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Man Patents Self-Burying Coffin

disco_tracy writes "A California inventor has filed a patent for a coffin that screws into the ground vertically. The reason? It greatly reduces excavation labor and burial costs, decreases land use, and opens up more space for burials in unused areas of a cemetery. Writer Clark Boyd also lists 5 other unconventional burial options, including lye, ecopods, GPS devices that track bodies buried without headstones, cryogenics and — my favorite — getting buried in the sky."

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  1. Spinning in your grave. Hur hur. by ModernGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Spinning in your grave. Hur hur.

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  2. Already been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    In a Ray Bradbury story called 'The Coffin.' Although Bradbury's was fictional, it had the benefit of being a lot cooler, with little arms that dug the hole and a portable record player that did a eulogy. It even covered itself in earth once it was done.

    1. Re:Already been done by Cryolithic · · Score: 1

      This was exactly what I thought when I saw self burying coffin :)

    2. Re:Already been done by Custard+Horse · · Score: 2, Funny

      In the same way as the term 'self-basting turkey' which conjures up a much more exiting image that in reality

  3. You're not only dead by bugs2squash · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're screwed

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    1. Re:You're not only dead by StikyPad · · Score: 1, Informative

      Wow... It's as if you read the title of TFA.

    2. Re:You're not only dead by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's also pretty sad, because this is otherwise a pretty neat idea to reduce the plot sizes in cemeteries. But people are going to think the tagline, and go for some large conventional stretch coffin instead.

      It's like Chevy would never be able to break into manufacturing light aircraft, just because of their silly "Like a Rock" tagline.

      Oh well, it's just a matter of time before we have little "condo-crypt highrises" for the deceased like they do in South America. Or maybe the small little crematorium condos. I actually kinda like the little spirit houses the Asians have to keep the ghosts from haunting their real homes, but I think they still keep the ashes somewhere else.

    3. Re:You're not only dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop talking shit.

    4. Re:You're not only dead by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

      Well I hardly think that's likely.

  4. And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Puts someone else out of work while increasing cost to the family

  5. Ooooookay by SiaFhir · · Score: 1

    That's just screwed up. Bet this guy's dying to sue anyone who implements these devices without his permission...

    1. Re:Ooooookay by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      "Bet this guy's dying to sue anyone who implements these devices without his permission..."

      Honestly I don't see this going anywhere, with the patents and stuff this will probably cost more than a simple casket that any company can produce without a licensing fee. I can't imagine any family choosing this, if they were willing to screw grandpa into the ground and have him rest vertically they'd probably be just as inclined to choose cremation first.

      Only people I could imagine opting for this is the US Govt to bury soldiers, but I'd imagine there'd be enough outrage to put an end to that.

      We've had backhoes forever, if a cemetery wanted to bury people vertically they could have been doing that for the past 50+ yrs but obviously there's not much of a market because I've never heard of a cemetery that buried people vertically... actually I take that back, Upright Burials has been offering vertical burials since Dec 2009, but judging by their News Archive and Media page not much has been going on.

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    2. Re:Ooooookay by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine any family choosing this, if they were willing to screw grandpa into the ground and have him rest vertically they'd probably be just as inclined to choose cremation first.

      Paupers cemeteries would probably be interested, if the price was right, and they didn't have rocky soil.

      I suspect the previous problem was getting the head of the coffin 6' under. On a regular 8' coffin you'd need a hole 14' deep - that's pier-setting equipment, not the auger on the PTO of a tractor.

      Still, over the course of thousands of burials, perhaps it would pay for itself. Most funerals I've been to lately don't even lower the coffin into the grave anymore (I found that emotionally disappointing, frankly).

      Overall, I'd be more concerned with the lower surface area of the dirt over the buoyant coffin and the lower weight of that dirt. It's got to be 5:1 or worse. Re-burying can't be cheap.

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    3. Re:Ooooookay by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Come to think of it, with a plug-type burial, a 'top-kill' of 12 bags of cement should be easy enough. No need to even mix - pour in the fast-set in a 4' sonotube and be happy if it's set up in a month's time.

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    4. Re:Ooooookay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you, some sort of funeral expert?

    5. Re:Ooooookay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just screwed up. Bet this guy's dying to screw anyone who implements these devices without his permission...

  6. how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / power l by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / power lines?

  7. Filed... in 2006 by Theaetetus · · Score: 2, Informative

    "A California inventor has filed a patent...

    Note to Submitter and Editor - you don't "file a patent" in this country, you file a patent application, which was done four years ago. The patent has now been granted, so you could say "A California inventor has been awarded a patent..."

    With how often patents come up on Slashdot, we should at least make an effort to get the basics correct.

    1. Re:Filed... in 2006 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      You must be the kind of guy who goes to the bathroom just to say it smells like shit in here.

    2. Re:Filed... in 2006 by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      With how often patents come up on Slashdot, we should at least make an effort to get the basics correct.

      Whoooaaaa, hold on a second there. Next thing you're going to suggest the submitters and editors refrain from spinning perfectly innocent articles into inflammatory summaries. Where will it stop?

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  8. mix the ash with concrete by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    make a structure OUT OF dead people, not over them. not necessarily mausoleums and cenotaphs, but houses for the living too, or town squares: you become, literally, part of the community you helped to build/ that you loved

    ok, it's a little creepy

    "dad, where's grandpa?"

    "in the third load bearing column by the kitchen"

    at the very least, it would be a good backstory for a horror movie, or ghostbusters iii

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    1. Re:mix the ash with concrete by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People have been making ossuaries for hundreds of years. Your idea is probably less creepy.

    2. Re:mix the ash with concrete by timeOday · · Score: 1
      I'm planning to have my ashes scattered in an alpine forest and be recycled into a pine tree - no cement required.

      Surely that's better than being a mouldering corpse for hundreds of years.

    3. Re:mix the ash with concrete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a horror movie I watched where the architect of a building put live victims in hollow wall spaces then filles them with concrete. Part of his belief that human suffering added to the building strength. Creepy.

    4. Re:mix the ash with concrete by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      I saw one of these in Rome, and it was breathtaking. It was such an excellent thing to see that I didn't find it creepy, but then I have a really thick skin and a hungry eye for anything weird.

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    5. Re:mix the ash with concrete by definate · · Score: 1

      I wanna be turned into oil, like the dinosaurs. Well, maybe an accelerated process.

      They can market me and others as "Oil Green". Not because it's good for the environment, but because... ... OIL GREEN IS PEOPLE!

      My mum has given me all these instructions, pretty basic shit. Either way, every time she brings it up, I tell her I'm going to have her stuffed and mounted like a grizzly bear snarling and clawing. She will be on display just inside the entrance of the place, so that when you walk in, BAM! I think it will work well. Just need to find an adventurous taxidermist.

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    6. Re:mix the ash with concrete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno. Just plant an oak tree over me when I die.

  9. Yes, it did issue. by Macblaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't know why the Discovery article links to the published application, but here is a link to the actual issued patent: 7,631,404

  10. Appropriate by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

    There couldn't be a better audience for this product announcement than slashdot. This is perfect for all of us who will die alone in our basements, with nobody to attend the funeral. Just flick a switch and it's done.

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    1. Re:Appropriate by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but who the hell wants to be buried and visited like some sort of shrine for the next decade or so? Cremate me please, it's the only way to go......

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    2. Re:Appropriate by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Cremate me please, it's the only way to go......

      No problem, are you free around 3pm? I'll meet you at Bob's BBQ Shack.

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    3. Re:Appropriate by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 1

      Just flick a switch and it's done

      Not exactly...

      According to TFA, "Self-Burying" isn't an accurate description. It's slightly (100%) wrong.

      Per TFA:

      The idea is that coffin would then be torqued into the ground, either by machine or even by hand.

      Basically, your body is installed into this big ass screw. A cap is fixed to the top and it's *ready* to be screwed into the ground. This coffin can bury itself just like my lunch can eat itself.

      On the topic of lunch... After looking at the patent drawings, it occurs to me that this device needs to be fairly robust to withstand the pressures of being screwed into the ground. I didn't see any drainage holes in the drawings. I'm guessing that shortly after burial, the deceased decays into a chunky soup at the tip of the screw...er...coffin.

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    4. Re:Appropriate by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

      We, as geeks, are often interested in unconventional ways of doing things, and what to do with our bodies after death is probably no exception. I'm sure many of us here have a desire for something other than the traditional funeral/casket/burial/headstone approach. I for one have always been intrigued by the idea of a Viking Funeral. Put my body on a wooden boat, send it out to sea, then shoot a FLAMING ARROW at it and watch it burn. Hell yeah. Though, I highly doubt I'll actually ever put that in my will.

      Of course, there's also a lot of ultra-practicalists here who would say "who cares?".

    5. Re:Appropriate by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Basically, your body is installed into this big ass screw. A cap is fixed to the top and it's *ready* to be screwed into the ground. This coffin can bury itself just like my lunch can eat itself.

      Oh well, at least the nerdly occupant has one final, desperate, chance to get screwed.

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    6. Re:Appropriate by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I have little doubt that somebody here is going to end up combining the Klingon Opera thing with their funeral.

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    7. Re:Appropriate by cp.tar · · Score: 1

      It’s one of the ways I wouldn’t mind being disposed of when the time comes.

      Sure, it’s not that I have a real interest in it either way, but it’d be cool.

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    8. Re:Appropriate by vandelais · · Score: 1

      or get shot out of a cannon like Hunter S Thompson

      Ka...
      .
      wait for it...
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      boom

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    9. Re:Appropriate by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      Nah, I want an open air Roman style cremation. Think the County Health Department will give me any fits with that? ;)

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    10. Re:Appropriate by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Nah, I want an open air Roman style cremation. Think the County Health Department will give me any fits with that?

      You're dead and burned up, what are they going to do?

      (just set enough aside to make it worth sombody's while)

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    11. Re:Appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but if you are cremated it isn't possible to come back as a zombie.

      zombies always have work in the movie industry! and you might even get to eat some tasty braaaaaaiiiiinzzz

    12. Re:Appropriate by jimmydigital · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you people but I plan to ascend... and you can keep the clothes. Failing that.. give me a proper Jedi funeral so I can come back and haunt your ass... giving advice you don't really need.

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    13. Re:Appropriate by maxume · · Score: 1

      Without the sacrificial maiden, it hardly seems worth it.

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    14. Re:Appropriate by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know someone whom has in their will to have a viking funeral. Payout of the estate is contingent on this. Also in the estate is an escrow fund to pay the fines for and purchase the following:
      desecration of a corpse
      open air cremation of a corpse
      lighting a boat on fire in a waterway
      the boat
      the fuel to place in the boat
      the cost of a accurate archer

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    15. Re:Appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically, your body is installed into this big ass screw. A cap is fixed to the top and it's *ready* to be screwed into the ground. This coffin can bury itself just like my lunch can eat itself.

      Oh well, at least the nerdly occupant has one final, desperate, chance to get screwed.

      Yeah, but the two choices given in the article are being screwed by machine or by hand. I think this will be the final nail in the coffin, if you will.

    16. Re:Appropriate by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Well, getting nailed in the coffin wouldn't be so bad.

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    17. Re:Appropriate by operagost · · Score: 1

      Save a few bucks by replacing the accurate archer with "archer who sucks, but is persistent and has lots of arrows". Oh, and fire insurance.

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    18. Re:Appropriate by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      "I know someone whom has in their will to have a viking funeral. Payout of the estate is contingent on this."

      If there's no reasonable (legal) way for the beneficiaries to comply, the clause can be voided by a probate judge.

      It's not much different from a contract with an invalid clause. It makes a given clause invalid but does release any party from the contract.

      In most places you can't obligate someone to commit a crime, certainly not on the basis that you have pre-paid their fines.

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    19. Re:Appropriate by RKThoadan · · Score: 1

      When it comes to geeky options I believe donating your brain to the Harvard Brain Tissue Center is tops. http://www.brainbank.mclean.org/ Just generally donating your body for research is an excellent option as well. For an entertaining look at what might happen there I recommend the book Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers. http://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Curious-Lives-Human-Cadavers/dp/0393324826/

    20. Re:Appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A dead-man switch?

    21. Re:Appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There couldn't be a better audience for this product announcement than slashdot. This is perfect for all of us who will die alone in our basements, with nobody to attend the funeral. Just flick a switch and it's done.

      I always thought it would be nice if someone were going to commit suicide, they'd be polite enough not to leave their bloated carcass lying around for someone else to pick up. Although there's something appropriate about using a self-screwing coffin for this purpose, they could also consider a quick dip in an Alligator filled swamp.

    22. Re:Appropriate by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      While that is true, it still makes for an awesome will. And fact of the matter is we plan on carrying it out if at all possible, not only because that's what he wants, but because of the (awesomeness is really the wrong word, as is novelty but I don't know the right word...) of it.
      -nB

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    23. Re:Appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean in our grandparents' basements?

    24. Re:Appropriate by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      >While that is true, it still makes for an awesome will.

      No argument there, and I would personally see it carried out if it fell to me. I'd be careful putting stuff like that in an actual legal will, because probate process is ugly and in the best cases can destroy family relationships that had been healthy... for generations... I've seen it.

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    25. Re:Appropriate by Nyder · · Score: 1

      There couldn't be a better audience for this product announcement than slashdot. This is perfect for all of us who will die alone in our basements, with nobody to attend the funeral. Just flick a switch and it's done.

      Um, who's going to flip the switch? alone in the basement remember? Your dead?

      Now a deadman's switch, okay, that will work.

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    26. Re:Appropriate by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      he has no kids.
      sad, in a way, but makes the family situation a little easier. Us friends likely won't see a dime of the money anyway, always could use some, but don't really need it. What counts is he is our friend, and we want to see his wishes borne out.

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  11. Re:how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / powe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    typically they don't put graveyards in areas that are covered in pipes and power lines...

  12. and Ray Bradbury's story comes true by james_shoemaker · · Score: 2, Informative

    I immediately thought of the "Braling Economy Casket" from the Ray Bradbury story.

    James

  13. if you want something done right do it yourself! by computerchimp · · Score: 1

    Independent minded?
    Can't rely on others for important things?

    Then do it yourself. It is the only way to make sure it gets done right.

  14. My Favorite by b4upoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why go to all that negative bother? A good old fashioned gator pit suits me. Not only is burial not even an issue but the hides from the happy, and well fed gators make lovely luggage. The rest of the gators harvested could be used as hog feed.

    1. Re: My Favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why go to all that negative bother? A good old fashioned gator pit suits me. Not only is burial not even an issue but the hides from the happy, and well fed gators make lovely luggage. The rest of the gators harvested could be used as hog feed.

      And well-fed hogs make lovely bacon! I'm in!

    2. Re: My Favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Airlines will still charge for bags made of corpse eating alligator hide.

  15. Great... by ITBurnout · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now maybe if the civilized human race were finally able to get past the rather strange tradition of putting their loved ones' preserved physical remains into (usually rather expensive) boxes in the ground, in order to last as long as possible, filling up acres and acres of land with these, increasing on a daily basis with every new death -- then that might be some REAL progress. At some point this whole "burying" thing needs to go. It is not an infinitely sustainable model to follow.

    1. Re:Great... by Cathoderoytube · · Score: 1

      Trouble is cemeteries are green space in cities that developers can't get their hands on.

      Gotta take what you can get these days.

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    2. Re:Great... by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      It is not an infinitely sustainable model to follow.

      Neither is the universe if we want to get completely nihilistic about it.

      Filling up cemeteries isn't a problem, and when it is, we can easily fix it with a few backhoes (which you would need anyway if you wanted to build there) and a few changed laws.

      You really think Cemeteries are what's holding back 'REAL progress'? And all this time it was not being able to develop on that land that was holding back 'REAL progress'.

      You know, what's funny is that if our ancestors didn't take some efforts to bury/preserve their dead, we would know a great deal less about them.

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    3. Re:Great... by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      Birthrates are going down over much of the world. This problem will become less acute, not more.

    4. Re:Great... by iamhassi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "At some point this whole "burying" thing needs to go. It is not an infinitely sustainable model to follow."

      According to the Cremation Association, burying is already dying out, with over 1/3rd of deaths currently resulting in cremations and they're projecting over 50% by 2025.

      However I see nothing wrong with burying the dead, it's deeply rooted in many cultures and religions and to say someone is wrong for burying their dead is equal to telling them their culture is wrong.

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    5. Re:Great... by ITBurnout · · Score: 1

      Neither is the universe if we want to get completely nihilistic about it.
      That is a poor counterargument, as methods such as cremation are (while not infinite, I suppose), still far more sustainable than burial.
      Filling up cemeteries isn't a problem, and when it is, we can easily fix it with a few backhoes (which you would need anyway if you wanted to build there) and a few changed laws.
      You really think Cemeteries are what's holding back 'REAL progress'? And all this time it was not being able to develop on that land that was holding back 'REAL progress'.
      I'm not even talking about development on that land necessarily. It's just that using that land for burial seems a poor use of it. Even keeping that land as natural open space would be a better use in my opinion.
      You know, what's funny is that if our ancestors didn't take some efforts to bury/preserve their dead, we would know a great deal less about them.
      Yeah, but that was then -- when written and digital methods of information preservation were not available or used -- and this is now, when there are numerous methods of knowing a great deal about anyone, without having to have their remains in a box in the ground.
      The deceased person is not there anyway. That person can be honored anywhere. It doesn't have to be at the site where his/her Earthly body is now in a box in the ground.

    6. Re:Great... by ITBurnout · · Score: 1

      Agreed; I am not about to tell anyone that they are "wrong" for burying their dead. If their choice is burial, that is their choice. I am just saying that as a whole, I think that better solutions exist and that burial has always seemed a bit absurd to me. But maybe that's just me.

    7. Re:Great... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have no problem telling someone their culture is wrong if it is wasteful and unsustainable. We're all the same species, created equal and therefore qualified to comment on one another.

    8. Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Certain aspects of certain cultures are, lacking better words, wrong; slavery, arranged marriage, blood sacrifice to name a few. Burial may not be one of them, but it is, as GP points out, not infinitely scalable. There is a limited amount of space on our planet. Heck, there's even a limited amount of coal atoms from which to produce new people. At some point, you'll simply have to accept that the bodies of dead need to be recycled.
      Whether this scaling problem will actually cause real problems before we infect other planets (and thus buy ourselves more space and, potentially, coal atoms) remains to be seen.

    9. Re:Great... by bluie- · · Score: 1

      I agree that it's a completely ridiculous tradition. In fact, what I'd prefer to happen for myself is to be composted. It's the natural order of things. Your body is built with nutrients from the earth, and that's what you should return to. Aside from being unsustainable, traditional burial puts a lot of chemicals into the ground. http://www.squidoo.com/composting-the-dead

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    10. Re:Great... by metamatic · · Score: 1

      At some point this whole "burying" thing needs to go. It is not an infinitely sustainable model to follow.

      That's the great thing about this invention. It gives ageing Republicans a way to screw the planet after they're dead too.

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    11. Re:Great... by Flea+of+Pain · · Score: 1

      That person can be honored anywhere. It doesn't have to be at the site where his/her Earthly body is now in a box in the ground.

      Facebook to the rescue!

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    12. Re:Great... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      I don't know where you get the idea that corpses and burial apparatus in modern burials don't decay. They may not decay fast enough for you (what's your hurry?) but they do decay. The whole thing decays. The outer cement cask decays once it loses its watertight seal. The steel casket oxidizes. As for embalming chemicals, it's not much and well within the carrying capacity of that much soil.

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    13. Re:Great... by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      I have no problem telling someone their culture is wrong if I don't personally approve of it, or believe in it, or think it's wrong

      There, fixed that for you.

    14. Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Green space for goth and emo kids maybe...

      Unless you are suggesting all green spaces are equivalent. "Hey kids lets go play frisbee in the cemetery."

    15. Re:Great... by chameleon3 · · Score: 1

      I have no problem telling someone their culture is wrong if it is wasteful and unsustainable. We're all the same species, created equal and therefore qualified to comment on one another.

      I have no problem telling someone their culture is wrong if I don't personally approve of it, or believe in it, or think it's wrong There, fixed that for you.

      Only one mod point left, otherwise I'd mod both of you up. I just wish more moderators did the same...

    16. Re:Great... by definate · · Score: 1

      Not quite. Usually developers can get their hands on parts of it, but usually... they don't want to. Every now and then this comes up in the city near where I live.

      Additionally, if you mean green as in grass and trees. Often these places are pretty full of graves, which aren't particularly green. In fact, I live in the hills (not in the city), and there's trees and grass everywhere, except the grave yards. Because they are packed in there, with only room to walk between each. Also gets heaps of foot traffic.

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    17. Re:Great... by WiPEOUT · · Score: 1

      Aquamation may supercede cremation due to releasing less greenhouse gases and otherwise wasting less of the body's nutrients.

    18. Re:Great... by Zenaku · · Score: 1

      A decline in the birthrate does not mean a decline in population. It means our still rapidly growing population is growing slightly less rapidly than it was before.

      Hence the rate at which we produce new corpses to bury will continue to accelerate.

      Even if our living population were shrinking instead of growing, our deceased population would still continue to grow -- until such time as our living population reaches zero.

      So no, the problem will not become less acute in the future.

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    19. Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't think your relatives each deserves 20 square feet of real estate, in perpetuity?

      Cemeteries would make nice parks.

    20. Re:Great... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      I tend to agree that it is dying out, these were old rituals and not well thought out...especially with the population we have now!
      If a burial ground is sacred because it has remains of people on them, then why not cremate them all and assign them all their own lot 1x1 with a small headstone, as a replacement for that big package you bought way back when...and then people can visit INSIDE a building out of the rain, and elements that erode those headstones etc...less vandalism too!

      Anyways, i never understood this concept, although I am sort of catholic. I tend to know many beliefs just do not work for today's world and growing demands, we have to adapt, and maybe virtual cemeteries are better when you want to go see a loved ones passing or some reminiscing, you could visit their website, and have some video footage etc...much better then old fashion headstone being your focal point for hours on end , in the rain none the less

    21. Re:Great... by NoseyNick · · Score: 1

      I wonder... what's the carbon footprint of sending someone up the chimney?

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  16. Obilg Simpsons by seven+of+five · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such do-it-yourself videos as "Dig Your Own Grave - and Save"

  17. Not my choice for spending eternity by ClintBartonWannabe · · Score: 1

    "Dead on my feet"

  18. not sure which is worse by Midnight's+Shadow · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't help but be reminded of when my niece (who was 3) used my grandfather's homemade wooden urn as a stool so she could reach the sink to wash her hands. At least my grandfather was being useful.

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    1. Re:not sure which is worse by kungfugleek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Reminds me of my aunt who took her cousin's ashes across the country (US) to be buried in her home town. She kept the ashes in the glove compartment of her car. And forgot about them. Until a year later when she was planning her next trip out west she suddenly remembered her promise, and the ashes that were still in the glove compartment. So she rushed out to the cemetery (or wherever) with a video camera and quick held a funeral with her brothers and sisters so she would have evidence that she did, indeed, bury the ashes. Then she quick packed the video and headed out on her trip to meet the very family that had made the request to begin with. Now the only question I have is, was the video date-stamped, and did anyone notice? I don't think I will ever know.

    2. Re:not sure which is worse by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      I have a couple of old tombstones stacked up to make a nice set of stairs leading up to our garden.

      One of the perks of being a cemetery caretaker (former)

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    3. Re:not sure which is worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When I die, I just want them to plant me somewhere warm. And then when pretty women walk over my grave I would grab their ankles, like in that movie."
      American Gods by Neil Gaiman

    4. Re:not sure which is worse by Vegemeister · · Score: 1

      That sounds like a Morrowind quest.

    5. Re:not sure which is worse by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      >One of the perks of being
      >a cemetery caretaker >(former)

      You got fired for stealing tombstones? (j/k)

      I had some paving stones that were "outtakes" from a gravestone cutter near Austin Texas. One of them was lovely, with colorful hot air baloons on it. There must have been a quality control problem because it wasn't completed. They sold these by the pound and it was a lot cheaper than regular quarried granite. I'd be surprised if the new owner moved those stones or even would recognize what they are :-)

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    6. Re:not sure which is worse by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      You got fired for stealing tombstones? (j/k)

      I had some paving stones that were "outtakes" from a gravestone cutter near Austin Texas. One of them was lovely, with colorful hot air baloons on it. There must have been a quality control problem because it wasn't completed. They sold these by the pound and it was a lot cheaper than regular quarried granite. I'd be surprised if the new owner moved those stones or even would recognize what they are :-)

      Every now and then, a gravestone gets chipped, or breaks, or replaced. Pretty much the same as your 'flawed' markers from the cutter.

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  19. Not sustainable... by maillemaker · · Score: 1

    While I agree with the absurdities of burials, it has been working for tens of thousands of years with little trouble.

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    1. Re:Not sustainable... by ITBurnout · · Score: 2, Informative

      While I agree with the absurdities of burials, it has been working for tens of thousands of years with little trouble
      No it hasn't, really -- not in the way we are doing it now. For most of those tens of thousands of years (maybe with the exception of Egyptian pharaohs and selected others), the remains were not embalmed -- and even if they were embalmed, certainly not with the level of technology now used. And the caskets were degradable, not the fancy things we use today that are designed to last and last.

    2. Re:Not sustainable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modern human remains are much less preserved than egyptian pharaoes. The embalming process is only meant to keep the body together long enough for the funeral; after a few years in the ground, you've got a skeleton regardless.

      Caskets are either wood or metal. If metal becomes valuable enough, it's not like we don't know where it is; grave robbers will recover it.

    3. Re:Not sustainable... by ITBurnout · · Score: 0

      Modern human remains are much less preserved than egyptian pharaoes
      Correct. Which is why I said ...with the exception of...

  20. Maybe this is the solution for the social networks by manybit · · Score: 0

    Facebook and Twitter should automatically send this to the home of their dead users and then -maybe- people would stop complaining that the social networks aren't doing enough on death? But I guess people would just complain when they get a coffin a few years too late, so how about a coffin on sign-up? "Sign up today and get this brand new self-burying coffin!"

  21. Re:how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / powe by hamburger+lady · · Score: 1

    unless it's an ancient indian burial ground.

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  22. Hmm by paragon1 · · Score: 0

    Rather gives new meaning the the phrases "You're digging your own grave" and "Oh, go screw yourself" doesn't it?

  23. Re:how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / powe by Smauler · · Score: 1

    It'd be a lot more fun if they did... imagine the hilarity that would ensue when the recently deceased bursts out of their coffin after hitting a high voltage line.

  24. Mafia movies by tchi.keufte · · Score: 1

    Imagine this in a somewhat futuristic mafia movie, in a carefully planned gangland killing scene...

  25. Prior art by IBM (Hitachi) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's Get Perpendicular(TM), but with dead people:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPvD0Z9kz8

    And if you think the screwing up part is new, think again:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26jsDf7TlE

  26. Re:how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / powe by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

    It's OK, the occupant won't care.

  27. Screw that by aplusjimages · · Score: 1

    I'm space bound. I want my body shot in to space.

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    1. Re:Screw that by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      ditto.
      I want to be preserved, in an airtight casket, with medical texts etc. then sent into deep space ala voyager.

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  28. To be crushed into a diamond... by kungfugleek · · Score: 1

    That's how I want to be disposed of.

    1. Re:To be crushed into a diamond... by cp.tar · · Score: 1

      Imagine, if you will, a great-granddaughter with a diamond ring or necklace who, upon someone’s expressed admiration, says “oh, yes, it’s a memento from my great-grandfather.”

      Then imagine the expression of the inquirer upon explanation that the diamonds themselves are bits of the great-grandfather. Priceless.

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    2. Re:To be crushed into a diamond... by smaddox · · Score: 1

      I never understood how you can know they aren't just taking the ashes, throwing them in the trash, and giving you an overpriced diamond in return.

    3. Re:To be crushed into a diamond... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you look at their website (who am I kidding) you'll see that natural colored diamonds are very rare and therefore worth several orders of magnitude more than what LifeGem charges.

    4. Re:To be crushed into a diamond... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      meh, either way it is the symbolism that really counts.

  29. Similar Results by morari · · Score: 1

    It greatly reduce excavation labor and burial costs, decreases land use, and opens up more space for burials in unused areas of a cemetery.

    Cremation does the same thing. So does a burlap sack and a roadside ditch. Seriously people, you're dead. Get over it.

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    1. Re:Similar Results by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      You're wrong about what happens when you die. It's not an eternity of nothingness.

      When you die you're going to go to
                                              your favorite place in the whole
                                              world. And you're going to be with
                                              all of the people you've ever loved
                                              and who have ever loved you. And
                                              you're going to be young again, and
                                              you'll be able to run through the
                                              fields and dance and jump, and
                                              there will be no sadness, no pain,
                                              just love and laughing and
                                              happiness. There will be ponies
                                              made of gold, and everyone will
                                              live in giant mansions, and
                                              everything will smell like cookies.
                                              And it will last for an eternity,
                                              Grandma. An eternity.

  30. Screwdrivers by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    This means that the cemetery security guards now have to keep on alert for shady characters with really large screwdrivers.

  31. It's an evil conspiracy! by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    These coffins are actually big, evil drilling machines designed to penetrate the walls of Zion, allowing swarms upon swarms of robotic killers loose on what remains of the human race!

  32. hmmm by Syberz · · Score: 1

    I'm not too sure if this is practical though.

    Think about it, you would need quite a bit of force or leverage to screw that thing in. Having a huge, dirty, bright yellow backhoe driving in granddad while spewing diesel smoke and making lots of noise doesn't quite feel the same as the coffin gently descending in its hole with a discrete pulley system with soft music playing in the background.

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    1. Re:hmmm by compro01 · · Score: 1

      You could always have the pallbearers do double duty.

      Though I suspect this is more intended for places like Japan, where cemetery space is becoming a problem.

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    2. Re:hmmm by azmodean+1 · · Score: 1

      Not really, cremation is the traditional method of corpse disposal in Japan. This would be a step back for them.

    3. Re:hmmm by Barny · · Score: 1

      Bah, think bigger, fire them from low orbit, you could spin them up in space, have some kind of guidance system on them...

      "Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to witness the internment of a" THUNK!...

      Then one Veloci-Coffin employee says to another, "uh, I think you need to aim about 3 feet further away from the pastor next time Mike"

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  33. EOL by polyomninym · · Score: 1

    Move along, this product is already at end of life.

  34. My current preference: by Jaqenn · · Score: 1

    I keep telling my wife that I want to be cremated, then have the remains pressed into an artificial diamond, then make the diamond into a piece of jewelry or furniture.

    She prefers traditional burial. :)

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    1. Re:My current preference: by Jaqenn · · Score: 1

      Forgot to add: after a huge percentage of me is taken by people waiting for organ/tissue transplant.

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    2. Re:My current preference: by wodon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then the diamond is used in a large laser device?

      And then the laser is used by your children to hold the city for ransom?

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  35. Broadband growth in the U.S. is Slowing by blair1q · · Score: 1

    There's an important story to be covered and we get ... this?

    Seriously, mods. Do away with voting on the firehose, or at least override it when a story is clearly off-topic and puerile. Leave this crap for Fark.

  36. That sounds like something out of a moive by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    That sounds like something out of a moive

    1. Re:That sounds like something out of a moive by operagost · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think that's how they got that coffin to pop out of the kitchen floor in "Poltergeist".

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  37. Man Patents Self by need4mospd · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else read the title as "Man Patents Self"?

  38. Why? by sorak · · Score: 1

    Why do this? Seriously? If you're not into traditional funerals, why not just be cremated and save the land for someone living? It seems like this is a series of inventive ways of mangling an unnecessary tradition. Is there someone out there saying "I want to be buried the traditional way, but inside some morbid transformer that can drill me into my final resting place"?

    1. Re:Why? by Monchanger · · Score: 1

      If you're not into traditional funerals, why not just be cremated and save the land for someone living?

      It depends on what you consider 'traditional': You might still follow the religious tradition requiring burial (or prohibiting cremation or other body disposal methods) but acknowledge that the traditional horizontal plot may be less socially-considerate than a vertical grave.

  39. How deep can it go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drill, baby, drill?

  40. Good tie-in with previous post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... about Facebook, Myspace, etc... dealing with dead people. (http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/08/12/143223/Can-Twitter-and-Facebook-Deal-With-Their-Dead) They should offer a package deal.

  41. Hey, it's PMR! by macraig · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of perpendicular recording but for meatspace. Cool! When do we get the option to screw them in three deep?

  42. Or you could become a diamond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article lists several great alternatives to the traditional burial, but let us not forget LifeGem

  43. GPS? by SpinningCone · · Score: 1

    did the GPS coffin thing make no sense to anyone else? mean GPS units don't transmit. did they mean an RF transmitter like they use on wild animals (hardly global)? or do they mean that they record the GPS coordinates and give family's a unit to go find the spot?

    throwing your garmin in with grandpa seems a bit silly since he doesn't care where he is and he ain't goin' nowhere

    1. Re:GPS? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I think it is more like geocaching, so the position of the body would be noted and publicized, but there wouldn't be a physical marker.

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  44. Good luck... by northernfrights · · Score: 1

    with this one: "GPS devices that track bodies buried without headstones"

  45. You Made Your Coffin... by dmomo · · Score: 1

    Now just lie in it, and it will do the rest.

  46. That's perfect! by SparkleMotion88 · · Score: 1

    This is great! I've been looking for a new metaphor for my current software project. The "two story outhouse" metaphor wasn't quite working anymore.

  47. Oblig. Bible quote by rlwhite · · Score: 1

    "Let the dead bury the dead."

  48. Re:Spinning in your grave. Hur hur. by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought SCO already got the patent on this.

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  49. Re:how deep does this go? you may hit pipes / powe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because their power lines are still working and the city energy authority plan to reuse them?

  50. Vertical burying by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    I have always wondered why the coffins need to be buried horizontally. It seems we could get two or three times as many graves in a cemetary if they were buried vertically, whether they are self-burying or not. There would still be room for flat stones and flower holders too.

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  51. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck, dump me in the east river

    i doubt i will care

  52. Reminds me of a great movie by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 1

    Anyone else think of the movie theloved one?

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  53. As densities increase.. by The+Creator · · Score: 1

    You gotta get.. perpendicular.

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  54. Coffins are a waste. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    I can't possibly be the only person around who thinks coffins are a waste of good resources. Back in the old days a pine box was all you got, and that wasn't so bad. Now they're full of steel, brass, aluminum and who knows what else.

    Shouldn't those materials be used on the living?

    This corkscrew coffin seems like it would require MORE of these things, not less.

    Plow my carcass into a field for fertilizer, there's no reason to waste resources to build an empty shell to put my empty shell in.

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    1. Re:Coffins are a waste. by rident · · Score: 1

      Yeah I totally agree with Pecosdave here. Make me ashes and toss me back to the earth, keep your memories. How selfish and inconsiderate toward the living for the dead to occupy a portion of land infinitely.

  55. Answers the previous article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The immediately previous posting was "Can Twitter and Facebook Deal With Their Dead?" Now we know just what to do.

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/08/12/143223/Can-Twitter-and-Facebook-Deal-With-Their-Dead

    I love it when tough questions are quickly answered... but now I fear that social media sites are bad for my health.
    If the only tool you have is a self-burying coffin, then everything starts to look like a Facebook...

  56. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody at Discovery News doesn't know how GPS works, much like you're uncertain as to how apostrophes or pluralization work.

  57. Toxic / Radioactive Waste Disposal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like that patent might be worth billions.

  58. Re:Spinning in your grave. Hur hur. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I will be when they're screwing my dead body.

  59. maybe it's just me by Nyder · · Score: 1

    But I don't care what happens after I die. I'll be dead. do what you want with my body.

    I don't need a tombstone, nor do I need a grave. Maybe other people in my family want me to have that stuff, but I don't. not my problem.

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  60. Development roadmap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For a real full-service coffin, it should be able to hunt you down and kill you.

    Next, self-replication.

  61. Preview of my eulogy by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

    Do a barrel roll!

    Do a barrel roll!

    Do a barrel roll!

  62. Nice auger job... by Genda · · Score: 1

    I can't help but be reminded of the smiling face of Chuck Yeager in the "Chuck Yeager Flight Simulator", after planting an SR-71 into the ground in a power dive from 100,000 feet... and his words "Nice auger job!"

  63. WHY NOT RECYCLE! by hashish16 · · Score: 1

    Seriously bury the dead is such an antiquated and wasteful tradition. Why not just give back.

  64. Don't touch my CHEESE !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't touch my Soylent Green !!!