't see how good Christians could, I couldn't see Jesus welcoming it either but that's just me I guess.
Nah leave em be it's a good thing.
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understhand this: if the owner of the house had knwon at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept wach and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Jesus
Jesus said he will come when we don't expect him He also said when asked by the apostles when the end of the world would come that "Noone knows not the Angles in heaven nor the son of god himself only the father knows that".
So basicly the end of the world will come when we don't expect it or aren't predicting it which christians and doom sayers have been doing for the last 2000 years and counting. Thus ensuring the end of the world will not come for sometime to come yet as long as people keep expecting it to come.
It was also said the end would come at a time when belief in god was at it lowest and man has turned his back from god which isn't now. The fact that roughly 90% of the world calls themselves christian or jewish or even muslim and believe in god means that belief in god is in fact at it's highest higher in fact than it has been at any other period.
Also going by the prophecy of the popes the next standing pope (or is it the one after him) is supposed to be the last pope and will feed his flock on many tribulations. I forget who it was that made the predictions of all the popes from begining to the end but so far his discriptions of the popes in order has been right on.
So the belief of christians about revelations and their getting twitchy and freaky every 1000 years or so should be seen as a good thing a positive thing that they are helping through their fear of the end of days to keep it from happening if it's going to happen at least it wont at thoughs times because it's expected to. It maybe crap but it keeps them occupied mostly except for the odd occation they take to elect damm fools to office, And they've seen jesus and mary on plenty of other things besides french toast like underpasses and in windows and on walls etc it doesn't take much for them to see some passed on religious figure in something somewere.
Besides why would you want to be the last pope to preside over the end of the church anyway? It would be more of a black mark on your name and position if the prophecy did happen come to pass.
Just some thoughts
One flaw in your idea though.
Most good god fearing christians want to bring about revelation or the rapture.
Why?
Because they belive that they will be raptured away from earth to heaven and be with god and jesus before all the bad stuff goes down and the end comes. So they would be happy that the end times have arrived never mind the suffering on the human scale that is to follow.
One thing that gets me is how could good christians want to have such a thing happen any sooner than it has to given the suffering torture coruption of human souls and deaths that are to surely happen.
Just seems inhuman to me and they call themselves good christians? The mind boggles.
Hmm
:P
I found your pitch both inteligent and compelling and i wish to purchase your product and or service.
I want the option of having it implanted in my butt. That way the info would litteraly be comming out my A$$ :D
Otherwise i don't want it. On second thought i don't want it either way so forget it.
You don't need Asterisk you need to get into a relationship LOL.
Imagine that software limits imposed by hardware instead of software well who'd a thunk it.
Nah on second thought thats a bad idea why then everybody wouldn't go running out to buy new pc's to pump up the mighty intel machine. It could end up collapsing on us all!
Death carnage and cpu's scattered everywere it would just be a huge mess!
Better to keep the mighty intel running smoothly on the artificial limits and peoples misspent cash than face that future.
Ok i got my sarcasm out for the day im good now.
Ahh but methane cometh from pigshit!
/.'s hit rock bottom when were talking about shit, Real shit no less!
No shit were talking about shit!
Just what kind of shit is this anyway?
Man you know
Well i guess the shits really rolling now.
This shits gotta end someti....................