I wouldn't go taking the christian science monitor as gospel their not after they published flase reports from people who's info could easily have been checked and proven false. As i recall one some time ago.
No offence but i would like to see some other sources to back it up before i take it as the truth.
And thank god im not with the current crop a CEO! to model oneself after might as well thrown myself in the lake of fire before hand if I did start thinking like them.
No im sure their is some truth their somewhere in your post however your views are very messed up not the least in that you totally ignore like the dean seemed to the students on which the school much vaunted reputation is built off of let alone maintained.
Theirs many points to pick at here however ill just limit to one or two mainly becasue im picking the one biggest and an accompaning point.
The student shouldn't have to put up with or try to protect a schools ill deserved reputation.
The fact that while true a schools reputation is something they earn and should defend the fact also is that the schools reputation is earned and maintained by how well it's students are educated and if that school or teacher isn't properly educating it's students and it's school is ignoring or disregarding it's student criticisms of said teacher then it cannot expect it's students to not express their disdain of the teaching practices to other student's while true the venue the student choose was a rather public one his online blog the student could also have picked a much more public one like the newspaper or local news channel and one that the school would find themselves in just as big a hornets nest over it maybe more so as papers and news channels tend to dig deeper than a radio station or an online news service because they got more time and deeper pockets to do so with. Oddly enough if the dean had made no stink about it whatsoever it probably wouldn't have even made the radar of/. Nor would the student have gotten on the radio but as it was the dean not only dropped the ball in manure he then picked it up and happily smeared it all over the school besides by his making a big stink out of this. At any rate a schools reputation is built off of how it teaches and prepares its students and how successful they become and how many of it's students become such successes. If such a school no longer is worthy of that reputation which students pay good money to attend such school like Julliard and Harvard or even Yale the prices for thoughs with or without scholarships is much higher than other schools so if the teachers their aren't measuring up to the level the students expect or not measuring even close to what the students need or deserve and the school ignores this then the school does this at the peril of it's own reputation which as I said is built off of such students who go on to be successes. To expect the students to hush up its ill deserved or no longer deserved reputation is a huge disservice to future students of that or any other school they may choose or be considering attending. I know if I had a chance of attending Harvard or Yale with the costs and the prestige of either school I certainly would want to know if either was touting a reputation they didn't deserve.
Why should I spend my money or my valuable time and latch my future success to a school that didn't deserve the success I went on to become even if they taught me it was still my skills how I applied their knowledge or my disregard for their poor knowledge from teachers that shouldn't have been teaching anyway on my way to my success. Keep in mind that while ones choice of school is often touted as the reason behind their success it is often not the school but the person that made that success just look at Bill Gates college dropout and one of the most if not the richest men in the world and one of the greatest American success stories ever regardless of how he got their (Im no fan of Bill's trust me but despite that he is a success) he did it without any big prestigious school behind him. If he had graduated from college im sure they would want to trumpet up his success as being due in some small way (or not so small)from their teachers teaching skills so as to be able to enroll a more upper crust student body wanting to become like Bill which would enable the school to charge more for admissions. However if Bill felt his teachers didn't deserve any credit for his success
Actually i was surpised bill didn't already know the answer to that and that he had to ask which caused me to laugh relizing bill don't know some geek he is.
Yes the microsoft MCE adds only a couple more functions but it's the fact that the functions that are added IE TV Tuner in itself requires several more buttons for channel surfing as well as going directly to a certain channel which Apple just doesn't need for their system as theirs doesn't even have a tuner no channels to change so no need for the tuner buttons. It's also not a PVR so it doesn't need the record buttons for that as well as extra menu surfing buttons to navigate around a larger more complex guide and menu system. Right now all front row is is a media player setup for the G5's and nothing else. That may change once they start moving to TV set top box's as they have said they may do and then add tuner support and PVR functions as well as a larger more complex menus and guides they well certainly need more buttons to handle thoughs functions. At that point their remote will either become more like MS's MCE remote and others or it will be difficult for them to make it work without being harder on the consumer to use all the features of the system.
So if you ask me his answer to bill was spot on and much quicker less technically worded while saying the same thing to a guy that is obviously not up on the geek of HTPC's and their differences from a media devices for navigating and playing media on PC's or Mac's as the case maybe.
China didn't have even have a battle ship till they bought one from the former soviet union which they cruised up and down the cost of Taiwan in a big threatening display trying to force the people of Taiwan to vote in a pro communist leader who would hand Taiwan back to the Chinese mainland.
China's economic situation was pitiful up till the last 5 years when they started benefiting from the free trade deal and have since used much of that money to modernize china's infrastructure so they could bring their industry into the 21st century to comply with pollution standards as well as get up to the speed and efficiency of the west. So just how have they had money to borrow to the US when much of it has gone towards modernization of their own nation?
While true since then china's GOP has been growing in leaps and bounds since the deal they still have had to pour most of it back into their own country to bring their economy up to spec and to bring the rest of china into the game so they can make even more money off their new economic growth. I know this because I watched a show on the history channel just recently dealing with china's new economic boon and what it means for them moving into the later 21st century. Within 10 years they are expected to almost have double the GOP of the US but currently their GOP is roughly half that of the US and as I stated much of it is going towards modernizing china's current industry and expanding into the more rural and outlying parts of china so they can bring the rest of the nation into the economic picture. So while theirs no doubt china in the future will be a major force to be reckoned with and probably the new superpower of the 21st century supplanting the US, currently they still have much left to do and much more money to spend on themselves before they can afford to borrow anything like the kind of money the US likes to borrow. Their is also to take into account for how US citizens would react to finding out that they owe a communist country like china money because our leaders found it ethically ok to borrow from one.
I'd like to see some sources for that claim especially when it would be such a hotbed topic for American citizens that owing money to a communist state would generate.
Right and like the US and EU would stand idlely by while china shoots MS's employees.
Well I suppose they'd have to if the employees were Chinese citizens however if they were American or EU citizens then their would be no way either the US or EU would let it happen. At the very least it would spell an end to any trade free or otherwise with china which would put china back on the same path it was on before ole' Billy boy put his X on the free trade deal with them IE the same path that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union which if you ask me we should have left happen to begin with then china would have had to change it's government as well.
And we could have chalked one more up Democracy 2 Commie 0 instead now it's like we win one and then lie down in bed with the other which is just nasty no matter how cute she may look she still got the clap, and bird flu to.
We don't hate to be haters we hate to be lovers..... Err wait it's we love to be.... No that's not right either.......
Ok we hate cause we love MS so much we......... No i can't even say that without falling over laughing.
Ok! Ok.... whewh! We hate so MS will relize we want them to stop making us hate them so they can act more like the company we want to love.
In other words we want them to be ethical and moral and act on issues like this without thinking with their pocket book or with their bank accounts in mind when they should be thinking with some measure of a moral and ethical compase instead of with none whatso ever.
So we don't hate really we just want MS to use a different set of rules for dealing with these issues than it has up to this point. Something MS has never been good at doing BTW.
I forget about none of it they are all on my ka ka list!
Never use google search why should i support them.
Yahoo same don't use any of their services nor give them support.
Cisco i wouldn't deal with either so what's your point? We should be lambasting them here all at the same time instead of pouring it onto MS?
Then by all means let's.. OTOH the subject of the article of this thread was about MS so you can hardly blame us for concentrating on them now can you?
So why have they not obeyed the laws of the US and Europe then? It does business both here and in the EU but it has still had problems obeying the laws in both countries and has been sued and declared a monopoly in both countries, and lets not even mention Korea.
I find it very disturbing that MS can't seem to keep itself out of trouble elsewhere but can suddenly follow the laws of a communist nation like china that's what really disturbs me.
Problem is Microsoft has always had trouble obeying the laws and avoiding illegal practices in the US and Eruope so why now suddenly start being all law abidding in china?
It's like the pot thats calling the kettle... well you get the idea.
Drug you on the way up or on the way down or both one way or another you won't recall a thing. The in flight electronic jammer will take care of all camera's as well so no proof.
If all else fails they can claim it's just ice from the boosters or some other retarded thing of that sort that most people wouldn't belive if it came from anyone else other than the government but since it comes from them it's swallowed by all but the conspericy theorist's hook line and stinker as usual:D
What you mean the Elf finger found in keebler cookies story wasn't true? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40515 What about Bush Nominates First-Trimester Fetus To Supreme Court? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40512 Don't tell me that's not real either!!:P
Ok i can see how some people could belive that such storys are real....... No on second thought i won't:D
Sorry for a late reply i've been busy and haven't had time to check my email.
If you re-read my post you'll find im not arguing or speculating that violent video games make kids violent except maybe a few who are already mentaly unstable to begin with IE a future Bundy, Manson or the like type. My point was yes their are a few like them out their that might possibly be set off at an earlier time then they might have normaly playing such games but they could just as easily be set off by almost any other thing so blaming games for that is idiocy.
My further point was that cases like columbine were actually the fault of parents that have no common sense to speak of and really shouldn't have been allowed to raise children because they through their own poor parenting and not taking the time to properly raise their child and teach them right from wrong or even to take the time to show their kids that they matter etc.. are the reasons for cases like columbine as pointed out by the example of the mother who didn't even have the good sense to relize that she shouldn't have gone anywhere near the school so soon after her child went on a killing spree.
It's parents that don't take time to teach their kids the moral lessons that they should teach them and to spend time with them on a regular basis to give them a loving family that are whats creating the time bombs like columbine and later examples not the violent video games.
At any rate i guess i should have stated my position in my post a bit more clearly for thoughs that don't take the time to read and get some of my points, Like making parents take a common sense course over and over till they get it right or " Columbine etc. though is a result of the modern day video game era in the minds of the parents and politicians so to them it's the games fault, their what's damaging the minds of our poor impressionable youth and so they must be stopped for the sake of the children.
Think about the poor poor children my god won't somebody think abou...... * Aww To heck with that crap*"
I mean how much clearer did i have to spell it out that my point is it's not the games it's the parents who don't take time to properly raise and tech their kids and give them the attention they need that makes such kids that go out and do these things not the games.
One more thing your speaking to a guy who grew up on violent games i ate drank and slept games and i was playing some games that while they don't measure up to games today were still nonetheless not considered good wholesome family games and i haven't had an urge to go on any killing spree's ever.
And on that note i guess you pretty much didn't sum up my post with that fortune cookie though it does seem to apply to the political nonsense.
Yeah the problem though is the government does fill a void but not the right voids and then improperly and ends up making things worse rather than better.
When was the last time government stepped in to help the people and actually ended up helping instead of making things worse than they were before?
That and just look at the people we have entrusted to fix things for the incompetent parents who are to busy worrying about their high paying jobs, Tee Time, Manicure, parties for friends and business colleges to take an interest in their kids? Look at what self absorbed people like this have brought us in recent years for leaders a president with the mental state and temperament of a 12 year old of late who's answer to bumbling incompetence of government officials that couldn't handle a terrorist attack not because they didn't have the power or couldn't have known but because they couldn't be bothered to enforce the laws and use the powers they were given is to create a new government branch and give them new powers that take away even more of the rights given to we the people by the founding fathers just so they can do the same shoddy incompetent job as the other enforcement branches did pre 911. Can't even prepare or handle damage control in the wake of a hurricane never mind a terrorist attack. And yet were supposed to feel safer, I don't feel any safer anybody who does is plain deluded which was kind of the point Ben Franklin was trying to make when he said "thoughs who would trade liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security" we traded freedoms for a illusion of security post 911 with that laugh riot that has some nerve calling itself the patriot act. Theirs nothing patriotic about an act that strips away the freedoms fought for by our founding fathers, nothing patriotic about an act that seeks to do what one of our founding fathers specifically said not to do namely surrender our freedom for an illusion of security. And let's not even get started on the war on terra LOL.
And before that a president who's role models seems to have been Casanova and some chronic liar. Less time spent on this joke the better, Ill simply end it with these game names "Clinton F*self censored*er" And "Hail to the chief".
Before that was mister no new tax's and I can't keep that promise as well as not being able to finish a war properly so we don't have to keep wasting money trying to keep the unfit leader in his place for the next 12 years and then spend even more to remove him anyway and rebuild the country than if we had done it back then to begin with.
And before that it was mister im going to spend big bucks on pie in the sky military projects that put us trillions in dept and oh by the way I don't have a clue what my subordinates are doing in Iran or anywhere else.
Before that we had a peanut farmer for president who couldn't handle a laundry crisis let alone a hostage crisis and let's not get into his peanut embargo so he could increase the price of peanuts or his brother with that Billy beer. Wash rinse repeat then throw twice the dirt as before on for the next round.
Yes I know their are more presidents who were just as bad if not worse over the last 60 years since WWII presidents who have been so bad they make even Taft who didn't want to be president to begin with look good but for sake of time I focused on just these few.
So these are the people you want filling a void left by parents like previously mentioned? The same parents that are mostly responsible for incompetent presidents and senators and congressmen (who I wont even get into on their competence) like previously mentioned being elected to start with?
Im sorry but I think the further away our government as it stands is from things like this the less problems their will be for all involved.
And that's my 2 cents worth --- Adjusted for inflation.
Not that im against video games or for any of these stupid inane laws but this is not a simple answer so bear with me.
How many reported cases of kids killing other kids in schools happened before video games? How many kids showed up in schools with assault rifles and such mowing down other kids/teachers before same?
Yes kids have carried out violence against other kids before and their has been the occasional shooting by another kid but how often in schools? How often have mass numbers of kids/teachers been killed at one time by one or a couple kids who just went nuts in the past?
It maybe due to other factors like video games or more likely at least in my view parents these days not taking an active role in their kid's development really teaching them the things they should know. I still recall an article about one mother who just a few days after her kid had gone on such a killing spree with his friend in columbine went to a hair salon just down the street from the school and was heard by others while getting her hair done that she just couldn't understand how her kid could have done this. If it had been my kid I sure as heck wouldn't be seen anywhere near the school for a longtime to come but she went to a hair salon right down the street from the school right afterwards and she has the nerve to say she can't understand how her kid could do this? It's obvious from that how the kid could do it because she herself lacks any real common sense so how's she going to teach her kids to have any let alone right from wrong and what is and isn't acceptable even if she was to have tried to teach her kid these things.
That's part of the problem nowadays parents either don't try or don't know how or both and simply shove their kids in front of the boob tube and then give them game consoles to act as babysitters/teachers and then become shocked and mortified when some of them who inherited the lack of sense and lack of morals gene from their parents go out and kill others in a school. They then become shocked when it is blamed off on the games but then still go out and buy same type of games or worse for their kids to play. Then become even more horrified when they learn what's in them because they couldn't even take the time to find out for themselves first before giving them to their kids and this on top of not even looking at the ESRB rating (hello GTA san andreas had a mature rating IE not for kids before the hot coffee mod became known ) or even apparently learning what that is and what it means before they buy the game for the kid.
But for them looking for something other than their bad parenting to blame and the congressmen and senators looking for a pickup in voter support it's a win win to blame the games and game companies and complain that the games shouldn't be sold to kids. This even after parents buy the games for them because the kids themselves can't or aren't supposed to because of the mature rating. I mean hello it's got a mature rating for a reason to keep kids from getting the game to play it. But I guess many parents these days are just too distracted with their own selfish problems to know these things and can only figure out what an AO rating stands for throwing in a MA rating was just too much for them to handle.
Ok I may have went a little overboard their and yes im sure their are game stores that have sold MA games to kids but the point is their not supposed to and many don't so the only way that most kids get these games is by the parents and if the game store sells the MA game to kids when they shouldn't. So it's the stores fault or the parents in thoughs cases not the game maker or the game rating it was rated in most cases properly and in some that weren't were still rated outside of where these kids were supposed to be able to buy them and outside of were parents should have considered buying them for their kids.
Slashdot Mirror
Nobody can bottle the power of human stupidity! It's out their free in the world man and you're just going to have to deal with it!
:P
;)
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Seriously if you could that would be to much power in one place at one time, Could end the universe in the wink of an eye.
I wouldn't go taking the christian science monitor as gospel their not after they published flase reports from people who's info could easily have been checked and proven false. As i recall one some time ago.
No offence but i would like to see some other sources to back it up before i take it as the truth.
And thank god im not with the current crop a CEO! to model oneself after might as well thrown myself in the lake of fire before hand if I did start thinking like them.
No im sure their is some truth their somewhere in your post however your views are very messed up not the least in that you totally ignore like the dean seemed to the students on which the school much vaunted reputation is built off of let alone maintained.
/. Nor would the student have gotten on the radio but as it was the dean not only dropped the ball in manure he then picked it up and happily smeared it all over the school besides by his making a big stink out of this. At any rate a schools reputation is built off of how it teaches and prepares its students and how successful they become and how many of it's students become such successes. If such a school no longer is worthy of that reputation which students pay good money to attend such school like Julliard and Harvard or even Yale the prices for thoughs with or without scholarships is much higher than other schools so if the teachers their aren't measuring up to the level the students expect or not measuring even close to what the students need or deserve and the school ignores this then the school does this at the peril of it's own reputation which as I said is built off of such students who go on to be successes. To expect the students to hush up its ill deserved or no longer deserved reputation is a huge disservice to future students of that or any other school they may choose or be considering attending. I know if I had a chance of attending Harvard or Yale with the costs and the prestige of either school I certainly would want to know if either was touting a reputation they didn't deserve.
Theirs many points to pick at here however ill just limit to one or two mainly becasue im picking the one biggest and an accompaning point.
The student shouldn't have to put up with or try to protect a schools ill deserved reputation.
The fact that while true a schools reputation is something they earn and should defend the fact also is that the schools reputation is earned and maintained by how well it's students are educated and if that school or teacher isn't properly educating it's students and it's school is ignoring or disregarding it's student criticisms of said teacher then it cannot expect it's students to not express their disdain of the teaching practices to other student's while true the venue the student choose was a rather public one his online blog the student could also have picked a much more public one like the newspaper or local news channel and one that the school would find themselves in just as big a hornets nest over it maybe more so as papers and news channels tend to dig deeper than a radio station or an online news service because they got more time and deeper pockets to do so with. Oddly enough if the dean had made no stink about it whatsoever it probably wouldn't have even made the radar of
Why should I spend my money or my valuable time and latch my future success to a school that didn't deserve the success I went on to become even if they taught me it was still my skills how I applied their knowledge or my disregard for their poor knowledge from teachers that shouldn't have been teaching anyway on my way to my success. Keep in mind that while ones choice of school is often touted as the reason behind their success it is often not the school but the person that made that success just look at Bill Gates college dropout and one of the most if not the richest men in the world and one of the greatest American success stories ever regardless of how he got their (Im no fan of Bill's trust me but despite that he is a success) he did it without any big prestigious school behind him. If he had graduated from college im sure they would want to trumpet up his success as being due in some small way (or not so small)from their teachers teaching skills so as to be able to enroll a more upper crust student body wanting to become like Bill which would enable the school to charge more for admissions. However if Bill felt his teachers didn't deserve any credit for his success
You haven't heard about AMD plans for Quad core Athlons and Opterons then i take it.
Actually i was surpised bill didn't already know the answer to that and that he had to ask which caused me to laugh relizing bill don't know some geek he is.
Yes the microsoft MCE adds only a couple more functions but it's the fact that the functions that are added IE TV Tuner in itself requires several more buttons for channel surfing as well as going directly to a certain channel which Apple just doesn't need for their system as theirs doesn't even have a tuner no channels to change so no need for the tuner buttons. It's also not a PVR so it doesn't need the record buttons for that as well as extra menu surfing buttons to navigate around a larger more complex guide and menu system. Right now all front row is is a media player setup for the G5's and nothing else. That may change once they start moving to TV set top box's as they have said they may do and then add tuner support and PVR functions as well as a larger more complex menus and guides they well certainly need more buttons to handle thoughs functions. At that point their remote will either become more like MS's MCE remote and others or it will be difficult for them to make it work without being harder on the consumer to use all the features of the system.
So if you ask me his answer to bill was spot on and much quicker less technically worded while saying the same thing to a guy that is obviously not up on the geek of HTPC's and their differences from a media devices for navigating and playing media on PC's or Mac's as the case maybe.
True this is without a doubt the heftiest load of dung I have seen spewed out in one post on /. In quite a while.
Had to get the neck high wading boots out to get through that one.
Just what kind of junk you been smokin boy!
China didn't have even have a battle ship till they bought one from the former soviet union which they cruised up and down the cost of Taiwan in a big threatening display trying to force the people of Taiwan to vote in a pro communist leader who would hand Taiwan back to the Chinese mainland.
China's economic situation was pitiful up till the last 5 years when they started benefiting from the free trade deal and have since used much of that money to modernize china's infrastructure so they could bring their industry into the 21st century to comply with pollution standards as well as get up to the speed and efficiency of the west. So just how have they had money to borrow to the US when much of it has gone towards modernization of their own nation?
While true since then china's GOP has been growing in leaps and bounds since the deal they still have had to pour most of it back into their own country to bring their economy up to spec and to bring the rest of china into the game so they can make even more money off their new economic growth. I know this because I watched a show on the history channel just recently dealing with china's new economic boon and what it means for them moving into the later 21st century. Within 10 years they are expected to almost have double the GOP of the US but currently their GOP is roughly half that of the US and as I stated much of it is going towards modernizing china's current industry and expanding into the more rural and outlying parts of china so they can bring the rest of the nation into the economic picture. So while theirs no doubt china in the future will be a major force to be reckoned with and probably the new superpower of the 21st century supplanting the US, currently they still have much left to do and much more money to spend on themselves before they can afford to borrow anything like the kind of money the US likes to borrow. Their is also to take into account for how US citizens would react to finding out that they owe a communist country like china money because our leaders found it ethically ok to borrow from one.
I'd like to see some sources for that claim especially when it would be such a hotbed topic for American citizens that owing money to a communist state would generate.
Right and like the US and EU would stand idlely by while china shoots MS's employees.
Well I suppose they'd have to if the employees were Chinese citizens however if they were American or EU citizens then their would be no way either the US or EU would let it happen. At the very least it would spell an end to any trade free or otherwise with china which would put china back on the same path it was on before ole' Billy boy put his X on the free trade deal with them IE the same path that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union which if you ask me we should have left happen to begin with then china would have had to change it's government as well.
And we could have chalked one more up Democracy 2 Commie 0 instead now it's like we win one and then lie down in bed with the other which is just nasty no matter how cute she may look she still got the clap, and bird flu to.
We don't hate to be haters we hate to be lovers..... Err wait it's we love to be.... No that's not right either.......
Ok we hate cause we love MS so much we......... No i can't even say that without falling over laughing.
Ok! Ok.... whewh! We hate so MS will relize we want them to stop making us hate them so they can act more like the company we want to love.
In other words we want them to be ethical and moral and act on issues like this without thinking with their pocket book or with their bank accounts in mind when they should be thinking with some measure of a moral and ethical compase instead of with none whatso ever.
So we don't hate really we just want MS to use a different set of rules for dealing with these issues than it has up to this point. Something MS has never been good at doing BTW.
I forget about none of it they are all on my ka ka list!
Never use google search why should i support them.
Yahoo same don't use any of their services nor give them support.
Cisco i wouldn't deal with either so what's your point? We should be lambasting them here all at the same time instead of pouring it onto MS?
Then by all means let's.. OTOH the subject of the article of this thread was about MS so you can hardly blame us for concentrating on them now can you?
Right and you happen to have a very firm grasp on reality yourself their now don't you sparky!
:D
And it's not sheep it's sheeple geeettttt iiiiittttt rrrrriiiigghttttt Baaaaaa!
And that is even more disturbing than MS being able to follow the laws of a communist country when it can't for democratic one's.
So why have they not obeyed the laws of the US and Europe then? It does business both here and in the EU but it has still had problems obeying the laws in both countries and has been sued and declared a monopoly in both countries, and lets not even mention Korea.
I find it very disturbing that MS can't seem to keep itself out of trouble elsewhere but can suddenly follow the laws of a communist nation like china that's what really disturbs me.
Problem is Microsoft has always had trouble obeying the laws and avoiding illegal practices in the US and Eruope so why now suddenly start being all law abidding in china?
It's like the pot thats calling the kettle... well you get the idea.
Well odviously it's someone these folks wanna host....
:D
Perhaps a relative of Qbert? maybe his son....
qubit! The next generation
Oh Ye of little faith...
:D
Drug you on the way up or on the way down or both one way or another you won't recall a thing. The in flight electronic jammer will take care of all camera's as well so no proof.
If all else fails they can claim it's just ice from the boosters or some other retarded thing of that sort that most people wouldn't belive if it came from anyone else other than the government but since it comes from them it's swallowed by all but the conspericy theorist's hook line and stinker as usual
LOL this one should be mod'ed +3 insightfull and +4 informative :D
What you mean the Elf finger found in keebler cookies story wasn't true? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40515 What about Bush Nominates First-Trimester Fetus To Supreme Court? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40512 Don't tell me that's not real either!! :P
Ok i can see how some people could belive that such storys are real....... No on second thought i won't :D
Sorry for a late reply i've been busy and haven't had time to check my email.
If you re-read my post you'll find im not arguing or speculating that violent video games make kids violent except maybe a few who are already mentaly unstable to begin with IE a future Bundy, Manson or the like type. My point was yes their are a few like them out their that might possibly be set off at an earlier time then they might have normaly playing such games but they could just as easily be set off by almost any other thing so blaming games for that is idiocy.
My further point was that cases like columbine were actually the fault of parents that have no common sense to speak of and really shouldn't have been allowed to raise children because they through their own poor parenting and not taking the time to properly raise their child and teach them right from wrong or even to take the time to show their kids that they matter etc.. are the reasons for cases like columbine as pointed out by the example of the mother who didn't even have the good sense to relize that she shouldn't have gone anywhere near the school so soon after her child went on a killing spree.
It's parents that don't take time to teach their kids the moral lessons that they should teach them and to spend time with them on a regular basis to give them a loving family that are whats creating the time bombs like columbine and later examples not the violent video games.
At any rate i guess i should have stated my position in my post a bit more clearly for thoughs that don't take the time to read and get some of my points, Like making parents take a common sense course over and over till they get it right or " Columbine etc. though is a result of the modern day video game era in the minds of the parents and politicians so to them it's the games fault, their what's damaging the minds of our poor impressionable youth and so they must be stopped for the sake of the children.
Think about the poor poor children my god won't somebody think abou...... * Aww To heck with that crap*"
I mean how much clearer did i have to spell it out that my point is it's not the games it's the parents who don't take time to properly raise and tech their kids and give them the attention they need that makes such kids that go out and do these things not the games.
One more thing your speaking to a guy who grew up on violent games i ate drank and slept games and i was playing some games that while they don't measure up to games today were still nonetheless not considered good wholesome family games and i haven't had an urge to go on any killing spree's ever.
And on that note i guess you pretty much didn't sum up my post with that fortune cookie though it does seem to apply to the political nonsense.
Thirst and hunger for one!
:P
Nothing like the undieing thirst or hunger no matter how much you cyber drink or eat it wont go away.
Hey speaking as a guy from the 70's keep your cyberspace out of my private and intimate life *$#@&!
:P
Don't make me google to your neighborhood and whack you one ARGH!!!
300 year lifespan sounds good until you find out the side effect is sterility eep! Ok ok just wait till i reproduce a little doc..
Yeah the problem though is the government does fill a void but not the right voids and then improperly and ends up making things worse rather than better.
When was the last time government stepped in to help the people and actually ended up helping instead of making things worse than they were before?
That and just look at the people we have entrusted to fix things for the incompetent parents who are to busy worrying about their high paying jobs, Tee Time, Manicure, parties for friends and business colleges to take an interest in their kids? Look at what self absorbed people like this have brought us in recent years for leaders a president with the mental state and temperament of a 12 year old of late who's answer to bumbling incompetence of government officials that couldn't handle a terrorist attack not because they didn't have the power or couldn't have known but because they couldn't be bothered to enforce the laws and use the powers they were given is to create a new government branch and give them new powers that take away even more of the rights given to we the people by the founding fathers just so they can do the same shoddy incompetent job as the other enforcement branches did pre 911. Can't even prepare or handle damage control in the wake of a hurricane never mind a terrorist attack. And yet were supposed to feel safer, I don't feel any safer anybody who does is plain deluded which was kind of the point Ben Franklin was trying to make when he said "thoughs who would trade liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security" we traded freedoms for a illusion of security post 911 with that laugh riot that has some nerve calling itself the patriot act. Theirs nothing patriotic about an act that strips away the freedoms fought for by our founding fathers, nothing patriotic about an act that seeks to do what one of our founding fathers specifically said not to do namely surrender our freedom for an illusion of security. And let's not even get started on the war on terra LOL.
And before that a president who's role models seems to have been Casanova and some chronic liar. Less time spent on this joke the better, Ill simply end it with these game names "Clinton F*self censored*er" And "Hail to the chief".
Before that was mister no new tax's and I can't keep that promise as well as not being able to finish a war properly so we don't have to keep wasting money trying to keep the unfit leader in his place for the next 12 years and then spend even more to remove him anyway and rebuild the country than if we had done it back then to begin with.
And before that it was mister im going to spend big bucks on pie in the sky military projects that put us trillions in dept and oh by the way I don't have a clue what my subordinates are doing in Iran or anywhere else.
Before that we had a peanut farmer for president who couldn't handle a laundry crisis let alone a hostage crisis and let's not get into his peanut embargo so he could increase the price of peanuts or his brother with that Billy beer. Wash rinse repeat then throw twice the dirt as before on for the next round.
Yes I know their are more presidents who were just as bad if not worse over the last 60 years since WWII presidents who have been so bad they make even Taft who didn't want to be president to begin with look good but for sake of time I focused on just these few.
So these are the people you want filling a void left by parents like previously mentioned? The same parents that are mostly responsible for incompetent presidents and senators and congressmen (who I wont even get into on their competence) like previously mentioned being elected to start with?
Im sorry but I think the further away our government as it stands is from things like this the less problems their will be for all involved.
And that's my 2 cents worth --- Adjusted for inflation.
Not that im against video games or for any of these stupid inane laws but this is not a simple answer so bear with me.
How many reported cases of kids killing other kids in schools happened before video games? How many kids showed up in schools with assault rifles and such mowing down other kids/teachers before same?
Yes kids have carried out violence against other kids before and their has been the occasional shooting by another kid but how often in schools? How often have mass numbers of kids/teachers been killed at one time by one or a couple kids who just went nuts in the past?
It maybe due to other factors like video games or more likely at least in my view parents these days not taking an active role in their kid's development really teaching them the things they should know. I still recall an article about one mother who just a few days after her kid had gone on such a killing spree with his friend in columbine went to a hair salon just down the street from the school and was heard by others while getting her hair done that she just couldn't understand how her kid could have done this. If it had been my kid I sure as heck wouldn't be seen anywhere near the school for a longtime to come but she went to a hair salon right down the street from the school right afterwards and she has the nerve to say she can't understand how her kid could do this? It's obvious from that how the kid could do it because she herself lacks any real common sense so how's she going to teach her kids to have any let alone right from wrong and what is and isn't acceptable even if she was to have tried to teach her kid these things.
That's part of the problem nowadays parents either don't try or don't know how or both and simply shove their kids in front of the boob tube and then give them game consoles to act as babysitters/teachers and then become shocked and mortified when some of them who inherited the lack of sense and lack of morals gene from their parents go out and kill others in a school. They then become shocked when it is blamed off on the games but then still go out and buy same type of games or worse for their kids to play. Then become even more horrified when they learn what's in them because they couldn't even take the time to find out for themselves first before giving them to their kids and this on top of not even looking at the ESRB rating (hello GTA san andreas had a mature rating IE not for kids before the hot coffee mod became known ) or even apparently learning what that is and what it means before they buy the game for the kid.
But for them looking for something other than their bad parenting to blame and the congressmen and senators looking for a pickup in voter support it's a win win to blame the games and game companies and complain that the games shouldn't be sold to kids. This even after parents buy the games for them because the kids themselves can't or aren't supposed to because of the mature rating. I mean hello it's got a mature rating for a reason to keep kids from getting the game to play it. But I guess many parents these days are just too distracted with their own selfish problems to know these things and can only figure out what an AO rating stands for throwing in a MA rating was just too much for them to handle.
Ok I may have went a little overboard their and yes im sure their are game stores that have sold MA games to kids but the point is their not supposed to and many don't so the only way that most kids get these games is by the parents and if the game store sells the MA game to kids when they shouldn't. So it's the stores fault or the parents in thoughs cases not the game maker or the game rating it was rated in most cases properly and in some that weren't were still rated outside of where these kids were supposed to be able to buy them and outside of were parents should have considered buying them for their kids.
So do games cause kids to kill
Sure then a couple of canadian comedians get arrested killed and satan walks the earth!
:P
Nice move