Tell that to the people who demand to be compensated for their positive externalities such as people who own patents, and people who pay (via tax/etc) for public services. None of these people like your argument because they bare all the cost, while others benefit from it.
Also, people who demand to be compensated for others negative externalities such as people who live near a polluting factory, and people who want to protect the environment. None of these people like your argument because if the costs and benefits aren't shared "equitably" between the 2 parties, then they suddenly lose a lot of their ability to impose the costs they calculate, on others.
This is the problem with externalities and the law. I'm sure that I could find many instances which would show you're not logically consistent, and are only separating this from other instances because you personally feel/perceive that this is different.
"Graphing calculators okay for the rare student who has one."
How poor is your Community College? I don't know a single person in my maths/stats/etc, classes who doesn't have a graphics calculator. You can get graphing calculators pretty cheap these days, with the more expensive ones like the nSpire CAS, still not being that expensive.
This is my experience also, but with Asian students, since they are the largest cohesive group at my University. In fact, in one statistics lecture, the Asian students all had the answers to the quizzes (which were graded but didn't count for much), either way, when the statistics lecturer saw the numbers, he didn't think the distribution looked right, so he changed up the questions, and what do you know, the next few quizzes those students got scores of 0. We found it hilarious.
Now for the tragic part. These students are just shooting themselves in the foot, they just scrape through with exams, and bluff their way through University. This happens on such a large scale, that these groups are now known for it in the work force. To the point that employers see foreign sounding names, and they immediately discount what they have on their resume. This is so prolific that I know Asian, Indian, and African students, who have spent a lot of money, and can not get a job. Some of them really don't know their stuff, but some are just unlucky to being lumped in with that group. I have a first name which most think is foreign, and I didn't realize that this was a detriment until an Indian mate of mine, who grew up here, told me about this. I've since hung out with some friends who interview people at companies I've worked for, and they've told me flat out that it works majorly against you. So these days I leave my first name off of resumes, just give them my middle and last name, and my response rate has dramatically improved.
Little do they know, that while this helps them get through at the moment, it has resulted in what they're paying for, being almost useless. However, after hanging out with a lot of these guys, I now know that regardless of their ability to pull a good job, what the piece of paper that they paid so much for was really about, was getting citizenship. Which in Australia, it still does. This was explained to me by a Vietnamese guy. His family was paying for him to come here, and he just needed to pass, so he could get citizenship, setup a life, and bring the rest of them over here, when possible. In that regards, perhaps this cheating works for them.
The results were via questionnaire, my guess is that people who believe they are more healthy, would underestimate the amount they sit, and people who don't, might overestimate it.
50% to 73% of the people who answered these questionnaires were "Retired/homemaker" with the mean age being 63.6 (standard deviation, 6) for me, and 61.9 (standard deviation, 6.5) for women. This was when they enrolled in the study in 1992, making them on average 77.6 for men, and 75.9 for women. For comparison look at the life expectancy data for people born in those years, this puts them firmly in the timespan where they were expected to die.
Looking at the mean ages, there is a correlation between hours sat per day, and mean age. So those who are apart of the group who sits more, are also those who are oldest.
On the mens side 52% to 57% are former smokers. On the womens side 48% to 60% never smoked, which might be correct for that generation but I am uncertain. Though they have corrected for this, I wonder how they corrected, and if that correction is legitimate.
There appears to be an abnormally large amount of people who have NEVER consumed alcohol for women that's 44% to 47%, and for me that's 31% to 32%. This seems amazing of this sample, since I don't drink, and everyone points out how weird it is.
This sample group was obtained from participants in the American Cancer Society's CPS-II Nutrition Cohort, as such the sample might over represent people worried about cancer and similar illnesses because they have higher instances of it in their family. They had people report their personal history to control for some of these things, but not their family history.
Additionally I would really need to get into their statistical method more, and get their original data, as it looks like there could be many more problems.
I would take this study, with a fuck load of salt.
Thank you, I had this exact same problem. I wasn't diagnosed until my 20's. I now excel in University, but I couldn't even learn my times tables, read books, or similar. Now that I have treatment, I'm able to address those problems, and live a better life.
Thanks for this post. I've had problems myself, and had family with some very serious problems, where they couldn't survive without this sort of help, and I'm sick of hearing the pseudo-intellectual rhetoric that anti-medical/psychiatric people spew. It seems they think everything can be cured with a new diet, some exercise, and a good smack. Luckily they haven't had to seriously deal with any of these problems, else they wouldn't be speaking such shit.
Yeah, while I'm sure you're well intentioned, please realize that these are extremely complex problems with no easy, simple, or single solution.
I am ADD and it has greatly effected my life. I was extremely active when young, but that didn't help much. I was also quite smart, such that they never thought I was ADD. I wasn't seen as having ADD because some things I instinctually pick up some ideas quickly, I would hyper focus on some hard nerdy topics I was really into. However give me any book, no matter how refreshed, no matter how much motivation, and it's unlikely I could read it. Additionally, that which I did read, would be more like I see words, but I don't read, or think about it. My mind is off in space.
It wasn't until I was 23, having some other problems, and described my life to someone else, that they went "you're text book ADD".
Since then, I no longer skate through exams either cheating, or bluffing. I now actually study, and my quality of life has improved immensely. I no longer walk around with a sort of head fog/super distractiability, I've been able to go back to Uni, and now instead of achieving low level passes, I achieve extremely high level passes.
Either way, without this support, I'd be stuffed. If I had of had this support as a child, who knows?
Mention that in any country, and you'd suddenly see the racism and nationalist pride come out. Though in some countries, they'd at least try to veil it in an economic or political argument.
It would be good if citizenship was completely open and easy for people, we'd see a lot more pressure on governments to change. As it currently stands though (I'm someone who wants to emigrate) it's quite hard to move to most countries, especially if you're not "skilled".
I am Australian, and I am so disappointed that we are now in a list of censorship states, with China and Iran.
The Labor party is really fucking up.
I just read that they plan to try and regulate (through forced classification) app store games/etc. Article here: Plans to classify phone game apps
And just for clarification, anything that isn't "classified" will be banned by the filter. Classification costs between 470 AUD and 2,040 AUD which is (417 USD and 1,813 USD at today's prices).
This was supposed to be the party that "got" technology, but has turned out to be the party who doesn't get it at all. Though some people said these policies are political in nature (eg, used to broker preference deals with other parties, such as the religion based parties), and don't reflect their true polices... like that means anything to us who get subjected to it.
Are you seriously saying you wouldn't jump at the chance to minimize the damage of documents which are going to be leaked, given the opportunity to do so?
This is like someone who has obtained the documents to steal your identity, coming to you and going, "Look, I'm going to publish these, if you want to redact some sections which reduces the impact of them, I'm more than happy". Then you turning around and saying "Fuck off".
You wouldn't jump at the opportunity to limit damage? No, you'd pout and winge like a child? Perhaps stomp your feet? That is the logical choice now, isn't it.
Luckily in this case, as has been mentioned previously, they WERE sufficiently redacted.
To tie this into my example, after you saying "Fuck off" the person who obtained your documents then goes "Fine, well I'll redact them to the best of my ability, for you then, at my own expense".
Not quite. Usually developers can get their hands on parts of it, but usually... they don't want to. Every now and then this comes up in the city near where I live.
Additionally, if you mean green as in grass and trees. Often these places are pretty full of graves, which aren't particularly green. In fact, I live in the hills (not in the city), and there's trees and grass everywhere, except the grave yards. Because they are packed in there, with only room to walk between each. Also gets heaps of foot traffic.
I wanna be turned into oil, like the dinosaurs. Well, maybe an accelerated process.
They can market me and others as "Oil Green". Not because it's good for the environment, but because...... OIL GREEN IS PEOPLE!
My mum has given me all these instructions, pretty basic shit. Either way, every time she brings it up, I tell her I'm going to have her stuffed and mounted like a grizzly bear snarling and clawing. She will be on display just inside the entrance of the place, so that when you walk in, BAM! I think it will work well. Just need to find an adventurous taxidermist.
Quite frankly, if you think bickering over money spent here, and money spent there, is more important than free speech (or immigration in the case of boat people), then you've got your priorities all fucked up.
If Internet Censorship is your main concern this coming election, the following guide has been created online via BelowTheLine.org.au and using the different parties websites and statements on policies to order them.
While they are ordered in preference of internet censorship, the top 2 are ordered based on their ability to influence. The rest are ordered within their preference (against/unknown/for) relatively randomly, except with the Australian Labour Party being given a dead last position, to reduce their influence.
This ballot will result in your vote being against internet censorship, as much as possible.
I don't know why you're modded funny, I've known many people who have applied for these jobs, who are smart people, driven, but are always denied these positions because of one of the things you've mentioned, but I'd add a 1:
5 drug tests
I've known a fair few people who have gone through everything, but failed a drug test. Often they admin they have done, or do drugs, though they usually add the caveat they would stop for the job. It can be as little as weed, and they're still out.
I got really bored a while ago, and downloaded a pile of the episodes. A lot as you say are just rented. I believe you can tell which ones aren't, because the house doesn't seem particularly "them", they don't feel as comfortable in it, and so forth. With some of them, it looks really obvious. But there are some that you can see, this is their house (often these are the ones with giant murals of themselves on the walls).
However, though they may live in it, that doesn't mean that this house isn't part of the loan, and that they don't have to recoup this house expense... which they in all likelihood never will.
Phft, you think that's bad. I've worked as a Systems Analyst for a small international company for ages, which operates extensively throughout asia. My experience has been even the large companies over there have little to no business processes, little care about relationships, almost no investment in IT, and seem more like some small time back alley company, despite operating out of huge buildings. The worst parts are where, companies which were our suppliers, were having domain/mail/etc issues, and despite me being some random guy from another business from another country on the phone, I have remoted in reconfigured their routers, made major changes to their mail servers, fixed conflicts with their domain. It's insane. The guys doing this work had no idea what they were doing, and so when I call and they see I know what to do, they give me access to everything. Even if the system they're using is obscure, and I need to find the manual, and partially translate it. This has happened way too many times for us in Hong Kong, South Korea, etc.
Good point. Well I'm running iOS4 jailbroken, and SBSettings has a panel which allows you to change those settings.
Swipe your finger across the top of the screen. Press more. Press Extra's and Options. Turn Numeric Wi-Fi and Numeric GSM on.
Now you've got it showing the dB in place of bars, and once Apple releases the update for iOS4 to make this measurement accurate, I'll have a better idea of signal strength.
It couldn't be that everyone had over leveraged themselves... if that were the case, something like the Glass-Steagall Act would have keep the markets free from similar crashes. Oh, that's right... it did for nearly 70 years until it was repealed in 1999.
Perhaps you should ask why it was created, and what happened before then. Overall, what you're talking about is a far more complex system than just "Make a law and it's fixed".
Then why are all states at the top of GDP per capita Keynesian or sitting on top of valuable natural resources?
I'm an economist, and you're totally misrepresenting us here. Someone who is not trying to push their view point would tell you that regulation is more of an ideological view point, where economists will answer based on how practical they think it is, and which system they think will be more efficient. Any argument concerning this is fraught with all sorts of problems, which makes an totally rational and objective view point, impossible.
What I hate is that they maintain that view of big businesses being:
lazy cheap stupid lumbering
While also maintaining the view that they are:
extremely driven to be evil willing to spend inordinate amounts of money to achieve their ruthless goals genius criminals, who can develop extremely complex methods to achieve their goals agile and precise, such that the person/people at the top, precisely control the company
These 2 views are in complete contradiction, you can't logically maintain both.
Similarly, you see the conspiracy theorist nut jobs who do the same thing with Government.
Yes, because the arts and writing are so lucrative, and they are all about the tangible (income) benefits.
Writing books has a somewhat nobel image about it, that most writers love, more than any money they make from the books. This is apart of their willingness to supply.
If you think writers, actors, musicians and generally ANYONE in the entertainment industry, does it because they are all about the money, then you don't know ANYONE in their industry, because on the whole, nobody makes money in this industry.
So, now that we've gotten this profitability as a motivator delusion out of the way, the other side of this argument is that, people DO pay for things they value. They aren't paying because you're forcing them to pay you, they are paying because they value your work, and what they get from your work, whether those benefits are tangible or intangible.
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Tell that to the people who demand to be compensated for their positive externalities such as people who own patents, and people who pay (via tax/etc) for public services. None of these people like your argument because they bare all the cost, while others benefit from it.
Also, people who demand to be compensated for others negative externalities such as people who live near a polluting factory, and people who want to protect the environment. None of these people like your argument because if the costs and benefits aren't shared "equitably" between the 2 parties, then they suddenly lose a lot of their ability to impose the costs they calculate, on others.
This is the problem with externalities and the law. I'm sure that I could find many instances which would show you're not logically consistent, and are only separating this from other instances because you personally feel/perceive that this is different.
"Graphing calculators okay for the rare student who has one."
How poor is your Community College? I don't know a single person in my maths/stats/etc, classes who doesn't have a graphics calculator. You can get graphing calculators pretty cheap these days, with the more expensive ones like the nSpire CAS, still not being that expensive.
This is my experience also, but with Asian students, since they are the largest cohesive group at my University. In fact, in one statistics lecture, the Asian students all had the answers to the quizzes (which were graded but didn't count for much), either way, when the statistics lecturer saw the numbers, he didn't think the distribution looked right, so he changed up the questions, and what do you know, the next few quizzes those students got scores of 0. We found it hilarious.
Now for the tragic part. These students are just shooting themselves in the foot, they just scrape through with exams, and bluff their way through University. This happens on such a large scale, that these groups are now known for it in the work force. To the point that employers see foreign sounding names, and they immediately discount what they have on their resume. This is so prolific that I know Asian, Indian, and African students, who have spent a lot of money, and can not get a job. Some of them really don't know their stuff, but some are just unlucky to being lumped in with that group. I have a first name which most think is foreign, and I didn't realize that this was a detriment until an Indian mate of mine, who grew up here, told me about this. I've since hung out with some friends who interview people at companies I've worked for, and they've told me flat out that it works majorly against you. So these days I leave my first name off of resumes, just give them my middle and last name, and my response rate has dramatically improved.
Little do they know, that while this helps them get through at the moment, it has resulted in what they're paying for, being almost useless. However, after hanging out with a lot of these guys, I now know that regardless of their ability to pull a good job, what the piece of paper that they paid so much for was really about, was getting citizenship. Which in Australia, it still does. This was explained to me by a Vietnamese guy. His family was paying for him to come here, and he just needed to pass, so he could get citizenship, setup a life, and bring the rest of them over here, when possible. In that regards, perhaps this cheating works for them.
STAT!
Here is the original report: Leisure Time Spent Sitting in Relation to Total Mortality in a Prospective Cohort of US Adults
Such large sample sizes scare me. When you've got 100,000 data points, almost anything seems statistically significant.
Having a look at the abstract of the page "Leisure Time Spent Sitting in Relation to Total Mortality in a Prospective Cohort of US Adults", I am not sure about some of this... After reading that, I got more interested in it and just got the original article, though that doesn't help much, it's missing a lot of summary data, none the less...
Additionally I would really need to get into their statistical method more, and get their original data, as it looks like there could be many more problems.
I would take this study, with a fuck load of salt.
Dear dfetter,
Can you please link me to a torrent of John Woo two fisting some girl called Dove in slow motion?
That's my kind porn!
Thank you, I had this exact same problem. I wasn't diagnosed until my 20's. I now excel in University, but I couldn't even learn my times tables, read books, or similar. Now that I have treatment, I'm able to address those problems, and live a better life.
Thanks for this post. I've had problems myself, and had family with some very serious problems, where they couldn't survive without this sort of help, and I'm sick of hearing the pseudo-intellectual rhetoric that anti-medical/psychiatric people spew. It seems they think everything can be cured with a new diet, some exercise, and a good smack. Luckily they haven't had to seriously deal with any of these problems, else they wouldn't be speaking such shit.
Yeah, while I'm sure you're well intentioned, please realize that these are extremely complex problems with no easy, simple, or single solution.
I am ADD and it has greatly effected my life. I was extremely active when young, but that didn't help much. I was also quite smart, such that they never thought I was ADD. I wasn't seen as having ADD because some things I instinctually pick up some ideas quickly, I would hyper focus on some hard nerdy topics I was really into. However give me any book, no matter how refreshed, no matter how much motivation, and it's unlikely I could read it. Additionally, that which I did read, would be more like I see words, but I don't read, or think about it. My mind is off in space.
It wasn't until I was 23, having some other problems, and described my life to someone else, that they went "you're text book ADD".
Since then, I no longer skate through exams either cheating, or bluffing. I now actually study, and my quality of life has improved immensely. I no longer walk around with a sort of head fog/super distractiability, I've been able to go back to Uni, and now instead of achieving low level passes, I achieve extremely high level passes.
Either way, without this support, I'd be stuffed. If I had of had this support as a child, who knows?
Mention that in any country, and you'd suddenly see the racism and nationalist pride come out. Though in some countries, they'd at least try to veil it in an economic or political argument.
It would be good if citizenship was completely open and easy for people, we'd see a lot more pressure on governments to change. As it currently stands though (I'm someone who wants to emigrate) it's quite hard to move to most countries, especially if you're not "skilled".
*sigh*
I am Australian, and I am so disappointed that we are now in a list of censorship states, with China and Iran.
The Labor party is really fucking up.
I just read that they plan to try and regulate (through forced classification) app store games/etc. Article here: Plans to classify phone game apps
And just for clarification, anything that isn't "classified" will be banned by the filter. Classification costs between 470 AUD and 2,040 AUD which is (417 USD and 1,813 USD at today's prices).
This was supposed to be the party that "got" technology, but has turned out to be the party who doesn't get it at all. Though some people said these policies are political in nature (eg, used to broker preference deals with other parties, such as the religion based parties), and don't reflect their true polices... like that means anything to us who get subjected to it.
Let me rephrase your question.
Are you seriously saying you wouldn't jump at the chance to minimize the damage of documents which are going to be leaked, given the opportunity to do so?
This is like someone who has obtained the documents to steal your identity, coming to you and going, "Look, I'm going to publish these, if you want to redact some sections which reduces the impact of them, I'm more than happy". Then you turning around and saying "Fuck off".
You wouldn't jump at the opportunity to limit damage? No, you'd pout and winge like a child? Perhaps stomp your feet? That is the logical choice now, isn't it.
Luckily in this case, as has been mentioned previously, they WERE sufficiently redacted.
To tie this into my example, after you saying "Fuck off" the person who obtained your documents then goes "Fine, well I'll redact them to the best of my ability, for you then, at my own expense".
Not quite. Usually developers can get their hands on parts of it, but usually... they don't want to. Every now and then this comes up in the city near where I live.
Additionally, if you mean green as in grass and trees. Often these places are pretty full of graves, which aren't particularly green. In fact, I live in the hills (not in the city), and there's trees and grass everywhere, except the grave yards. Because they are packed in there, with only room to walk between each. Also gets heaps of foot traffic.
I wanna be turned into oil, like the dinosaurs. Well, maybe an accelerated process.
They can market me and others as "Oil Green". Not because it's good for the environment, but because... ... OIL GREEN IS PEOPLE!
My mum has given me all these instructions, pretty basic shit. Either way, every time she brings it up, I tell her I'm going to have her stuffed and mounted like a grizzly bear snarling and clawing. She will be on display just inside the entrance of the place, so that when you walk in, BAM! I think it will work well. Just need to find an adventurous taxidermist.
You think civil liberties are sad?
I like how you reworded internet censorship, into "blocking a few http websites". As if it was a minor thing. You must be new around here.
If you really want to know about censorship, then all you need to do is Google a bit about it.
Here's the latest article I'm reading about it...
Classification and Internet Censorship as an Election Issue
Quite frankly, if you think bickering over money spent here, and money spent there, is more important than free speech (or immigration in the case of boat people), then you've got your priorities all fucked up.
Below The Line - How To Vote In South Australia
If Internet Censorship is your main concern this coming election, the following guide has been created online via BelowTheLine.org.au and using the different parties websites and statements on policies to order them.
While they are ordered in preference of internet censorship, the top 2 are ordered based on their ability to influence. The rest are ordered within their preference (against/unknown/for) relatively randomly, except with the Australian Labour Party being given a dead last position, to reduce their influence.
This ballot will result in your vote being against internet censorship, as much as possible.
If you want to change some of the ordering around a bit, feel free to edit the ticket here...
Edit Below The Line - How To Vote In South Australia
Just make sure you keep them in their general positions.
Some information on what positions each party is taking can be found here, though it's good to go over their websites, news articles, and similar...
Australian Political Parties who oppose and support Internet Censorship
I don't know why you're modded funny, I've known many people who have applied for these jobs, who are smart people, driven, but are always denied these positions because of one of the things you've mentioned, but I'd add a 1:
5 drug tests
I've known a fair few people who have gone through everything, but failed a drug test. Often they admin they have done, or do drugs, though they usually add the caveat they would stop for the job. It can be as little as weed, and they're still out.
I got really bored a while ago, and downloaded a pile of the episodes. A lot as you say are just rented. I believe you can tell which ones aren't, because the house doesn't seem particularly "them", they don't feel as comfortable in it, and so forth. With some of them, it looks really obvious. But there are some that you can see, this is their house (often these are the ones with giant murals of themselves on the walls).
However, though they may live in it, that doesn't mean that this house isn't part of the loan, and that they don't have to recoup this house expense... which they in all likelihood never will.
Phft, you think that's bad. I've worked as a Systems Analyst for a small international company for ages, which operates extensively throughout asia. My experience has been even the large companies over there have little to no business processes, little care about relationships, almost no investment in IT, and seem more like some small time back alley company, despite operating out of huge buildings. The worst parts are where, companies which were our suppliers, were having domain/mail/etc issues, and despite me being some random guy from another business from another country on the phone, I have remoted in reconfigured their routers, made major changes to their mail servers, fixed conflicts with their domain. It's insane. The guys doing this work had no idea what they were doing, and so when I call and they see I know what to do, they give me access to everything. Even if the system they're using is obscure, and I need to find the manual, and partially translate it. This has happened way too many times for us in Hong Kong, South Korea, etc.
No. It's dragons.
Good point. Well I'm running iOS4 jailbroken, and SBSettings has a panel which allows you to change those settings.
Swipe your finger across the top of the screen.
Press more.
Press Extra's and Options.
Turn Numeric Wi-Fi and Numeric GSM on.
Now you've got it showing the dB in place of bars, and once Apple releases the update for iOS4 to make this measurement accurate, I'll have a better idea of signal strength.
Perhaps you should ask why it was created, and what happened before then. Overall, what you're talking about is a far more complex system than just "Make a law and it's fixed".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product#Limitations_of_GDP_to_judge_the_health_of_an_economy
I'm an economist, and you're totally misrepresenting us here. Someone who is not trying to push their view point would tell you that regulation is more of an ideological view point, where economists will answer based on how practical they think it is, and which system they think will be more efficient. Any argument concerning this is fraught with all sorts of problems, which makes an totally rational and objective view point, impossible.
What I hate is that they maintain that view of big businesses being:
While also maintaining the view that they are:
These 2 views are in complete contradiction, you can't logically maintain both.
Similarly, you see the conspiracy theorist nut jobs who do the same thing with Government.
Yes, because the arts and writing are so lucrative, and they are all about the tangible (income) benefits.
Writing books has a somewhat nobel image about it, that most writers love, more than any money they make from the books. This is apart of their willingness to supply.
If you think writers, actors, musicians and generally ANYONE in the entertainment industry, does it because they are all about the money, then you don't know ANYONE in their industry, because on the whole, nobody makes money in this industry.
So, now that we've gotten this profitability as a motivator delusion out of the way, the other side of this argument is that, people DO pay for things they value. They aren't paying because you're forcing them to pay you, they are paying because they value your work, and what they get from your work, whether those benefits are tangible or intangible.