And people who "meticulously hand optomize" their code annoy the crap out of me. Run it, tweak it, run it again. Was the second run faster? Then tweak some more.
When we are talking about math routines (I do simulation programming for engineering applications) its much better if you have a f'ing clue about what you are doing than just *tweaking* and seeing if it works better. And when runs take hours, it often isn't even an option.
People lived in Wisconsin before electricity for heat, or even regular heating oil/coal.
They have. But the problem is, in the modern world their house will not be up to code and will be condemned. You live in the modern world, you have to deal with the modern world.
And as to desalinization no, its not the cheapest route - thats why we're not doing it... and that's why its obvious there is no water crisis (if there were a crisis we'd be scrambling to build desaliniation plants)
As someone who grew up somewhere where the ambient temperature is less than freezing more than 4 out of 12 months of the year (Wisconsin); I'd beg to differ. Not to mention if we are bringing into discussion people who regularly live without power (the homeless, etc.) they have freely available water (albeit not ideal sources).
The long and short of it is water is cheap - the first 20 minutes I work each month pays for water, easily... compared to rent, electricity, etc... its a piss in the lake. Its really not a concern. This globe is 70% water by surface area: desalinization is not that expensive a process energy-wise (I am an engineer) this is a moot point.
Maybe so. My point stands. There are better examples I just didn't have one at the time. I'd be more worried about a derivitive work than a 1-man distro. I mean look at slackware. Despite Patrick Volerding's health problems the new versions have been rolling off the presses without a hitch...
As Ubuntu prepares for release, we "freeze" a snapshot of debian's development archive ('sid').
Ubuntu is built on debian.
If Debian folds, Ubuntu will either (a) have to start their own primary linux distribution or (b) start leeching off of someone else as they are a derivitive work which was my point. Look at Slackware, despite Patrick Volkerding's health problems the releases have been steady. However a derivitive work whose upstream decides to fold will find themselves in a very uncomfortable position.
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Not 1-man distros so much as derivitive distros
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I'm not worried about slackware; its an original project dependant on noone but itself. But what happens to Ubuntu if Debian folds?
Well, water quite frankly is cheap. Here in the US (this is a US board after all) I pay less for water for my entire house than I do for the one online game I play each month. Grandparent is quite correct in saying water is cheap, and if there is a looming shortage the market should play a role in deciding how much water should cost. I pay 8-15 times as much for power each month - would you not consider power a "necessity of life"? How can you justify it costing so much then? I'd be interested to know...
Fact is water is cheap because its freely available (to most of the world) and cheap to process. Electricity is not because its harder to manufacture and comes with strings attached (regulations to meet, inefficiencies, more maintenance, etc.)
Microsoft didn't "censor" anything, they made a comment fair and unbiased. The original contributioned pinned one example and the correction made a more general statement that was more true. Nothing wrong with that; but this is/. where everything Microsoft does is wrong and evil.
I prefer music in the car, I have a long commute and I regularly make long (20+ hour 2+ times/year) roadtrips, but whatever works for you... I think the better solution is a moderately priced car with a car alarm.
Cause im smart enough to do something to defend myself. If I went to a low number country, undoubtedly the number is low because the market doesn't exist. The high number countries have a good strong market, you just have to be smarter than the average consumer.
I'm an aerospace engineer and a father of a seven-month old ; I tell you the truth intuition kicks in the second your wife (or you if you are of the fairer sex) gives birth. When the nurse hands you that bundle you know how to hold it. The stuff comes naturally. 100 years ago parenting guides didn't exist - it was assumed you could just figure this stuff out (its childs play? heh).
Aluminum is very cheap, however plastic is easier to heat to a liquid and mold. Aluminum for an application like this you would most likely have to mill, which is a more expensive process.
Slackware doesn't suffer from all the bloat the "other distros" seem to suffer from. From the simple but sufficient text installer, to just the right number of packages - its not bloatware. They also tend to stay a step or two behind the other distos with respect to upgrading libraries and such so your applications tend not to break as often...
Barenaked Ladies have always been kind of gimmicky - willing to try differnt things, sing songs that are a little offbeat on a major label, etc. This fits right into the sort of thing they would do. *sings* If I had thirty dollars...
The single xbox replaces a (cd player / dvd player / surround sound controller / etc). You can lock it in your private quarters in a minute when you leave. All the stuff it replaces, you couldn't feasibly move every time you left the common area. All it takes is yanking out a few cables and stashing it under your bed and locking the door before you leave for class.
Microsoft touts this as a brilliant center of home media and that's probably true for anyone who doesn't already have a home entertainment center of some sort.
Yup. Its perfect for college students and the like who have to pick up and move every few semesters and share stuff with other people. Why stock up on a lot of equiptment when a XBOX will function as your multimedia center?
In a fighter aircraft, if you are just supplying oxygen, you are supplying it at 5psi, you aren't overpressuring by 5psi. IE, you'd think of it as sucking all of the atmosphere out, and then just putting in air at 5psi.
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Science vs. Special Effects
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I'm a fan of the show - my wife and I catch it every week. However as a mechanical engineer there are a lot of times we are watching and realise that there are some basic scientific misteaks being made. For example the myth about the hair creme in the cockpit... the cockpit was pressurized at 5psi (i think, or some PSI) at altitude, **not** being pressurized at 5psi over ambient.
I guess my question is I realise the two of you and your newer companions all have a long heritage in special effects, but not necessarily in hardcore engineering (thermodynamics / mechanics / etc.). Where is the line drawn between science and special effects? The consultants are fine, but have you ever considered hiring a staff engineer?
Don't assume software engineer just cause this is slashdot... I'm an aerospace engineer. I dont know the differece in sql's. All I'm saying is given constraints, he evaluated them. It's not his job to judge the constraints.
Code that is already reason. Where the userbase already exists, already has windows. Where there is no financial reason to move to Linux.
Make your tools portable or I walk
Good for you. The rest of us like to eat. We work for money.
Nothing that Linux or Windows inherently favours
So why favor Linux over Windows? If I already have a copy of Windows running on my desktop, why go through the work of reformatting, installing linux, and bugging people to port software? No thanks, I'll use whats already there.
And people who "meticulously hand optomize" their code annoy the crap out of me. Run it, tweak it, run it again. Was the second run faster? Then tweak some more.
When we are talking about math routines (I do simulation programming for engineering applications) its much better if you have a f'ing clue about what you are doing than just *tweaking* and seeing if it works better. And when runs take hours, it often isn't even an option.
-everphilski-
People lived in Wisconsin before electricity for heat, or even regular heating oil/coal.
... and that's why its obvious there is no water crisis (if there were a crisis we'd be scrambling to build desaliniation plants)
They have. But the problem is, in the modern world their house will not be up to code and will be condemned. You live in the modern world, you have to deal with the modern world.
And as to desalinization no, its not the cheapest route - thats why we're not doing it
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As someone who grew up somewhere where the ambient temperature is less than freezing more than 4 out of 12 months of the year (Wisconsin); I'd beg to differ. Not to mention if we are bringing into discussion people who regularly live without power (the homeless, etc.) they have freely available water (albeit not ideal sources).
The long and short of it is water is cheap - the first 20 minutes I work each month pays for water, easily... compared to rent, electricity, etc... its a piss in the lake. Its really not a concern. This globe is 70% water by surface area: desalinization is not that expensive a process energy-wise (I am an engineer) this is a moot point.
-everphilski-
Maybe so. My point stands. There are better examples I just didn't have one at the time. I'd be more worried about a derivitive work than a 1-man distro. I mean look at slackware. Despite Patrick Volerding's health problems the new versions have been rolling off the presses without a hitch...
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From http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/doc ument_view
As Ubuntu prepares for release, we "freeze" a snapshot of debian's development archive ('sid').
Ubuntu is built on debian.
If Debian folds, Ubuntu will either (a) have to start their own primary linux distribution or (b) start leeching off of someone else as they are a derivitive work which was my point. Look at Slackware, despite Patrick Volkerding's health problems the releases have been steady. However a derivitive work whose upstream decides to fold will find themselves in a very uncomfortable position.
-everphilski-
I'm not worried about slackware; its an original project dependant on noone but itself. But what happens to Ubuntu if Debian folds?
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Well, water quite frankly is cheap. Here in the US (this is a US board after all) I pay less for water for my entire house than I do for the one online game I play each month. Grandparent is quite correct in saying water is cheap, and if there is a looming shortage the market should play a role in deciding how much water should cost. I pay 8-15 times as much for power each month - would you not consider power a "necessity of life"? How can you justify it costing so much then? I'd be interested to know...
Fact is water is cheap because its freely available (to most of the world) and cheap to process. Electricity is not because its harder to manufacture and comes with strings attached (regulations to meet, inefficiencies, more maintenance, etc.)
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calc
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Microsoft didn't "censor" anything, they made a comment fair and unbiased. The original contributioned pinned one example and the correction made a more general statement that was more true. Nothing wrong with that; but this is /. where everything Microsoft does is wrong and evil.
-everphilski-
I prefer music in the car, I have a long commute and I regularly make long (20+ hour 2+ times/year) roadtrips, but whatever works for you... I think the better solution is a moderately priced car with a car alarm.
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Cause im smart enough to do something to defend myself. If I went to a low number country, undoubtedly the number is low because the market doesn't exist. The high number countries have a good strong market, you just have to be smarter than the average consumer.
-everphilski-
I'm an aerospace engineer and a father of a seven-month old ; I tell you the truth intuition kicks in the second your wife (or you if you are of the fairer sex) gives birth. When the nurse hands you that bundle you know how to hold it. The stuff comes naturally. 100 years ago parenting guides didn't exist - it was assumed you could just figure this stuff out (its childs play? heh).
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Better spoken :)
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Aluminum is very cheap, however plastic is easier to heat to a liquid and mold. Aluminum for an application like this you would most likely have to mill, which is a more expensive process.
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Slackware doesn't suffer from all the bloat the "other distros" seem to suffer from. From the simple but sufficient text installer, to just the right number of packages - its not bloatware. They also tend to stay a step or two behind the other distos with respect to upgrading libraries and such so your applications tend not to break as often...
Besides, what other distro has aSmoking Tux Logo?
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I meant RSC
/beats self with the noob stick
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Rogue hackers at NASA/RSA hacked in and took command...
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cmon mods... wtf
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Barenaked Ladies have always been kind of gimmicky - willing to try differnt things, sing songs that are a little offbeat on a major label, etc. This fits right into the sort of thing they would do. *sings* If I had thirty dollars...
-everphilski-
The single xbox replaces a (cd player / dvd player / surround sound controller / etc). You can lock it in your private quarters in a minute when you leave. All the stuff it replaces, you couldn't feasibly move every time you left the common area. All it takes is yanking out a few cables and stashing it under your bed and locking the door before you leave for class.
-everphilski-
Microsoft touts this as a brilliant center of home media and that's probably true for anyone who doesn't already have a home entertainment center of some sort.
Yup. Its perfect for college students and the like who have to pick up and move every few semesters and share stuff with other people. Why stock up on a lot of equiptment when a XBOX will function as your multimedia center?
-everphilski-
In a fighter aircraft, if you are just supplying oxygen, you are supplying it at 5psi, you aren't overpressuring by 5psi. IE, you'd think of it as sucking all of the atmosphere out, and then just putting in air at 5psi.
-everphilski-
I'm a fan of the show - my wife and I catch it every week. However as a mechanical engineer there are a lot of times we are watching and realise that there are some basic scientific misteaks being made. For example the myth about the hair creme in the cockpit... the cockpit was pressurized at 5psi (i think, or some PSI) at altitude, **not** being pressurized at 5psi over ambient.
I guess my question is I realise the two of you and your newer companions all have a long heritage in special effects, but not necessarily in hardcore engineering (thermodynamics / mechanics / etc.). Where is the line drawn between science and special effects? The consultants are fine, but have you ever considered hiring a staff engineer?
-everphilski-
As an engineer
Don't assume software engineer just cause this is slashdot... I'm an aerospace engineer. I dont know the differece in sql's. All I'm saying is given constraints, he evaluated them. It's not his job to judge the constraints.
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Such as what?
Code that is already reason. Where the userbase already exists, already has windows. Where there is no financial reason to move to Linux.
Make your tools portable or I walk
Good for you. The rest of us like to eat. We work for money.
Nothing that Linux or Windows inherently favours
So why favor Linux over Windows? If I already have a copy of Windows running on my desktop, why go through the work of reformatting, installing linux, and bugging people to port software? No thanks, I'll use whats already there.
well except process spawning favours Linux
Yeah, and threading in windows, your point?
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