the problem with the media industry is, is that there really is no way to test/verify the quality of the media independently or at all.
and price certainly is no indication of quality. people have reported the same exact discs selling for sometimes 2-3 times as much as a generic brand.
maybe THAT is exactly what they are hoping to prevent. they don't want people to be able to indentify the quality level of discs. they make 1000% profit on each disc they manufacture... and price discriminate and other unethical bs. seems they have a lot of incentive to keep the status quo aka screwing us over.
yes virginia, companies do collude to keep the status quo.
apple unfortunetly, since amd cannot produce enough volume, had to go and sign a deal with one of the devils of the x86 world (the other being MS).
maybe one can hope further down the road they might use amd chips...
i for one am never buying any intel based products . i haven't been on an intel machine in almost a decade. and it'll stay that way, even if i have to use via chips or abacusses.
except that PC (which used to mean x86 only), in the last decade and a half has come to mean any personal computer. as in not a mainframe but a computer that fits on a desk.
your current mac isn't going to die... in 2 years or even 20. as long as it is physically intact, it will continue to be useful for the lifetime of the system.
quit complaining. there is much to be gained going forward. you'll have cheaper and faster systems (f*** intel though, amd is a far better choice for more reasons than performance...).
the software will catch up in a year or two. don't be a snob, whether a it's a ppc or x86, they both process signals. computers are tools, even if they are stylish sometimes.
they need your support in order to implement new DRM technologies and pay for expensive lawyers to C&D not-for-profit software authors.
and not to forget those 2 other ****suckers. NINTENDO and MICROSOFT.
keep up the battle. maybe one day in the distant future, they will let you BUY products from them, instead of renting. and maybe they'll even let you own your own compiler and gasp!, let you write your own unauthorized software.
but the problem is a widespread one in technology.
if you spend so much of your processing time on trying to optimize (in hw), you might end up wasting more cpu time on the optimization than on the task at hand.
sort of reminds me of shiny's messiah game.
they spent nearly as much time "optimizing" the polygons, as processing and displaying them. it resulted in a buggy game that doesn't look any better today on current machines than it did on the 586 systems.
the problem is scalability. i don't know enough about transmeta's technology to say for certain it is the case but it would seem likely.
obviously one doesn't spend millions of dollars on reasearch and development on something "customers" don't want. but individuals aren't what they consider their customers.
they obviously have some secret deals. because nothing else explains why they are some insistent upon this and spending so much money for it...
it's about trust... i don't trust them. that's all i need to know.
since if apple users want to connect to the net, they'll get their DRM too.
it's now a US requirement for ISPs to implement Trusted Connections for people to get net access. the only way to do that is for hardware level DRM.
so maybe it'll happen a little later for apple users. but the only way to really counter this, is for everyone to cooperate and attack this DRM all over, from the media, to college campuses, every place that they can reach people.
microsoft, governments, etc are. when they tell intel to put drm in, they do it for their customers, not people who pay money in exchange for their products.
the major problem in the "press" is that they are big fucking liars. there is zero "bias", it's called LIES and when that fails, DISTRACTION aka scott peterson et al.
thank you again for all the informative and enlightening...err information.
luckily, since our benevolent overlord requires this at the !ISP LEVEL!, now we'll get our fellow mac users to help us out with defeating this... one can hope. since no one is safe, we'll have to cooperate.
it's a way of crippling your sound card; preventing it from recording from its inputs if it detects a copy protected stream.
next up is video. check out some of those old NGSCB/palladium screenshots and intel "lagrande" slides... they are implementing encryption aka DRM from the video chip to the display device.. such that you won't have control over what you can do with the data, as you can right now. no more taking screenshots, capturing video without permission etc etc.
they are using the BTF (boil the frog) method. longhorn will only have one or two of the features and they'll build upon it in each release.
if you cannot figure out that this is something no "individual" customer wants, then you need to read more carefully. there is nothing beneficial about reducing machines capabilities. then you consider that perhaps they don't consider end-users customers, then it becomes more clear. sort of like the tv/media advertising business. you are the product, they sell you to their customers.
something will be done about it... but they'll still keep boiling the frog... so when they don't get full DRM in 2006/2007, they'll introduce one new feature each year, for the next 10-20 years. that way those moronic people who pay for products but aren't customers won't notice.
keep treating us badly, and please digging your own grave. of course you won't notice you're digging, since that requires a modicum of intelligence.
there is NO way in hell that we will ever get anything even remotely reasonable in copyright laws. our only hope is that the current system collapses. there are far too many people with interests that run counter to justice and freedom that control the strings.
it's not giving up so much as knowing where to draw the line. it's like exerting infinitely more energy in a marathon each step to make it to the finish line when everyone but you is already there.
it's better to help contribute to its demise. slip copyright a few cyanide tablets when it's not looking.
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meet the new sarge. same as the old sarge.
i don't think that bill gates would homebrew a cpu but you can never be too sure in the days of stable debian releases and apple switching archs.
what's wrong with "great quality" discs?
just cd discs or dvds as well?
the problem with the media industry is, is that there really is no way to test/verify the quality of the media independently or at all.
and price certainly is no indication of quality. people have reported the same exact discs selling for sometimes 2-3 times as much as a generic brand.
maybe THAT is exactly what they are hoping to prevent. they don't want people to be able to indentify the quality level of discs. they make 1000% profit on each disc they manufacture... and price discriminate and other unethical bs. seems they have a lot of incentive to keep the status quo aka screwing us over.
yes virginia, companies do collude to keep the status quo.
you forgot intel.
and they should be after SCO and before MS.
no, that's a great tatoo.
intel truly sucks and is evil to boot.
apple unfortunetly, since amd cannot produce enough volume, had to go and sign a deal with one of the devils of the x86 world (the other being MS).
maybe one can hope further down the road they might use amd chips...
i for one am never buying any intel based products . i haven't been on an intel machine in almost a decade. and it'll stay that way, even if i have to use via chips or abacusses.
http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/wallpapers/hellfro zenover/HellFrozenOver-text-1024x.jpg
yes, it is work safe and family friendly.
except that PC (which used to mean x86 only), in the last decade and a half has come to mean any personal computer. as in not a mainframe but a computer that fits on a desk.
because micro won't support wine.
:)
so they have no excuse (officially at least) to stop support of those programs.
wine is sort of an underground tool. it'll never even be officially referenced by !any! reasonably large software companies.
the chance that wine will be used as an excuse is exactly zero. it'll never happen... even less likely than apple switching to x86
your current mac isn't going to die ... in 2 years or even 20. as long as it is physically intact, it will continue to be useful for the lifetime of the system.
quit complaining. there is much to be gained going forward. you'll have cheaper and faster systems (f*** intel though, amd is a far better choice for more reasons than performance...).
the software will catch up in a year or two. don't be a snob, whether a it's a ppc or x86, they both process signals. computers are tools, even if they are stylish sometimes.
go out and buy a SONY PS3/2/1.
they need your support in order to implement new DRM technologies and pay for expensive lawyers to C&D not-for-profit software authors.
and not to forget those 2 other ****suckers. NINTENDO and MICROSOFT.
keep up the battle. maybe one day in the distant future, they will let you BUY products from them, instead of renting. and maybe they'll even let you own your own compiler and gasp!, let you write your own unauthorized software.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
keep laughing at him you goddamn shills, then you can present your ID cards for every single thing you do in the future. it all starts here.
there is NO good DRM.
where do YOU want to go today?
unless you're uri geller.
i would certainly agree with you.
but the problem is a widespread one in technology.
if you spend so much of your processing time on trying to optimize (in hw), you might end up wasting more cpu time on the optimization than on the task at hand.
sort of reminds me of shiny's messiah game.
they spent nearly as much time "optimizing" the polygons, as processing and displaying them. it resulted in a buggy game that doesn't look any better today on current machines than it did on the 586 systems.
the problem is scalability. i don't know enough about transmeta's technology to say for certain it is the case but it would seem likely.
imagine having 4-8 of those cruse chips on a custom motherboard... running beos. :)
the glory days are over. darn.
no it wasn't.
it didn't sound right saying informative information.
it's because they are all in on it.
obviously one doesn't spend millions of dollars on reasearch and development on something "customers" don't want. but individuals aren't what they consider their customers.
they obviously have some secret deals. because nothing else explains why they are some insistent upon this and spending so much money for it...
it's about trust... i don't trust them. that's all i need to know.
since if apple users want to connect to the net, they'll get their DRM too.
it's now a US requirement for ISPs to implement Trusted Connections for people to get net access. the only way to do that is for hardware level DRM.
so maybe it'll happen a little later for apple users. but the only way to really counter this, is for everyone to cooperate and attack this DRM all over, from the media, to college campuses, every place that they can reach people.
see, thats a very common misconception.
people assume that end-users are the "customers".
they are not.
microsoft, governments, etc are. when they tell intel to put drm in, they do it for their customers, not people who pay money in exchange for their products.
the major problem in the "press" is that they are big fucking liars. there is zero "bias", it's called LIES and when that fails, DISTRACTION aka scott peterson et al.
good catch, i didn't realize that virtualization technology was actually a part of the DRM system... till now.
mother f***ers!
what next, the power button captures your finger prints?
seems like more and more subsystems are being diverted from their true purpose to the DRM cabal.
intel IS the corporate interest and has been for as long as they've been in business.
this is not a sudden move, where till now they've been cute fluffy bunnies.
they are sobs , plain and simple.
contrast with amd, who until being forced to implement DRM to make windows compatible computers, weren't the MS of the cpu world.
yeah, who needs an ISP...
you can just find some dark fiber and buy a new fiber pci card and connect directly...
thank you again for all the informative and enlightening ...err information.
luckily, since our benevolent overlord requires this at the !ISP LEVEL!, now we'll get our fellow mac users to help us out with defeating this... one can hope. since no one is safe, we'll have to cooperate.
they've already started.
it's already in audio cards/drivers.
something called "secure audio path".
it's a way of crippling your sound card; preventing it from recording from its inputs if it detects a copy protected stream.
next up is video. check out some of those old NGSCB/palladium screenshots and intel "lagrande" slides... they are implementing encryption aka DRM from the video chip to the display device.. such that you won't have control over what you can do with the data, as you can right now. no more taking screenshots, capturing video without permission etc etc.
they are using the BTF (boil the frog) method. longhorn will only have one or two of the features and they'll build upon it in each release.
if you cannot figure out that this is something no "individual" customer wants, then you need to read more carefully. there is nothing beneficial about reducing machines capabilities. then you consider that perhaps they don't consider end-users customers, then it becomes more clear. sort of like the tv/media advertising business. you are the product, they sell you to their customers.
something will be done about it... but they'll still keep boiling the frog... so when they don't get full DRM in 2006/2007, they'll introduce one new feature each year, for the next 10-20 years. that way those moronic people who pay for products but aren't customers won't notice.
keep treating us badly, and please digging your own grave. of course you won't notice you're digging, since that requires a modicum of intelligence.
WIPO = Global BSA/SPA
what kind of jail cell do you want today?
there is NO way in hell that we will ever get anything even remotely reasonable in copyright laws. our only hope is that the current system collapses. there are far too many people with interests that run counter to justice and freedom that control the strings.
it's not giving up so much as knowing where to draw the line. it's like exerting infinitely more energy in a marathon each step to make it to the finish line when everyone but you is already there.
it's better to help contribute to its demise. slip copyright a few cyanide tablets when it's not looking.
has anyone ever actually seen the editors?
maybe they never existed...