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Who are the Mythbusters? Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are the hosts of a unique and popular television show on the Discovery cable channel. Working from a background in the special effects industry and shooting on location at effects warehouse M5 Industries, Jamie and Adam attempt to shed light on hearsay, rumour, and myth. Along the way they usually run across a little bit of science, too. Today, you have a chance to put questions to them. We'll take the 15 best questions and pass them on to the gentlemen to be answered sometime soon after the Thanksgiving holiday. One question per comment, please, and keep things topical. We'll post their responses as soon as we get them back, so ask away.

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  1. Favorites by MikesOnFire · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lets start simple -
    What is your favorite Busted Myth and your favorite Confirmed one?

    1. Re:Favorites by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      Dunno about the busted one, but my personal favorite was the episode they did on rapid beer chilling. It seems that just by adding a good bit of salt to your ice chest is the most efficient (well, efficient and possible on a budget that will still allow you to afford more beer.) Mmmmm... Beer....

    2. Re:Favorites by stevey · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've only seen a few shows, but I like the way they look like they're always having fun and getting paid to goof off.

      By far the best episode I ever saw was the one where they showed a wine glass being shattered by the sound of somebodies voice; allegedly this was the first confirmed case of this being captured on camera, rather than being repeated as hearsay.

      (From memory they had to use an amplifier)

    3. Re:Favorites by Such007 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have you ever done any experiments on tapeworms? Can they live outside the body, say for example in a tap line at a bar?

    4. Re:Favorites by ericcantona · · Score: 0

      lets start even more simple: is it true that all first posts are by slash-staff ?

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    5. Re:Favorites by MikesOnFire · · Score: 1

      no

    6. Re:Favorites by kpwoodr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The title of your show is "Myth Busters". That said it would seem to your benefit to have more bustable myths than not. Your reputation seems to be at stake with the need to stay above .500. Otherwise you might have to change the name of your show to something like "Myth Guys" or "Guys who sometimes bust myths, but only easy ones".

      Are there any myths that the network won't let you have a crack at?

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    7. Re:Favorites by llevity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In all fairness, this is two guys vs. MIT. Cut them some slack, eh?

    8. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I've seen it done (breaking glass by voice) on dutch telly, some popular science show, years ago. Could have been the show 'daar vraag je me wat'. [Ach - who cares].

    9. Re:Favorites by blancolioni · · Score: 1

      Your ... self-righteousness ... overwhelms me ...

    10. Re:Favorites by Dasch · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, when the Mythbursters invited the MIT guys to San Francisco, MIT's death ray apparatus didn't successfully set a ship on fire.

      http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2005-10-22-de athray_x.htm

    11. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While MIT did get the boat to catch fire, it was using a number of condidtions that would't exist in the middle of the Atheian Harbor. So the Mythbusters proved under certain conditions it wouldnt work. The MIT people proved it would under other, more optimal conditions that wouldn't exist in the field.

    12. Re:Favorites by jshackney · · Score: 1

      It didn't take MIT to prove the Death Ray was possible. I think it's unlikely Archimedes constructed such a large device (or had an army of highly coorinated mirror handlers--not to mention modern mirror manufacturing techniques) and was able to focus and guide it with the precision necessary to set a ship to flames.

    13. Re:Favorites by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. I haven't seen that one but I tried it before. The only problem with it is that you're left with a salty residue on your beer can/bottle. The first few sips are salty unless you wipe it off.

    14. Re:Favorites by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      I suggest you take it for what it is, an entertainment show rather than scientists in a lab working for a university.

      Yes, despite their claims of "busting myths", that obviously is there to have a unique show idea, rather than to say everyone else is wrong.

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    15. Re:Favorites by saetaes · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um, actually, the MIT team went out to San Francisco on the Discovery Channel's dime, and failed to recreate their own results. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2 005/10/22/state/n121443D54.DTL You might want to reconsider the MythBuster's credibility...

    16. Re:Favorites by pizza_milkshake · · Score: 1

      they did investigate the myth that a human could give birth to (iirc) an octopus. it turned out that the human stomach is too harsh of an environment for nearly all animals, save for tapeworms (and a few others). the "octopus" myth was likely started by the extraction of a many tapeworms, which, when wrapped together could appear to the untrained observer to look like a single animal with many tentacles.

    17. Re:Favorites by Manitcor · · Score: 4, Informative

      What your forgetting is the format of the show. First they take a myth and test it as closely as possible to the excat theme of the myth.

      In this case the myth was that Arcamedies had an army of soliders with highly polished shields. On command the soliders directed the sunlight at the advancing ships. And burned to dust an entire fleet. No not one boat, but an entire advancing fleet.

      This myth was quickly busted from the inital tests showing the diffcutly of having multiple people align thier mirrors in one spot.

      Next they tested the 2nd myth which was similar claiming that arcamedies had a device with mirrors mounted to it which he used to direct the sunlight. As both mythbusters and MIT discovered, while possible to ignite or create smoke on an ship you have serious issues with mirror alignment and the movement of the sun. While it may be probale that a device like this was in fact constructed and even probable that it was used and may have even torched or at least set to flame one ship (ignoring factors like wet hulls, and having ideal conditions). The chances of someone even today taking out an entire fleet of advancing ships which would likely be spread across miles of shore line is so unlikely that it borders on completly impossible if not impossible.

      Thus the myth was busted.

      Often times people tend to forget what the myth actually was by the time they are at the end of the show. This was a problem with the eariler shows and if you notice in later shows the format is changed up a bit where they re-hash and re-explain the myth as well as why it was busted. To prevent this very problem.

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    18. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That show sucks now. They used to confirm or resolve each individual myth in segments, now the go through and don't give the results till the end of the show.

    19. Re:Favorites by carlos_benj · · Score: 3, Funny

      The only problem with it is that you're left with a salty residue on your beer can/bottle. The first few sips are salty unless you wipe it off.

      That is a problem. I'd suggest wiping it off then.......

      With brilliant thinking like this, do you suppose I could have a spot on the show?

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    20. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was he talking to you?

    21. Re:Favorites by IngramJames · · Score: 3, Funny

      allegedly this was the first confirmed case of this being captured on camera, rather than being repeated as hearsay

      I remember watching that being done on UK TV as a kid in the 70s. I wasn't that impressed, because the glass didn't shatter violently and spectactularly, like it would have done if Murdoch off the A Team had shot it with an AK-47 in a bar raid on local moonshine suppliers.

      I don't know what that says about me, and I don't much care to ask.

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    22. Re:Favorites by Valegor · · Score: 1

      Let's also not forget that the MIT guys lit a dry docked boat on fire. The Mythbusters were trying to prove or disprove a myth so they used one actually in the water. Wet wood vs dry wood is likely to make a huge difference. When the MIT guys brought thier contraption out to test on a boat that was in the water they could not light it on fire either. They did get some smoke, but nothing that threatened the boat.

    23. Re:Favorites by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A common 'myth'conception, my friend.....

      A myth is a story that may or may not have some basis in truth. So, the ratio of busted to confirmed myths isn't necessary to the accuracy of the title as it could accurately convey their intent (and it sounds cooler than "Myth Investigators"). They may be setting out to bust as many as they can, but in the process they end up confirming some.

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    24. Re:Favorites by catalina · · Score: 1

      ..........The only problem with it is that you're left with a salty residue on your beer can/bottle. The first few sips are salty unless you wipe it off.

      And don't forget that you should use a wedge of lime to wipe if off.

    25. Re:Favorites by Glsai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's quite a bit more expensive than salt, but this has to be a much geekier way to do it: http://www.coopercooler.com/index_1.html

    26. Re:Favorites by netsrek · · Score: 2, Funny
      they did investigate the myth that a human could give birth to (iirc) an octopus. it turned out that the human stomach is too harsh of an environment for nearly all animals


      Babies live in the stomach!?!?!?!
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    27. Re:Favorites by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Simpler still, Are you hiring?

      Ohh, my dream job. Build stuff then blow it up.

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    28. Re:Favorites by Datoyminaytah · · Score: 1

      But the advertisers love the new format.

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    29. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better question:

      How can one hire Kari?

      Rowr.

    30. Re:Favorites by bernywork · · Score: 1

      Babies live in the stomach!

      Is that what it is? I thought it was a beer gut!!

      Damn! Am I about to give birth to twins?!?!?!?!

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    31. Re:Favorites by gryfen · · Score: 1

      I think in all seriousness that you cannot objectively say the myth was "busted", it was simply not re-created successfully. They didn't prove that it *couldn't* be done, in fact, the results seem to indicate that, with better tools and techniques, it probably *could* have been done.

      Also, there are a lot of assumptions made in the performance of the myth, that have a definite impact on how successful the re-creation attempt might be. To list a few that occurred to me (and I am not claiming all are accurate or correct, but more to illustrate my point in general):

      (1) Ships today are made with different materials. From what I have read about historical boats, a lot of ships used materials like pitch and tar in quantity, which I believe are typically more flammable than dry wood.

      (2) A number of soldiers were used: How many? What if it was 300? 500? What if these soldiers were specifically trained/spent time practicing focusing their mirrors? If this actually happened, they probably trained, and had their leader shouting out instructions, like 'focus on the lead ship, on the rail by the first sheet!' or something similar. With a large enough group, you wouldn't need to get *all* of them at the exact same spot, especially if the material was highly flammable (see point (1)).

      (3) When you say 'an entire advancing fleet', how many ships is this? In Archimedes time, I would think that 500 soldiers would be a serious invading force. How many ships would it take to transport that many? 5-10? Thats not a whole lot to try to set on fire.

      I don't have a strong opinion as to whether this myth is true or not, but it's quite clear that Archimedes was a genius, and I think it's the height of conceit to say it's been proven that he couldn't have done it.

      G

    32. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and the bishop is the father! (old joke)

    33. Re:Favorites by DesireCampbell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly, one of my favourite upisodes was the myth about diving underwater to escape gun fire. The shot bullets into the water to see how far it took to slow the bullets down enought to make them non-lethal. The 9mm hadgun took about a dozen feet (as I recall) and the shotgun took about the same. When they moved up to supersonic weapons, the water proved an insurmountable force - stopping the bullets almost instantly, and more, the bullets SHATTERED into hundreds of peices withing the first foot of water. They even tested anti-TANK rifles - huge explosion of water, little fragments of bullet. Proving you could be completly safe from firearms if you slim a couple of feet underwater. Just one of the myths that they proved true.

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    34. Re:Favorites by MECC · · Score: 1


      " In all fairness, this is two guys vs. MIT. Cut them some slack, eh?"

      There has to be more than two of them. Who's the guy running the camera? (Although I suppose they go through cameramen like potato chips...)

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    35. Re:Favorites by bataras · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is impossible to prove a negative. When you do something like failing to flip a taxi with a jet engine and claim that busts the myth that a taxi can be flipped with a jet engine, do you feel you're misleading the public as to how science and logic work?

    36. Re:Favorites by Jboy_24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its said to be impossible to prove a negative. I think they did do a great job in proving that it was impossible enough.

      1) They tested with pitch and tar on wood

      2-3) I read that invading ships would cover the sea for as far as the eye could see. Do you really think 300-500 soldiers could invade a city with perhaps 100,000+ people? I think you're off by 100x

      Finally, MIT was only able to catch a ship on fire when it was 75 feet away using modern mirrors. Look at something 75 feet away. You honestly think Archimedies had 1000s of soldiers standing at the shore, aiming mirrors at ships 75 ft (22m) away (bobbing in the ocean) trying to start them on fire, while the people on the ship were firing arrows back at them?

    37. Re:Favorites by szyzyg · · Score: 1

      You know, they have already answered this question on one of the Mythbusters compilation shows, do we want to burn one of our questions on this? ;-)

    38. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, considering at the end of the segment, they said "We couldn't do it, but we found actual video footage of it being done, so it looks pretty plausible to us. Here, look at the footage" I would say they aren't misleading anyone but asshats like you.

    39. Re:Favorites by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only problem with it is that you're left with a salty residue on your beer can/bottle. The first few sips are salty unless you wipe it off.

      Can? I wasn't aware that real beer came in cans ;)

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    40. Re:Favorites by mugs_oh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They do lose credibility on this when they show the video of a taxi being flipped by a jet engine in Brazil. Their mistake is that they never stay true to the conditions of the myth. They often interjct their own thoughts as to what is should be instead of what it was. In this case they used a heavy American taxi instead of the lightweight little cares used as taxis in Brazil. They were too short-sighted and didn't research their experiment. I used to like this show, but became too frustrated watching it and seeing glaring porblems with their recreations. Another example is the "Magic Bullet" experiment from the Kennedy assasination. They assumed the "Magic Bullet" was made out of ice. But, in the lore of the assisination the "Magic Bullet" is used to refer to a bullet that entered and exited Kennedy twice and ended up in Conolly's leg. Again, they got it wrong. There are some theories that an ice bullet was used, but it is not the Magic Bullet so often referred to.

    41. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite confirmed one is when they proved (barely) that you could pull a skier behind an 8 person row boat.

    42. Re:Favorites by Pope · · Score: 1

      It was water as well as salt, to create the most cooling surface area for the beer to sit it. Simply putting the beer in ice and adding salt takes far too long since the ice has to melt.

      Solution: salt + ice + water = cold beer in 5 minutes flat.

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    43. Re:Favorites by Manitcor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First I think you are underestiamting the size of such a fleet. The roman navy at one time was the largest Navy in the world. In 36BC after Sextus was defeated by Octavian, a war where it was said there were thousands of ships engauged, the roman navy still touted over 700 warships.

      Invading armies conquered by the 1000s. Assuming even a small fleet of 50 or so ships it would still be quite diffcult to catch anything on fire.

      Throwing out the device as aming and pointing with the movment of the sun would clearly be too diffcult to take out such a large numeber of ships takes us back to the infantry with polished shields theroy.

      A roman bow (depending on if it was infantry or calvery) range is between 130 and 300 meters. MITs best efforts with perfectly placed mirrors was 75feet.

      If you could get an army of 10,000 men to move thier shields to the right place at the right time and be able to ignite a hull from at least more than 130 (416 feet) to possibly more than 300 (984 feet) meters away at minimum. Considering the loss in heat and intensienty over distance Im sure you begin to see the inherint problems with this. Further the range assumes you can get that many infantry men to stand in a close enoungh configuration so that the overall distance between the edges of the array isint so far apart that those on the edges of the array are generally useless.

      Having the men in rows back to back would only work so far. Not to mention moving up and down poetentally miles of shoreline to cover the entire fleet.

      I dont doubt that arcemedies was a genuis and in every tale (be it truth, lie or myth) there is always a bit of truth. It would not surprise me at all to know that Acramedies did build a device like this, and that it may have even been succfuly used on one ship at the right range under the right conditions. If that was the myth then it would have been proven or at least listed as plausible. But the myth states this device destroying an entire roman fleet. Its the scale of the myth that makes it busted.

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    44. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Asking for the sun to do anything valuable in the Bay Area is not a valid question.

      Try it in Phoenix during the summer high-pressure atmospheric lensing season.

      You'll set schist on fire.

    45. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Its said to be impossible to prove a negative

      It's not true.

    46. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      > Are there any myths that the network won't let you have a crack at?

      Creationism... Intelligent Design?

      Now that would be a hell of an episode. No pun intended.

    47. Re:Favorites by S.O.B. · · Score: 1

      Are there any myths you really, really, really wanted to test but the producers wouldn't let you? If so, why.

      And since everyone else is asking, can I have Kari's phone number.

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    48. Re:Favorites by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Do they ever plan to build and test a Tesla death ray? Oh please, oh please!!!

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    49. Re:Favorites by th3space · · Score: 1

      Because the climate in Phoenix is similar to that of the Greecian coast? San Francisco may not necessarily be in line with that, either, but it's a damn site closer than Phoenix.

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    50. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't aim at the hull.

      Aim at the sail.

      There's nothing more flammable than an untreated sail.

      Unless it's a sail treated by oiling it.

      The inability to tile the plane is one of MythBusters' greatest faults. They consistently miss things that any cagy science student would see immediately. You'd think they'd keep at least one truly anal technical advisor on staff. Or maybe they're just doing so much they can't get enough runway to reach analytical flight.

    51. Re:Favorites by Zordak · · Score: 2, Funny

      Prove it!

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    52. Re:Favorites by miley · · Score: 1

      Loved the busting of the Darwin award myth about strapping (well, welding) missiles to the top of a chevy, and seeing how fast the car would go. I hate how at the beginning of each segment, the announcer repeats the myth, the tests tried and the results so far. This is an hour show -- no other hour show needs a recap every 15 min. Can you imagine if Lost gave a 'previously on Lost' section after each commercial break?!

    53. Re:Favorites by Strixy · · Score: 0

      "Are there any myths that the network won't let you have a crack at? "

      That is an excellent question! Mod it up!

    54. Re:Favorites by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      Sort of off topic, but I only buy good beer. The best 'non-real' beer in my opinion is Yuengling, which comes from what used to be a relatively small Pennsylvania brewery. Now it's available all along the East coast (with a satellite brewery in Florida). It's not a super premium beer, but it's cheaper than the garbage that Budweiser and Miller call beer and is quite drinkable. For a decent party beer that's not expensive and can be consumed in mass quantities, Yuengling Lager can't be beat. My favorite is Yuengling porter, but your typical Budweiser and Miller boys don't like dark beer that actually has some flavor.

      One thing for certain is that you'll NEVER find a can/bottle of Budweiser, Miller, Coors, even Labatt or Molson (Canadian Budweiser) for that matter, in my house. Some of my favorites include:

      Newcastle
      Samuel Smith (Oatmeal Stout and Pale Ale)
      Anything from the Stone Brewery
      Anything from Andersen Valley Brewing Company (especially their Boont Amber Ale and Hop Ottin' IPA)
      Brooklyn Brewery which I recently discovered.

      Throughout Southern California, there's a nice brewpub called BJ's Brewhouse, with several locations that make their own beer on site. One of my favorites is their Nutty Brewnette, and their Tatonka Stout is also extremely heavy and powerful if you're in the mood (sort of like a thick black syrupy beer with 8+% alcohol).

    55. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Was Greece known for its fog?

      Is San Francisco known for year-round nudity?

      Wait...

    56. Re:Favorites by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

      Another example is the "Magic Bullet" experiment from the Kennedy assasination. They assumed the "Magic Bullet" was made out of ice.

      I regret to inform you that you are incorrect. The ice bullet episode had nothing to do with the Kennedy assasination, and I think was based on a scene from the movie Most Wanted. I don't believe that the Mythbusters have ever done an episode involving the Kennedy (at least not according to a basic search of their episode guides on tv.com). You may be confusing it with a special that the History Channel ran.

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    57. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Prove it for yourself.

      Say, "THERE ARE NO ALLIGATORS IN MY PANTS".

      Then check, if you must.

    58. Re:Favorites by kpwoodr · · Score: 1

      > Now that would be a hell of an episode. No pun intended.

      Or it could be a heavenly episode....eek, now I'm just asking to incur the wrath of the moderator!

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    59. Re:Favorites by kesuki · · Score: 2, Insightful

      my main gripe about the testing is they didn't test silver. Pure Silver Was what mirors were made of in ancient greece. Silver has a greater reflective index than any other Substance Period, inclulding modern aluminum backed mirrors.

      silver is expensive, i know, even if the shields were merely plated in silver it would have been a king's ransom to build an array of them... but it would also explain why no evidence of such an array survived outside of myths and stories...

      of course the conventional way to sink a fleet of ships would be to use greek fire tipped arrows, the fact that they left silver untested bothers me greatly... modern mirrors come close to what's possible with polished silver, but in terms of setting ships on fire 'close' isn't always 'close enough'

    60. Re:Favorites by shmlco · · Score: 1

      With the light from 500 mirrors bouncing around, how to you know you're focusing "your" mirror.

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    61. Re:Favorites by opposume · · Score: 1

      That stuff is GREAT!!! It's available here in Richmond, VA and is very popular.

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    62. Re:Favorites by Beardydog · · Score: 1

      My memory of the episode is that they used polished bronze in some of their tests, because it was a common material for shields, and that it actually turned out to be much better at reflecting infrared and producing heat on the target than modern mirrors.

    63. Re:Favorites by th3space · · Score: 1

      Are you incapable of reading entire statements? If so, I'm very sorry that you'll never see this, but I'm pretty goddamn sure that I made mention of the fact that San Francisco wasn't a perfect match either, but far closer than the desert oasis (hah!) of Phoenix.

      Honestly, if you're going to be a tool, at least put some fucking effort into it.

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    64. Re:Favorites by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      That's the thing everyone ignores.

      Setting a ship at a known point on fire is trivial. This is what MIT did. Yay them.

      Setting a single enemy ship sailing in on fire, even if you know in advance it's coming, would be near impossible, especially since you had to do it before the archers could reach you. Even if you had a bunch of extremely well-trained soldiers.

      Maybe, someone once did manage to do that.

      No way in hell anyone has ever burned down a fleet.

      And burning down a ship isn't that impressive. You can do the same damn thing with flaming arrows, and it's a lot safer because you can get behind cover instead of standing out in the sun.

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    65. Re:Favorites by HidingMyName · · Score: 1
      of course the conventional way to sink a fleet of ships would be to use greek fire tipped arrows
      The use of flaming arrows makes sense. However, while the Greeks of that time likely had some flamable liquids, the Greek Fire is a Byzantine era invention used sort of like a flame thrower (around 673 A.D.) and was not around during the Roman Siege of Syracuse which happened during the 2nd Punic war (I think it was around 214-213 B.C. or so).
    66. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Are there any myths that the network won't let you have a crack at?"

      JFK magic bullet?

    67. Re:Favorites by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      A glass was broken with voice on several different Australian TV shows years ago - I think "The Curiosity Show" (70s), "Hey Hey It's Saturday" (80s) and "Rove Live" (90s) all did it at one point.

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    68. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are trying to disprove it, it is better to choose somewhere that is a least as sunny/hot as it would be in Greece in the summer. Choosing somewhere cooler is not a fair test. If it works in a hotter climate, then you haven't proven it could work in Greece, but choosing somewhere colder you can't really disprove it, even if it doesn't work.

    69. Re:Favorites by Dastardly · · Score: 1

      Yes, despite their claims of "busting myths", that obviously is there to have a unique show idea, rather than to say everyone else is wrong.

      More importantly whether the myth is busted or not,there is usually really cool stuff that goes on. (aka. blowed up stuff)

    70. Re:Favorites by SoloFlyer2 · · Score: 1
      How can one hire Kari?
      Through her website of course http://www.karibyron.com/
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    71. Re:Favorites by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Sure it does. Real beer drinkers buy 15 gallon cans.

    72. Re:Favorites by xquark · · Score: 1

      I think it was even on one of Jonh Safran's shows too

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    73. Re:Favorites by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm quite the big fan of Yuengling myself. For the longest time they had no distribution in NYS. When that changed it literally took over. You'd be hard pressed to find an establishment that doesn't have it now and it's in virtually all the stores. The lager is the predominate variety around here -- but I'm also very big on the Black and Tan and Porter.

      I've also become rather fond of Smithwicks lately. It's rather expensive ($8 for a six pack) and it might not be distributed where you are -- but pick some up if you see it and give it a try. Like all real beer it's better on draft -- so jump at the chance if you get it. Guinness is also a favorite -- although I've never quite been able to stomach the bottled or canned kind.

      I have to say that the absolute best beer I have ever had in my life was Rare Vos from Ommegang, a local microbrewery near Cooperstown. I'm told it sells for over $40 a bottle (750ml) in the city. We usually get a free case or two because friends of ours know the owners and we always volunteer to work the Belgian Beer Festival that they hold every year. If you ever grace these parts make sure you find the time to stop up there. Ithaca Brewing is also a good bet.

      I think the biggest loss from prohibition was the destruction of the American microbreweries. Here's hoping they make a real come back.

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    74. Re:Favorites by lkeagle · · Score: 1

      I'll have to disagree. I grew up in San Francisco, and can promise that the Bay is a thermal sink of grand proportions. Not only do I fail to believe that they actually had sunlight, I fail to believe that Greece's waters will produce the level of hypothermia of the San Francisco Bay. I understand that they are trying to burn the part of the ship out of water, but the temperatures of the bay will make it practically impossible to provide the flux necessary to create flame.

      I'm curious as to what the MIT guys had to say about their circumstances. Does anyone have a link to their response as to why they couldn't recreate their experiment in the Bay?

    75. Re:Favorites by loddington · · Score: 1

      Murdoch always used a stainless steel Ruger Mini 14. Still you make a good point.

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    76. Re:Favorites by kesuki · · Score: 1

      ahh wikipidia is wrong again, the primary method of lauching greek fire was through slings and catapults, although an arrow or balista could easily be coated in it and ignighted upon being fired. the 'flame thrower' version was a novel and innovative way of using greek fire as a more terrifying weapon.

      but it probably wasn't around in time for that battle.. unless the greek were keeping such a military weapon a secret, for 4 hundred years before someone else let the cat out of the bag claiming to be it's inventor ;)

    77. Re:Favorites by Sanksa+Wott · · Score: 1

      The alternative to adding salt to the water, iirc, was using the nearest handy fire extinguisher. Pretty sure that doesnt fall under the "practical" approach to beer chillage.

    78. Re:Favorites by Stele · · Score: 3, Funny

      How about the "size doesn't matter" myth?

    79. Re:Favorites by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      All the Ommegangs are good, but you shouldn't be paying more than five or six bucks a bottle for any of them -- maybe a little more if you're far from the Northeast. Anyone charging $40 for Rare Vos is a criminal or a hotel minifridge, or both.

    80. Re:Favorites by jazir1979 · · Score: 1

      "Curiosity! do-do-de-dooo"

      Oh how I miss that.

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    81. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to tell you this but Newcastle is the Budweiser of dark beers...

    82. Re:Favorites by Hast · · Score: 1

      It was a really really big anti armour sniper rifle. I imagine it would do squat against a tank.

      FYI a real anti tank RPG works by having a core of eg copper. At impact this core is heated and forced into the point of impact by the cone shaped mantle. The result is a "spear" of molten copper which can penetrate the tanks armour and enter the tank. (The actual entry hole is quite small though.) After it enters the tank it will scatter and quite probably significantly burn personell at the same time as it creates a significant over preassure inside the tank. This preassure causes the atmosphere inside the tank to explode out creating a under preassure which afterwards leads to implosion as preassures stabilise.

      Basically if you're in a tank that's hit you're screwed.

    83. Re:Favorites by Hast · · Score: 1

      I think that's more a topic for Penn&Teller's Bullshit. And they've already done it.

      They were not impressed.

    84. Re:Favorites by Hast · · Score: 1
      In this case the myth was that Arcamedies had an army of soliders with highly polished shields. On command the soliders directed the sunlight at the advancing ships. And burned to dust an entire fleet. No not one boat, but an entire advancing fleet.

      Well, turning one ship on fire at a time would work as well.

      I think if you were sitting in a ship about to go to war and all of a sudden there's a flash of light from the city walls you are about to invade, and the ship next to you is set ablase. I don't know about you but that would freak me out.

      In fact I can't even remember that even they claimed that the entire fleet was turned to dust in a single second. I think the original myth is more along the lines of "roman fleet being scared away" or "invasion stopped" or something along those lines. (Or it may be even more accurte to say that the myth is that Arcimedes created a "weapon" that could focus the sun and turn ships on fire from a distance.)

      What sucks the most about this (IMHO) is that the myth has been confirmed, in Greece, with polished shields and about 500 people. This was demonstrated in the BBC program What the ancients did for us. (If anyone can find that program I'd like to see it though. It seems hard to find references to the experiment online.)
    85. Re:Favorites by Destoo · · Score: 1

      Pssst! The wedge of lime is used seal the bottle to prevent bugs and things from getting inside your drink, not to press on it and plop it inside!

      Stupid tourists..

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    86. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're taking the show a bit too seriously, given their primary objective is to blow stuff up, not to 'do science'. And considering they're usually dealing with urban legends in which the details vary wildly with the telling, I can't see that they're wrong to adjust it to their needs.

      One episode, for example, dealt with the story of someone being electrocuted by urinating on a subway line. On The first attempt they assumed dry conditions, but when that failed they decided it must have been raining, and soaked everything with water. Still didn't work, so they kept on with more changes until they fried the dummy.

    87. Re:Favorites by Louis+Guerin · · Score: 1

      :::Do they ever plan to build and test a Tesla death ray? Oh please, oh please!!!:::

      Then figure out how to tunnel its effect over TCP/IP. Instant quadrizillionaire.

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    88. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 1

      They're not cagy. They rushed to cognitive closure.

      If I wanted to set a sail on fire, I'd furl it, too.

      Then it would present a stable surface and be in a bundle that would maintain a flame better.

    89. Re:Favorites by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Look up insolation, and lose the insolence.

      Nobody loves an ignorant troll.

    90. Re:Favorites by Engie_Viral · · Score: 1

      Are there any myths that you will not attempt to bust? If so, are the resons personal, political or technical (including safety)? Love the show by the way, pretty much everyone I talk to seem to as well.

    91. Re:Favorites by AnotherBrian · · Score: 1

      Disregarding whether or not Greek people actually set fire to ships, they may have just used the mirrors to blind/disrupt the enemy. Then shot plain old flaming arrows at the ships. Imagine if an enemy fleet is sailing into a bay. You could station groups of 20-30 soldiers 500-1000 ft around the entire bay at water level. The enemy would have to sail into the intense light. That might screw up your aim. The reflector groups could also create a nice irritating and distracting strobe effect. Anyone watching the battle could definatly think that the mirrors set the ships on fire when it was actually the flaming arrows.

    92. Re:Favorites by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      All the Ommegangs are good, but you shouldn't be paying more than five or six bucks a bottle for any of them -- maybe a little more if you're far from the Northeast. Anyone charging $40 for Rare Vos is a criminal or a hotel minifridge, or both.

      I would assume the $40.00 is in a restaurant/bar type setting. That's a bit high on the markup scale but not completely out of line for the hospitality business. How else do you explain $15 bottles of wine that sell for $60 just because you ordered it with dinner?

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    93. Re:Favorites by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1
      It is impossible to prove a negative.

      I disagree. I assume you specifically mean that you can't prove the non-existence of a physical object, right? Perhaps you mean something more specific than what you stated.

      Consider this counter-example, which I think you'll aggree can be proven: "No object that is both a square and not a square, at the same time and in the same way, exists."

      You may feel that such a statement is trivially obvious, but it at least demonstrates that the extreme interpretation of your claim about proofs doesn't seem right. I suggest we dig a little deeper to get at what you're trying to say.

    94. Re:Favorites by bataras · · Score: 1

      That just means "no object that is not an object exists". It cancels out.

    95. Re:Favorites by kesuki · · Score: 1

      you actually got me thinking there, what if instead of 'just' reflecting the heat of the sun, a large bonfire was built in a pit near where the array of mirrors were, aligned in such a way that the mirrors could reflect the heat of the fire and the light of the sun at the target simultaneously. bronse isn't as effective as mirror polished silver, but with two sources of radiation to focus the likelyhood of causing the target to catch on fire would increase but then you'd have to align the mirrors very precisely, because you'd want to align the intersection point of two sources of radiant light to a single convergance point using hundreds of polished shield/mirrors. also, if 100 mirrors in the array wasn't enough why not try 1000 or 10,0000? even if it's harder to get 10,000 people to align on the same target, you have a far greater margin of error if say only 1/2 of them can manage to point at the same ship at the same time..or course that may not be fitting into historical accuracy, but i'm just saying, if you're trying to recreate something that works to instantly fry a ship made of ancient ship materials, why not keep going until you figure out at what point it becomes feasible and 'realistic' to have such a terror weapon that can sink a fleet of ships while they're still out of bow range.

    96. Re:Favorites by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Fortunately we can watch it in Australia without commercials. SBS has its commercials in between each show, so you can avoid them completely by switching back to the ABC for 5 or 10 minutes, or doing something in another room.

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    97. Re:Favorites by Destoo · · Score: 1

      I'd really like to see them try to bust the FSM.

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    98. Re:Favorites by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      Did you see Rob Morrison and Dean Hutton present the award on The New Inventors the other night? Just after my post above. :)

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    99. Re:Favorites by jazir1979 · · Score: 1


      aww man... i didn't, i had the new inventors on but my other half called me while it was on (doh!) and i missed most of it.

      who won?

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    100. Re:Favorites by uberdave · · Score: 1

      It's an hour show where you are. Other places, it's a half hour show. It was designed to be cut and spliced, and (most importantly to advertisers) attract channel surfers who might blunder into the show midway through. Junkyard Wars did the same thing.

    101. Re:Favorites by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      It's all on the website:

      http://abc.net.au/newinventors/

      The tyre recycling system won it.

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    102. Re:Favorites by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      If you're ever in seattle, try out the pyramid brewery - they have a range of beers, and my current favorite is the hefeweizen.

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    103. Re:Favorites by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      How else do you explain $15 bottles of wine that sell for $60 just because you ordered it with dinner?

      I was amused when I saw Charles Shaw wine at a restaurant in NYC for $25 a bottle. In case you don't know, Charles Shaw is also known as "Two Buck Chuck" because it's only $1.99 a bottle (except in NJ where it's $2.99).

    104. Re:Favorites by wfberg · · Score: 1

      It is impossible to prove a negative.

      I disagree. I assume you specifically mean that you can't prove the non-existence of a physical object, right? Perhaps you mean something more specific than what you stated.


      No he doesn't. It is impossible to prove a negative. It's a basic tenet of science. You can't prove a drug is safe (i.e. has no ill effect - a negative) but you can prove it is effective against for example cancer (i.e. it was found to kill cancer cells in a significant amount of trials - a positive). Anything you do not observe, or deduce, might just be because of your faulty observations or deductions. But, if you observe something, you might be on to something. If it's repeatable, odds are your experiments bear some predictive weight towards future situations.

      This also holds for theoretical work (deductions, proofs); there might always be some axiom you overlooked.

      There's a reason why in criminal trials you have to prove guilt, not innocence. Innocence is a negative, and as such, it can't be proven.

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    105. Re:Favorites by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I dunno what gun they used, because I don't watch much TV, but a .50 cal sniper rifle is the smallest size in which you can get HE, Incendiary, or HE-I rounds. HE rounds will damage all but the most badass tanks' armor, and will damage any tank's treads if you get a good hit.

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    106. Re:Favorites by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Those students think that the sails would definitely be furled in battle. That's not necessarily true, especially if you were moving at speed...

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    107. Re:Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry for the late (and anonymous) post... but as I'm taking Discrete Mathematics and doing all kinds of logic proofs this semester, I figured I should interject.

      Logically, the negation of a universal statement is an existential statement (There is no spoon! Here's a spoon, so you're wrong.), and the negation of an existential statement is a universal statement (There is a man-eating shark with a laser beam attached to its head in this tank of water. Nowhere in the tank of water is there a shark with a laser beam attached to its head, so you're wrong.)

      You can't prove a universal statement with any number of examples, which means you can't disprove the existence of something with examples. Scientific experiments and Mythbusting in particular are in the business of showing examples, so as far as we're concerned the statement holds. You can't fail to, say, make a cold fusion generator and then simply say it therefore can't be done, as that would be trying to prove a negative. It's easy to fall into the trap of saying "I've worked for years and tried everything, so it can't be done;" this is a perfectly valid reason to stop trying, but it doesn't at all prove it can't be done.

      Proving a universal, since it can't be done by example, has to be done by logic and rules of inference. Your example can be proven logically, as something cannot both have a quality and not have it at the same time in the same way However, no matter how many items you show which are either square or not square but not both, you haven't proven it.

      It is noteworthy that you also can't prove universal scientific and mathematical theorems by example for the same reason. They're considered valid as long as nobody is capable of disproving them or disproving any of their premeses.

    108. Re:Favorites by Remedy_man · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you read the story. They weren't moving at speed, the ships had been brought to the limit of bow range, and were holding at that distance, so most likely, the sails were furled as anything else would move the ships more than would have been desired.

    109. Re:Favorites by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Right, but if you hold still, then they might be able to set your hull on fire, so you want to move faster, so you unfurl your sails... well, if you have problems with cause and effect anyway.

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    110. Re:Favorites by Remedy_man · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact that who in their right mind would think that they would sink your boat from hundreds of meters away with a shiny light. It would be a completely unexpected tactic, which is the best kind.

  2. Vegie by markyland · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you were a vegetable, which one would you be and why?

    1. Re:Vegie by ShaneThePain · · Score: 0

      an onion. layers!

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  3. Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by bobertfishbone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you ever been completely blown away by what you've found? Has there been an experiment where you two just sit back and say "Huh...who woulda thought?" Most of the myths are pretty easy to debunk, but I'm just curious as to whether or not there was actually one that you guys did that totally shocked you in being true.

    1. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this question. Has there been a myth that you thought would be completely false, only to have to look at the results of your experiments with shocked and puzzled looks on your faces?

    2. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by wikiwa · · Score: 0

      The episode last week with the Tail-Gate up or down myth puzzled them and gave bewildering results. Turns out you get better mileage while driving with the tailgate up in a pickup truck as opposed to down.

    3. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by kimvette · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually I figured that years ago - the reason is: would a corporation seeking to avoid CAFE levees design the aerodynamics of a truck to divert airflow in such a way that fuel economy will be fine when the tailgate is closed, or would they design the aerodynamics without taking the tailgate into account, causing customers to leave the tailgate open and let it bounce (and eventually come off on some bumpy road because the safety cables or levers are usually fairly flimsy)?

      Of course they assume a closed tailgate (since they recommend never leaving it open) and want to do anything they can to avoid lowering their corporate average fuel economy rating (CAFE) when they design the vehicle, then they can avoid the $600-or-so per-vehicle fine because they've sought to keep their average fuel economy up.

      Also: if they didn't take the tailgate into account when designing the truck, performance would absolutely suck on the highway. Hell, I've noticed the slight drag from the pop-up headlights on my ZR-1 (Corvette) at extreme speeds, and the drag from the aerodynamic popup headlights is minimal compared to the effects introduced by a large rectangular sail on a truck would be if the engineers didn't take it into account during the design and windtunnel testing process.

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    4. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      One relatd question I would like to see answered, is what or has there been myths confirmed, that didn't really have a good explaination as to why? I can think of one early one...

      The get out of Mexican Jail myth using electric current and salsa. I couldn't believe this worked better than all the rest, and to such a degree. But why the hell did it work in the first place, other than to say that the electricity combined with the salsa to eat away the metal bar...

    5. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Chr0nik · · Score: 0

      They explained it fairly clearly, the salsa was chocked full of electrolytic goodness. As I remember it, it took a lot of tweaking, and even then it took a really long time. The final result was plausible, not confirmed, due to the fact that it would be improbable to hide all of your mad scientist gear for any length of time.

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    6. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Well, shows that come to mind even without their personal answer is the Escape from Alcatraz and Salsa Escape shows, where I think their Alcatraz escape went better than believed (they thought it was really cool), and in the salsa escape episode they were also surprised and thought it could even have effects in real world safety procedures.

      Not sure about the episode where they fired guns into water, but that was a pretty amazing one for me. :) (be 1-2 meters under water surface or so, and barely any gun they fired at a 30 degree angle, even illegal ones with huge calibers, could harm you according to their tests)

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    7. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Even more suprising was that it was especially illegal guns with high calliburs.

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    8. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another goodie that I think may have surprised them was the toothbrush in the bathroom myth. I forget the actual myth but they had 5 toothbrushes, a couple being used, one in a container, and I forget the other. They were looking for bacteria and how harmful it may be.

    9. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Which of the guns were "illegal"?

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    10. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 1

      The .50 cal monster. I think they said you needed a special license to own one or something.

    11. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      They used, IIRC, an AK variant (legal), an AR-15 variant (legal), and a .50cal BMG rifle (legal).

      Individual states may not sell them anymore, but I know of one person who owns two AK and one AR variant, and we both lusted over various BMG rifles until the wonderful state of California saw fit to ban them.

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    12. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      There was an episode where they shot various guns into a pool of water to see at what depth it would pierce skin (they used a gel substance). They were kind of surprised that the high powered rifle (i forget it's name, but it is the most powerful rifle out there) didn't penetrate skin while some of the low powered hand guns did.

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    13. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Moofie · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe in California. In America, they're perfectly legal.

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    14. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All that just to mention your corvette yet AGAIN.

    15. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, remember you're talking about California.

      Among other things, they used a .50 cal, which I don't remember them specifically saying was illegal in California[1]. It was amazing how the bullet disintegrated in the water -- not what I expected

      Another show they had to get a friend from the FBI to supply tracer rounds because they were 'illegal' in California.

      [1]according to http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/vie wstate.php?st=ca


      California - State law restricts the sale of all semiautomatic assault weapons that have specific military features such as pistol grips and folding stocks as well as a list of assault weapons and their copies such as the AK47 and Uzi. People who owned such assault weapons prior to the law are required to register the weapons and may not sell or give them to anyone else in the state. State law also restricts the sale of rapid-fire ammunition magazines in excess of 10 rounds.

      California - State law restricts the sale of Saturday night specials or "junk" handguns. Handguns must meet two basic safety tests: a drop-safety test and a firing-performance test to prevent accidents. The drop-safety test ensures that handguns won't go off if dropped. The firing-performance test makes sure that handguns won't break apart with repeated use. But there is no restriction on the sale of small, snub-nosed handguns if they meet the two safety tests. In 2002, California strengthened the law to allow the state Department of Justice to "spot-check" handguns on sale in gun stores to make sure they met the standard and to increase DOJ oversight of the safety test procedures. Also see: Safety Standards.

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    16. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by ldspartan · · Score: 1

      Yes, except it was shot in CA. Thus, the guns were illegal.

      Having heard the mythbusters speak and asked them some questions, they're good friends with the police and the FBI. If you want to do something illegal, get a cop to watch.

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    17. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      I've never seen the show. Did they do any testing to see what kind of concussive force was transferred to the the gel-'person' by the water when the extremely large caliber guns were fired at them?

    18. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      They measured the penetration. What they found, however, the big boy guns round would shatter upon contact in the water. It would never even make it to the target. The found if someone was shooting at someone else in the water at an angle, the person being shot at only needed to be about four feet under water. If the shot was fired at a direct 90 degree angle (straight on top of the target) then the swimmer had to go much deeper.

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    19. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Actually I don't remember mentioning it on here before, coward, aside from my profile.

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    20. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly certain that the pickup truck came along well before they were able to test and engineer aerodynamics to that level, if at all.

      The flat beds in pickup trucks haven't exactly changed since the original designs.

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    21. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      We both live in California. If you legally owned them prior to the ban, they're grandfathered in.

      Learn something about the law before you spout off.

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    22. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      "Maybe in California. In America, they're perfectly legal"

      So essentially, California has figuratively broken off into the Pacific Ocean in advance of physically doing so.

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    23. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Moofie · · Score: 1

      I think that many Californians and many Americans would agree with you.

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    24. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by bedroll · · Score: 1
      Some of the newer trucks are designed with aerodynamics in mind. However, that was not the original intention of the pickup design and it's something that's product of more modern aerodynamics testing. Obviously the tailgate was originally added for function much more than form.

      As for CAFE... They don't tend to worry about their big trucks very much, so long as they can put out smaller fuel efficient trucks. Remember that light trucks are a separate CAFE category, and the average fuel economy need only be just over 20mpg for the fleet. Of course, that's easy to accomplish, even if your fleet is full of vehicles that only manage 13-18mpg. All you do is put in a small or compact SUV underpowered by a 4c motor.

      Take a look at this. It's the 2003 Annual Update for the Fuel Economy program. Notice how the import light trucks economy has slipped to be in-line with the domestic trucks? That's not because the importers have gotten sloppy with their engines, or that the domestics have improved their's so greatly. No, it's because the importers started with smaller (more import friendly) vehicles and slowly started importing larger and less fuel efficient vehicles. Meanwhile, the gas mileage on your average full size pickup isn't that much greater than in '78. Nope, it's just being offset by manufacturers offering more compact, small, and mid sized trucks with 6c and 4c engines.

      My critique of the show is that they only tested one model of pickup. Even their scale models that were tested in the water with oatmeal were only one type of truck, the same type as in their practical test. This may be a minor problem, except they were using a crew cab with a short bed. The myth that you get better mileage with the tailgate down is surely older than the advent and/or popularization of the crew cab pickup. If they were to test with a full bed, full size pickup then they may see different results.

    25. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by virg_mattes · · Score: 1

      > I'm fairly certain that the pickup truck came along well before they were able to test and engineer aerodynamics to that level, if at all. The flat beds in pickup trucks haven't exactly changed since the original designs.

      Two mistakes. First, most pickup trucks have box beds, not flat beds, and second, the design of the cab determines the airflow pattern over the whole vehicle, not the bed. Cab designs are radically different from years ago.

      Virg

    26. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Yes, quite.

      That still doesn't explain the magic statement that pickup trucks were originally designed to take this into account, specifically to a point of making them more aerodynamic with the tailgate up than down.

      Of course they have addressed this since, but the statement I was countering implied that this was a design concideration taken into account at the inception of the pickup truck itself, which it most certainly was NOT.

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    27. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by th3space · · Score: 1

      Not to flame here, but your nick is kimvette...

      Admittedly, I don't recall having ever seen you make mention of any specific vehicle, but I also haven't taken care to read all of your comments. shrug

      *emphasis is my own*

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    28. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by ldspartan · · Score: 1

      Yeah yeah, too much posting and too little caffeine. My least humble apologies.

    29. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I wish that were true.. unfortunately they're the "trendsetters" on a huge percent of legislation that ends up getting passed by other states. None of the good laws, mind you; just the laws that keep people from smoking in a drinking establishment.. stuff like that.

    30. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Dastardly · · Score: 1

      First, most pickup trucks have box beds, not flat beds, and second, the design of the cab determines the airflow pattern over the whole vehicle, not the bed.

      I have to disagree here. The rear of a vehicle has a huge impact on the aerodynamics. A round blunt front with a pointy back end is the ideal aerodynamic shape i.e. teardrop. It is most important to bring the air together smoothly at the rear than it is to split it smoothly at the front (subsonic). Real world examples... Airplanes, bicycle farings, Prius. Knowing this take a look at a lot of cars, and note how many would be more aerodynamic driven backwards.

      That is not to say the front is irrelevant, just that the back has much more relvance than you ascribe to it. Oh and the tailgate up is perfectly reasonable. It is a two steps to the point at the rear is smoother than one step.

    31. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 1

      The show they did on the various "Put X in the gas tank to kill the motor" myths was one of those "Huh? Who'd a thunk it." shows.

      Sugar in the tank ... nothing.
      Bleach in the tank ... runs a little rougher the first day, and the rust from the tank plays havoc on the motor the next day.
      Moth balls in the tank ... makes it run better.

      But the one that nobody figured on was that cracking an egg into a leaking radiator will plug the leak.

    32. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is legal to own one under those circumstances, but otherwise illegal to obtain one once the law went into effect.

      As you allude to, if you already owned one, you merely needed to register in order to continue to posess it lawfully once the ban went into effect.

      As I've posted elswhere:

      State law restricts the sale of all semiautomatic assault weapons that have specific military features such as pistol grips and folding stocks as well as a list of assault weapons and their copies such as the AK47 and Uzi. People who owned such assault weapons prior to the law are required to register the weapons and may not sell or give them to anyone else in the state. State law also restricts the sale of rapid-fire ammunition magazines in excess of 10 rounds.

      That's the problem then for the mythbusters -- they didn't already own one and so it was illegal for them to obtain one. They had to go to someone who already had one and "borrow" it for the episode.

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    33. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      As long as the owners were there, they were legally using it. I seem to recall that they had law enforcement there overseeing things as well. The show goes to great pains to make sure that everything is done legally and above-board.

      I'm not sure when that show was filmed, but I seem to recall seeing it early enough that it would have been legal for them to buy a .50BMG rifle. However, spending $5000 to $10,000 to use it on the show for only a few rounds would probably have annoyed the show's accountants, who seem to be happy keeping the strings tightly bound.

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    34. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by surprise_audit · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Another show they had to get a friend from the FBI to supply tracer rounds because they were 'illegal' in California.

      I was really surprised by the explanation given as to how the tracer rounds work. Phosphorus tips that ignite due to air friction?? Where did that come from?? When I was in school, the quartermaster in our Cadet Force took apart some tracer rounds to show us how they work. From the outside, they look like regular rounds, but once you pull the bullet from the casing you see that it's a bit longer than a normal bullet. The extra length is a hollow space that's filled with some kind of magnesium compound. When fired, the burning cordite sets fire to it.

      The net effect is that the shooter sees the bright magnesium flare at the back of the bullet, rather than the target seeing a burning tip getting bigger. That's not to say that the target wouldn't see the flare anyway, but tracer is mostly used for the shooter's benefit, not to terrify the target...

    35. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Yes, but pistol, shotgun and civil war gun (the lower penetrating power weapons) were the most effective. The stronger more powerful guns were worse.

      Of course I would have liked to see a retest of the guns shot vertically, but it was still very suprising to see the bullets literally shatter on impact with the water.

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    36. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >0.50 caliber ... great fun
      >Maybe in California. In America, they're perfectly legal.

      Anything .50 and beyond is federally classified as a "destructive weapon" and banned. Since the 2nd amendment is not (yet) protected under the 14th amendment umbrella per SCOTUS, you practically cannot buy such a thing.

      Some US states pretend, however, that .50 is not included in the ban, only .050000000001" and higher caliber. Hence the confusion in the USA.

      However there is no way you, private person, can buy a 14.5mm soviet anti-tank rifle today in the USA, which is only slightly larger than .50" (12.7mm) but 1.5x more powerful.

    37. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by virg_mattes · · Score: 1

      Point not conceded. He didn't say "originally", nor did he ever comment on anything other than how designers work now. He made no comment that indicated that "design the truck" (his quote) translates in any meaningful way to "design the first pickup truck", so your point requires overreaching his statement.
      Virg

    38. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      The myth was about the effect, in general, of having the tail gate up when driving, or having the tail gate down when driving.

      Tail gates have been on pickups since their inception. When talking about pickups _in general_, you're talking about a vehicle design that was created long before this level of engineering was done.

      I have little doubt that a lot of newer pickups do indeed have cabs designed to aleviate these effects. But there are still one heck of a lot of the standard old F150 style pickup around, so if we're talking pickups, we mustn't single out a few new styles that bear little resemblance to their ancestors.

      We're both right, it's just a matter of perspective.

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    39. Re:Your show is great fun to watch and all, but... by Stormy+Henderson · · Score: 1

      I can answer that even without a mythbusting license...equal and opposite reaction. The concussive force couldn't be any worse than the kick from the gun, and therefore of no concern whatsoever.

  4. Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by richdun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With an unlimited budget, what "myth" would you most like to test? How about using 1960s technology to try and land on the moon?

    1. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by broggyr · · Score: 1

      I like this one. Even though the 'evidence' shown by doubters (it's now fasionable to doubt the moon landing) has been falsified, it's still a rampant rumor.
      Too bad those people who still think it happened will be labeled 'sheep' by the doubters.
      I, for one, think it truly happened (I was born 3 months before the last landing). It would take too much effort and cash to simply fake it realistically enough...

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    2. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 5, Funny
      How about trying to find the WMDs in Iraq.

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    3. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How about trying to prove that slashdoters actualy have gone on a date?

    4. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Hooptie · · Score: 0, Redundant
      With an unlimited budget, they could just fake the moon landings like NASA did.

      Hooptie

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    5. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Naikrovek · · Score: 1

      anyone who thinks that the moon landings were faked is making themselves look like an idiot in the same manner that those who forward chain emails to save their yahoo account from deletion look like idiots. same goes for those of you that think cow-tipping is real. you're all just the punchline in someone's joke.

      why don't you actually try and find out the facts on your own instead of believing everything you read on the internet?

    6. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by richdun · · Score: 1

      Find out the facts? Ha! Not believing everything I read on /.? Ha! Cow-tipping? Ha! I've tried all three, and none of them seem to be good ideas.

    7. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Where is a good resource that that doubting is falsified?

      I tried to find some and the more convincing things bits of no landing evindence were never mentioned (the crosses being obscured, and shadows in the wrong directions. The NASA site mentions some straw man arguments that noone I know even had heard before, which unfortunatly only gives credibility to the doubters, and certainly does not help NASA.

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    8. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If by cow tipping you're referring to: the practice of sneaking up to a sleeping bovine, and giving them a firm shove thus making it fall over sideways.

      You've obviously never tried it before.

    9. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by daVinci1980 · · Score: 1

      I'm totally with you on the first two...

      But I've actually *been* cowtipping. Me. And friends of mine. My mom has a farm, there are cows in the pasture, they doze while standing and with 2-3 guys, you can tip them over. I've seen the article that 'disproves' cowtipping, but frankly, it doesn't agree with my experience.

      Nor does it agree with my girlfriend's experience, who has also been on successful cow-tipping excursions.

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    10. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by theCoder · · Score: 1

      I like the show, but I think the Mythbusters would be more likely to bust the "myth" that we landed on the moon. And they'd base this conclusion on the fact that their rocket wasn't able to do it; therefore, it was impossible.

      They're very good at working with "what if" myths ("what if I'm in a falling elevator and jump up at the last second to try to save my self?") but not very good at "did X happen" myths. Of course, it is a lot harder to disprove something didn't happen then to say it's not very likely too happen.

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    11. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You'll find them under Saddam's Disneyland resort where all the Iraqi children used to play in happiness before the evil US destroyed it with their imperialism.

    12. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by mccdyl001 · · Score: 1

      Hell, these guys seems to have even found an urban version of cow tipping... something you city slickers could try out and let us know about. And heck, its in colour *and* on the internet, so dag nabbit it must be true.

    13. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by tdemark · · Score: 1

      I think this is what you are looking for.

    14. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by halltk1983 · · Score: 1
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    15. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    16. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Robber+Baron · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So were those deaths caused by Saddam or by the Bushes?

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    17. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice job trying to change the subject.

      It must really burn your ass that those WMD's never showed up.

    18. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by eheldreth · · Score: 1

      I believe this was answered in 2003 by David Kay http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/200 3/david_kay_10022003.html

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    19. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by arose · · Score: 1

      How in the world is "crosses being obscured" convincing? How stupid does one need to be to think that someone would set up physical crosses in the set to simulate crosshairs etched into the camera?

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    20. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by arose · · Score: 1

      It might be more fun to try to build a set where all the "anomalies" happen, it might be cheaper to go to the moon though.

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    21. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      While in essence you are correct, I feel that the MythBusters go to great lengths in these cases to explain that their failure to replicate some myth does NOT mean the myth is busted, only that they were unable to confirm it. They also do not do very many of that kind of myth, because they realize that it can be very hard to absolutely disprove the possiblility of something happening.

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    22. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Cophee · · Score: 1

      What, harder than actually landing on the moon????

    23. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      I would have to say that out of the some 40,000 pictures that were taken throughout all the Appolo missions that there would be a few with trick shadows and lighting. If NASA can take that many pictures and only have 10-15 of them come up as weird when fakeing a moon landing then they did pretty damn good. Hell real movie producers cant get any where near that close.

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    24. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by jtorkbob · · Score: 1

      How about this? http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html Don't pretend it didn't happen.

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    25. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good evidence that we truly never landed on the moon can be found here. Irrefutable if you ask me.

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    26. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by Browncoat · · Score: 1

      Awesome web site, thanks for the info. At least he got feedback from people from the program he was debunking.

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    27. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by zigleft · · Score: 1
    28. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      Probably the same sort of people who propose that the incorrect airplanes were flew into the WTC. Or even a missile with a holographic projector.

      Despite there being no motive for that at all.

      If you're some super-secret black-ops guy, are you going to a) sneak explosives onto the plane, gas everyone, rig the controls to fly into the WTC, and bail out, or b) hijack the airplane, fly it elsewhere hoping no air-traffic controller sees you, kill everyone, dismantle it, fly a hi-tech missle into the WTC with explosives, and carry the dead bodies and the wreckage to the site?

      If you answered b, you are offically a wackjob.

      It's the same thing with the Kennedy assassination. There are a lot of crazy people going on and on about the 'Magic Bullet' when that's been explained, and ignoring the fact it does look like a government conspiracy. But, and this is a point that many people seem to miss, the easiest government conspiracy would, you know, have a single shooter from an obvious point.

      Honestly, people. Before coming up with crazy 'evidence' that something is a fake, spend at least ten seconds thinking: Why would this be faked in this way?

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    29. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      Hey, the picture of astronauts driving around without the helmets isn't fake!

      Also, there is grass and clouds on the moon!

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    30. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by arose · · Score: 1

      Obviously common sense and Occam's Razor are just goverment coverups.

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    31. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by broggyr · · Score: 1

      Now THAT was funny! :D

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    32. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by halltk1983 · · Score: 1

      Not really. Just cause my friend flushed his pot down the toilet while his house was being raided and the cops didn't find it doesn't mean he didn't have it. The same thing could've happened with the WMD. Oh, and they did find all the preparation in place. And ballistic chemical warheads, just waiting to be filled. You just won't hear about it on the news. Do I think that Bush is doing the right thing? Yes. Do I think it could be done better? Yes, just hand control of the action away from the politicians into the hands of the Marine Corps. It'd be done by now. And we wouldn't have to worry a Kaddafi, either. I'm all for world peace, but not at the cost of the freedom for fellow humans. I value the freedoms of others as highly as I do my own, which is why I write monthly letters to my Congresscritters telling them not to pass various things coming up for vote the infringe upon my rights. When they do, I vote against them the next time. That's the way things work. And the day they try to peel ANY of the bill of rights away is the day I protect myself by organizing demonstrations of whatever caliber necessary. As should any man. But for those less forunate, I think 2000 soldiers lives is a small price to pay for the freedom of millions, and safety of all of us. As for the live and let live policy, we tried that, and had 8 attacks against us during Clinton's era. It didn't work, not because we were opressing them, but because our WAY OF LIFE offends them. And I'm not going to change that. Because I don't have to. And they CANNOT make me.

      BTW, the pic was of one of the hundreds of mass graves in Iraq filled during Saddam's regime, and the primary reason we went to Iraq, if you actually go back and listen to the original speech Bush gave on going into Iraq and why we needed to do it.

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    33. Re:Houston, we have a busted/confirmed myth by yakkowakkodot · · Score: 1

      Myth:
      Can a moon landing be faked?
      Answer:
      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/kayoteq/far k7/moonieg.jpg

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  5. Limited supply? by CvD · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Do you think you'll ever run out of myths to test?

    BTW love the show, keep up the good work!

    1. Re:Limited supply? by rumblin'rabbit · · Score: 1
      Not really my place to answer for these guys, but...

      That would require our society to run out of bullshit. Current levels appear adequate to satisfy "mythBusters" needs for a very long time.

    2. Re:Limited supply? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      do you ever plan on trying to tip a cow? hyneman seems like a big scrappy guy, if he can't do it, then i know i can't. also, kari is very hot and should be on the show more.

  6. Favorite myth types by Sinryc · · Score: 1

    Ever since your episode whjere you see if peoples voice can break glass with just their voices, do yall ever just do that for fun?

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  7. Myths that didn't make it. by skywalker107 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What Myths have you tested that have never made it on the show? What about them made you and the producers decide they didn't qualify to go on the air?

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    1. Re:Myths that didn't make it. by DMC_DMC_DMC · · Score: 2, Informative

      See here for some myths that didnt make it. Mythbuster video galleries

    2. Re:Myths that didn't make it. by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Eh? Odd. All those myths have indeed appeared in shows.
      Possibly it's just additional footage that never made it in?

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  8. Most Challenging Myth by Winterblink · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What has been your most challenging myth to bust? And is there a particular myth you feel would be a challenging one to try taking on?

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    1. Re:Most Challenging Myth by iangreen · · Score: 1

      Why did they 'disprove' 'Free Energy' by constructing a Bedini motor WITHOUT THE MAGNETS ON THE FLYWHEEL?

      http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Mythbusters _Dec.2004

    2. Re:Most Challenging Myth by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      That would be the myth about the frozen turkeys and testing British Rail's new high speed locomotive windshields.

      They tested the myth no less than 3 times, before finally concluding that it was indeed plausible. Adam was at the end of his rope with that one.

      Of course, you need to watch the show to know that...

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  9. Injuries by jacksonai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the worst injury anyone sustained while trying to bust a myth?

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    1. Re:Injuries by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      One of the lesser-known assistants had some molten candy explode on her face...that's got to take the cake.

    2. Re:Injuries by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On a related note...

      Are there any myths that you would like to attempt to prove/disprove, but the risk involved is too great? Specifically, are there any scenarios that you can build sufficient saftey measures around that would allow you to test?

      (Love your show, keep up the good work. One of the few things worth watching on Discovery anymore...)

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    3. Re:Injuries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Myth: A human's blood will boil from the inside if exposed to the vacuum of space.

    4. Re:Injuries by 'nother+poster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Been done. NASA did it with vacuum chambers in the 1950's. Well, actually, as I remember it they didn't use whole humans, just some appendages. Hands and arms I believe. There have been a few vacuum accidents while testing space suits and such. The victims claimed they felt their saliva boiling before they passed out.

    5. Re:Injuries by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      oh, that's right---

      my question is what happened to Scotty and that other one?

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    6. Re:Injuries by CRC'99 · · Score: 1

      What about when Adam got his lip eaten by the vaccum cleaner motor - followed with the line "well, that was one of the most stupid things I've ever done".

      At least he admitted it - I had a great laugh at that.

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  10. Build Team by I_Strahd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can you please get rid of the build team segments? These segments are annoying and I fast forward throught them anyway. I would really enjoy more actual show. Thanks!

    1. Re:Build Team by I_Strahd · · Score: 0

      This mod is fucked up and definitely on topic. If they know that people hate this lame-o segment of the show, then maybe it could be a better show. It is mods like this that is making people turn from /. to other venues. Or did you miss that news story as well. It will probably show up sometime next year.

      Understand that you are only here because you have not been replaced with the next great thing.
      And yes /. was great.

    2. Re:Build Team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, what a bitter asshole!

    3. Re:Build Team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, please, PLEASE turn from Slashdot to other venues.

  11. busting myths mistakenly by selil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Have you all figured out yet that a Robin Hood (two arrows impacting the same spot) is actually possible? disgruntled archer.

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    1. Re:busting myths mistakenly by dafz1 · · Score: 1

      They did try this myth(at least the build team did).

      First they had real archers fire a large number of arrows at the same target, none of which "split" the target arrow(nor even hit it). Then they tried more controlled conditions(read: indoors), where they ended up putting a broadhead right at the nock(sp?) of another arrow, which led to partial splitting of the arrow(about 4 -6 inches long). The high-speed camera showed there is too much flex in the arrow shaft to get a clean split. Then they bundled a bunch togther, hoping the rigidity of the bundle would keep the target arrow stiff enough, which it didn't.

      Myth: Busted

    2. Re:busting myths mistakenly by ultranova · · Score: 1

      The high-speed camera showed there is too much flex in the arrow shaft to get a clean split. Then they bundled a bunch togther, hoping the rigidity of the bundle would keep the target arrow stiff enough, which it didn't.

      Myth: Busted

      Sorry, but no. That archer X is unable to split arrows with other arrows says nothing of archer Y's ability to do it. Remember, the arrow-splitting incident was supposed to demonstrate Robins mastery of archery, so obviously it can't be something that every Joe Archer could do at will. And I know from experience that, when chopping wood (which arrows in Robin Hoods time were made of) hitting it in the right spot in the right way is absolutely vital to get it to split easily.

      So no, this myth is not busted. The real (whatever that's supposed to mean here) archers in question couldn't do it; that does not prove that no one could do it.

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    3. Re:busting myths mistakenly by TheOrquithVagrant · · Score: 1

      Ehrm... I'm really surprised if they haven't been able to replicate this feat. There was a stage production of robin hood here in sweden some years back where the arrow-splitting trick was done live, each performance. "Point blank range" of course, and I don't remember how often it worked on first try or not, but I do remember the article saying that failing was the exception.

      On a side note, I once made a dart stick in the end of another dart. Purely blind luck; I'm not even a decent thrower.

      Another crazy act of blind-luck marksmanship that I've done was shooting a fly in flight with a bb-gun. The body disappeared, but both wings slowly spiralled towards the ground. My jaw got there before them, tho.

    4. Re:busting myths mistakenly by WiFiBro · · Score: 1

      He DID it, i SAW it in the MOVIE.
      That's why Robin Hood is a HERO!

    5. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recently saw a 'funiest videos' type show (not sure what the actual show was) where someone actually did stick an arrow into the end of another, it didnt split the arrow, but it was definitely stuck into it. And it wasnt at point blank range, it was like across a good sized city back yard (say 50 feet minimum). The full action of the arrow being shot and sticking was on the tape so it was certainly real, and pretty conclusively shows that it IS possible.

      MC

    6. Re:busting myths mistakenly by motocam25 · · Score: 1

      Good thread fellas

    7. Re:busting myths mistakenly by bsims · · Score: 1

      I have one on the wall of my office, that I did with carbon fiber arrows. I have done this twice. I have seen it done with aluminum arrows as well.
      It is not a perfectly straight join; about five degrees by mk1 eyeball.
      Also, were they using broadheads or field points? I can well immagine that a pencil point would be less likely to split vs a rotating broadhead.

    8. Re:busting myths mistakenly by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've broken the nock off more than a few arrows in my time, which, in this time of aluminum arrows, is about as close to "splitting" an arrow as you can get. If you're a good shot, and you're shooting at a small target it's not unlikely that you could hit an arrow that's already there. Basic probability distribution says that.

      You'd have to be more uber than me to be able to do it repeatedly, or to hit the arrow on purpose, but I've known people who could hit their own arrow, given a few shots.

      If I'd seen them prove that one "busted", I would have been peeved as well. In the era that they're referring to, in England, archery was the only allowed sport...I bet there were some damn ferocious archers, who could do things that modern sport hunters would not be capable of. They bow hunted for birds for christs sake.

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    9. Re:busting myths mistakenly by dafz1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the test MythBusters did, they created a machine to fire the arrows following the human archer test, so that adjustments could be made to velocity, trajectory, etc. This was the device they used to put the tip of the broadhead against the nock of the arrow already in the target. As stated in my parent, all attempts at "splitting" arrow failed.

      The one arrow they were able to somewhat damage, the problem was the arrow split following the wood grain of the shaft. Since all wood arrows have wood grain, they conclude that even if there was a direct tip to nock impact, there wouldn't be a "perfect" split.

      Please watch Mythbusters Episode 36 "Killer Tissue Box", which will be re-broadcast Nov. 25, 2005 on the Discovery Channel @ 10am(EST). This is the episode that they "bust" this myth.

    10. Re:busting myths mistakenly by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      YES! I was so pissed off with this episode because my father did this by accident. He's an avid archer but far from an expert (he can't yet shoot an aspirin in the air with a recurve bow).

      We were target shooting in our backyard at a distance of about 35 yards using compound hunting bows and aluminum arrows with standard tips (NOT broadheads which are wide, but regular metal pointed tips). One of my father's shots went precisely inside of another arrow that was already in the target! It was lodged inside of the other arrow shaft about halfway down, and about 7 or 8 strips of aluminum curled outward and down (looked like an umbrella).

      Mythbusters is a cool show, but they sometimes lack details to truly prove or disprove myths.

    11. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Mahou · · Score: 1

      the grain in a wood arrow is not perfectly straight down the shaft, therefore a solid arrow will not split down the middle but rather follow the grain since after the initial cut with the arrow head, the shaft is actually being ripped apart(from having something big being pushed through it) and not being cut apart. maybe if they shot an arrow into a piece of bamboo it could split perfectly down the middle, but not a solid arrow made of wood.

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    12. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Sethb · · Score: 1

      I've got one of those lucky shots too. I was about 13 and was out jack-rabbit hunting with a friend in the Mojave desert, far from any sort of authority. Anyhow, we were riding in the back of the pickup that his dad was driving, picking off rabbits with our .22 rifles near the alfalfa fields when a Kanagroo Rat ran across the road, and I picked it off from the back of a moving pickup with a single shot rifle using the iron sights with one shot. No way I could ever duplicate that shot in a million years, but you should have seen the look on their faces...

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    13. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Durandal64 · · Score: 1
      Sorry, but no. That archer X is unable to split arrows with other arrows says nothing of archer Y's ability to do it. Remember, the arrow-splitting incident was supposed to demonstrate Robins mastery of archery, so obviously it can't be something that every Joe Archer could do at will. And I know from experience that, when chopping wood (which arrows in Robin Hoods time were made of) hitting it in the right spot in the right way is absolutely vital to get it to split easily.
      Archer Y's "mastery" of archery says nothing about the physics of the situation. When fired through the air, an arrow will actually oscillate. The shaft appears to "wobble" in a slow-motion camera. This will cause the point of the arrow to take on different angles throughout flight. No matter how good Robin Hood was, there is no possible way he could get the arrow to split evenly down the middle. The arrow head's oscillation makes this impossible, and there's no amount of skill which can overcome that motion.
      So no, this myth is not busted. The real (whatever that's supposed to mean here) archers in question couldn't do it; that does not prove that no one could do it.
      No, but science demonstrates that it's not possible. The MythBusters went so far as to put an arrow in a firing tube to ensure the straightest possible trajectory and fired it into the target arrow at point-blank range. The target arrow did not split evenly down the middle.
    14. Re:busting myths mistakenly by multriha · · Score: 2, Informative

      The myth concerned arrows with wooden shafts. They covered the fact that hollow plastic and aluminum arrows were routinely split by hobbyists .

    15. Re:busting myths mistakenly by shuut · · Score: 0

      The problem is the material they uses, if robin hood used a bamboo arrow, it can definately be splitted from tail to head.

    16. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      There was a possible flaw in this experiment. The length of the exposed shaft is a variable they didn't test. The arrows the were shooting into had the majority of their shafts exposed.

      If the target arrows had been shot more deeply into the target, the exposed shaft would have been shorter and it may have been easier to cleanly split the exposed section of the arrow.

    17. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Divide+By+Zero · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The myth was that it was done with a wooden arrow so that's what they were trying to prove. They went to a local archery club and found archers who'd done this with carbon fiber arrows (and had the arrows to prove it), though not a perfect nock-to-tip split. Most were telescoped or had sheared off a part of the "target" arrow.

      They tried what I assume was field point - a pencil-tip-like point, met with no success, and moved to broadhead. Still no success. A combination of the wobbly-arrow-in-flight phenomenon (which I'm sure has a name) and the inability to get perfectly straight wood grain on their "target" arrow was what busted it.

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    18. Re:busting myths mistakenly by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      My favorite "Never could duplicate in a million attempts" moments was when the family was going to a concert. My wife asked if I had the tickets as she stood, brushing her hair in front of the full-length, framed mirror. I immediately took them from my jacket pocket (ala James Bond), fanned them and threw them frisbee style toward her as a unit. As they spread out they turned sideways and all five of them stuck between the mirror and the frame in front of her. She didn't even bat an eye and just said, "A simple 'Yes' was all I needed."

      And, yes, I've split an aluminum arrow with target point and I've split a wooden one (side entry fairly far down) but one of the split sides fell off as I removed them from the target. Both incidents were in Jr. High while taking archery during gym.

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    19. Re:busting myths mistakenly by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Archer Y's "mastery" of archery says nothing about the physics of the situation. When fired through the air, an arrow will actually oscillate. The shaft appears to "wobble" in a slow-motion camera. This will cause the point of the arrow to take on different angles throughout flight. No matter how good Robin Hood was, there is no possible way he could get the arrow to split evenly down the middle. The arrow head's oscillation makes this impossible, and there's no amount of skill which can overcome that motion.

      Dumb luck can overcome it, if the arrow happens to strike the other arrow when the head happens to be in the middle point of its oscillation.

      I don't comment on whether skill can overcome it or not, since I don't know what causes the oscillation: air friction, the shock of being pushed forward by the bowstring, or some other factor.

      No, but science demonstrates that it's not possible. The MythBusters went so far as to put an arrow in a firing tube to ensure the straightest possible trajectory and fired it into the target arrow at point-blank range. The target arrow did not split evenly down the middle.

      Unfortunately, this experiment only proves that the arrow used in the experiment did not split envenly down the middle; it does not prove that no arrrow could be split evenly donw the middle. Or to put it another way: all arrows are not made equal.

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    20. Re:busting myths mistakenly by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      My buddies were shooting at a bird on a telphone post with a BB gun. After about 15 or 20 minutes of them missing, I took the gun, fired one shot, hit the bird (well, think I did as there was a spray of feathers and the bird flew away) and handed the gun back.

      I never said a word.....

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    21. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      First they had real archers fire a large number of arrows at the same target, none of which "split" the target arrow(nor even hit it). Then they tried more controlled conditions(read: indoors), where they ended up putting a broadhead right at the nock(sp?) of another arrow, which led to partial splitting of the arrow(about 4 -6 inches long). The high-speed camera showed there is too much flex in the arrow shaft to get a clean split. Then they bundled a bunch togther, hoping the rigidity of the bundle would keep the target arrow stiff enough, which it didn't.

      Myth: Busted


      Actually, I can confirm that "Myth". I was on my high school archery team in the finals competition shooting aluminum arrows at foam targets about 25 yards down range.

      My first arrow landed within the 9 point ring. My second arrow broke the nock on the first arrow and embedded itself completely into the shaft of the first arrow. It literally looked like tent poles inserted into one another it was so exact.

      Unfortunately someone stole my arrows out of the display, so I have no proof other than the comments and drawings in my yearbook from teammates. :(

      Myth: Confirmed! (For aluminum arrows anyway)

      :cicw

    22. Re:busting myths mistakenly by selil · · Score: 1

      I happen to have a robin hood hanging in my wall display too. It represents about $20 in tips, and arrows (Easton carbon fiber). I figured out why it didn't split full length. And, the reason is pretty simple. The target is a foam target and the second arrow hitting the first arrow drives the first arrow deeper into the target (absorbing energy) rather than splitting the first arrow more than half way. So who busts the mythbusters myths? Love show by the way?

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    23. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Durandal64 · · Score: 1
      Dumb luck can overcome it, if the arrow happens to strike the other arrow when the head happens to be in the middle point of its oscillation.
      Even if that happened, the momentum of the arrow head's oscillatory motion doesn't just disappear. It would not be a straight shot down the shaft.
      I don't comment on whether skill can overcome it or not, since I don't know what causes the oscillation: air friction, the shock of being pushed forward by the bowstring, or some other factor.
      Oscillation is a combination of factors. The feathers on the arrow contribute toward uneven airflow over the surface, or the launching surface of the arrow could be irregular.
      Unfortunately, this experiment only proves that the arrow used in the experiment did not split envenly down the middle; it does not prove that no arrrow could be split evenly donw the middle. Or to put it another way: all arrows are not made equal.
      I'm sorry, but don't be stupid. The onus is not on the Myth Busters to disprove this claim. They are merely testing it. Their tests show that the claim is extremely suspect, at best, and their results agree with what we would theoretically expect using basic Newtonian mechanics. If you'd like the spend the next 25 years trying to achieve a perfect split, you're more than welcome, but it simply won't happen.
    24. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Strixy · · Score: 0

      The one time I managed this feat it was with a cheap cheap fibreglass arrow. The receiving arrow snapped about 3 inches from the nock. I still have that one.

    25. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it does.

      The wobbling comes from the fact that when the arrow is launched, the bow string will roll over the fingers of the archer, sending it outwards, then the arrow will be bent towards the bow as the string oscillates to the other side on its path. This will cause the arrow to jump out from the bow, and the trick is to control this bending and jumping to get as little wobbling as possible. Which is why recurve archers today use the plunger, basicle a highly adjustable springwire with a plastic/fiber bumper.

      Anyways, back to wooden arrows - as any archer and physicist can tell you, hollow arrows make better arrows; they are lighter (and hence faster, good for hunting) and a alot stiffer (less wobbling) - therefore you make wooden arrows out of trees that have stright hollow branches - like the young willow branches for instance (which here in norway is known as "piltre" "arrow tree", but that might be a coincident) - and prepare them (wetting and drying) to get the proper hardness of a good arrow.

      Also, let us assume that Robin Hood was a clever guy - the tale suggests so - he would use his thickest arrows for target shooting. Thicker arrows are stiffer (bigger hollow vs. wood ratio) meaning less wobbling - the only good reason for using thin arrows is wind and/or long distances (they are heavier, slower, more air resistance). Thicker arrows are also easier to spot on the target for the spectaters, making them good for show-offs.

      And with such thick hollow wooden arrows - made for target shooting, an occational splitting is quite plausable and even likely to happen every now and then.

      At 25-30 meters, a good archer can very well split thick arrows on purpose - it's not without reason FITA came up with three-spotted targets, one spot for each arrow in a series for indoor shooting.

      Why they make those lame non-hollow wooden and fiberglass arrows they sell in the sport shops I have no idea, they are close to useless.. heavy, slow, never going stright, and very un-accurate making them a heck more dangerous then normal, faster arrows.

    26. Re:busting myths mistakenly by advb89 · · Score: 0

      In archery club at school, (my school is only four years old), they actually have an example of a Robin Hood, which i have seen before... We are currently on the archery unit in gym class, and my teacher showed us the arrows that it happened to. She said it was some kid in archery club. It was stuck about 4 and a half inches down the back, splitting the knock and half the arrow in two. I even pulled at the arrow, and it was stuck in there really good...

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    27. Re:busting myths mistakenly by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      Everyone knows splitting an arrow is possible.

      The question is if splitting an arrow on command is possible. Is it possible for anyone to fire an arrow and then fire another and split the first.

      The answer is: No.

      The wobble in the point, which is not due to archer skill but due to how arrows fly through the air, combined with the fact you have to hit it dead on, makes this impossible.

      And it is, of course, flatly impossible to split an arrow at all if your arrows are made poorly.

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    28. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The biggest piece of misinformation in the arrow splitting test was that archers call the feat "telescoping". In my years of shooting Freestyle recurve I have never ever heard anyone use that term. Every archer I know calls it a "Robin Hood".

    29. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AFAIK: wooden arrows today are turned from larger pieces of wood. Your average arrow from Robin Hoods time was likely made from a single, mostly unmodified, cane or whathaveyou.

      Wouldn't if follow that arrows of the time would have had grain that was parallel the entire length of the arrow, as opposed to todays arrows?

      0_o

    30. Re:busting myths mistakenly by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The myth is not that you can hit another arrow (every archer's done that at one point or another), or the same spot twice. The myth is that Robin Hood split the arrow *from nock to tip*. In other words, the entire shaft of the arrow is split down the middle.

      While there may be that 1 in a bazillion chance that it would work, all the tests they did showed that it is impossible. The blade of the arrow tip follows the grain in the wood, and unless you have a perfectly straight grain that never hits the edge of the shaft, the arrow will always pop out before it hits the target.

    31. Re:busting myths mistakenly by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      and of course they used not modern mass-produced arrows but those made as they were in England circa 1300 A.D.?

    32. Re:busting myths mistakenly by gnuLNX · · Score: 1

      I saw my next door neighbor shoot a bird of a power line with an arrow when I was a kid. We used to shoot a good bit in our back yards. He was pretty good, but I was like damn man you just killed a bird with your bow!

      That is a totally true story...must have been like 16 at the time.

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    33. Re:busting myths mistakenly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine that in the days or Robin Hood, dowels didn't exist and a straight branch would be used instead. This would have a grain that runs straight.

    34. Re:busting myths mistakenly by DuranDuran · · Score: 1

      My buddies were shooting at a bird on a telphone post with a BB gun. After about 15 or 20 minutes of them missing, I took the gun, fired one shot, hit the bird (well, think I did as there was a spray of feathers and the bird flew away) and handed the gun back.

      I never said a word.....


      Wow, what a legend you are. You and your friends, such brave, brave people. That's gonna be a story to tell your kids. "Yes, son, I shot a bird once, I was a real hero. Why, yes, I am a cowardly ass, now that you mention it."

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    35. Re:busting myths mistakenly by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      Thank you for such a wonderful, literate reply. I'll be sure to check out your other postings, I'm sure they are also masterpieces of intelligent, thought provoking prose that easily miss the point of the original poster.

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    36. Re:busting myths mistakenly by DuranDuran · · Score: 1

      What point? Your post didn't have one, other than "I am a HERO for shooting the bird that my idiot friends couldn't hit". Maybe you had a point, but it's not in your post. Fool.

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  12. ultimate myth? by Antonymous+Flower · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What myth would the Mythbusters most like to investigate but lack the means to do so?

    1. Re:ultimate myth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did Jesus really exist, or is the Jesus story just a collection of myths?

    2. Re:ultimate myth? by kpwoodr · · Score: 1

      Can you bust the myth that geeks make better lovers?...on second thought...nevermind.

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  13. Cool by JWW · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mythbusters is a great show! Oh, yeah I should ask a question.

    I understand completely why you guys warn us to "not try this at home". But who warns you guys?

    Ok all joking aside. You guys do some really dangerous stuff on the show. What has been the scariest/ most hair raising moment on the show so far, a time when you might have thought "this is really going to hurt"?

    1. Re:Cool by garcia · · Score: 1

      I understand completely why you guys warn us to "not try this at home". But who warns you guys?

      They aren't the ones risking their lives! It's the poor dummy Mortimer! Any dummy that's easy enough to coerce to hop out of a plane using only an inflatable life raft as a "floatation" device to drift to the ground isn't very smart.

      I hope that Mortimer has a great life insurance policy!

    2. Re:Cool by JWW · · Score: 1

      Oh, there have been many instances where they have been injured. The famous vaccuum incident with Adam comes to mind, and Jaime was actually in the building for the rocket test that instantly filled the entire warehouse with smoke.

      They (the non dummies ;-) have been in danger many times.

    3. Re:Cool by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      They aren't the ones risking their lives! It's the poor dummy Mortimer!

      Wait. Who the hell is Mortimer? I demand Buster back! We have the technology, we can rebuild him!

    4. Re:Cool by garcia · · Score: 1

      Whatever, Mortimer, Buster, Foo, AKAImBatman, etc ;) All the same ;)

    5. Re:Cool by dfn5 · · Score: 1
      I understand completely why you guys warn us to "not try this at home". But who warns you guys?

      A more interesting question would be do they believe that people actually heed their warnings. I can't wait to put my water cooler bottle rocket rig together.

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    6. Re:Cool by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whatever? Whatever?!? I don't think you realize the peril you place yourself in! Now the wrath of the First Church of Buster shall verily rain down upon you! Repent! Repent before you are smitten! ;-)

    7. Re:Cool by JWW · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that one was the coolest. I can't wait to try that one ;-). Actaully I've already done some things with that. My son had a water propelled rocket that he had bought and we wondered what would happen if we substituted pop for the water and then pumped it up and then gave it a good shake.

      It took us a while to find that rocket.

    8. Re:Cool by beef3k · · Score: 1

      Not until someone repents coming up with that "webdesign"...

    9. Re:Cool by Timex · · Score: 1

      Don't forget when Jamie went into the coffin, to see if it was possible for someone to be buried alive. (I think I saw that show on OnDemand once, and they mentioned that Adam did it too, but i tgot cut from the show.)

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  14. upside down car by Marqis · · Score: 5, Interesting


    I heard that an F1 racing car has enough downdraft to drive upside down at speed. True or false?

    1. Re:upside down car by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Informative

      The answer is "true" according to the official F1 site.

      http://www.formula1.com/insight/technicalinfo/11/4 68.html

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    2. Re:upside down car by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

      It has to be true if they can corner or brake at greater than 1g, more like 3g to 4g. 1g being the force of gravity, which is enough to keep them on the ground normally. I don't believe that the tires are sticky enough that they hold you down that well.

    3. Re:upside down car by caveat · · Score: 1

      Aeros aren't neccessary to exceed 1G, the Corvette Z06 pushes about 1.05G and the M-B F400 concept car uses active camber adjustment to "carve" corners up to 1.2G or so. You're right though, you can't pull 3.6Gs of lateral acceleration on your tires alone, that takes tremendous downforce as well; IIRC an F1 car set for maximum downforce weighs something like two and a third times more at speed. (Yes, that does work out to theretically driving upside down. Maybe put some ramps in the Mont Blanc tunnel and try it out?) It's interesting, F1 cars handle better at higher speeds - a corner that can'tbe negotiated at say 75 mph might be perfect at 120.

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    4. Re:upside down car by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      True, sort of. You have to consider what the downforce is there for in the first place though.

      The car produces more downforce than it weighs, that is true. It generates this force to exert more pressure on the tires, and thus more traction.

      Ok, flip it upside down. Now instead of having downforce plus the weight of the car now you have only the downforce MINUS the car's weight acting on the tires. With that decrease in traction, the rear tires won't have enough grip to maintain speed. Less speed means less downforce, which means less traction which means even LESS speed which leads to not driving upside down anymore.

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    5. Re:upside down car by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

      It's true that you subtract the weight of the car at that point, but I still think that the force created by the wings is greater than what is needed to keep the car planted up on the ceiling.

    6. Re:upside down car by op12 · · Score: 1

      A modern Formula One car is capable of developing 3.5 g lateral cornering force (three and a half times its own weight) thanks to aerodynamic downforce. That means that, theoretically, at high speeds they could drive upside down.

      How do they define high speed? 200mph? 1500mph?

    7. Re:upside down car by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your argument makes sense, but the "less this, means less that, means less this" logically make any sense.

      Downforce is downforce. The only situation where I'd question the ability of the car to hold traction would be during an extended driving session where the downforce is at a 90 degree angle to earth. Kindof like a plane flying on its side... it doesn't have any flight surfaces (other than the rudder, which cars don't have) providing lift in that direction.

      Anyways, if you're going fast enough, that transition between right side up and upside down is irrelevant because gravity generated downforce.

      Personally, I think you just don't like the idea of cars driving upside down.

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    8. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They will probably try this one, just for the opportunity to ruin another great sports car (witness the Corvette and X1/9 fiascos)

    9. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a discovery channel doco called "Secret Life of Formula One".

      I remember one part where they are in the WilliamsF1 factory, and one of the engineers shows a computer model of an F1 car driving upside down. F1 teams have very very complex computer simulations, as nowdays they are not allowed to test as much, so they try and do as much as they can with computers.

    10. Re:upside down car by hackstraw · · Score: 3, Informative

      I heard that an F1 racing car has enough downdraft to drive upside down at speed. True or false?

      AFAIK, that is completely true. Or at least I saw it on some HD show and they said so. It seems completely possible. I just found here http://www.formula1.com/insight/technicalinfo/11/4 68.html:

      A modern Formula One car is capable of developing 3.5 g lateral cornering force (three and a half times its own weight) thanks to aerodynamic downforce. That means that, theoretically, at high speeds they could drive upside down.

      That is pretty intense, but I don't see how 3.5 g of lateral force translates necessarily to downward force. Lets click on the second google hit. http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s282081.h tm

      A Formula 1 car uses aerodynamics to generate, at full speed, a downforce of 2-and-a-half times its own weight, so that it'll stick to the road really well. At 160 km per hour, they're generating their own weight in downforce - so they could theoretically drive upside down on the roof of a tunnel.

      OK, 2.5 downward gs is enough.

      I need a more fun job. By those specs, these things are basically a better handling fighter jet that can't go quite as fast, but pretty damn fast.

    11. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This reminds me of an article the McLaren F1 team ran in their monthly club magazine 'Racing Line'.
      They ran a full article with front page photo shoot and all detailing how they did it.
      The fact it was the April edition escaped me until the next issue when they announced the 'gag'
      http://www.indiacar.com/index2.asp?pagename=http:/ /www.indiacar.com/nfs/technical/roof.htm/

    12. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to add to that:
      The coefficient of static friction between ordinary dry asphalt and tire rubber ranges from around .7 to .9. For a wheel rolling without slipping,
      Force of friction = coefficient of static friction * normal force.
      which also conveniently equals
      mass of the car * cornering acceleration

      If you assume that there is no extra downward force due to wind, etc, then you just have
      normal force = m*g

      Plugging that all in and solving,
      max cornering acceleration = coefficient of friction * g

      Even assuming that the F1 cars have amazing tires that get a coefficient of friction of 1.5 (wayy more than the standard .9), once they start pushing 1.5+ G's of cornering acceleration need extra downward force from aerodynamic properties to keep from slipping.

      If the car can withstand 3 G's of cornering acceleration, then the extra downward force should theoretically allow the car to drive upside down for a short while, though remaining upside-down for an extended period of time (indefinitely?) is a bit more questionable.

    13. Re:upside down car by CFTM · · Score: 1

      I'm no F1 expert but one of my buddies is a huge car buff and I was browsing a book of his on F1 cars and the book made reference to some team putting a giant fan on the back of the car which sucked out all the air underneath thus creating some suction. These things gripped the road insanely well and if my memory serves me they believed that they could have driven one of them upside down; the racing authority outlawed it within a few years though.

      I can't seem to find any references to this nonsense though so I could be mistaken or my memory could be faulty.

    14. Re:upside down car by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      :cringes: sorry about the lack of grammar, but I stand by my conclusion.

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    15. Re:upside down car by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1
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    17. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure it's true that they could drive upside down, but that would be pretty hard and dangerous to prove.

      How about proving that the low pressure area under the car is enough to launch a sewer manhole cover when driving over it??

      Joe

    18. Re:upside down car by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Here's the "this less this" explained:

      The 2005 Ferrari F1 car (according to the internet...) weighs 605kg in racing trim. It was stated that these cars can generate 2.5x their weight in downforce. So: 605+(605x2.5)=2117.5kg of force between the tires and the road. Right?

      Now, take the downforce generated less the vehicle's weight (since it is now acting against the downforce instead of with it) and you get 907.5kg of force on the wheels. Assuming a neutral balance that ends up being about 225kg per wheel (down from 530kg, less than half!) At the speed where an F1 car is generating "2.5 times its weight in downforce", there is a LOT of drag, which means there is a LOT of power needed to maintain the speed. That power needs to be transmitted through the rear wheels to the ground (well ceiling in this case...)

      It's been a while since physics classes, but I'm thinking that there just isn't enough traction with that little force on the tires to maintain the car's speed. If someone wants to get the tire contact patch area, coefficient of friction and drag force from an F1 race car at max speed they could run the numbers and prove me wrong... or right. :) And if anyone has a video contradicting this, I'd LOVE to see it (that would be friggin cool)

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    19. Re:upside down car by xlr8ed · · Score: 1
      but I stand by my conclusion.

      And you stand wrong...Downdraft does not equal downforce.

      Downdraft is caused by airpressure moving over the car so fast that it has to pushes the car down, closer to the ground to get by.
    20. Re:upside down car by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Friction is proportional to the normal force applied. If you increase the force applied downwards through the contact patch, you can increase the allowable side load on the contact patch.

      You can imagine that the tires get "stickier" as downforce increases, although that's not exactly what's happening.

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    21. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once the car is upside down, the engine would shut off due to a lack of fuel from an upside down tank. Then the car would slow and it would fall. So no, this couldn't physically work with an un-modified f1 car.

    22. Re:upside down car by TubeSteak · · Score: 0, Troll

      And I guess it pisses you off that the /. poll spells Urkel as Urkle?

      If you go back and read closely, you notice that my conclusion is:
      Personally, I think you just don't like the idea of cars driving upside down.

      so how about you try xlr8ing deez nutz?

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    23. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is pretty intense, but I don't see how 3.5 g of lateral force translates necessarily to downward force.

      It requires a bit of background knowledge. Your average car that develops negligable downforce at the speeds used in cornering tests, e.g., Car & Driver tests, can't do much better than 1G. This is loosely related to the coefficient of friction developed between the tires and the asphault, which can get up to ~0.90-0.95 for slicks on dry pavement. The relationship surely involves a decent amount of real-world physics that would make a simple rigid body static analysis inadequate, so I will shy away from attempting to explain it.

      The point being, if you can corner at much more than 1G, then you must be magnifying the friction that can be developed by the tires by increasing the apparent weight of the car -- by using aerodynamics to create a downforce at high speeds where high G cornering tends to be necessary.

    24. Re:upside down car by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      They could go faster, but Formula 1 banned some pretty wild technologies that made the competition very unbalanced.

      Side skirts, active suspension, turbos, ABS brakes, traction control... all banned.

      crazy stuff like 6-wheel cars were abandoned because the brakes would lock up independant of each other (nothing banned ABS tech couldn't fix)

      If the Formula 1 group removed all the various bans currently in effect, nobody could really predict what would happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they stuck wings on those cars and had them take shortcuts around the track by gliding.

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    25. Re:upside down car by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

      That's what I'm saying. The tires don't give enough mechanical grip without the aid of wings to give you that kind of cornering and braking. So, I think that it would be possible to drive it upside down for a time. But like someone mentioned, I'm not so sure that the engine can stay running while inverted.

      But I disagree with the person who thinks that the tires would lose traction. You would have to be going at a high speed to be able to do this and with a high downforce configuration on the car. I don't believe that the tire's traction with the road would have an effect on maintaining the speed when you're already going 160+ MPH to be able to do this. They do have those fancy traction control systems. I don't believe that there is not a huge amount of torque being applied to be able to maintain that speed even with the amount of drag that would be generated by the wings. Now, accelerating at full throttle while inverted may be a problem though.

      How about this for another question. If you reversed all of the downforce on a F-1 car would it be enough to lift off of the ground? Obviously you couldn't maintain it for long because the tires come off the ground, but do you think it could get air for a short distance?

    26. Re:upside down car by yapplejax · · Score: 1

      Supposedly, so does the Saleen S7. The undercarriage of the car is designed to raise downforce the faster the car goes, so theoretically, if the car goes fast enough it can be driven upside-down. If I recall, 180mph is the magic number.

    27. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! I say let's build a bigger racetrack and get rid of all the technical limitations. I want to see what could be accomplished!!!

      And hey, this word verification technology used when you post a message here is getting so bad that I almost can't make out the words. :(

    28. Re:upside down car by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

      That one was proved a few races ago. I think it was in China when they launched something like that. I'm not sure if it was a manhole cover, but some kind of part of the road was lifted.

    29. Re:upside down car by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Sure, you could readily lift the F1 car off the ground. I'm absolutely certain that it would immediately start tumbling out of control, and have a lot of Bad Things happening.

      I think you're absolutely right about the engine running poorly inverted.

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    30. Re:upside down car by XenonDif · · Score: 1
      By those specs, these things are basically a better handling fighter jet that can't go quite as fast, but pretty damn fast.

      Actually Schumacher's Ferrari was just shown to be faster than a eurofigher at distances shorter than 900m. After that all the extra downforce drags the Ferrari compared to the eurofighter which doesn't need any downforce. Here's a pic of the event.

    31. Re:upside down car by HarvardAce · · Score: 2, Interesting
      At the speed where an F1 car is generating "2.5 times its weight in downforce", there is a LOT of drag, which means there is a LOT of power needed to maintain the speed.

      I think you'll find if you do the math, you won't have a problem maintaining the speed. First, the article quoted said that an F1 car could generate 3.5g of lateral force. This means that the tires are gripping the ground at 3.5g, which is after the coefficient of friction between the tires/road has been factored in. If the car is turned upside down, that is now more than 1.5g of force the tires are able to apply (3.5g - (2 * (coeff. of friction * g)). Even if we assumed the tires can only produce 1 g of force, this would mean that the drag on the car at that speed would have to be equal to the force of gravity. This point is also called its terminal velocity. So you are basically arguing, at an absolute worst case, that the terminal velocity of an F1 car is about 200mph. Since a skydiver's terminal velocity is about 200mph with his arms tucked in, I'd venture to guess that an F1 car has a higher terminal velocity.

      Remember, this is assuming that we can only generate 1g of lateral force. In reality, this number will be at least 1.5g and probably closer to 2g.

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    32. Re:upside down car by KanSer · · Score: 1

      The faster a formula 1 car goes, the more downforce it generates. A Formula 1 car can also be tweaked to provide extreme downforce. Also, the number I've heard is it generates enough downforce to go upside down once it's at 100 mph+.

      Now, if you had a long enough and big enough tube you could easily get the car going to 150 mph, and at that point I don't see the problem with driving upside down. The car is going to be getting pushed onto the surface it rides on, regardless of orientation, and it will have the capability to accelerate, which gives more downforce.

      Instead of losing grip it will increase grip.

      Also, Formula 1 cars are very delicately balanced, you want downforce in turns, but not on straights. In this hypothetical scenario you can juice the downforce as high as you want, vastly increasing its grip potential over the race setup.

      So don't be a hater. (I'd really like to see this myth proven!And not in a wind-tunnel you ponces)

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    33. Re:upside down car by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but the quoted 3.5g lateral load is with the 2100kg of force on the tires. Like I said, I have no idea what coefficient of friction and contact patch area those tires have and if someone can come up with the tire performance numbers for a F1 car and do the math, that'd be great.

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    34. Re:upside down car by SPY_jmr1 · · Score: 1

      The engine doesn't really mind it, but the lubrication system typically HATES it.

      The internal forces and pressures inside an engine are normally ignorant of external conditions, but keeping the oil in a open pan is quite a trick.

      Aircraft engines are a good example of this, look up acrobatic engines, or inverted oil systems.

      But I would love to see the myth put to the test, :-D

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    35. Re:upside down car by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      You can lift an F1 race car off the ground without magically reversing the lift.

      All you have to do is remove the front 'wing' and the car will instantly catch wind under the front, lift the entire car off the ground and flip front over back before skidding down the raceway backwards.

      I just saw a simulation of this once. I think it may have actually happened before.

      Of course, that's not technically 'flying', because the 'negative lift' at the back of the car is what's causing half the problems, pivoting the whole front upward. But the sheer pressure of the air going under the car at about 45 degrees does make the back wheels go a few inches off the ground, too, at least until the entire car goes past vertical into the wind.

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    36. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Formula 1 cars use tires specifically designed for the best performance / tire life for the type of track they are on. If driving upside down was limited by a tire contact problem, they could simply switch to softer / stickier tires, possibly similar to what they use in the rain.

      As for other engine fluid problems, I think enough portions of a car's fluids are forced transfer these days that they could make it work with a few modifications.

    37. Re:upside down car by Bugbear1973 · · Score: 1

      Theoretically, an F1 car can generate enough downforce to be able to drive upside down. The catch is that many components within an F1 car are designed with gravity in mind (think of fuel pumps, oil pumps) So while it is theoretically possible, you wouldn't be able to do it until you redesign some parts so they can actually work upside down...

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    38. Re:upside down car by _aa_ · · Score: 1

      One could relativly inexpensivly and safely test this in a wind tunnel. Of course this is one of those things that is technically true, but not practically. Downforce can easily be measured on an upright car at speed, and if the downforce generated is greater than the weight of the car at rest, then in theory, it would drive upside down. But it would also lose traction and slide out of control and explode.

    39. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the traction is for cornering, breaking and accelerating. for maintaining speed there's plenty of traction already.

    40. Re:upside down car by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Boy, I'd like to see the MythBusters build a quarter mile track with a top on it, a "rounded rectangle" shape. They should be able to drive in loops.

      With their remote-control know-how and "have crash test dummy, will travel" attitude, the budget should be the biggest limitation.

      They might be able to get a "last year's car" from a sponsor of one of the racing teams. Send out their MythGal to sweet-talk the team out of it.

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    41. Re:upside down car by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      If the Formula 1 group removed all the various bans currently in effect, nobody could really predict what would happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they stuck wings on those cars and had them take shortcuts around the track by gliding.

      I'll tell you what would happen - lots of people would actually start watching Forumula 1 racing on TV.

      But then they'd sell more tickets, get more advetisers, get bigger ad contracts, have more sponsors - no, bad idea.

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    42. Re:upside down car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oil systems in racing cars of any significant pedigree (even NASCAR) run dry sump. This means scavenging pumps run the oil into a tank which supplies pumps that feed high pressure oil throughout the engine. The reason? Sustained high g-forces far outside of normal would otherwise give you problems with oil-starvation.

      The fuel system works in the same way but moreso. A F1 car's weight may not be less than 600kg(1320lb) at any time during the race(605kg in qualifying). Since its fuel capacity is around 35 gallons(at 5.5 pounds/gal around 190 lb), it represents a massively significant(npi) proportion of vehicle weight. 3.5 G would result in the fuel level taking on an angle of 74.5 degrees! This would represent a huge shift in the center of mass of the car, even within a few inches, in precisely the wrong direction. Compunded with sloshing it would be a variable the car designers(especially the chassis team) would want to contain first. And so they do, with a solution that also eliminates the possibility of fuel starvation.

      For the guys who think that an upside down F1 car would run out of traction with only 2 times its weight holding the tires to the road, consider this: How did it get up to that speed to begin with when it started out with no downforce at all and only the weight of the car on the tires? Or are you inserting another variable and insisting that the upside-down portion of the track should be greased teflon? I've got an idea. Lets not.

      For those interested in how lateral g translates into downforce, static friction of a F1 car is 1.2 to 1.3 Gs. Roughly, that's the number you should divide by to figure out what level of lateral Gs would translate into doubled downforce. Or, about 2.5 Gs. If you have the car setup so that at a certain speed it can sustain a 2.5 G corner, it could, at that speed and higher, drive normally upside-down.

    43. Re:upside down car by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      3.5G doesn't have anything to do with the weight of the vehicle under acceleration. It means the centrifugal lateral force analagous to gravity, though at a tangent to the curved path, is 3.5 times the force of gravity at the surface of the Earth. So you'd feel like you weigh 3.5x as much, sideways. Not a very useful spec for imagining the ride, but useful in designing a suspension and tires, where the force of friction must resist the force pulling the car into a slide.

      The downward force link about driving on the ceiling was cool, though.

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  15. Fact vs Fun by elrick_the_brave · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I watch your show, it's obvious that there is a lot of fun going on. Who wouldn't like blowing up, breaking down, stinking up, falling down, and all-around destroying everything?

    For those of us not of TV-land.. how long does it take for you guys to produce an average episode.. how much of it is fun vs time spent working on getting it right?

    Would you consider a contest to have a guest helper? (Not that I am plugging this potential guest helper at all.. no!).

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    1. Re:Fact vs Fun by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
      I'm amazed nobody posted a link to their wikipedia entry yet.
      It answers a lot of the questions people have been asking.

      Wikipedia also informs that they did do a guest helper at once point.
      Also aiding the crew for most of the second season was "Mythtern" Christine Chamberlain, joining the show after she won the "Mythtern" contest promoted by Discovery Channel.


      I also found a fanclub website with break downs of almost every single episode from the first and second season
      http://www.mythbustersfanclub.com/html/episodes.ht ml
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  16. Own myths? by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Was there ever a myth you guys created be it intentional or by accident. As such, have others had to debunk this myth?

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  17. Is it true? by robyannetta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Similar to a stunt in a famous James Bond film, can a person really be shot out of a submarine torpedo tube?

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    1. Re:Is it true? by vinnythenose · · Score: 1

      The answer to this is, in fact YES.
      The real question is, will the person survive?

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    2. Re:Is it true? by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      The answer to this is, in fact YES. The real question is, will the person survive?

      Yes, and yes. The US Navy experimented with this a couple of times back in the 1940s and 1950s. I'm not sure if modern torpedo tubes are designed the same as the old ones were, but the person did get shot out of the tube, but the pressures involved caused all sorts of physical problems (ruptured eardrums, blood vessels in the eyes, etc).

    3. Re:Is it true? by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      Similar to a stunt in a famous James Bond film, can a person really be shot out of a submarine torpedo tube?

      Depends on if survival is also a requirement.

      If survival doesn't count, I'd bet your life on it!

    4. Re:Is it true? by loki1978 · · Score: 1, Informative

      Easy to answer, as my dad served on a mine seeker in a small fleet pack together with a sub and two destroyers with tubes and his own ship had tubes too.
      Leaving subs this way is actually a common thing for special forces all around the globe. Normally, as already mentioned in another answer, you open inside, the man crawls in, the hatch is closed, the tube is floated, the outer hatch opened and out you crawl. Not for the claustrophobic one.
      You can actually shoot the man out. The pressurized water that makes the torpedo leave the tube is too much under pressure for a man, but as the pressure has to be adjustable to different torpedos, warheads.....ergo weights, one can trick around. My dad says a skilled operator could back then shut down the pressure building at a right point. I doubt this would get much harder today.

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    5. Re:Is it true? by Hymer · · Score: 1

      As others have said, it is possible and it has been done. It has been tested back in the 30-ties for use as an emergency exit before subs got a real emergency exit.

    6. Re:Is it true? by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Similar to a stunt in a famous James Bond film, can a person really be shot out of a submarine torpedo tube?
      A navy clearance diver (a guy who is trained to get mines out of the water) told me about an exercise where he got into the water from a submarine via a torpedo tube. He entered the tube, the tube was flooded and the door opened - it may well be the usual way to get divers in the water from a submarine. Action movies of course take things a lot furthur.
  18. Oh this is an easy one... by tgd · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is Kari's phone number, and whats her favorite restaurant?

    1. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, beat me to it. :o)

    2. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Heliologue · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree. Actually, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been overwhelmed with drooling over this very subject. In a related but more serious note: I've noticed that Kari seems to get more and more screen time; disproportionately so. Is there a concerted effort to boost her involvement (and no one is questioning her skill or usefulness) as a way to appeal to fans who, well, want to know her (in the Biblical sense)?

    3. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by jpummil · · Score: 1

      I'd second that! Kari is absolutely gorgeous and has a positively intoxicating personality. Kari, drop me an e-mail...we'll have dinner.

    4. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kari being strapped to chinese torture device
      best. television. ever.

    5. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Except the results showed that she clearly isn't kinky.

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    6. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by metamatic · · Score: 1

      There's also been a lot less Scottie, though. Maybe they just don't have as much stuff that needs serious welding any more?

      So in the absence of Scottie, can we have more myths that involve Kari in a bikini being smeared with stuff? There must be some jello wrestling myths out there...

      And I'm still disappointed that Adam and Jamie turned out not to be a gay couple.

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    7. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what YOU think is kinky, but I don't think it's the "being strapped to something" part, I think it's what your PARTNER is doing while you're strapped to something.

    8. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Emrikol · · Score: 1

      Oh, if I could only mod this up.

      I totally agree with this. Kari is the best. Silly girl used to have her personal email up on her website before things got really popular. I'm sure it doesn't work now though. (I can only imagine the sick emails she got)

      oh, and I call seconds!

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    9. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by tgd · · Score: 2, Informative

      She's not on the show anymore.

      She was on an episode of Monster Garage this season, though.

    10. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      Kari fans (and what red-blooded guy isn't?) might want to check out her artwork here: www.karibyron.com.

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    11. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Figures they'd have a cute redhead, as if my redhead fetish wasn't bad enough.

    12. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...it's dyed.

      In a later episode, she's got black hair with blonde highlights.

      Well, OK, I'm not sure which one is the actual natural hair color, but still.

    13. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by bmalia · · Score: 1

      Oh my lord.. That reminded me of that freaky artwork that Phoebe on 'Friends' made with the dolls.

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    14. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to know how much massage oil it takes to cover all of Kari's nekked body and I'd be happy to carry out the experiment for free.

    15. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by CmdrPorno · · Score: 2, Funny

      415-620-5412... Call her and ask her what her favorite restaurant is!

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    16. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by mrtroy · · Score: 1

      Hahaha....Mod this up!

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    17. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a similar vein:

      "How much of Kari's fan mail is marriage proposals, and how many of those come from prison?"

    18. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Judging by her complexion I would guess some shade of red, although not necessarily as nice as her obviously color-enhanced version of red.

    19. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by leprechaun92 · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because black hair with blonde highlights is natural

    20. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Durandal64 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And in this thread, we're busting the myth that Kari might actually be interested in random people posting on Slashdot.

    21. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      she definitely looks like a ginger, or at least a half ginger (aka a day-walker)

    22. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      How about the old James Bond one from "Goldfinger" -- if you cover every inch of somebody's skin with paint, they'll suffocate.

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    23. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're sorry. We did not find a listing for the phone number you entered.
      The phone number "(415) 620-5412" is a San Francisco Central, CA based phone number and the registered carrier is Digitcom Services, Inc. However, due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider other than the registered carrier.

    24. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Been done. They covered her in silver paint. I don't remember which episode, but you can probably download it if you look hard enough.

    25. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      Phone number, check. But forget the restaurant: I'd cook for her.

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    26. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by phr3ak9x · · Score: 1

      I could not agree more! Kari is an amazing, super hot woman!

    27. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by drxenos · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's the future ex-Mrs. DrXenos you are talking about!

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    28. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by sarastro_us · · Score: 1

      ACK! Flash! My eyes! My eyes!

    29. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've noticed that in the intro for the past couple of episodes, the members formerly known as "the build team" (Tory, Kari, and Grant) have received full recognition as co-Mythbusters. How come they aren't involved in this Ask Slashdot opportunity?

      Is it because Kari doesn't want to be bombarded with questions from creeps?

    30. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What is Kari's phone number, and whats her favorite restaurant?"
      ...and I am interested in the same info about Scottie

    31. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's been done twice, actually, back in the first(?) season. They did the gold paint to Jamie, and got some weird results. When they did a "revisit" episode, it was Adam's turn for the paint.

      The aforementioned silver-painted Kari was the Tin Man/aluminum dust sickness myth from The Wizard of Oz.

    32. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      She's not on the show anymore. She was on an episode of Monster Garage this season, though.

      That's Scottie not Kari. Kari is the redhead.

    33. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      What is Kari's phone number, and whats her favorite restaurant?

      Or, failing that, how much money would it take for her to pose in Playboy or somesuch?

      (Maybe we could take up a collection...)

    34. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More importantly, what happened to Scotty? And what's her phone number, and what's her favorite restaurant?

    35. Re:Oh this is an easy one... by thedji · · Score: 1

      Jump onto Google Suggest and type in 'mythbusters' and sure enough, after mythbusters, mythbusters.com and 'mythbusters torrent', is Mythbusters Kari! And who can blame them really :)

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  19. Idea behind MythBusters. by hal2814 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did you guys come up with the idea for the show or was it presented to you? If you came up with it yourself, how?

    1. Re:Idea behind MythBusters. by jbuilder · · Score: 1

      Go read Adam's interview at thesneeze. He explains the evolution of the show:

      http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000408.php

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    2. Re:Idea behind MythBusters. by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Great link. Thanks.

  20. Budget by wobedraggled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the most you can spend on one myth? What is the most spent so far on one myth? Thanks, and awesome show

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    1. Re:Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Man hours too. Do the producers cut you off if a myth doesn't seem to be going anywhere?

  21. q: by TheBeardIsRed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What was the pitch process like for the show and what myths did you propose to sell the TV execs on it?

    1. Re:q: by Slayback · · Score: 3, Informative

      From Jamie on how the show together (he didn't pitch it)...
      Jamie: I was interviewed a while back about one of the above machines by our current producer. He had the idea for the show, approached me and there you go. I realized that I am a bit too serious and unanimated to carry a show, and recommended Adam and I work as a team. It turned out to be a good idea.

      Source - http://www.joe-mammy.com/pages/features/hyneman/hy neman-interview.htm

  22. Impact on the World by verbatim_verbose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of all of the myths you have busted, has any one in particular stood out as changing the way much of the public thinks?

  23. Gilligan's Island by netglen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    QUESTION: Is it possible to create batteries out of coconuts like in all those episodes of Gilligan's Island?

    1. Re:Gilligan's Island by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They had an episode previously that addressed that very question I believe.

    2. Re:Gilligan's Island by Surt · · Score: 1

      Yes, using lemon juice as an acid and sea water for your salt, this is actually fairly straightforward. Not that you'll get anything like the power indicated on GI, but you can generate at least 10 watt this way, and light some small incandescent bulbs.

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    3. Re:Gilligan's Island by JourneymanMereel · · Score: 1

      Or better question: Is it really possible for one bumbling idiot to always foil the chance of.... /me looks around.

      Nevermind.

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    4. Re:Gilligan's Island by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      10 watts with how many coconuts? I'm sure it's not 1; if it's more than 1, why not be an arbitrary amount? Since P=VI you can get as many watts as you need, with more coconuts.

      How many volts do you get out of a coconut-lemonade-seawater battery, anyway?

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    5. Re:Gilligan's Island by Surt · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what the voltage is, the experiment I did just lit a 10 watt bulb for a short time (1min) with considerably less than a single coconut worth of volume.

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  24. Computer myths? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could you take on some computer myths? Like whether or not it was ever possible for a virus to destroy old monitors? It was rumored that if a virus could change the refresh rates to a too low or too high setting, you could fry some of the internal circuitry.

    1. Re:Computer myths? by stu72 · · Score: 1

      Well, that myth might be based on this reality:

      http://www.6502.org/users/andre/petindex/poke.html

      in short, on Commoodre Pets (builtin monitors) you could change a user accessible memory location and change the voltage to the screen.

    2. Re:Computer myths? by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Hehe, that was cool. I remember reading that some viruses could fry your Floppy Disk drive using a low DOS IO system call which controlled the START/STOP signals of the FDD.

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    3. Re:Computer myths? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Funny
      We accidently destroyed the monitor on a "Battlezone" arcade game by putting it in some kind of out-of-spec mode. We were trying out a bug that we'd heard could crash the game (with the permission of the owner, who was curious and watching). Basically, you get down to your last tank, and then keep dodging shots until the game sends a missile. You time it right so that when the game takes away the enemy tank and replaces it with the missile, there is a last shot from the enemy tank still in progress, and you run into that shot and die.

      What happens then is the game goes into demo mode. However, that missile is still there, and it kills the demo tank. The game then crashes, as the demo mode code did not expect the demo tank to die.

      What happened in our case was the monitor then went freaky, and that distinct smell and smoke that you get when a monitor fries appeared.

      We wanted to try this again after it was fixed to see if it was reproduceable, but the owner was against it as none of us could afford to cover the damages if it happened again (we were all poor college students).

    4. Re:Computer myths? by Persnickity · · Score: 1

      I remember the one about a virus being able to focus the electron beam of a CRT into a single point in the corner and set the monitor on fire. I always hoped that one was a myth.

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    5. Re:Computer myths? by Joe123456 · · Score: 0

      Yes old monitors will yet you overdiver them the newones just give you some kind of error

    6. Re:Computer myths? by Now.Imperfect · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure you could do that with Linux. xP

    7. Re:Computer myths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 100% possible, I fried an old multisync monitor once by setting the refresh to 200 Hz (at something like 800x600). It happened really quickly too, click, and it never switched on again. The powerLED would turn on, but the screen it self stayed black with that clicking sound that old multisyncs made clicking over and over.

    8. Re:Computer myths? by el-spectre · · Score: 2, Informative

      Shit, I did that with linux in '99 or so (no joke).

      Got this really cool, really bright white phosphor dot that took about a day to fade (despite the fact the monitor was unplugged).

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    9. Re:Computer myths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      back in the day, it was alleged that you could fry the relay that controlled the power to the tape drive on Radio Shack Colour Computers with a program that would turn it on and off rapidly for a long period of time (i can't remember if it was supposed to be minutes or hours).

    10. Re:Computer myths? by rips123 · · Score: 1

      Even better - I want to see a working (or disproven) tempest device! Theres a bit of a challenging myth!

    11. Re:Computer myths? by tqft · · Score: 1

      What about monitoring a server when it is /. ed ?

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    12. Re:Computer myths? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's totally possible.

      Especially with older monitors with fixed sync, or very limited sync range.

      I killed an SGI VGA monitor once running it on a PC outside of it's capabilities.

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  25. Myth or not? by Trigun · · Score: 1

    Can small objects dropped from high buildings or low flying aircraft seriously injure or kill people? I.E. Pennies from the CN Tower, or saletd peanuts from a crop duster?

    1. Re:Myth or not? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      It might help to actually watch the show, or at least search the previous show listings. They already did this one.

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    2. Re:Myth or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ever consider, you know, watching the show before commenting?

    3. Re:Myth or not? by Trigun · · Score: 1

      So, I guess that it would be a softball question then?

      So, what's the answer? I don't have the internet to look it up.

    4. Re:Myth or not? by __aaxwdb6741 · · Score: 2, Funny

      They busted this.
      The answer was no, and Adam even tried getting shot by a penny in the ass for the purpose of ... showing his ass on cable.

    5. Re:Myth or not? by fataugie · · Score: 1

      Good Lord!
      What if they made a Bullseye shot!

      Can you say OUCH!

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    6. Re:Myth or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you have the Internet to post this? You behind some freaky firewall that only allows /. ?

    7. Re:Myth or not? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I'll let you be lazy this time.

      The penny's terminal velocity is too low to cause any damage. It tumbles through the air.

      It would sting, like getting hit by a airsoft or paintball, but it wouldn't injure anyone seriously.

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    8. Re:Myth or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See the goatse ascii for a roughly accurate depiction of that episode:

      INSERT COIN HERE

    9. Re:Myth or not? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      It the Goatse guy for real, or a myth, like the great pumpkin?

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    10. Re:Myth or not? by __aaxwdb6741 · · Score: 1

      Goatse is for real.
      Actually, the activity of stretching ones anus is arousing for certain people.
      Concider buttplugs as a mild version of Goatse.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse

  26. Logic by duckpoopy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you realize that being unable to reproduce some event does not make that event impossible?

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    1. Re:Logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find the show entertaining, but that is one thing that has always annoyed me about it.

      "Myth Vindicators" is probably a better name. When they successfully replicate an event, that positively shows that it is possible; when they are unsuccessful, that doesn't "bust" anything.

    2. Re:Logic by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      Sssh. Ratings, my dear boy, ratings.

      One of the many pet peeves in my vast menagerie is the fact that I can’t take my cell phone with me when I visit a chemical plant, yet they “proved” that cell phones can’t ever ignite flammable vapors by screwing around with one and declaring it can’t happen.

      Hell, I know lots of people who have proven that you can’t get hurt driving drunk by using the same methodology. (Well, I don’t know quite as many of them as I used to, but we’ll just chalk Cheryl’s death up to coincidence; technically I guess you could say it was the pavement displacing half of her noodle, and not the driver’s stunning degree of impairment that caused her to assume room temperature that night.)

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    3. Re:Logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think they are most of the times quite clear when they make their conclusion in the end. When -alot- of research/time is invested in something, they most of the times show a more confident opinion on wether or not something is possible(which, imo, is justified); But I've seen enough episodes where they clearly admitted a busted myth to be not reproducable during their circumstances, and not showing a 'this is the answer'-attitude.

      But hey, at least they give it -some- scientific try, as opposed to (screentime-wasting) Brainiacs.

    4. Re:Logic by ecklesweb · · Score: 1

      to quote a fellow slashdotter... Your logic and reason are not welcome here.

    5. Re:Logic by Hergio · · Score: 1

      Not only do they mark myths as "busted" and "confirmed", but they've been know to mark them as "plausible" on plenty of occassions. I think I've even seen "possible, not not plausible". This blog has a nice list of previous myths and their outcomes, some include plausible.

      So to respond to your comment, I think the myth busters realize that and only mark a myth as busted or confirmed when its pretty much certain. Obviously they can't guarantee something will never happen or can't happen. There is probably some percentage of certainty that must be met for something to fall into a certain category.

      But then again, its a show, primarily for entertainment purposes with alittle bit of science thrown in.

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    6. Re:Logic by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      Do you realize that being unable to reproduce some event does not make that event impossible?

      Do you realize that declaring a myth to be "busted" on the show is more akin to calling it "implausible" than "impossible"?

  27. Critique by CrazySailor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How would you address the critique that you excessively extrapolate from a single data point to a generality?

    In particular I refer to a show where you were examining fuel mileage on SUVs with windows open vs. air conditioning. As an engineer, I believe that you failed to conduct adequate experimentation to demonstrate anything other than results at a single data point and you didn't make that clear to your viewers.

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    1. Re:Critique by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      There was a show recently where they went back to some of their shows due to public pressure and this was one they revisited.

      Essentially they found (and what you point out) that the speed they were driving was right in the middle between where using your windows or using A/C would have had an effect. I can't remember specifically but I think the magic numbers were if you're driving 45 mph or lower you should use your windows while if you're driving 55 or above use the A/C.

      For some reason I think their test fell between those two values.

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    2. Re:Critique by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 1

      Here's how I'd address it: the number of viewers we get does not depend on whether or not we wildly extrapolate, and it makes for better TV. Honestly, who cares? We're not curing cancer or something.

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    3. Re:Critique by afidel · · Score: 2, Informative

      It also very much depends on the coefficient of friction of the test car. By using a big old pickup that already has horrible airodynamics they severely lessened the penalty for having the windows open. In a modern car with low drag the penalty for having the windows open is substantially higher as a percentage change.

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    4. Re:Critique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wizard

    5. Re:Critique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the same episode I have problems with too.
      I'm not an engineer but I think like one sometimes.

      When you came up with the results I couldn't help but wonder how you could positivly come to those conculsions with so many variables being overlooked.
      I would have been satisfied if the vehicles roles were switched a few times to get a better sample to rule out the very real possiblity that both vehicles are not exactly identical. i.e. tire pressure differences, tire alignment, emmision control sensor calibration, battery charge (alternator requesting more energy from the engine than the other). All of which affect gas milage.

      Of all the episodes I have watched, this is one I would really like to see revisited.

    6. Re:Critique by the+frizz · · Score: 1
      How would you address the critique that you excessively extrapolate from a single data point to a generality?

      In particular I refer to a show where you were examining fuel mileage on SUVs with windows open vs. air conditioning. As an engineer, I believe that you failed to conduct adequate experimentation to demonstrate anything other than results at a single data point and you didn't make that clear to your viewers.

      Yes! Like the episode where you tried to test the myth of driving with the tailgate down increases gas mileage. After doing the parallel run of two new identical make pickup trucks, I thought you were going to repeat it by swaping the tail gate positions of the cars. One of the pickups could have had a defect or just normal variability could have led to the suprising difference observed. I know you can't test exhaustively and that's not going to make good television anyway. But remember to mention that proper science would have tried it again many times, but you didn't do it for reasons of cost or time.

      That being said, you've taught us to love for science. Thank-you. And do keep doing myths about energy efficency. You have the power to reduce world pollution.

    7. Re:Critique by CrazySailor · · Score: 1

      Bad science is bad science. And we certainly don't need for a TV show that's purporting to dispell urban legends to display poor technique.

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    8. Re:Critique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Low drag? Care to explain how a 2 ton brick can have "Low Drag" just because it has iPod'esq corners?

      I fear some people will do anything to justify driving a SUV, even pretending Myth Busters is science.

    9. Re:Critique by JoshWurzel · · Score: 1

      I noticed this the most on the the shark week "Jaws" episode. To determine how big great whites can get, they didn't talk to a single marine biologist. Instead, mythbusters took three data points, two of which were unverified, and came up with a "conclusion" which didn't match the third one. I.e. it was pulled from their butts.

      This totally wrecked the show for me, because I felt like they misinterpreted the myth. The myth isn't whether a great white shark can be 25 feet long. After all, its a MONSTER MOVIE. The myth is whether such a shark could do the things it did. And using the math used in the show, it was proven pretty conclusively.

    10. Re:Critique by VaderPi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many of the myths that they tackle on the show involve trying to recreate an event to ascertain if it is possible that the event ever took place. Do you ever feel uncomfortable about doing that? This does not disprove that the event ever happened. I will try to explain. You are making many assumptions about the event's preconditions and then trying to recreate them based on your assumptions in hopes that it will cause the event to happen. When the event does not happen, you conclude that the myth is "busted". But all you have really shown is that it is hard to recreate, that you did not know of all of the preconditions or that you failed to create the preconditions. This does not *prove* that the event *never* happened. All you have proved is that *you* were unable to recreate it. Are you ever worried that your less educated viewers will confuse your "busting" a myth as proof that it is not possible?

    11. Re:Critique by afidel · · Score: 1

      Uhh, I said low drag car, not SUV. For instance the Prius has a drag coefficient of .26 or the Taurus with a .29. Meanwhile the F150 has a drag coefficient of .42, which combined with it's large front end means that it is the equivilant of a flat bottomed bass boat dragging a 50lb anchor.

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    12. Re:Critique by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      In particular I refer to a show where you were examining fuel mileage on SUVs with windows open vs. air conditioning. As an engineer, I believe that you failed to conduct adequate experimentation to demonstrate anything other than results at a single data point and you didn't make that clear to your viewers.

      Heh, I saw that one. And they declared the myth busted. But, they were going 45MPH. This was when I actually questioned their scientific background, because it seems common knowledge that the air resistance will increase with the square of the speed while the power consumed by the AC will remain constant. If in fact the windows down increases drag over having the windows up (which is a no-brainer), then it follows that there is some speed at which you're better off running the AC with the windows up. It is apparently above 45MPH for the test vehicle, but given how quickly wind drag increases, I'd imagine that point is far less than highway speeds of 65MPH.

      I think they need a few physicists to help them on the show, much like CSI has actual scientists helping them. If they do have people helping them, someone needs a boot in the rear.

    13. Re:Critique by mean+pun · · Score: 1
      How would you address the critique that you excessively extrapolate from a single data point to a generality?

      Another example is the walking/running in the rain myth. They did that one twice, but in both cases the conclusion was dubious. For two reasons, in fact. The general setup (wear rubber suit with clothing over it, weigh clothing) is reasonable, but when the difference between two runs is in the order of one or two grams, I have serious doubts about the measurement accuracy. How about a longer run resulting in more substantial differences?

      Moreover, this needs more than two data points. Speed does make a difference: if you stand still in the rain you will get soaking wet, so running is obviously better than that. What about three or four other walking speeds?

    14. Re:Critique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They explained the crossover point on a later episode. The test speed (55mph) was just under the convergence point between windows up or AC on.

    15. Re:Critique by Dastardly · · Score: 1

      Yeah, once you prove a shark the size of the one in Jaws cannot exist what is the point of going any further. It would have been more interesting to experiment using a shark the size of the one in Jaws.

    16. Re:Critique by Tim · · Score: 1

      My personal favorite was the show where they built the toasting-and-buttering robot to test the myth that toast always falls butter-side down. They went through an enormous amount of work to generate lots of toasty data, and then didn't even bother with basic statistical analyses to see if their results were significant.

      The same thing goes for their test of plants' response to music (debunked by nearly every 4th-grade science fair project since the dawn of 4th-grade science fairs), and a few other programs. Even a simple t-test or confidence interval analysis would help with these types of things....

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    17. Re:Critique by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      They don't *always* do that. In fact, in many of the simpler myths, they test the myth several times before extrapolating into a generality. Take the toast-buttered-side-down myth for instance, where they tested their theory with some thousand slices of bread.

      The fact of the matter is that budgets and time are limited in many of the experiments, and sometimes they just *can't* test something for days at a time (especially when they already have spent days, just coming up with ways to do the tests). Publishing deadlines are fixed and inviolable, after all.

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    18. Re:Critique by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1

      I pointed out to my wife how flawed that one was just by doing a thought experiment where both cars were stationary and idling like at a stop light. Obviously the car with the a/c on will be using more energy and therefore more fuel than the car with the a/c off and the windows down. So at some speed, the lines cross and the a/c on becomes more efficent as they claimed. I was disappointed they didn't test enough to find that point or at least point out that it existed rather than presumptivly dismissing it as "busted."

  28. question by luchobucho · · Score: 1

    does semen have a really high protein content -- in that it would be healthy for a women to consume regularly?

    1. Re:question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in that it would be healthy for a women to consume regularly?

      Probably not, but it should be ok for you to continue though.

    2. Re:question by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      I read in the newspaper (dutch one) a long time ago that semen was very good for women who want to get pregnant since the body will get used to your dna. Or something like that.

      My gf of the time disagreed :(

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    3. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you trying to switch to the metric system ? A recent show featuring water rockets had the team trying to convert from the old school system to metric. Just wondering why even though I think the metric system makes more sense.

    4. Re:Question by fataugie · · Score: 1
      Can you really go blind from self pleasure?

      What about at least cross-eyed?

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    5. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Can you really go blind from self pleasure?

      I have to confess, when my computer's screen narrator read those words, I laughed so hard, I tripped over my walking cane and fell onto my guide dog. Good thing she's big enough to handle my weight....

    6. Re:Question by plover · · Score: 1
      Can you really go blind from self pleasure?

      Or can you at least test it until you need glasses? Oh, wait ... nevermind.

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    7. Re:question by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 2, Interesting
      does semen have a really high protein content -- in that it would be healthy for a women to consume regularly?

      This is more of a Straight Dope question, and it has indeed been dealt with there.

      OK, here's a question for the Mythbusters: ever thought of collaborating with others who do similar work? Say, bring in Cecil Adams as a guest Mythbuster? Or maybe Penn & Teller?

    8. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm over here, cloudkiller!

      Ok, maybe I should explain the joke: Dad walks into Johnny's room and catches him 'pleasuring himself'.
      Dad says, "Johnny! Cut that out - you could go blind doing that!"
      To which Johnny responds, "I'm over here, Dad!"

    9. Re:question by DickBreath · · Score: 1
      does semen have a really high protein content -- in that it would be healthy for a women to consume regularly?

      I can assure you that it is not unhealthy, as long as the person providing it is healthy.

      If the mythbusters decide to conduct any experiments (with any of the crew that I've seen so far), I might be interested in being a test subject. :-)
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    10. Re:Question by Canordis · · Score: 1

      I have the crawling notion that you got this idea for a question while 'watching' Kari build something...] *shudder*

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  29. Kari Byron by ThePolkapunk · · Score: 0

    Is that Kari Byron as hot in person as she is on tv?

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    1. Re:Kari Byron by NRAdude · · Score: 0

      Personally, I think she is cold -- or I'm happy to be at the top of the tallest mountain, freezing my arse. A previous post could reveal to you a biography and a dedicated photograph area to sister Kari.

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  30. Question by cloudkiller · · Score: 1

    Can you really go blind from self pleasure?

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  31. Source Material by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been a fan since your first season, and in that time, you've covered quite a few of the big, classic myths and legends. Are you ever concerned that you'll "use up" all the best source material, sort of running out of steam as it were? or is the internet such a fertile ground for kooks and bad jokes that you figure you can go on indefinitely (or at least until you accidentally cause the spontaneous destruction of the universe while trying to prove a theory about the second gunman in the Grassy Knoll)

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    1. Re:Source Material by dw09577 · · Score: 1

      I'm a big fan also, but I don't think they'll run out of material. Any new tech, especially on slashdot, spawns new ideas about what can/could or what can't/won' be possible with the new tech. For example, everyone knows about the JATO/rocket car myth, which Mythbusters investigated. But combine tht with new tech, and we get something like "Can a hybrid car reach 100mpg?" or something. Other examples of new tech being used for Mythbusters fodder would be: Is it possible to turn a profit at your house (PV panels, combined with extreme energy-savings) Highest altitude attainable for the price of a Honda Civic (borrow Burt Rutan for an episode) The un-foolable lie detector (try to lie while being scanned for "crime-scene" recognition) I could go on for quite a while. Now these aren't technically myths, but I think that they could still keep the spirit of the show. IMHO, tech could lend more to the mythbusters than they could ever hope to approach. I also agree with your point that they are having to dig deeper these days for the good myths, such as the civil war rocket episode. They'll probably have to start picking up 'Modern-day Myths/Challenges' eventually. This is something I try to do myself, and it's wildly entertaining. (i.e. "I'll bet I could build a pulsejet...yeah....")

    2. Re:Source Material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And please test the hydorgen car explosion thing. I really don't think that a hydrogen car is any more dangerous or explosive than a gasoline car duirng or after a wreck. You tested shooting a gas tank. now shoot a tank full hydrogen. Maybe some people will get over their irrational fears and progress can keep, well progressing.

  32. Do what now? by asveepay · · Score: 1

    What is the ratio of myths that you actually get to test vs myths that are untestable or at least not practical to test? The show takes a lot of unorthodox approaches to testing but there must be a number of myths that can't be tested without a huge budget or some difficult-to-acquire-or-build technology.

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  33. I've always wondered about the myth... by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 1

    Is it true that there is a lip behind that mustache?

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  34. To the Mythbusters whom it may concern- by dslauson · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dear Mythbusters-
    It seems like it must be tempting to definitively call a myth "busted", even though the reality is that you just couldn't duplicate the results. Whether something is fact or fiction, scientifically a myth probably shouldn't be considered "busted" unless you have empirically show it to be implausable.

    You guys generally do a good job of this, though on occasion I've seen an episode where you seemed a little premature. What can you say about where you draw the line, and do you feel like you generally do a good job of following the scientific method to get your results?

    Also, can you get me that redhead's phone number?

    1. Re:To the Mythbusters whom it may concern- by corbettw · · Score: 1

      It seems like it must be tempting to definitively call a myth "busted", even though the reality is that you just couldn't duplicate the results. Whether something is fact or fiction, scientifically a myth probably shouldn't be considered "busted" unless you have empirically show it to be implausable.

      You believe in Intelligent Design, don't you?

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    2. Re:To the Mythbusters whom it may concern- by dslauson · · Score: 1

      I know you're joking, but the answer is no.

      I'm just saying that you can't say something didn't happen just by trying it yourself a couple times, right? Like, let's say you got a woman's phone number at Blockbuster video the other night, so I go there for the next three nights and ask every woman in the place for a date. If it doesn't work for me, I can't say that it's "busted" and that it never happened for you. Right?

      I'm not saying we should all believe something just because it hasn't been disproved. That's what believing in intelligent design is. I'm saying we should not say something has been disproved based on the results of a handful of not-so-rigorous experiments that failed to duplicate it.

      Watch the show looking specifically for this sometime. You'll see what I mean.

    3. Re:To the Mythbusters whom it may concern- by NMZNMZNMZ · · Score: 1

      Agree'd. One example is the myth they busted that you can fool the breathalizer by eating various substances. They got drunk, then ate a few different things (something like 5 dfferent materials), none of which changed the results, and declared the myth busted. Well, Adam did anyway; Jamie seemed reluctant to declare it busted.

    4. Re:To the Mythbusters whom it may concern- by jtorkbob · · Score: 1

      I think they do a good job of explaining just how 'busted' a myth is. Sometimes they will say... this myth is not possible, as stated, because of this small detail, but plausible if you change 'x' (like in 'escape slide parachute'). Sometimes they will say totally busted, like with the rear-window tissue box.

      The explanations are more useful than the confirmed/plausible/busted distinction.

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  35. Kari and Grant by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are Kari and Grant a couple? I noticed Grant let Kari use his TI-30Xa calculator. I can't imagine such a sacrifice would be made lightly.

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  36. Sound Of The John by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

    I watched the episode where you guys tested the bit about certain low-frequency sounds causing a person's bowels to loosen, making them soil themselves. On the show you had a guy in diapers stand between several speakers and you exposed him to several low-range frequencies. But you only exposed him to integer frequencies- 4hz, 5hz, whatever. If you exposed him to such a small set of possible frequencies, even over the range you chose, that would seem to make it highly unlikely that, if the myth were true, you would have found the exact frequency to make your guinea pig soil himself. On the show the myth was declared busted. Because you did not test the continous band of frequencies, instead stepping from one selected frequency to the next, I ask you this: Did you, in fact, not bust the myth in that case?

    1. Re:Sound Of The John by Josh+Booth · · Score: 1

      Your body shouldn't be that good of a resonator that it can tell the difference between two frequencies closer than one hertz.

    2. Re:Sound Of The John by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

      I could see that you might not be able to perceive differences closer than that, but I think the deal with the show was that they were jumping over a pretty good range of frequencies- not just 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, but 1, 5, 10, 20, and so on. I agree that, whatever the magic frequency that may make this happen to a person, nearby frequencies may produce a similar but lesser result. My overall point was that the show jumped around on the scale way too much for them to have busted the myth.

  37. Strictly speaking ... by s20451 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me firstly say that I like your show as entertainment. However, I do not like it as a form of true skepticism or as science. What you do is fun and interesting, but it is not rigorous. I'm thinking particularly of the time you tried to flip a taxi with a jet engine, which failed on your show, but which actually happened in real life. So it's not obvious that a failure on your show means anything.

    My question is this: are you taking yourselves too seriously as "myth busters"? (And a suggestion: why not let a physics prof supervise some of your stunts?)

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    1. Re:Strictly speaking ... by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What you do is fun and interesting, but it is not rigorous.

      Obviously, when they get positive results, they're meaningful. When they get negative results, they're showing falsification within the space that they're testing, which is usually well within any sane real-world conditions.

      It may not be True Science, but scientific research as normally practiced is a lot closer to Mythbusters than to your Platonic ideal.

    2. Re:Strictly speaking ... by CvD · · Score: 1

      Yeah, indeed. On the awesome British car show 'Top Gear', they actually used a 747 with 2 engines running at full power and pushing 2 cars into the airflow. Both cars flipped many times and it was quite clear that the jet vs taxi myth is confirmed, even though it failed on the show.

    3. Re:Strictly speaking ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Mod the parent up.

      Although Myth Busters is quite entertaining my school science teacher would fail me if I tried to pass off what is done as actual science. You do little or no research before attempting to "debunk" a myth.

      For example you disproved a myth that a lot of people marching in unison could cause a bridge to sway. You mention Roman legions used to march out of rythm when crossing bridges in order to avoid this. What you didn't mention was that this was proven with the opening of the Millenium Bridge in Londom where hundreds of people walking across it caused it to sway by several metres.

      In another show you nearly made me cry when you tried to show that a portable toilet couldn't explode if someone tried to light a match in it. At one point one of the female presenters said "have we proven methane isn't flamable?"!!! You science belongs in an Kansas school room! ;)

    4. Re:Strictly speaking ... by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The AC-vs-windows open myth was one of the few I found to be experimentally unsound, but since it's Mythbusters, I let it slide.

      I sometimes wonder what was their most memorable Buster moment, like the time he fell off the life raft while it was being hoisted by the helicopter. Adam seemed genuinely upset at the carnage...

      Jamie and Adam may not have flipped a car with jet engines, but Top Gear did. It doesn't take much to flip a 2CV, but the Mundano, er, Mondeo was another matter.

      ...laura

    5. Re:Strictly speaking ... by plover · · Score: 1
      At which point did they claim to be scientists, or to even be following the scientific method? In the opening credits, the announcer specifically states that between them they have thirty years in the special effects business. Neither has claimed to hold a doctorate, and I've never even heard mention of a degree. When they do use the word "science", it's usually in a sarcastic sense, or as the punchline to a joke.

      Yet you have inferred that because they sometimes follow methods that scientists use (double blind tests, control samples, statistical sampling, etc.) or that they occasionally wear white lab coats and play with test tubes that they are somehow a "form of ... science"? I'd suggest not evaluating them so critically.

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    6. Re:Strictly speaking ... by Martin71a · · Score: 1

      They may not be scientist but perhaps they slept at a Holiday Inn the night before the show.

    7. Re:Strictly speaking ... by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      You actually want some crusty old physics professor to come in and help in the show?

      Damn, most physics professors that I had in college would instantly cause narcolepsy in more than 45% of the viewing audience. Not good for ratings if you ask me.

      Maybe a guest appearance by Bill Nye? That might have a little more camera appeal.

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    8. Re:Strictly speaking ... by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Ok, so did you watch that episode all the way through or did you just turn it off after they started to melt the car with the turbines used to produce heavy winds for movies?

      The company that was insuring the DC10 [may have been a 727 don't remember which] refused to allow them to conduct the experiment because of fear of damaging the plane. The turbines that they ended up using were clearly not strong enough to do the job but they said ON THE SHOW that this had actually happened in I believe Brazil somewhere. There were quite disappointed that they couldn't do it but shit happens.

      To be fair to you s20451 there's a chance that I saw this on one of their episodes where they revisit old myths because of viewer consternation but I can't say for sure.

    9. Re:Strictly speaking ... by adrianmonk · · Score: 1
      Let me firstly say that I like your show as entertainment. However, I do not like it as a form of true skepticism or as science. What you do is fun and interesting, but it is not rigorous. I'm thinking particularly of the time you tried to flip a taxi with a jet engine, which failed on your show, but which actually happened in real life. So it's not obvious that a failure on your show means anything.

      I agree, and I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't always sound so authoritative when they say a myth is definitely busted. To give them some credit, they are always so emphatic about it that the emphatic part seems scripted. It's almost as if the tech people know that their simple tests aren't conclusive and would prefer to say that but someone in production decided it makes better television if they are very confident and enthusiastic about their results every time and they never say they're uncertain, even if they are.

      Of course, you have to remember that it is a TV show. Even if these guys want to give all the technical details and the real scoop on what the implications are of their research, there is no way that the network actually is going to allow them to go into "boring" stuff like that. If you look at Discovery Channel and TLC and all the other learning-oriented networks (including some of the PBS stuff) honestly, you'll see that it is a very shallow kind of learning. Yes, you can pick up some real information from these shows, but not very much of it considering the time you spend. Often, I think the goal of these network is not for the viewer to learn something but for the viewer to feel like they are learning something. Because it feels good to think you've learned something, even if you haven't. (On the other hand, if you actually do end up learning something, I don't think the networks have a problem with that.)

    10. Re:Strictly speaking ... by hasrat · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'd like to see some PAC analysis for the results and theoretical bounds for both probability and accuracy of the results being valid.

    11. Re:Strictly speaking ... by Dastardly · · Score: 1

      What you didn't mention was that this was proven with the opening of the Millenium Bridge in Londom where hundreds of people walking across it caused it to sway by several metres.

      Umm... Did you bother to even watch that episode? They showed the Millenium bridge as well as Tacoma narrows as examples of how resonances can cause bridges to sway or fail. The millenium bridge was particularly interesting because it was actually a breeze that caused the initial swaying and they found that the people walking across it would subconsciously sway in unison with the bridge amplifying the swaying.

  38. Hacking a computer through the power cord? by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    Is it possible with today's electrical grid that you can hack into a person's computer and extract data through the computer's power cord?

    PS your show where you built a super-fast playing card thrower was great, especially when you drew blood on Adam's arm. Mythbusters is an excellent show!!

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    1. Re:Hacking a computer through the power cord? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I at least managed to do a DoS attack on my computer using nothing but the power cord. The trick is to pull it.

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    2. Re:Hacking a computer through the power cord? by KnightWolfJK · · Score: 0

      Wow! l33t h4xx0r!!

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    3. Re:Hacking a computer through the power cord? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There has at least been showed that certain smart cards could be attacked by modulating the power supply so that the processor didn't function correctly during some instructions.

  39. Blasting Zone Myth by fatboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey guys, love the show. I was wondering why you have not tackled the "Blasting Zone" myth. You know, were you are asked to turn off 2-way radio equipment and Cell Phones when passing through a "Blasting Zone". I ask this because several years ago there was an accidental blast in my home town and many speculated on the radio that it was caused by RF from a cellphone. Several of us amateur radio operators kind of laughed at that because there are few guys that supposedly tried to set off a blasting cap with radios, just to see if it could be done. They went so far as to even wire the blasting cap into a 100 watt VHF (low band ~50Mhz) radio's antenna jack. Nope it didn't go off. Using inverse square law, it seems very unlikely that a cellphone or 2-way radio could set off a blasting cap at any distance.

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    1. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Detritus · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by fatboy · · Score: 1

      You know the difference between an intrinsically safe Motorola radio and one that is not? The insurance policy. Don't quit *YOUR* day job.

      If you notice, the largest hazards are multikillowatt MF transmitters (AM broadcast band) and HF transmitters. This is due to the frequency, power involved and the length of wire on the detonators.

      Good luck getting a 100 watt VHF or UHF 2-way radio to set off a blasting cap at ANY distance.

      The Inverse square law, it's not just a good idea, it's the law!

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    3. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Detritus · · Score: 1

      I prefer to get my safety information from engineers, not random "experts".

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    4. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by liznin · · Score: 1

      We have a similar show in the UK called Brainiacs. They tried to blow up a trailer (caravan) filled with petrol fumes using the signals from cellphones. They couldn't get it to blow - Myth Busted I guess

    5. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by schnuf · · Score: 1

      To say that Brainiacs is similar to Mythbusters is an insult to Mythbusters. Brainiacs is a load of puerile nonsense, that insults the viewers intelligence.

      Mythbusters have busted the cellphone + fumes = explosion myth twice already anway.

    6. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by fatboy · · Score: 1

      Hey I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying it can't be done with those specific frequencies and power levels.

      The safety recommendations you posted are correct, because they are conservative to the point of absurdity.

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    7. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Detritus · · Score: 1
      From a Canadian mining accident report:
      It is believed that the probable cause of the accident was the shorting of the accessory connectors when they touched against a metal clip, tools on the miner's belt or with the metal duplex wire spool. This in turn activated a "Man Down" high energy signal burst of 4.56 watts. It was demonstrated that sufficient RF energy could be coupled into the electric detonator circuit to heat the bridge wire to ignition with 4.56 watts of power only 8 feet away with the antenna touching or near the duplex wire.

      "It should be noted that blasting industry standards recommend a minimum standoff safety distance of 10 feet for a radio transmitter operating at 400 megahertz and 5 watts. (IME 20) This standard was written many years ago and is based on older electric blasting cap bridge wire circuit designs. With today's more sensitive electric blasting cap bridge wire circuits, it would be prudent and advisable to double this distance."

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    8. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

      ah, but brainiac confirmed the 'man-wearing-a-nylon-tracksuit-in-a-plastic-bucket + fumes' myth.
      BTW, most of us know that brainiac isn't a science show and isn't trying to be a science show, it's just a good excuse to blow caravans up.

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    9. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      What about scalar wave constructive interference between multiple transmitters?


      heh, just kiddin'!

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    10. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      The inverse square law: Not just your friend, it's, um, your friend.
      -russ

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    11. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      It's got a more scientific outlook than Mythbusters though. It explains *why* something will or won't work, in simple enough language... all mythbusters does is say 'well, that worked..' and end the programme with no explanation.. which kinda irritates me.

      At its heart it's an excuse to blow things up though, or get drunk (the hangover cure episode was great.. I already knew the outcome, having done the experiment myself as a student, but it was fun to watch).

    12. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by fatboy · · Score: 1

      At a distance of 8 feet with a 5 watt UHF handheld radio the RF power density would be .0285 mw/cm2.

      Dosen't take much power at all to set off those blasting caps. Seems as if lightning would be much more a potential hazard if they can be set off with microwatts of power.

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    13. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by MoobY · · Score: 1

      There was an episode where they tested whether a cell phone could blow up a chamber filled with gas. It took a whole lot more than a cell phone for the cabin to blow up.

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    14. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by MSZ · · Score: 1

      It's stupid "let's blow up stuff and do toilet/puke jokes" thing. Compared to "Brainiac", "Mythbusters" are pure science.

      "Brainiac" cheats. Remember the show with breaking glass with sound? MB did it with power amplifiers and sound. "Brainiac" did it with a hidden (not very well hidden) blasting cap. If I were really bored, I could find dozens of other examples. Oh, and that fake Tina Turner...

      Simply put, "Brainiac" is a piece of shit with some bimbos in it.

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    15. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While conceivably a cell phone could set off a det just like they can interfere with an aeroplane's electronics, the phone would have to be a bit too close for comfort. Like, say, when they blew up that cement truck...

      The real deal with RF and dets is that they sometimes use RF dets as opposed to electric or the old cowboy burnin fuse dets. Obviously they use a specific frequency, but they still need to be careful, so please turn off your transmitters...

      As an aside, I used to work in an underground mine. They have dets with inbuilt delays (millisec and half sec graduations up to 6 secs). I always thought that the 6 second ones could make a poor man's grenade. But instead of a kathump, thump, thump, thump, there was often a kathump, thump, th-thump, thump, and you would never know which one had mis-timed. Wyle E. Coyote???

    16. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, and sorry I didn't reply earlier (I can't post at work). I actually work for the US Navy [indirectly with NOSSA] on this sort of thing.

      I personally would love to see this tested by anyone outside their Lab, as there is a lot of disbelief. The Navy has experienced a few accidents in the past that were strongly believed to be EM related. I believe there have been small scale tests that have been positive. Unfortunately, I don't think this information is readily source-able on line given its nature...

      I believe the testing done is based on using RDX as a standard (not particularly EM sensitive) but don't quote me on that. It's something I could probably find out easily enough, but I have to go back to work first. I know there are some people who were going to test passive RFID readers on ordnance to see if it would react, given the massive safety distance the readers should require.

      Mythbusters may have some issues with getting material necessary for testing. Most of it is UN Class 1.1 (primer type) explosive which is heavily controlled, typically because of it's instability (besides the obvious).

    17. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by fatboy · · Score: 1

      One would think if such explosives were so volatile, as to be set off by passive RFID tags, the military would use EM pulses to detonate enemy explosives.

      I agree with you, I would love to see this actually tested.

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    18. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by fatboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      After doing research based on your post, I see that the current required to cause detonation in this case is 1/2 an amp. The only way that much current could be induced on that cable is if the antenna came into direct contact with the wire.

      Seems to me they should install an inductor at the blasting cap to decouple RF from passing though it if such low current can cause detonation.

      I would not want to work around this stuff. From my calculations, these caps can be detonated with as little as 1 volt present across the blasting cap.

      However, I stand by my accertion that a cellphone could not cause detonation.

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    19. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Builder · · Score: 1

      Sorry, there was some speculation that it might be something _other_ than a caravan wrecking show? Anything that the host does seems to involve destroyed caravans - heck, even racing radio controlled cards on Top Gear last week ended up with a wrecked caravan :)

    20. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by liznin · · Score: 1

      Hey Guys - I was only comparing the experiment (and I use that term loosely!), not comparing the shows - Mythbusters blows far more stuff up than Brainiacs!

    21. Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, but most actual munitions have a metal shell and are grounded or shielded to protect them from being near radar arrays and what not (think Aegis firing from front cell--right in front of the fwd radar and helm). However, maintenance and preparing a piece of munition for use requires cracking the case, and can expose the raw unshielded explosive inside. This is especially true of rocket propellants / Class 1.3 stuff. Since this is the worst case scenario, this is what we have to assume in safety testing.

  40. Myth Creation by mrthoughtful · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have you attempted to create any myths of your own?

    There is a myth that myths/new words can be created and propagated very easily, such as the famous myth relating to the Dublin origins of the word "Quiz" - similar to memes such as "All your Base" -though you tend to prefer big explosion myths (and I know why!)

    So - why not see if you can create a myth (that involves explosions, and bust your own myth, and then confirm the myth of being able to create myths?!

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    1. Re:Myth Creation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like paradox waiting to happen.

      I'm in.

      [Can't login at work...Just started and haven't found a way around it yet.]

      IJ

  41. Budget restrictions? by Mr+Bill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What sort of budget limits do you guys have for your show these days? I remember seeing some earlier episodes where money really seemed to be an issue (spending an extra $700 on helium for the weather baloon lawn chair seemed to cause some concern). Whereas these days you guys seem to have no problem blowing up cement trucks or catapulting a boom lift.

    As a corollary: Which experiment(s) ran rediculously over budget, and which one was surpirisingly cheap to pull off?

    1. Re:Budget restrictions? by StormCrow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It appears that they get a lot of the biggest budget items donated. Any large vehicle that's been destroyed/damaged has been donated by some fan or another. I'm also sure that there is a sliding scale of budget for "cooler" (read blowing things up) myths.

    2. Re:Budget restrictions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also along that line, is a mustache ride fundraiser from Jamie in the works?

    3. Re:Budget restrictions? by brianc · · Score: 1
      What sort of budget limits do you guys have for your show these days? I remember seeing some earlier episodes where money really seemed to be an issue

      Along this same line... Wouldn't it be easier on the post-production budget
      if you spent $10 on some paint and/or duct tape up front, instead of blurring logos and such after filming?

      The blurred image is really an annoyance...

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  42. Flu Season myth by jeoin · · Score: 1

    So Adam or Jamie can you catch the flu from the flu bug vaccine?

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    1. Re:Flu Season myth by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      I can bust that one - the one time I had a flu shot in school, I was so sick the next day I couldn't get out of bed. That was in November of whatever year that was. That Christmas I had flu again, then again around Easter. I won't claim the 2nd and 3rd times were exclusively due to the vaccine, but the 1st time was just too much of a coincidence. And it wasn't just me, either - at least a dozen other kids went down with flu the day after the shots.

  43. Geek myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    When are you going to test the "myth" that Geeks can't get laid. Bonus points if the "testing" involves Kari.

    1. Re:Geek myth by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

      If the testing involves Kari, then the result will be "Myth Confirmed".

    2. Re:Geek myth by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      Um, but Kari *is* a geek, so you're basing your test on a too-small sample size if geeks lay with other geeks.
      -russ
      p.s. creepy dolls.

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  44. From the Front vs. From Behind by unipus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey guys, great show! Just wondering, what's are the best and worst aspects of moving from behind the scenes to in front of the lens?

    1. Re:From the Front vs. From Behind by zoomzit · · Score: 1

      umm... I don't think I want to know about their preferred sexual positions...

  45. Question by lunchlady55 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the most tedious part of busting myths? I'm sure alot of the fun and games gets on camera, but what are we not seeing and why is it still important?

  46. is it true?!!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is windows really better then linux?

    1. Re:is it true?!!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yes.

      - Adam.

    2. Re:is it true?!!? by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      at least you got the sequence right

      Windows then Linux

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  47. The Da Vinci Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who would win in a fight, Mythbusters or Dan Brown?

  48. Did the Idea for this show come up.... by Evil+W1zard · · Score: 0

    after you guys weren't casted for The Lone Gunmen series?

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  49. Myths you cannot do? by jessejay356 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have there been any myths that were either too expensive or dangerous that you just would not do?

    1. Re:Myths you cannot do? by turgid · · Score: 1

      What, you mean like Noah's Ark, and getting gunned down by some farmers from Kansas?

  50. Actually, I have a burning question. by numbski · · Score: 1

    Will a cat with peanut butter spread across its back REALLY hover due to the laws governing that a cat will always land on its feet and peanut butter will always hit the floor?

    How marketable would flying cats be?

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    1. Re:Actually, I have a burning question. by numbski · · Score: 1

      I didn't see that one, but did they use peanut butter? I'm not just being semantical here either. I think it is fair to say that peanut butter has a higher density and higher weight by volume, ergo toast with peanut butter may very well always fall "buttered side down". ;D

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    2. Re:Actually, I have a burning question. by IngramJames · · Score: 1

      they already did the buttered toast falls butter side down myth, and it was busted

      Just curious, as I've never seen the show; how was it busted? I've seen numerous articles which appear plausable and well researched, showing that toast, when falling from table height, has enough time to rotate to butter-side-down, but not enough to rotate back to butter-side-up.

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    3. Re:Actually, I have a burning question. by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      Think about this, dude. You haven't invented hovering cats, you've invented perpetual motion! As soon as the peanut butter effect happens and the cat starts to flip over, the cat's instincts to land on its feet take over and the cat rotates around, but this triggers the peanut butter effect, so the cat rotates around again. All that you need to do is hook up the cat to a generator, and .... profit!
      -russ

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    4. Re:Actually, I have a burning question. by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Actually flying cats and buttered toast do not compare. Cats have muscles - and at some very low height experiments using slow motion photography you do see that a cat has an innate sense of up and down and will right itself before it hits the ground.

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    5. Re:Actually, I have a burning question. by CuriHP · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what they found. One of their first rigs tested toast that was basically just falling off a table and it was heavily skewed in favor of butter side down due to just that fact. The issue there was that the butter had nothing to do with it. They got the same result with no butter. They retested using a different system that dropped it from a greater height, edge on (i.e. toast held vertically before dropping), to see if the butter actually had any effect. The answer was that the butter did not affect it at all.

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    6. Re:Actually, I have a burning question. by MSZ · · Score: 1

      They busted a myth, that vertically dropped toast would tend to fall buttered side down. However, that isn't the way typically toast falls.

      This was one of the worst pieces of their work.

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  51. Are you Scientists or Special Effects Builders? by arnie_apesacrappin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When watching the show, the introduction emphasizes your experience in the special effects industry but I think I recall you referring to yourselves as scientists on occasion. The reason I ask for clarification is that you routinely ignore good scientific methods. The best example I can think of off the top of my head was the windows down vs. air conditioning myth. I know you revisited the myth, but your initial tests were poor science at best. Couldn't you have some sort of science advisor to at least make sure that there is some sort of logical sense to your experiments?

    Even with my harsh comments, I'm not disrespecting your show. I have it setup to record on my DVR every week. I mostly enjoy the shows but occasionally your lack of scientific method is maddening. I realize you are probably cutting a lot out for the sake of TV, but could you at least point out that there are some possibilities you aren't testing?

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  52. Who's Who? by PlainBlack · · Score: 1

    Of the people on the show, who was already working at M5 prior to MythBusters, and who was brought in just for the show?

    1. Re:Who's Who? by tepp · · Score: 1

      Kari was there from the beginning, in Season 1 she has a non-speaking mostly non-camera role (you see her in the shop a few times doing work) - and then her butt was the one they used for the toilet seat vacuum myth - enlarged by a huge amount and made out of rubber. She's definately an original pre-show M5 employee.

      Scotty was brought in for the show (and later left), Grant was brought in. I don't remember Tori's story.

      Also I don't believe Adam was/is an M5 employee, but rather a friend of Jamie's, and Jamie owns M5.

      If I remember correctly. I am a big fan and Adam is just the cutest thing... don't ever change Adam :)

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      Tepp
  53. Science?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd hardly call what they do at Mythbusters 'science' - interesting perhaps but hardly good science. Even they are the first to say that they're not scientists. (I'm sure they said it. Someone go check their library of recorded shows and find the episode and timecode where they said it. :)

  54. My Question by IvanGirderboot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How did you find your Interns/assistants, or did they find you? ..Are they hiring?

    Great Show Guys!

  55. Testing Confirmed Myths by rhkaloge · · Score: 1

    In the myth that a lighting strike can kill you through a telephone, you went to a lot of trouble testing and confirming they myth, only to mention that lighting kills a number of people each year, some of them talking on the phone. Was the statistical data available before or after you tested the myth, and if it was available before hand, did you just go ahead with the myth because it looked cool? And what would you have done if your results contradicted the statistics?

  56. Re:My question for the Mythbusters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the insertion of a small furry rodent, such as a gerbil, into one's rectum safe?
    Is it even possible?
    If so, is it an effective means of stimulus?

  57. I can answer this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That guy Buster has been pretty messed up a couple of times. I think he's had just about every part replaced.

    1. Re:I can answer this one... by broggyr · · Score: 1

      Adam has received a lot of non-intended pain & suffering - sorry man! :)

      --
      Irony? Yea, it's like goldy and bronzy, only it's made of iron!
    2. Re:I can answer this one... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      And just about as much that was fully intended.

      I do wonder whether Adam prefers the various mishaps that have happened to him, or the nausea chair experiments that lasted several days.

      --
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  58. Time and money by GoNINzo · · Score: 1
    There are some myths out there that cannot be proved without a massive undertaking and amazing funding. Is there any one in particular that you would love to take on if money and time was no object?

    Keep up the great work guys, I love your show. My favorite is when you guys were finding the gas-air ratio and had the 'accident'. heh

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    Gonzo Granzeau
    "Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
  59. Just gotta say by GmAz · · Score: 0

    Question: Does a watchpot really never boil? No really, does it? Ok, I have no question but, thank you for creating a great show that the whole family can watch. Its hard to find a show that doesn't have sex and cussing everytime you turn around. Not to mention the countless myths that even I thought was true (Espically a more current one about driving your truck with your tailgate down, never again for me).

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    1. Re:Just gotta say by Peyna · · Score: 1

      I don't know about a watchpot boiling, but I have stood in the kitchen and watched a pot of water boil before.

      So yes, a watched pot will boil.

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    2. Re:Just gotta say by GmAz · · Score: 0

      Yes, I figured it did since I too have watch a pot start to boil. But hey, I am not very imaginative in the morning.

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      Click Click Bloody Click PANCAKES!
    3. Re:Just gotta say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stupid

  60. swallows by peculiarmethod · · Score: 0, Redundant

    What IS the easiest way to get a swallow to carry a coconut?

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    ** "It's not my job to stand between the people talking to me, and the ones listening to me." -- Pego the Jerk
    1. Re:swallows by ledow · · Score: 1

      Gotta be done...

      African or European?

    2. Re:swallows by broggyr · · Score: 1

      African Swallows are non-migratory...

      --
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    3. Re:swallows by webhat · · Score: 1

      This has already appeared on slashdot, somebody actually tried to solve this conundrum.

      For those who hadn't seen it
      The original

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      'I am become Shiva, destroyer of worlds'
  61. Repeatable Experiments by Aggrazel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a father of a 7 year old who absolutely loves your show. We have it on our tivo and I'm constantly pausing the show to ask him what he thinks will happen in your experiments.

    You start every show with "Don't try this at home" but sometimes there are experiments that you do which you could try this at home. Have you ever considered having a show where you say, "DO Try this at home?" Its fun to see my child get such a love of science in such a fun way.

    1. Re:Repeatable Experiments by Pyrosz · · Score: 1

      Although I really love the explosions :) I endorse your idea of them doing an episode with a do it at home theme. Mod UP parent.

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      An optimist believes we live in the best world possible; a pessimist fears this is true.
    2. Re:Repeatable Experiments by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Funny

      As fun as that would be, I'll be you anything that some slack-jawed yokel will fsck it up and lose another limb. Litigation-ilarity will ensue.

    3. Re:Repeatable Experiments by mrtroy · · Score: 1

      Put some "Mentos, the fresh maker" into a test tube. (like 10-15)

      Get a 2L bottle of Coke (preferably diet, so theres less sticky mess)

      Drop all the mentos into the bottle at once, and get a mini fountain for a second.

      Fun science ;)

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    4. Re:Repeatable Experiments by Sketch · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if you can still buy Jolt, but if you can, buy a bottle and add the contents of 1 pixy stick. Make sure you do this outside or over a sink.

      (I imagine just plain sugar would probably work just as well, but never tried it.)

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    5. Re:Repeatable Experiments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't your son object to you constantly interrupting the program? The people I (barely) know that have been brought up with the stress that comes with that kind of constant learning do not interact well with the rest of humanity when they grow up.

    6. Re:Repeatable Experiments by big_groo · · Score: 1

      This is an excellent suggestion. Editors -- please include this question to the Mythbusters.

    7. Re:Repeatable Experiments by Aggrazel · · Score: 1

      No, he enjoys the guessing, he's right more often than he's wrong and he likes to try to explain what he thinks will happen and why.

    8. Re:Repeatable Experiments by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Thinking bad! Consume good! Me go watch tripe on NBC they tell me what think. Then I talk with friends about what fictional character slept with what fictional character, and live worthless existence.

    9. Re:Repeatable Experiments by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

      Speaking of pixie sticks, here's a recipe for something me and my friends like to call "The Incredible Hulk"

      1 Forty of Colt 45
      1 Pixie Stick

      Dump contents of pixie stick into forty. Watch as beer (I use beer in the loosest sense of the word here) shoots out of the top, and the remaining beer turns a nice shade of green.

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      Why not fork?
  62. Does God exist? by digitaldc · · Score: 0

    If so, what does he or she look like?

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    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
    1. Re:Does God exist? by ericcantona · · Score: 0

      more importantly, is it true, or is it a myth that s/he plays dice ?

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    2. Re:Does God exist? by fdiskne1 · · Score: 1

      If so, what does he or she look like?

      Honestly, you must not be paying attention. She looks exactly like Alanis Morissette. ;-P

      --
      But why is the rum gone?
  63. err by ericcantona · · Score: 0

    Q. which is better: vi or emacs ?. I want to KNOW,
    with conclusive and definative proofs. Oh and, err
    Q. Is every language accepted by some nondeterministic algorithm in polynomial time also accepted by some deterministic algorithm in polynomial time ?
    sorry, thats two important questions, isn't it

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  64. Budget/Most Expensive Myth/Explosions! by lividdr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Love the show - it's spawned some serious fights with my wife over control of the TV at 9PM on Wednesdays (stupid "Lost" ending up in the same slot!). You guys have just about every geek's dream job - everything from mangling crash test dummies to driving a police cruiser by remote.

    From watching the show, it looks like you've got a relatively tight budget on a lot of the myths you bust. Lots of the gear is picked up from junkyards, donated, or just lying around the warehouse. What was the most expensive myth to bust? What's the single most expensive piece of equipment you've had to buy while busting a myth?

    Then there's the explosions. Things go boom a lot on the show. What's the biggest yield explosion you've ever detonated - I'm thinking of the cement truck that disintegrated in one particular episode, but there was also the critter in the drain pipe, the explosions in the pressurized airliner, the log cannon, the methane in the honey bucket...

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    Give a man a beer and he wastes an hour. Teach a man to brew and he wastes a lifetime.
    1. Re:Budget/Most Expensive Myth/Explosions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Love the show - it's spawned some serious fights with my wife over control of the TV at 9PM on Wednesdays (stupid "Lost" ending up in the same slot!).

      Why don't you just TiVo the replay a few hours later, and watch it the next day? I'm a Lost and Mythbusters fan-- since Lost doesn't get rerun late at night, the decision of which to watch in real time was made for me.

  65. Scientist on staff? by caveat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've noticed you guys have a regard for the scientific method, and make quite an effort to try and keep things controlled with regards to how you run your experiments and derive your conclusions. Have you ever considered bringing a formally trained scientist onto the crew to make sure you're going "by the book", so to speak?

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    1. Re:Scientist on staff? by mattkime · · Score: 1

      >>Have you ever considered bringing a formally trained scientist onto the crew to make sure you're going "by the book", so to speak?

      But an expert would KNOW when they were about to blow themselves up - obviously this goes against the main premise of the show.

      BUT

      it might be okay if its a tall, thin redhead that enjoys being around nerds.

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    2. Re:Scientist on staff? by Kaptain+Kruton · · Score: 1
      "I've noticed you guys have a regard for the scientific method, and make quite an effort to try and keep things controlled with regards to how you run your experiments and derive your conclusions."

      My question deals with the opposite of this. While yes they try and keep things controlled (and in many of their things, this is very difficult, considering their topics), they don't always stick to the scientific method when drawing conclusions. I have noticed on many occasions they test something and assume that because it didn't work in a few cases, it will never work in any case. This is part of the reason why certain myths were reversed in a show in which they reviewed myths because the number of fan-mail arguing against their previous results. I know it would be difficult given the time allotted to the show (and keeping thing interesting), but have you ever considered using a method closer to the scientific method? Or as the post above me says, have you considered getting a formally trained scientist (off camera) to help review your methods? (keep him off camera though....you guys are cool... don't ruin it by bring more characters into the show). Anyways, I love your show. Keep up the good work. -Kruton

    3. Re:Scientist on staff? by Skjellifetti · · Score: 1

      They often do consult experts. Go watch the "A rolling stone gathers no moss." episode where the staff ignored the biologist's recommendation on how to prepare the moss. The staff had to repeat the experiment. IIRC, this was also the longest (and not likely to have been the most thrilling) experiment they had run.

    4. Re:Scientist on staff? by blancolioni · · Score: 1

      it might be okay if its a tall, thin redhead that enjoys being around nerds.

      Here you go!

  66. Who comes up with the Myths? by PlainBlack · · Score: 1

    I've never heard of about half of the myths you do on the show. Who comes up with all the myths you try to bust and will they ever run out of myths to bust?

  67. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  68. By the way... by zanderredux · · Score: 1

    If you could get the phone number and favorite restaurant for Scottie as well, I'd appreciate. Thanks!

  69. Groupies? by Frankie70 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you have any groupies following the MythBusters show?

    1. Re:Groupies? by conJunk · · Score: 1

      i think the response hear pretty much answers that question, eh?

  70. Different types of myths? by loftwyr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Over the past few seasons, you've exploded a lot of myths (please exccuse the pun). However, there can't be that many myths that can be tested using your techniques. Are you looking into new ways of testing different types of myths or do you feel the show has a limited run, once you've finished the list of commonly held beliefs that can be tested through blowing up a crash test dummy or other physical tests?

    Would there be room on your show for phycological behviour myths through the use of a psychologist as example?

    1. Re:Different types of myths? by rotagivan · · Score: 0

      I recall one episode where they were trying to determine if a yawn was contagious or not. I would consider this a phycological experiment. But I really wasn't satisfied with their conclusions. I have already pondered about yawning before this episode. I concluded that yawns can be contagious depending on the circumstances. For instance, experiments using my dog show that when she is in a happy playful mood and I yawn then she will unlikely yawn too, but if its late in the evening and she's tired I can easily get her to yawn a couple of times but yawning in front of her. Science is so awesome!

  71. Money Issue by HappyCycling · · Score: 1

    What kind of budget does Discovery Channel provide you to work with and have any of your mythbusts gone over budget?

  72. M5 Industries by JBMcB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are you still doing special effects for commercials and/or movies, or is Mythbusters your full time job now? Have your mythbusting experiments helped out with your special effects work?

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    My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
    1. Re:M5 Industries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.m5industries.com/html/contact.htm

      "M5 is a separate business which is active even while I am working for MythBusters, and I am over occupied with trying to keep 2 full time jobs going at once - so I have trouble responding to questions and requests. So keep watching, I hope we keep you entertained, and 'Don't do anything I'd do!'" --Jamie Hyneman

    2. Re:M5 Industries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Adam Savage is keeping busy. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1144726/

  73. Question for mythbusters by snutte · · Score: 0

    The most important question of them all. Do any of u read /.? :)

  74. This happens all the time by neile · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In last week's episode Adam was specifically saying how the myth they were testing (tailgate up or down for better fuel economy) was one of the experiments where the result totally surprised them.

    The same episode also had them surprised that a finger in the barrel of a gun, even though it couldn't stop the bullet, would actually cause enough pressure buildup to deform the gun barrel at the tip.

    Neil

    1. Re:This happens all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the one about raiseing a sunken boat with ping pong balls has to be one of the most "Oh wow" moments.

    2. Re:This happens all the time by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well since you don't say what they concluded about the truck tailgate myth, I'll step in with what I've heard.

      My understanding is that when you keep the tailgate up it creates a high pressure bubble that forces the air over the bed of your truck. When the gate is down, the air swirls behind the cab and the resulting turbulence creates drag. The drag caused by the tailgate itself is less than the drag you'd have with no tailgate at all.

      Anywho, did they test the effects of having a hard/soft cover for the bed?
      Example picture with the tailgate up.

      In the end, this is mostly mental a mental exercise for the /. crowd. I doubt even 1% of us drive a truck, much less anything with more than 500lbs towing capacity.

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    3. Re:This happens all the time by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, that's exactly what they found.

      They also set up water tunnel with a model to try to visualize what was going on. Pretty interesting, and not what I would have expected.

      With the tailgate up, the flowing air (or oatmeal particles, in this case) forms a pressure bubble in the bed that causes the airflow to pass over the end of the truck, reducing drag. With the gate down, it wasn't so much that the air swirls and creates drag, but they saw that the airflow came over the cab and slammed down directly on the tailgage, causing the increased drag.

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    4. Re:This happens all the time by NaCh0 · · Score: 0
      The same episode also had them surprised that a finger in the barrel of a gun, even though it couldn't stop the bullet, would actually cause enough pressure buildup to deform the gun barrel at the tip.

      That episode had a terrible spin on it. For those who didn't see it, they were trying to peel the barrel of a gun like a banana and blow up on the shooter, as you see in cartoons. The jammed all kinds of shit in the barrel, fake wax fingers, several inches of compacted dirt, and even welded a metal spike in the barrel!! In none of the cases was the shooter ever harmed. They concluded that guns aren't fun. WTF?!??! These guys are fucking idiots. The real story is how safe gun manufacturers build their product.

    5. Re:This happens all the time by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. I seem to remember that their calculations before hand gave them every reason to expect that it would indeed work. All questions they had had to do with the practicality of such an endeavor.

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    6. Re:This happens all the time by dasunt · · Score: 1
      In the end, this is mostly mental a mental exercise for the /. crowd. I doubt even 1% of us drive a truck, much less anything with more than 500lbs towing capacity.

      How many trucks have a towing capacity of less then 500lbs?

      I haven't looked it up, but I'd suspect that towing capacities would be around two or more tons for most trucks with a typical bumper hitch.

      I've hauled cars around with a car dolly and a V6 truck. Hilly areas weren't fun, but it was a very controllable rig.

    7. Re:This happens all the time by bgarcia · · Score: 1
      Anywho, did they test the effects of having a hard/soft cover for the bed?
      I remember reading about a team that was trying to set the land speed record for a truck (not exactly sure what the class was). They were racing it on the salt flats. Anyhow, I remember that they ended up putting a tonneau cover over only the back half of the bed, because they found that it resulted in less drag than a full tonneau.
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    8. Re:This happens all the time by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      Bumper hitches are usually rated to tow a 500lb gross trailer weight. To tow more you get a proper hitch reciever that can allow you to tow up to a 15,000-16,000lb trailer but thats usually for 350 pickups and heavier trucks.

    9. Re:This happens all the time by UnixRevolution · · Score: 1

      500 pounds? I have a V-6 Mustang with a stick that's rated to tow 1000. Says so in the owners manual and on the "rated weights and capacities" sticker. I dunno what would be rated to tow 500...like a Focus?

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    10. Re:This happens all the time by tchuladdiass · · Score: 1

      I can also confirm this, as there's been times when a plastic bag has blown in the back of my F150 and it will swirl up in the air by the cab, and back down into the bed again toward the tailgate, them back repeat the cycle. The only way it gets blown out is if a cross-wind catches it.

    11. Re:This happens all the time by Blkdeath · · Score: 1
      How many trucks have a towing capacity of less then 500lbs?

      An F-75? :)

      I haven't looked it up, but I'd suspect that towing capacities would be around two or more tons for most trucks with a typical bumper hitch.

      A 'typical bumper hitch' would be a ball-on-bumper configuration, and presuming it's a steel bumper you're looking at Class I capacity which is 2000lb gross trailer weight with 200lb tongue weight. A minimal hitch receiver configuration would carry Class II-III (3500/350 - 5000/500) while a heavier duty hitch as found on a typical F-150 pickup is a Class IV which is rated for 10,000lbs with a 1000lb tongue weight.

      If you look at a Heavy/Super duty truck, esp with a diesel engine you'd be looking at weight distributing Class V which rates out at greater than 10,000lbs.

      Even a wee Ranger pickup with an inline-4 can tow Class II without breaking a sweat.

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    12. Re:This happens all the time by Beardydog · · Score: 1

      Heck, with a strength of just 17 (+3) I can Push or Drag 1,300 pounds, and I'm only fourth level. On the other hand, I'm sure I can't reach freeway speeds once I'm Encumbered.

    13. Re:This happens all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two friends
      One swears up and down that it makes no difference if the gate is up or down. He has owned 1 truck. I belive him.

      Other friend says 'it depends'. He has owned 5 trucks, and driven many from work. He said all sorts of factors can make a difference. Such as a lift kit, light bar, crap in the back, length of bed, etc. He said on some trucks it works, others nothing, on others it helps a bit.

      Now in that show they were doing almost exclusivly highway driving. That could also make a difference on the results. For example my first friend does almost all street driving. My second friend does a combination.

      What was the leason here? Try it and see if it helps or not. It might, it might not... In theory it should be usually better with the gate up though. Why? Just as they showed on the show. The air bubble made for less drag.

      But the best way to save gas? Buy a smaller lighter car that gets good gas mileage.

    14. Re:This happens all the time by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Now in that show they were doing almost exclusivly highway driving. That could also make a difference on the results.

      Drag isn't a factor in MPG below 50MPH, therefore there's no point in testing anything other than highway driving. That's why the national speed limit was set to 55. Fuel economy is best at the fastest speed you can go before drag starts diminishing your returns.

    15. Re:This happens all the time by Politas · · Score: 1

      Bugger trucks, how many cars have a towing capacity less than 500lbs? My 1.3 litre Suzuki can tow around 500 kg, and that's about the smallest towing capacity I've ever seen.

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    16. Re:This happens all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generally, "tail-gaiting" will increase fuel efficiency - you just have to be close enough. There is a reason why cyclists are in groups and not alone. A convoy of cars will have MUCH better fuel efficiency than individual cars.

      Of course, you need cars that are NOT aerodynamic to maximize the effect. Also, two cars doesn't make too much of a difference, but 20 cars does make a HUGE difference.

      This is not a myth. It is fluid mechanics.

    17. Re:This happens all the time by surprise_audit · · Score: 1
      I've seen the exact same effect with dry leaves in the back of my truck. They get picked up by the rotating bubble and just swirl around. One will occasionally get enough lift to hit the main airflow and be dragged out, but most of them just follow me around.

      I would like to have seen what happened with the tailgate completely removed, too. It looked like the drag was partly due to the extra length of the horizontal gate. I also wonder what difference one of those "air gate" nets would make?

    18. Re:This happens all the time by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Drag always diminshes your returns. It's incorrect to say it isn't a factor at low speeds. It does go up more sharply at higher speeds, and I do agree it's less of a factor at lower speeds.

      As for your final statement, I'd say it would depend on a lot of things, like the transmission, the shifting profile, the amount of speed variance tolerated on hills, etc.

      If you have an automatic with cruise control set at 60mph and you hit a hill, your automatic will downshift out of overdrive, and possibly even downshift again before cresting the hill, all to maintain 60mph +-5mph. That's going to use a lot of gas.

      In a 5 speed manual, if you keep it in 5th (that usually is 1:1 ratio like overdrive) all the way up the hill, you might drop down to 50mph but the engine will never have to spool up from downshifting.

      So fuel economy isn't always best at the "air drag sweet spot", there's way too many factors involved to make a statement like that.

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    19. Re:This happens all the time by nolife · · Score: 1

      My old Bronco II bumper hitch was stamped with "350 tounge weight, 3500 total capacity"
      It also had a regular frame mounted hitch installed that had the same exact capacity rating. With the exception of some commercial box trucks, I've never actually seen anyone using a bumper hitch.

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    20. Re:This happens all the time by Cally · · Score: 1

      What's a tailgate?

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    21. Re:This happens all the time by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I doubt even 1% of us drive a truck, much less anything with more than 500lbs towing capacity.

      Real hackers have trucks. You can't carry the big pieces of material you need to build stuff without a truck.

      Real Hackers hack everything. Computer Weenies may have the talent but they need to branch out if they want to be a Real Hacker.

      And the best programmers I know all have woodshops.

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    22. Re:This happens all the time by uberdave · · Score: 1

      Seems like it would be pretty easy for you to test. Throw a bushel of leaves in the bed, remove the tailgate, and drive.

    23. Re:This happens all the time by uberdave · · Score: 1

      With the tailgate down, the express toll route cameras can't read the licence plate, thus reducing the cost of the trip. Granted it's not fuel economy, but the ten cents per kilometre saved would probably far outweigh the cost of the fuel saved by having the tailgate up for the trip.

    24. Re:This happens all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I doubt even 1% of us drive a truck, much less anything with more than 500lbs towing capacity.
      I'm a "one-percenter"! I have more cargo/towing capacity than 99% of you.
    25. Re:This happens all the time by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      Oh sure, I could do that, but I think the Mythbusters would have more fun, though. They'd probably dynamite the tailgate hinges while driving down an old airstrip, to test the effect of sudden tailgate loss...

    26. Re:This happens all the time by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      If you double the speed you square the drag. This is a simplified version but close enough.
      If it takes 5 HP for your car to cruse at 25 mph it will take 25 hp for your car to cruise at 50 and a huge 650HP to cruse at 100 MPH. What is interesting is that most cars really only need around 10 to 20 HP to cruise at 50 mph on flat ground. All that extra horse power is used for acceleration and going up hills.
      Yes this is a very simple version of drag. There is form drag, boundary layer drag, and induced drag to deal with but for slashdot I thought I would keep it simple.

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    27. Re:This happens all the time by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Right, but for all practical considerations, air drag in typical 0-35mph city driving is insignificant, especially when weighed against driving habits or even pavement smoothness. Maintaining near constant velocity at highway speed is the logical method to test the tailgate theory. That was my only point.

  75. Myth I'd like to see busted... by PenguinBoyDave · · Score: 1

    "Windows is more secure than Linux..."

    This one is compliments of Martin Taylor and Steve Ballmer.

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  76. Physics Consultant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you guys ever thought of hiring a physics consultant? This would have helped in the frozen vs thawed chicken, would have led you to the correct conclusion in the man throwing himself against the glass (which you guys still have not addressed), and probably even in the third rail myth. In the first case its impulse-momentum, a frozen turkey will not deform as much and have a lower contact time, creating a higher impulse, doing more damage. In the second case there is a property of glass that every time something hits it, it gets weaker. This is the reason chem labs replace their glassware often. Otherwise that test tube containing some nasty solvent could break when set down, even gently, into the test tube holder. Apply that to a glass window, and think of the stresses it is already under. Add a man continually throwing himself against it, and it becomes clear, that he could in fact, one day go flying straight through the glass. In the third rail demo anyone can tell you there are muscles that operate a bladder, not just simple elasticity.

    I'm not saying everything done is wrong, in fact, I loved watching many of the shows. However, often enough I found myself wishing I could call in to point out oversights, and I'm not an expert by any means. It ended up causing me to lose interest since usually my friends would be discussing what was on, and I was the odd man out saying no, the frozen chicken would do more damage and here's why, and they'd end up saying it was on mythbusters, we saw the experiment...I'd end up getting just as frustrated with them as others who honestly believed the Rammstein Song Du Hast was saying you hate me...just because it was on TV, people believed it, same happens with your show, so now I just avoid those conversations by not watching the show.

    So have you ever considered getting yourselves a full time consultant? Someone who can analyze the experiments, and look for these pitfalls? I would probably start watching again if you did.

  77. How about by tomee · · Score: 1

    Why is there anything else on TV?

  78. Love the Mythbusters by Exp315 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Best show on television. You guys have my dream job. I disagree with the guy that said the Mythbusters' results aren't meaningful because you aren't thorough enough - it looks like you are as thorough as it's possible to be under the circumstances, and you aren't afraid to revisit a myth if you find out more. I also agree with the guy that said you should do a show on computer-related myths (this is Slashdot, after all). But here's my personal question: How much help do you really get from assistants behind the scenes that we don't get to see on camera? It looks like you give plenty of credit to your on-camera team, but do you have other guys that routinely help you build stuff, or on-staff scientific/engineering advisors etc?

  79. Who would you rather have on your team by AngryMuppet · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Who would you rather have on your team by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Related to the McGyver, several "magic" things from Bond movies were disspelled, what about McGyver show ones? I think i remember one about soldering with a coin and a battery (not have clear memory on that), but could be more dramatic examples.

    2. Re:Who would you rather have on your team by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      Soldering with a coin and a battery to repair a pump to fill a trench to divert, army ants?

      Don't ask me what corner of my brain that factiod was lying around in. Haven't watched that show in years.

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    3. Re:Who would you rather have on your team by damsa · · Score: 1

      I think they did the egg in the radiator one. One reason they don't do a McGyver show is because the folks that own McGyver show, either did not give permission to use their footage.

  80. Your memory is faulty by hummassa · · Score: 2, Informative

    This show aired (rerun) yesterday here. Jamie wasn't capable of breaking the glass even with the amplifier, but Adam did it. The guy (a pro singer) broke it easily with an amplifier, and also broke it w/o using the amplifier.

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    1. Re:Your memory is faulty by Andrewkov · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yep, here's the website of the guy that can break a crystal glass with his voice (without an amp). http://www.thevoiceconnection.com/ There's lessons and stuff there in case you're interested in singing.

    2. Re:Your memory is faulty by stevey · · Score: 1

      Cool, thanks for correcting me.

      Using no amplifier makes it much more impressive, I guess that is why I (half) remembered it in the first place!

    3. Re:Your memory is faulty by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Actually, I wasn't aware of that (honest). I just remembered the link from reading about it on a singing forum.

    4. Re:Your memory is faulty by Fallen_Knight · · Score: 1

      Didn't they have to drill a hole in the glass and he tried many diffrent glasses?

      that kinda leads me to belive that it IS impossible to shatter a regular wineglass by voice, amped or not. To me that kinda ruins it because its no longer just a glass, its a speical glass, like if you made special weak wine glasses for this.

  81. Scientific Credability by Ghostx13 · · Score: 1

    What do you say to your detracters who say none of your experiments hold water because you don't hold to rigorous scientific practices such as having strict control and experimental groups?

    I know many people in my circle of geek friends don't watch your show because they say it's nothing but junk science.

  82. Bust this myth by webhat · · Score: 1

    Faster than light speed isn't possible.

    I know, I'm a bastard.

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    1. Re:Bust this myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes

      Thanks,

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  83. Blows Me Away by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you ever been completely blown away by what you've found

    Well, there was that one show where they had they FBI hook them up with several TONS of high powered explosives.

    Then they used it to make a cement mixer truck dissappear.
    Here's the video (CoralCDN to the rescue)

    That pretty much blew me away.

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    1. Re:Blows Me Away by dimator · · Score: 1

      One of my favorite episodes. The sound it makes is so unlike an explosion.

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    2. Re:Blows Me Away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was 850 lbs not tons.

    3. Re:Blows Me Away by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I have to wonder why the FBI would have tons of high powered explosives..

    4. Re:Blows Me Away by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      The retired FBI agent guy probably just has the proper ATF licenses to handle and transport high explosives. They aren't that hard to get, it's mostly a lot of recordkeeping.

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    5. Re:Blows Me Away by Sathias · · Score: 1

      The best part of that segment was when Adam picks up a piece of smoking scrap metal and says "Well, theres your problem right there"

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  84. Re:When... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    When? It's already been done in the film Capricorn 7 (or something like that). The one where they proved that the space mission to the moon was faked. NASA built a real rocket and sent it up into space and then built a set to make it look like they landed on the moon. The moon never existed and was concocted by Thomas Edison as a cover for his light bulb development just before he invented the motion picture. You know his rendition of "The First Men in the Moon"? Well the prop that was used as the moon is what's been hanging in a (Low Earth Orbit) LEO until the 1968 moon launch. It wasn't suitable for landing though, so the Apollo had to carry enough supplies on it to build a landing surface in space behind the Edison prop. Glad I could share the truth with folks. I live for this stuff!

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  85. Kari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, can you get her to take her top off in one of the upcoming shows?

    1. Re:Kari by RembrandtX · · Score: 1

      i'm sure they are laughing all the way to the bank.

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  86. We're all thinking it: by The+Bubble · · Score: 1

    The big one:

    Is Windows better than Linux?

  87. Fixation on Canadians? by the_lp · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Just a quick question... In the slingshot episode, why would Canadians try to fly over a fence when there is no fence on much of the border? (if there is any) That couldn't have been the myth In the pilot with the hair cream... well that might have been the myth... And Yes we have stronger beer :)

    1. Re:Fixation on Canadians? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The show's narrator, Robert Lee, is Canadian-born; the insertion of Canada into some episodes is a sly tribute to him. There are also occasional quips about Canada inserted into the narration even when they don't pertain to the episode.

      Odd bit of trivia: Robert Lee currently lives in Australia, but the Australian airings of MythBusters have a different narrator.

  88. Engineer or physicist advisor by holla2040 · · Score: 1

    Does the show employ an engineer or physicist as a technical advisor?

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  89. Guests on the show by LMac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you ever considered having "Guest Busters"? For example if a viewer suggests a good myth to bust and it makes the cut, they get to come on the show and help you guys out.

    1. Re:Guests on the show by JonMartin · · Score: 1
      You just want to meet Kari.

      I like your plan.

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    2. Re:Guests on the show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This idea bothers me, Trading Spaces is annoying enough...

  90. Acidents by DrVeriEevil · · Score: 1

    On Myth Busters you do a lot of things were people can get hurt. Adam does not seem to mind having to feel little pain from time to time for sake of science. What kind of accidents in which people have got hurt (non-intentionally)? One thing that I remember well is the clip in which a fire alarm is screaming on the back and Adam is asking the cameraman if he still has his other eye brow.

    1. Re:Acidents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To make the question more preciese:
      What kind of accidents have you had in which people have got hurt (non-intentionally) that have not made it to the show?

    2. Re:Acidents by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I think that beeping was their flammable environment alarm they were using for the experiment. They had a gas meter that would start beeping at the lower explosive limits in air.

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  91. I have a question for the Mythbusters. by sgant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it true that Athena really came out of Zeus' head? I find that really hard to believe because we all...oh, what's that? Not that type of myth?

    Never mind then...oh, and great show!

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    1. Re:I have a question for the Mythbusters. by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Is it true that Athena really came out of Zeus' head?

      No, that was Zeus' thigh.

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    2. Re:I have a question for the Mythbusters. by The_Rook · · Score: 1

      nope, it was zeus' head. that's why athena is the goddess of wisdom.

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    3. Re:I have a question for the Mythbusters. by brunson · · Score: 1

      I heard the hook was on his foot.

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    4. Re:I have a question for the Mythbusters. by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      it was zeus' head. that's why athena is the goddess of wisdom.

      Who came from the thigh then?

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    5. Re:I have a question for the Mythbusters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dionysus.

    6. Re:I have a question for the Mythbusters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dionusos (or Bacchos) came out of Zeus thigh but he was consived by a mortal woman and Zeus normally. Then Hera practicing her favourite sport of getting rid of all the lovers of her husband managed to pursuade that woman (whose name I've forgotten) to ask Zeus to appear to her in his true form.
      When he did so (having first sworn so that he could not deny her the favour) she died cause no mortal can see a god in his true form. Zeus took the unborn child from her and placed it in his thigh until it had grown enough to be born.

      There you go!

  92. Whos Idea? by veddermatic · · Score: 1

    Who's idea was it to add other full-time persons (more specifically Kari Byron) to the show, you guys or the producers? Either way, could you describe how they got to be on the show, and your thoughts on the effects on the quality of the show, if any.

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  93. What was the easiest Myth to bust? by mustafap · · Score: 1


    Subject has it all I guess.

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  94. Re:corporate question by yakumo.unr · · Score: 1

    Never having actually seen the show I'm sorry I didn't realise the true nature of it.

    It's a genuine corporate myth spread by DRM pushers I'd like to see busted open publicly, hence the post.
    I guess this isn't the type of program that would attempt to deal with this, but it would amuse me to see a light hearted atempt at it, rather than a sterile techno-geek raw 'state the facts' investigation.

    either way, spot the smiley people, at worst I thoguht it was a bad attempt at a humour, not offtopic.

  95. Shown vs. Not Shown by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hi Guys,

    Has there ever been a segment that you wish had been shown, but didn't make the cut? Conversely, was there a segment that did make the final show that you wish had not been shown?

    1. Re:Shown vs. Not Shown by doormat · · Score: 1

      In the wish-it-wasn't-shown category, I bet Adam would include the "Am I missing an eyebrow?" event.

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    2. Re:Shown vs. Not Shown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who actually decides what "makes the cut"? Your attorneys? The Authorities? Your sponsors? The editor? Does Adam savage freak out and go on a tantrum fit if his favorite myth never makes the show? Who is his health insurance broker? I bet he's tearing his air out of his head... :-)

    3. Re:Shown vs. Not Shown by Omnieiunium · · Score: 1

      Actually, I do believe they have a special episode dedicated to clips that made it and those that did not. They have a bunch of clips that you didn't see that included some great bits that they said they wanted to include in the show.

  96. Electric ark by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

    Did that guy who shocked you with the electric ark get his ass kicked off camera? Come on now, what's a little electrocution between friends?

  97. Ruby on Rails by GnuVince · · Score: 1

    Ruby on Rails makes programmers 10 times more productive than the alternative web development frameworks in Java: myth or reality?

  98. Controversial topics by DavidHumus · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Have the Mythbusters considered taking on more controversial topics?

    While issues like global warming or fake debates like ID versus evolution are too complex or philosophical to be simply tested on TV, how about something on the efficacy of various alternative medical therapies?

    On completely unrelated topics, how about the myth that a penny dropped from the top of the Empire State Building would pierce someone's skull or the one that rice causes pigeons to explode?

    1. Re:Controversial topics by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      how about something on the efficacy of various alternative medical therapies?

      They did just do an episode about motion sickness treatments, even including a placebo run. Ginger pills came out on top, better than OTC pharmeceuticals.

      Of course, with a sample size of two people, this is not exactly publication-quality research. But a nice "scale model" of how a good study might be run.

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    2. Re:Controversial topics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did the "penny drop" way back in season 1. I doubt they would do the "exploding pigeons" thing, first for not wanting to actually kill an animal, but secondly Jamie wouldn't care for the mess...

    3. Re:Controversial topics by gblues · · Score: 1

      Actually, there was an episode last week that tested the efficacy of non-pharmeceutical seasickness remedies; and the "killer penny" has been covered too (answer: no, because terminal velocity for a penny isn't enough to break the skin--although it would hurt).

      Dunno about the exploding pigeon, although the SPCA would probably complain about that experiment. ;)

      Nathan

    4. Re:Controversial topics by FirstTimeCaller · · Score: 1

      Just to add to this... They did do a show about pyramid power and Adam requested no more woo-hoo stuff. But why not use your show as a forum to educate viewers about some of the bad science out there? I'm specifically thinking about things like dowsing, magnet theropy, homeopathy and extra sensory perception.

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  99. I think you misunderstand the concern by MarkusQ · · Score: 1

    They aren't worried that RF noise will set off the explosives; they are worried that RF noise will interfere with the equipment they use to set off the explosives. They don't use a long roll of wire and a plunger style generator anymore--they set 'em off by radio. And they'd rather you didn't set them off by radio before they were ready.

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    1. Re:I think you misunderstand the concern by afidel · · Score: 1

      It's VERY easy to overcome this, I did it for my model rockets, and I'd be suprised if the pros didn't have the proper equipment. All I did is require a different patterns (sine, square, sawtooth) on three different frequencies. If all three signals weren't recieved within the polling period of my device then the starter didn't fire. Very simple and very failsafe.

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    2. Re:I think you misunderstand the concern by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      You are wrong generally. The usual concern is direct RF induced detonation from the blasting wires acting as antennas.

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    3. Re:I think you misunderstand the concern by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      They're also worried about interference with the person-to-person communications. Let's say someone gives the all-clear, and then another person on a two-way attempts to alert the team about a little old lady that's just wandered into the area? If their comms can't be trusted, it erodes the overall safety of the site. The detonation stuff, these days, is all digitally coded so that even a signal on the same frequeny shouldn't be able to set off charges any more than it can guess the MAC address on a WiFi. Of course, even very long odds are something to think about when you're working with high explosives.

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  100. Jamie's mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the show we always get to see Adam doing dumb things (we don't blame him its the only way he'll learn) I'm wondering what do you Jamie think the dumbest thing you've ever done on the job is?

    I don't mean on the show I mean something back when you were working in the special effects industry, I think it would comfort all(especially Adam) of us to know that even you once did dumb things :)

    Thank you for making a great and always entertaining show.

  101. Fan email.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know you get a lot of fan email declaring "you guys didn't really test it right! This myth is TRUE! You are teh sux0rs!" - I know that more often than not, these come from the SAME tinfoil-hat wearing people over and over. Often these folks have "unusual personality quirks"... so - what's the weirdest fan email you guys have gotten, or the most vehement protest email you've gotten?

  102. The Meta-myth by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

    What about supposed myths regarding mythbusters itself, or is that just a myth?

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  103. 1. How do you feel about people who take the show too seriously, and rant on endlessly in various online locales about proper scientific method?

    2. Do you feel sorry for all the ones who asked about Kari?

    3. Have you ever considered politically charged mythbusting, like cell phones or power lines causing cancer (just to toss out a couple probably impractical examples)?

    4. Do you have any relationship with snopes.com?

  104. Do you ever by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

    Go back through the warehouse and pull out old mythbusting gear for fun?

    I'm thinking of the surfboard hover thingies... or maybe the fan of death...

    Do Fridays ever turn into some bizarre twisted version of MythBusters where Jamie and Adam battle to the death (or the first one to cry) using only materials used to debunk myths?

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    1. Re:Do you ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the hovercraft they created was seen in the recent episode where they tried to replicate a mythical Civil War-era rocket. When they did a burn test of the rocket engine inside a shipping container in the shop, it created enough heat to partially melt the hovercraft which was hanging from the rafters above.

  105. Not Busted Properly by Mesamedasu · · Score: 1

    Are there any myths that you thought you had busted only to find out that it really hadn't been? You did once try to bust the myth that the wash from an aircraft's jet engine could blow a car over. Admittedly, you only used teeny tiny jets that just singed the car. Top Gear (UK TV car program) did it properly and arranged for a series of cars to drive behind a nice big 747 at full throttle. Needless to say, all the cars where blown clean off the road...

  106. What Happened to Scottie Chapman? by Captain+Chad · · Score: 1

    I'd really like to know.

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  107. Whoa, drooling fanboys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She already has a significant other who she loves very much, and Scottie doesn't want anything to do with the show anymore. So you can put those drooling tongues back in your mouths now.

    1. Re:Whoa, drooling fanboys by mandreko · · Score: 1

      I was wondering where Scotty went. What happened?

    2. Re:Whoa, drooling fanboys by s0rk · · Score: 1

      He went to the same place as John Katz and that lost sock from the dryer.

    3. Re:Whoa, drooling fanboys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I was wondering where Scotty went

      I wish I beamed her up... And then we could friction weld... She's quite busted!

  108. Who is the "Alpha"-Buster? by billdar · · Score: 1
    After watching the show for a while now, it is obvious that each of you have, umm, a strong personality and often have differing (but technically valid) approaches to setting up a test.

    Who's ideas tend to win out, or is it staged to add a flare of drama?

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    1. Re:Who is the "Alpha"-Buster? by Blapto · · Score: 1

      They did do an alphabuster test actually for one episode... The categories were as I recall: Pain threshold Memory of past episodes Ingenuity. Estimating weight of various objects And one other... Jamie won them all but the weight one.

  109. Fans requesting revisits by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

    It seems on the show that you guys are annoyed by fans requesting revisits. I know thats probably just acting, and if you really WERE annoyed you wouldn't actually DO the revisits. Anyway, my question is: who decides whether or not to revisit a myth? Is it you guys, the producers, or both? Has there ever been a myth you would have liked to revisit that never got any notice from the fans?

    1. Re:Fans requesting revisits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe you busted the jet pack!! Your attempts were lame--clearly you guys were working on your real job and just left this episode to your crew.

      First, you didn't show the original video or even tell viewers how to find it:

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6943201001 782160188&q=jet+pack

      The bottles they used seemed larger than 2 liter. It also appears that they used nozzles like drinking water bottles. If you're going to bust a myth, you should at least say why their video was fake... uh boy... Time for a revisit.

      By the way, great show.. and I live on Potrero Hill so its fun to see you guys around..

  110. Forget Mythbusters... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What everyone REALLY wants to know is (several questions, but one answer can nail them all):

    - Would you choose to be a Super Hero duo, or a pair of villains, which would you be?
    - Would they be original characters, or someone/something that already exists?
    - Would you wear tights?
    - WHY?

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    1. Re:Forget Mythbusters... by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

      >- Would you wear tights?

      You didn't see the "Running vs. Walking in the Rain" show.
      >

  111. Take it another step up by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1

    You guys are good at running experiments that are spectacularly entertaining. Have you ever considered running an experiment that's both spectacularly entertaining and publishable in a peer-reviewed journal (besides Irreproducible Results)?

  112. Socrates Death Ray by scronline · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First off to the poster, it's not a "cable" channel :)

    But my question is this....

    No offense, but you guys don't have PhDs or anything like that. Doesn't it stand to reason that documented proof that students from MIT that could prove that the Death Ray could be reproduced show that it could be done?

    Taking into consideration that atmospheric temperature will affect the amount of heat needed to cause combustion and the fact that the bay area CA is a constantly windy location with cool air constantly coming off the water which will also cool "the target". "The Med" being much warmer as well as closer to the equator (and thus more direct sunlight). Wouldn't those conditions be much easier to cause combustion? As a former welder, I know that during the winter for me to make the same welding runs (I worked out doors) in 5 degree weather vs. 80 degree weather I would have to turn the heat up a bit with the first stick so the metal could warm to a sufficent level. I could then turn the amps back down and follow my heat trail.

    1. Re:Socrates Death Ray by iotashan · · Score: 1

      Uh... from what I heard the MIT team was invited out to 'Frisco by the Mythbusters to try it on a real boat... and couldn't do it.

    2. Re:Socrates Death Ray by alva_edison · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, the poster was referring to the fact that it is not (to the best of my knowledge) a broadcast channel. Most channels that are not broadcast are referred to as "cable".

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    3. Re:Socrates Death Ray by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      You're conflating your myths. I think you mean Archimedes death ray. Or maybe Cassanova Frankenstien.


      Or maybe Archimedes Plutonium.

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    4. Re:Socrates Death Ray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Greece is probably a little warmer than San Francisco on average, but it is not closer to the equator. Athens and SF are practically on the same latitude. (37 degrees, 47 minutes for Athens and 37 degrees, 58 minutes for San Francisco.) They ought to get just about the same amount of direct sunlight.

    5. Re:Socrates Death Ray by Hast · · Score: 1

      I posted a link above about this. Apparently the experiment has been reproduced, on site, using several hundred people and polished shields. This was done on the BBC show "What the ancients did for us".

      In previous Slashdot articles there has been a lot of comments about weather/temperature differences. Typically it goes something like first someone points out that SF weather may not be a good test. After this, typically a person from SF or at least California state that it representative since it's approx on the same parallell. Finally every now and then you get someone who has actually been to both SF and Greece who say that the weather isn't really similar and that the test isn't valid. (For the record I've never been to neither SF or Greece, though I've been in southern Europe a lot during the summers.)

      However, I think that what I find that they fail at is to even recognise these errors. (Sure they have "rematches" but they seem to fail to adress the errors there too.)

  113. I'll second this! by raygundan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love the show, and maybe this would ruin the show's mainstream appeal, but I'd LOVE to have a couple of resident Physicists and Engineers advising them to get more rigorous results. Things get waaaaay too oversimplified.

    To add to your jet engine example, my biggest gripe was always their "windows down vs. AC" gas-mileage test. All their test could possibly show was that at the one tested speed in the one tested vehicle, that's what happened. Even their retraction and correction later was oversimplified-- they explained that at some point, the speed of a vehicle becomes great enough that the AC wins over the windows-- but they acted like that number is the same for all cars regardless of all the other variables. (engine size, AC design, window size and position, and overall aerodynamic shape, to name a few)

    1. Re:I'll second this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have researchers, safety guys, producers, and probably a few dozen other guys you never see on the show. The Asian kid has some neat qualifications that I forgot. How do you know they don't have physicists and engineers that they just don't show because it would be boring? And it seems unlikely that the researchers don't at least make some calls to find out the appropriate methods, which then have to be pared down for time or cost or lack of boringness because, after all, it's a show about things blowing up.

    2. Re:I'll second this! by silencrasdf · · Score: 1

      I totally agree, I stopped watching after seeing the "windows down vs. AC" episode. It's fine if you're watching the show for entertainment, but I need something with a little more substance.

    3. Re:I'll second this! by raygundan · · Score: 1

      I think they probably do have some experts they don't show because it's boring. That's why my original comment said "and maybe this would ruin the show's mainstream appeal."

      I still think they could be more honest about what their test results show. I wouldn't change anything else-- it's fun to watch as it is. Replacing "therefore all cars get better economy at all speeds with the windows down" with "therefore this particular car gets better economy at 40mph with the windows down" doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me.

  114. Science vs. Special Effects by everphilski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a fan of the show - my wife and I catch it every week. However as a mechanical engineer there are a lot of times we are watching and realise that there are some basic scientific misteaks being made. For example the myth about the hair creme in the cockpit... the cockpit was pressurized at 5psi (i think, or some PSI) at altitude, **not** being pressurized at 5psi over ambient.

    I guess my question is I realise the two of you and your newer companions all have a long heritage in special effects, but not necessarily in hardcore engineering (thermodynamics / mechanics / etc.). Where is the line drawn between science and special effects? The consultants are fine, but have you ever considered hiring a staff engineer?

    -everphilski-

    1. Re:Science vs. Special Effects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IANAME, but isn't pressurizing a vessel at sea level to 5 PSI actually 5 PSI > ambient? Consider this, the pressure in the vessel is measured by a gage, who's reference is ambient, which IIRC is about 14.7 PSIA at sea level. So the pressure in the vessel would actually be 19.7 PSIA no? Same thing would apply at higher altitudes where the pressure is lower due to lack of atmosphere. Say atmospheric pressure is 12 PSIA at 10,000 feet (I've no idea if that's right, it's just for example) then if you pressurized a vessel at that altitude, using the same gauge as before, to 5 PSI, the actual pressure in the vessel would be 17 PSIA, right?

    2. Re:Science vs. Special Effects by everphilski · · Score: 1

      In a fighter aircraft, if you are just supplying oxygen, you are supplying it at 5psi, you aren't overpressuring by 5psi. IE, you'd think of it as sucking all of the atmosphere out, and then just putting in air at 5psi.

      -everphilski-

  115. Re:corporate question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    modded down by "The Man"?

  116. Pressure to always bust a myth? by l4m3z0r · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is there pressure to always bust(or bust as often as possible) a Myth? Many times I have watched your show and felt that you gave up too early or simply weren't trying hard enough, or I've come up with something that I'd like to try(are you guys hiring?).

    AN ASIDE: I've wanted to make time to write ever since I saw your gun barrel peeling like a banana episode. First I'd like to point out my observation that the plug that you welded into the barrel would essentially garuntee that the gun wouldn't peel back in such a fashion, since you are forcibly holding the barrel shut so as to prevent any peeling it would be infinitely more likely that your weld would break(it did) or some imperfection halfway down the barrel would blow out the side.

    ANECDOTE: My uncles shotgun peeled back in the exact manner in which you were going for. He tripped while hunting in the woods and the barrel poked itself into some mud, unoticed by him he continued hunting until finally he took a shot at a pheasant. The gun barrel ripped apart a la elmer fudd, we all remarked on how it looked exactly like the cartoon. I imagine the fact that he was not injured at all was just his dumb luck.

    1. Re:Pressure to always bust a myth? by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Part of the story they missed is that modern shotgun barrels are a lot tougher than they used to be. The reason being that shot used to be made of lead. Well, spraying lead pellets into mashlands turned out to be not such a good idea so hunters were required to use steel shot (or non-lead of some sort) when hunting waterfoul.

      So if they used an older "lead only" barrel, the mud plugged barrel probably would have let go in a banana peel fashion. When I took my "hunter safety" course ages and ages ago, we were shown slides of what happend to a plugged barrel, one of them was a banana peel and another was of a barrel that mushroomed out. It can (and has) happened.

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  117. Fans' science by SilentChris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How often do fans question your results? Have you had any diehard science/physics freaks tell you you're wrong? Have the "redone mythbustings" occured because of these?

    Great fan of the show, by the way. :) Keep up the good work.

    1. Re:Fans' science by EiZei · · Score: 1

      They have revisited several myths already, in fact I recall them having a whole episode in which they revisited bunch of their previous myths (ie. the infamous chicken cannon).

  118. Scottie and Christine by sweeze · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen Scottie or Christine on any recent episodes... have they left the show for good?

  119. Some myths, gotta be busted by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • The Romans didnt have the number zero.
    • If you let a bird loose in an airplane, the plane gets lighter.
    • Glass flows, albeit slowly.
    • Aluminum foil sould always be used shiny side out.
    • Car oil filters are critically important (in their filtration ability).
    • A car shock absorber absorbs the shocks.
    • Placing a car battery on a concrete floor drains it of energy.
    1. Re:Some myths, gotta be busted by Azi+Dahaka · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm about a week late, but (most?) ancient cultures did not have the *number* zero (they could say "I have no bananas, of course").

      If you mean the number zero as a mathematical concept or the numeral, it was pretty much unknown. But the Roman people still knew the idea of zero.

      Fairly fascinating how the ancient people dealt with it. Most ancient mathematics had a difficult time with zero and infinity (see Zeno's Paradox).

      I would whole-heartedly agree that the idea they had no concept of zero is preposterous.

      I think the MythBusters are more into the "blowing things up" category of myths, rather than ancient, historical myths, though.

  120. Exploding Pigeons by SloWave · · Score: 1

    How about checking out if pigeons really do explode after eating rice?

  121. Ok, here is a good one by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    If pete and repeat were sitting on a boat, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if Peter Piper picked a peck of seashells by the seashore?

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  122. MythBusters Question by DenDave · · Score: 1

    (slashdot-ish question)

    Would Mythbusters wanna try and bust the "myth" that Linux is "safer" than windows?

    Ideas:
    Set up "vanilla" boxes and leave them in the wild for a certain period of time and then check back and do forensics...

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    1. Re:MythBusters Question by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      what an exciting episode, can't wait to see that one

      idea :
      do it yourself

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    2. Re:MythBusters Question by blincoln · · Score: 1

      They should do a time-lapse video of it, and set it to Apotheosis' remix of Orff's "O Fortuna." That would be *sweet*.

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    3. Re:MythBusters Question by DenDave · · Score: 1

      LOL! I would but I don't have a windows box.. although I do have 98 as a virtual instance on my mac.... nah that wouldn't qualify..

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  123. Equally pessimistic/optimistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Generally, do you have different levels of "believing" a myth might be true, when you first hear about it, or are you both equally pessimistic/optimistic?

    Mike

  124. Skills needed by skrysakj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can you list the core skills you would recommend to someone if they wanted to
    be as adept as you at designing, crafting, and engineering things?
    (For example: knowledge of welding, some carpentry, basic chemical interactions and electrical engineering)

    1. Re:Skills needed by hammackj · · Score: 1

      Jesus was a mere carpenter, yet he could turn water into wine.

  125. Myth to Bust by gorehog · · Score: 1

    Can we get you guys to test the myth of the power of prayer?

    1. re: myth to bust by pimpius+the+impious · · Score: 0

      I think a good myth to bust would be the myth of /. not being able to reach 1200 comments in 6 hours...

  126. Surely I am not the only one wondering... by friarfan · · Score: 1

    I ask this because my wife really wants to know. Are you ,Jaimie and Adam, domestic partners? I maintain that you guys are both just geeks like me, but she is convinced that the way you guys bicker there has to be more than a mere friendship there -- not that there is anything wrong with that...

    1. Re:Surely I am not the only one wondering... by kimvette · · Score: 1

      I shouldn't be feeding a troll, but here goes:

      From IMDB on Jamie:

      Jamie is happily married, and has said that he is very proud of his wife!

      From IMDB on Adam:
      Spouse
              Julia (2003 - present) 2 children

      You could have gone to IMDB to check it out, gone to the Mythbusters' home page on Discovery's site and done some reading to get the exact same info -- or you could post flamebait on /. because it's oh-so-funny to post "OMG U R GAY LOLOLROFL!!!111!!!" rather than sticking to the issue at hand.

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    2. Re:Surely I am not the only one wondering... by friarfan · · Score: 1

      Yep, you are right. I should have thought of IMDB. Didn't make the connection because they aren't in a movie, as far as I know, even though I have looked up TV stuff there before. Well, I am glad I have an answer for my wife, now there is room for more interesting and/or funny questions for Jamie and Adam. Kimvette you are 100% right. If I had taken a moment to think, I would not have posted. But you have to admit they bicker like an old married couple, this is one of the more endearing parts of the show in my opinion. Sorry for the flammable post. No troll intended.

  127. Where's Scotty? by strredwolf · · Score: 1

    What happened to Scotty? We haven't seen her for some time, and she just came on Monster Garage?

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    1. Re:Where's Scotty? by I_Strahd · · Score: 0

      How in the fuck does this get modded up?

  128. Insurance issues by mattegger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Last year I heard an insurance underwriter speak about the challenges of covering reality TV. I don't want to lump your program in the same category of "reality" TV, but he did mention that there were shows or specific stunts that he was not able to cover. Have you ever been unable to debunk a myth because of liability/insurance reasons?

    1. Re:Insurance issues by Kickassthegreat · · Score: 1

      I have seen some episodes where they had to cut back/scale out some of the tests they wished to perform due to insurance concerns.

      I specifically recall that the attempt to flip a taxi was almost cancelled because they could not get an insurance underwritter until the last minute.

    2. Re:Insurance issues by texasandroid · · Score: 1

      In that one they originally wanted to try to flip the taxi with the backwash from a real jet airplane. The insurance company refused to insure the test because of concerns that the taxi might somehow flip back and damage the airplane. The taxi itself was junk, and was expected to be trashed. So the team went with plan B and hired a couple of huge truck-mounted jets.

  129. Technology, Mythbusters and the viewers. by byrskov · · Score: 1

    Seeing how you apparently get a lot of email about the subjects you tests, how has the viewers been able to influence the shows - and has it changed since you started the show?

  130. The dummy's name is Buster ... by hummassa · · Score: 2, Informative

    And usually, they go in person into the "dangerous" stuff, like quicksand, inside a bathtub when someone drops a turned-on toaster in it. And don't forget Adam lost an eyebrow once :-)

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  131. How about "Cuz 'experts' are frequently wrong"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    why not let a physics prof supervise some of your stunts?
    I refer you to the contemporaries of Copernicus, Einstein, and Hannibal
  132. Raw Meat? by Jaiden · · Score: 1

    What's in the box that says "Raw Meat?"

    Does the british show Brainiac's lack of real science annoy you as much as it does me? They seem like Mythbusters-lite

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  133. Brings to mind my question... by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given that you often refer to getting "lots of angry emails" based on the show, why would you agree to do an interview with one of the websites that's frequented by the type of people that generate most of that angry email? Are you hoping that they'll waste time posting comments and that you can let the moderators get rid of them as opposed to your staff?

    Oh, and can you get Discovery to show the show at some time other than 9:00PM EST on Wednesdays? I have a commitment then and always have to miss it. (Silly family.)

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    1. Re:Brings to mind my question... by plover · · Score: 1

      Just to stray on topic a bit, how about building a "Myth"TV box so you don't have to stay home on Wednesday nights?

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    2. Re:Brings to mind my question... by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      That involves effort and money.

      Well, actually, I already have a TV tuner card and it's hooked up, so it only involves effort, but the point still remains.

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    3. Re:Brings to mind my question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's see, have them move a major cable production to air at a later time to satisfy one single person? If only there were some sort of device that let you record the show and then play it back later. Man that would be useful. Maybe someday someone will invent something that can do that.

    4. Re:Brings to mind my question... by mrtivo · · Score: 1

      Or setup the VCR to record or buy a TiVo or find a new family. There are plenty of options that work.

    5. Re:Brings to mind my question... by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      I'd rather someone invent a "detect humor" device first, and mandate it's installation in anyone who fails a standardized humor test. Considering that now I've gotten two people to tell me to get a video recorder of some form, instead of realizing that I have no expectation of actually changing the air time, and was really just joking about how I haven't been able to catch the show for the past couple of months.

      The simple reality is that I don't care enough about TV to actually bother recording shows, even shows I like to catch when I'm around. Back when I was actually at home when Mythbusters was on, I was spending the time playing World of Warcraft, with the TV on. I learned something about keeping beer cold in Molten Core, and something about turning people into Living Bombs, but that was about it.

      So, no, I don't expect them to change the TV schedule over me. Especially because reruns of the show are on when I can actually watch them. Both questions are "a joke." Although I think it would be really funny if Slashdot actually asked them, both in a "why are you wasting their time with that?" sort of way, and a "I wonder if the editors got the joke?" sort of way.

      But, hey, I've already gotten a question asked in one Slashdot interview that I had no intention of actually asking the guy, since it was really directed at Slashdot itself, so you never know...

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    6. Re:Brings to mind my question... by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Bah! So you would selfishly inconvenience countless geeks who have no family (or other forms of human interaction) to distract them from the show at a time that appeals to their busy schedules...... just because...... you're, um, lazy..... Uhhhh.... Never mind. They all have DVR Recorders (for the redundancy factor) anyway.....

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    7. Re:Brings to mind my question... by hitmark · · Score: 1

      err, i watch them at 12:00pm ;)

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    8. Re:Brings to mind my question... by plover · · Score: 1
      No, no, it was "Myth"TV, as in Mythbusters. Get it? Get the joke? Huh? Get it?

      (I was originally going to recommend a ReplayTV as the solution, but couldn't pass up the obvious pun. Apparently it wasn't as obvious as I thought.)

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    9. Re:Brings to mind my question... by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      That's when all my favorite shows come on.....

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    10. Re:Brings to mind my question... by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. I'm still trying to decide if you are simply playing dumb for effect, or if you actually missed his continuation of your joke by suggesting that rather than get a MythTV, a valid option was for the OP was to "get a new family."

    11. Re:Brings to mind my question... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Oh, we all got it all right.

      It wasn't funny.

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    12. Re:Brings to mind my question... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Oh, and can you get Discovery to show the show at some time other than 9:00PM EST on Wednesdays? I have a commitment then and always have to miss it. (Silly family.)

      Dude, get a VCR.

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  134. What's the most subtle myth you've busted? by Rick+Genter · · Score: 1

    By subtle, I mean a myth that at first doesn't seem like it should be a myth.

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  135. Bloopers! by binaryDigit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You guys should easily have enough blooper material to fill a show by now, let's have it.

    So, barring, that, my question would be, what are your top 5 "oops" incidents that never made it on to the screen?

    1. Re:Bloopers! by DMC_DMC_DMC · · Score: 2, Informative

      See here for the bloopers: http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/vide ogalleries/videogalleries.html Besides, thats what makes the show great, is that they leave most of the bloopers in.

  136. Effect of your show on viewers by DMC_DMC_DMC · · Score: 1

    Does the fact that millions of viewers may follow your advice ever worry to you? On the flip side do you get a kick out of making science fun for kids?

  137. Bust this myth by DaFallus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it true that if I give $8000 and all my banking information to Sumbawi Katangi at First Nigerian Bank I will inherit Prince Muntu's $8 million fortune?

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  138. On the "jet vs. taxi" thing by zanderredux · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Since we're getting back to the "jet vs. taxi" thing, one thing they didn't reproduce was the circumstance of the, say, "taxi ejection".

    The taxi was crossing the runway at the point planes approach for landing. This might have been a key part left out since there is an enormous air pressure under the plane during landing, which, in turn, associates with the vortices created both by jet exhaust and wind passing through the wings.

    The myth is plausible, as they later admitted (evidence from TV footage, right?), but incredingbly if not impossibly hard to reproduce.

    Question: what they can do to improve mythbusting on these kinds of myths? Are there any methodologies in sight?

    1. Re:On the "jet vs. taxi" thing by MullerMn · · Score: 1

      Well, Top Gear did it.

      For reference, a mid sized saloon car got blown down the runway like a leaf, and a Citroen 2CV disintegrated.. was literally blown to pieces.

    2. Re:On the "jet vs. taxi" thing by raygundan · · Score: 1

      Expensive, or "difficult to get regulatory approval for," but not hard. They just needed a proper jet engine-- the British show Top Gear had no problem flipping a pair of cars multiple times with an actual 747.

    3. Re:On the "jet vs. taxi" thing by zanderredux · · Score: 1

      Gotta love the brits! No regulatory bullshit and a big corporation (Virgin) to back it up!

  139. How does it make you feel... by iotashan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How do you feel when you've finished exploring a myth in front of the cameras, knowing that your results are being closely scrutinized by geeks worldwide, and, in a lot of cases, by experts in their respective fields?

    1. Re:How does it make you feel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an Aussie I have watched a few of their shows on SBS, their on Monday 7:31:30PM till 8:28:30PM AEST for all you other Aussies, also some channel 7 shows such as "beyond tomorrow" AKA "why toyota is going to rock tomz, with 10min stolen out of myth busters" (I hate sponsored shows). I have noticed many times them being clearly clueless in subjects, and showing no signs that they have researched the subject, and saying a myth is busted with out seeing the reason why it failed was because of their mistakes, personally they lost all creditiblity in my eyes but its still fun watching the show, and I do so every now and then while eating dinner.

      So here is my suggestion at the end of the show offer a means of contacting you and explaining to you why your reasoning for a myth being busted is not true, and on the next epistode admit your mistakes... unless your just after the people that are clueless in the subject your trying to bust... which makes it the same as Microsoft's "Get the facts," no creditiblity for the knowledgeble, there are better reasons why not to use Linux but there are even betterer (yes I invented a word) reasons not to use Windows.

    2. Re:How does it make you feel... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine they feel like having a beer.

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  140. Torches by mcspoo · · Score: 1

    Here's a myth I'd like to see sorted out... In movies, the heroes always find torches in those forbidding caves in the middle of the planet. They always appear to light right away, and burn for the duration of their requirment. Convenient plot device, or reality? Also, a serious question: How exactly does one become a Mythbuster? From what we see on the shows, you guys have the greatest jobs in the world.

  141. Can you test this myth ? by yattaran · · Score: 1

    There's myth that Microsoft's so-called "operating system" Windows is secure. Can you test this myth over a long period by installing it on a computer, connecting it to the Internet and leave in on for some months and then check if it's been infected? Also try out all various editions of this operating system and see how secure it actually is, like Win3.11, Win95, Win98, Win98SE, WinME, Win2k, NT and WinXP.

    Then of course a comparision to other operating sytems would be cool like FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux distros like ArchLinux, Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora, Gentoo.. . You could also try Apple's various systems, although if I'm not mistaken are based on FreeBSD. And if you're capable of testing GNU/Hurd that would be cool too.

    Thanks for an excellent show! I watch it twice a day, episode + rerun of that episode at night and every new episode on Sunday. I sincerely hope it continues far in to the next century! :-)

  142. External Influences by Daxster · · Score: 1

    Have you ever been pressured by [military, government, ...] external companies to prove a myth a certain way? Things like weaponry or easy aids to crime, which is always proved to be impossible.

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  143. Try this one by MrNougat · · Score: 0

    I've heard that if you pee on your feet in the shower, you won't get athlete's foot. I know you're always looking for a new way to experiment with pee, so have at it.

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  144. Never Mentioned by onebyside · · Score: 1

    is there any truth to the rarely seen ...Jakalope?

  145. working at M5 by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How do you recruit talent for M5? What qualifies someone to work there?

    1. Re:working at M5 by loki1978 · · Score: 0

      Brilliant question. My best pal and me would want to apply. We wish that everytime we see the workshop. We can offer alot of very diverse qualifications

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    2. Re:working at M5 by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      I don't know many people who -wouldn't- want to apply. :)

      What kills me about all of these guys is that they are all so well versed in using so many different tools, techniques, and materials. There are people that work as electricians, machinists, carpenters, welders, etc. all of their lives, that couldn't do half of what the M5 guys do.

    3. Re:working at M5 by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      Whoah, I mis-read that as "How do you recruit talent for MI5"

      Must. Reduce. Coffee. Intake.

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    4. Re:working at M5 by loki1978 · · Score: 0

      i totally agree with you Diversity is their strong side. That's why we would want to work for them. I am more the tech, geek, science guy, with a strong affinity to tools and handcraft.
      My pal is more the machine and tool guy. Welding, building, repairing, maintaining is all his job. But he has a good understanding of tech and science.
      We both love history, a source for many myths and urban legends.

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  146. The Methodology of Busting by What+Is+Dot · · Score: 1

    Dear Myth Busters, How does the scientific method affect your "busting" procedure and your testing process?

  147. Most importantly... by MullerMn · · Score: 1

    What's Kari's phone number, and does she visit the UK often? :)

  148. Tin Foil Hats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, do Tin Foil Hats really work?

    1. Re:Tin Foil Hats? by gurutc · · Score: 1

      Mit did a study this year on this: http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ Turns out the bad guys have found ways to use the hats against us.

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    2. Re:Tin Foil Hats? by Sarcastic+Assassin · · Score: 1

      I'd actually be really interested to see the tin-foil hat myth tested. It's the perfect combination of entertainment and simplified science that the Mythbusters represent. Plus, it's a relatively quick and painless myth to do; they could stick it in as one of their auxiliary myths.

    3. Re:Tin Foil Hats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Already been done, and posted on Slashdot in the last couple of weeks.

  149. Sneezing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard several myths about sneezing, like, you can't sneeze with your eyes open, or that if you sneeze and cause a car acident you aren't liable. but the one that interests me the most is that by putting your finger under your nose you can stop yourself from sneezing. you always see it in cartoons and in cheesy old movies but does it work?

  150. Do you read Slashdot? by rastakid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Simple question but I'm curious: do you read Slashdot?

    1. Re:Do you read Slashdot? by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      They actually finish testing the myths. I think it's fairly clear that they don't read Slashdot. If they did, they'd just have a bunch of half-finished projects that never reached conclusion. :)

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    2. Re:Do you read Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but we haven't created a user account yet.

    3. Re:Do you read Slashdot? by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      Adam is a farker.

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  151. Your favorite rejected myth? by volpone · · Score: 1
    You must receive uncountable suggestions for myths to be busted. What was your favorite myth that you decided NOT to take on for some reason? Why did you reject it?

    Volpone

  152. Questions & Answers by MidWorldOddity · · Score: 1

    People have speculated on the progress of science in the United States vs. the rest of the world. Do you think that science in the United States is hindered?

  153. My question is... by handsome+b · · Score: 1

    can I have Kari Byron's phone number?

  154. Ballistics Gel by tdischino · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's the naughtiest/kinkiest thing you've ever molded with Ballistics Gel?

    1. Re:Ballistics Gel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and could you sell full body castings of Kari online?

    2. Re:Ballistics Gel by identity0 · · Score: 1

      That reminds me of an actual debate people had about ballistic gel.

      There are people who say that shooting ballistic gel isn't a good approximation of shooting a human, because it doesn't have bone, or muscle or tendons. Those would tend to lessen the blast effects of a bullet going through a human, supposedly. Do you think ballistics gel is a good simulation of shooting humans?

      Also, there are so many anecdotes and theories about which gun or caliber is 'more powerful', with no emperical testing (for obvious reasons). Do you think you'll ever devote a show to 'gun myths', specifically over which calibers are more powerful?

    3. Re:Ballistics Gel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Jamie does indeed make naughty things. Probably not with ballistics gel tho as it melts at roomtemperature and has a foul smell. From an interview with RC Driver magazine:

      RCD: Whats the strangest thing youve ever had to create for a client? JH: You dont want to know. A lot of kids read this magazine.

      Full interview can be found here http://www.rcdriver.com/articles/hyneman_1.shtml

      I`m tempted to suggest they make an episode with Kari testing Jamies "naughty" creations, with Scottie and Christine as special guests. But to suggest such a thing would just be rude ;)

  155. Here's one for you: by Elrac · · Score: 1

    Can you bust the myth that "Intelligent Design" is science?

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  156. god does play dice by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    god is everything, does everything and sees everything, so yes.

    Good read, another question brought up by that lecture is what do you find on the other side/event horizon of a black hole? Don't tell me its a jelly donut.

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    1. Re:god does play dice by ericcantona · · Score: 0

      there cannot be anything beyond a singularity. "Beyond" does not make sense ; as a singularity is a position on the boundary (of physical laws) of the system. Of couse, if we define 'black holes' as being non-singular then wider answers are possible. in such circumstances I personally think jam donuts are more likely ...

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  157. Why avoid science content? by Darth+Maul · · Score: 1

    Sometimes it seems like you go out of your way to avoid explaining things by physics, and instead rely on intuition and more "practical" explainations. Do you do this on purpose? Even when you get more technical, you've starting putting the "Warning: Science Content" signs in. As funny as that may seem, it's rather insulting. People need to know the science involved.

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    1. Re:Why avoid science content? by Indomitus · · Score: 1

      I don't have points to vote right now but I agree wholeheartedly with this. "Watch out! Here comes some learning!" is very offensive, especially for the audience of people interested in watching Mythbusters.

  158. Question by ninewands · · Score: 1

    How can I get a job on your show.

    I think it's positively criminal that you guys get paid to have all that fun!

    BTW, love the show.

  159. some Qs by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

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    How do you react about people who complain about the 'scientific'-ness of your activities?

    How do you react to people who come up to you all the time with 'great ideas' for the show?

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    And the Silly:
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    Are you going to do a show about
    1) MMR causing autism (suspected myth)
    2) Fluride being bad for you (suspected myth)
    3) The government controlling our minds, preventable with electronic caps (suspected myth)
    4) Homeopathy (Suspected myth)
    5) Black men have bigger private bits (suspected myth)
    6) WMDs (not gonna touch that)
    7) Noam Chompsky being right (suspected fact)

    1. Re:some Qs by kimvette · · Score: 1

      2) Fluride being bad for you (suspected myth)

      Brushing your teeth with it and spitting most of it out? Not terribly bad for you.

      Making a meal of flouride toothpaste? Yes, you can ingest too much flouride. Florine is poisonous, as are chlorine and dihydrogen monoxide in excessive amounts.

      4) Homeopathy (Suspected myth)

      Homeopathy as in using herbal remedies as medicines because the chemical reactions can cure some illnesses? Not a myth - where do you think most prescription medicines come from? Herbal extracts. Why do you think pharmaceutical companies are now attempting to patent herbal remedies? What about medical studies proving ginger is better at treating motion sickness than Rx medications (referenced in this very thread earlier, in fact)? What about coca leaves and poppy seeds being great painkillers, and coca leaves being great appetite suppressants? What about willow extracts being a great pain reliever (aka asprin)? Black Cohosh being a great treatment for menopausal symptoms without nasty side effects of horse urine extracts? Garlic being antibiotic and antiviral? Herbal remedies and a proper diet obviously affect your overall health and can help boost your immune system, and modern medicine is beginning to recognize ages-old remedies and pharmaceutical companies are scared and are trying to patent them (see /. yesterday or the day before).

      Homeopathy as in "energy" manipulation (toss Reiki, etc. in here while you're at it)? Tiny amounts of an herb changing your chi or yin/yang balance or whatever? Holding a certain kind of crystal balancing the same? Obviously bunk.

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    2. Re:some Qs by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

      Using Flouride as prescribed on the packet, not bad for you. Yes. But I'm talking about something different. And secondly, maybe you read the original post wrong. It was an attempt at light hearted humour. Hence that 'silly' bit.

  160. Wikipedia to the rescue (as always) by zanderredux · · Score: 2, Informative
    According to this:
    Toward the end of season two, Scottie Chapman left the show so that she could both pursue her true passion: metal working and, in her words, "Have a life." She was replaced by Grant Imahara, friend and sometimes coworker of Jamie and Adam. Imahara is most famous as the certified operator of movie icon R2-D2 for Industrial Light and Magic.
    1. Re:Wikipedia to the rescue (as always) by object88 · · Score: 1

      Grant is an excellent addition to the show. I don't recall the exact episodes he was on, but I do recall enjoying them significantly more than the average episode.

    2. Re:Wikipedia to the rescue (as always) by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      He's in all the episodes now. In fact, he, Kari, and Tory are getting billing at the front of the show this season with Adam and Jamie.

    3. Re:Wikipedia to the rescue (as always) by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Grant is also the designer and operator of one of the more successful contenders on BattleBots, Deadblow. That was the flat, low-center-of-gravity bot with the slope at the front to get under opponents and the pneumatic arm with the spike on the end that pounded opponents to pieces.

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  161. Military Technology by Puhase · · Score: 1

    I've seen many of your shows where you work together with people from the FBI so it seems that you have some government contacts. Is there any chance that you could get access to some declassified military tech that have many myths surronding them? A few examples I can think of off hand are the "raditiation poisoning" from depleted uranium shells and the "see through walls/clothing" of some of our newer, not newest, nightvision technology.
    Or, in our favorite world of blowing things up, how about the rumored inpenetrability of A-1 Abrahms tank armor? (Probably the most expensive to "bust")

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    1. Re:Military Technology by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Ok, couple of things here.

      First, DU won't cause radiation poisoning, but it IS toxic and it WILL cause "just plain poisoning".

      Second, "see through clothing" technology isn't a myth. Imaging infrared allows you to see body heat, you do the math. There are airport X-ray machines that allow security screeners to see, well, what religon you are. And the merits versus the privacy issues of that are being debated.

      Thirdly, I think you mean M-1A1 (or M-1A2) Abrams. The armor is a composite mixture of ceramics, steel and DU called Chobbam and it was actually developed in the UK. It's classified and expensive and impossible for civilians to get (legally), and how would you test it? Tank guns and anti-tank missiles aren't exactly legal either. Oh, and the M-1 isn't invulnerable. The heavy "impenetrable" armor only exists on the front glacis plate and turret front. The sides, top, rear and bottom (just like in every main battle tank) are not as well protected. There are many survivability features in the M-1, the armor is one part of that. Another is the design of the ammo storage area. In the event of an ammo hit the bay is designed to direct the explosion upwards out of the turret bustle, away from the crew.

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  162. Here's a Myth for Ya... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    Microsoft Windows XP is considered by several "unbiased" experts who have been paid by Microsoft to be "secure and stable". So whta gives? ;P hehehehe... amateurs...

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  163. Do you prefer busting or confirming? by dmorin · · Score: 1

    It seems like the vast majority of myths are busted, which is fine, given that they're supposed to be myths in the first place. But sometimes it seems like the entire show has gone the way of a confirmation, only to have the rules of the game be stretched toward the end -- "Welllllll, we have to look at *exactly* what the myth said, and our experiment did not duplicate it *exactly*, so therefore even though it worked, it's busted." Those feel like we've been cheated, like you're going out of your way to call them busted despite your experiment. Comment?

  164. The tower plane myth by koonat · · Score: 0

    Expose the myth of WTC building 7. Explain why fire would not have been hot enough to cause the uniform collapse of wtc7. (if feeling gutsy, take on the others too)

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  165. understanding neighbors by 5foot2 · · Score: 1

    You guys must have the best neighbors in the history of neighbors. How have you delt with keeping people around you happy with all the dead pigs rotting in cars, random gun fire, rocket engines being fired in the shop and stuff blowing up?

  166. For the mythbusters by Jorkapp · · Score: 1

    What inspired you two to switch from behind-the-scenes special-effects stuntmen to frontline TV personalities with your own show?

    BTW, love the show - myths meeting the reality of science has never been more entertaining to watch!

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  167. Octane Aditive really Boost Gas performance? by alettieri · · Score: 1

    Does Octane Booster aditives really boost your Gas Performance in a Car? Supposetly it's supposed to increase your Gas millage and engine Performance

    1. Re:Octane Aditive really Boost Gas performance? by kimvette · · Score: 1

      This is true only if your engine is pinging/knocking without the octane booster, or if your ECM is detecting engine knock and retarding the timing or enriching the fuel mixture too much to compensate. Generally only an issue on supercharged or high compression engines, or engines with carbon buildup, a lot of wear, or running a very advanced timing curve. Lean-burn engines and higher-temperature engines may incur this as well.

      Otherwise, higher octane is a waste.

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  168. Love the Show.....but.... by ILLEGAL+Alien · · Score: 1

    Love the show, watch it everyday to dinner, even reruns. But one question is always on my mind: Adam...What's with the mustashe? I heard a story that Adam doesn't have an upper lip, let's see you bust that myth.

  169. Myths to avoid? by immel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen a lot of questions so far about myths you would like to do if you had an unlimited budget, if you were invincible like Superman, or if danger to people, property, or reality in general was no object. But is there a myth that you would NOT do even if you had all those things? Do you believe that there are myths that are better left unsolved or too controvertial (basically flamebait myths)?

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    1. Re:Myths to avoid? by DaFallus · · Score: 1

      Like whether or not Bush actually caused hurricane Katrina?

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    2. Re:Myths to avoid? by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      Or whether humans and apes were created or evolved from a common ancestor, or whether the universe was created 7000 years ago or began in a big bang billions of years ago.

    3. Re:Myths to avoid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, on the Discovery Channel website where they solicit myth ideas, they mention several topics that are off-limits... Such as religious stuff, psychic stuff, and "quantum anything." (It doesn't seem to do any good, though; people want to discuss this stuff anyway.)

  170. Is the christmas lights webcam for real in 2005? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Alek pulled a fast one on the world in 2004 ... but claims it is real this year. He has 3 Christmas Cams up this year - what's the REAL story MythBusters?

    2004 Wall Street Journal story

    High-Tech Holiday Light Display

    Draws Everyone But the Skeptics

    By CHARLES FORELLE

    Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

    December 27, 2004 4:23 p.m.

    Flying in TV station KMGH's "Air Tracker 7" helicopter earlier this month, Alek Komarnitsky told the Denver ABC affiliate's audience about the 17,000 Christmas lights flashing a thousand feet below on his Colorado home.

    "You can go to my Web site and not only view the lights via Web cam but actually turn them on and off," said Mr. Komarnitsky, who lives northwest of Denver in Lafayette. "Which is exactly what we're seeing right now."

    "That's great," said one of the station's anchorwomen, over the chopper's whir.

    "That's wild," added a co-anchor.

    So wild, in fact, that it isn't true. In what he describes as an excess of desire to spread a little holiday cheer, Mr. Komarnitsky pulled off an Internet Christmas hoax worthy of April 1.

    The lights on his house are real enough. So is Mr. Komarnitsky's Web site, www.komar.org, which has seen 4.3 million hits this month as word of its supposed features was spread like a virus by news media and the Internet.

    But Mr. Komarnitsky now acknowledges there is no Web cam taking live pictures of the house. And, he adds, visitors to the site have no ability to switch the lights on and off. To fool KMGH into thinking it was broadcasting Web surfers switching the lights on and off, Mr. Komarnitsky says his wife was inside the house, working a remote control.

    "It's fake," says Mr. Komarnitsky. He says he decided to fess up because the whole thing "had gotten too big," and he didn't want to mislead anyone any longer.

    Via the ruse, Mr. Komarnitsky's abode became the Internet age's version of the neighborhood house with the dazzling Christmas show.

    Mr. Komarnitsky gave radio interviews to stations as far away as Australia. Web sites from NYTimes.com to geek hangout Slashdot.org linked to his site. An Associated Press item about his site was picked up by newspapers from Los Angeles to Columbia, S.C. As of midday Monday, according to Mr. Komarnitsky, the "Web cam" was asked by online visitors to snap a new picture in the same spot 334,832 times. The lights had supposedly been changed 91,978 times. But instead of a live camera, komar.org is really showing off 32 high-resolution digital photographs, taken in four sets with different amounts of snow on the ground. A sophisticated computer program, which Mr. Komarnitsky wrote with input from a friend skilled in digital imaging, serves up a section of the appropriate photo, depending on actual weather conditions and what lights the online Web visitors expect to see.

    For extra verisimilitude, sometimes the program digitally adds in passing cars. One in five pictures is generated with fake airplanes in the expansive Colorado sky. The human-shaped shadow occasionally seen walking past the ornament drawn in lights on the lawn? A digital apparition, nothing more. Occasionally the software shows the garage door up.

    "I'll get e-mails saying, 'Hey, Alek, your garage door is open,'" he says.

    Hoaxes have a storied history in the annals of technology, and the Internet provides a fertile field for cultivating them. Some are banal -- earlier this year, the town of Aliso Viejo, Calif., considered banning foam cups because they contained a substance called "dihydrogen monoxide." A city employee fell for a prank Web page decryi

  171. special effects and cgi by tmbailey123 · · Score: 1

    Love your show !

    How has the advances and use of computer graphics impacted and change the nature of your business with the film producers ? I would guess that the type of effects or work you are asked to perform has changed somewhat because of advancement of computer graphics technology.

  172. Exploding seagulls would make better TV (plus joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Throw alka-seltzer into the air and see if seagulls really do eat them and explode.

    Which reminds me of the homeless guy caught by the ranger eating roasted seagulls on the beach.. The ranger said its ok to have a fire, but its not ok to eat seagulls... I'm going to have to give you a ticket. The homeless man says, hey-I'm down on my luck, and there are plenty of seagulls--really, just let me off with a warning. The ranger says, well, alright... but by the way... what do they taste like? the homeless guy replies... delicious! Not as chewy as spotted owl and a better flavor than bald eagle!

  173. REJECTED MYTHS? by RUFFyamahaRYDER · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems like you guys are willing to try to bust any myth, but there have got to be some myths out there that you are too afraid to attempt to replicate. So my questions is:

    What are some of the rejected myths that were too dangerous to pull off and why?

    BTW - Thank you for having a great show that is both entertaining and educational.

  174. Car Myths by dcw · · Score: 1

    Love your show! Destructive testing is the way to go.

    What is your favourite Car Myth?

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    1. Re:Car Myths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they should recreate what is described in the "Impressions and Notes" section at http://www.allpar.com/model/dodge-diplomat.html

  175. one of these days by microcars · · Score: 1
    you guys are going to really screw up big time and there will be an opening for a "new" Mythbuster.

    Case In Point:
    The "Will Water Stop Bullets" episode

    You make a tank INDOORS
    Fill it with WATER
    It LEAKS
    You patch it up
    Then you bring in the Lighting gear and with Cables and Connectors all over the Floor:
    You fire a Shotgun into it!

    And there is "surprise" when the tank fails?

    "Quick! Turn off the Power!"

    wtf kids?

    You go to the Desert or the Parking Lot for many things, but you choose to fire off a NitrousOxide/Wax Fuel Rocket in the Shop and you are surprised at the amount HEAT and SMOKE generated?

    I guess I don't have a question, sorry.

    Love your show, biggest fan, etc etc

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  176. A more grand Myth? by radiumhahn · · Score: 1
    I think the show is great! Have you heard the myth of the "Radio Active Boy Scout"? Is this myth outside the scope of what you can take on?

    Radio Active Boy Scout Myth

    Thanks!

  177. Antigravity/Space/Time by spaceracer · · Score: 1

    Have you considered busting the myth on antigravity? Space/Time warping? Philadelphia experiment, Hutchison effect, Einstein's "Unified Field Theory" and so on.. Does a large magnetic field slow down or speed up a analog clock? Would using magenetic fields in vehicles make them weight less? Is it fact or fiction, and who will be able to tell?

  178. Show Me the Limits! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not merely concerned with budgetary constraints.

    What kind of limits are there on how much "deep science" you're willing to confront? For instance, the MicroNuke Myth: to the effect that Hafnium 172 nuclei can be caused via x-ray bombardment to enter a state of excitation called m2, metastable for a 30 year half-life, and triggerrable via bombardment with another x-ray frequency. 1 gram approximately equal to 500 kilograms TNT, or so I hear on the street corner. Might bore the heck out of the mainstream, but your core audience would eat it up, I bet.

    What kinds of political limitations are there on your subject matter? Would a history of the New Orleans levee construction and hurricane threat analysis be doable in today's climate?

    How about confronting the rising tide of general nonsense? Astrology for instance, nutritional and medical fads, free energy fraud, Project Apollo denial, the list goes on.

    Martin Gardner and James Randi are modern day prophets in humble service to the Holy Spirit of Truth. They rule my world.

    Carry On!

  179. What I really want to know is.... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Is the myth of the killer apes true?

    1. Re:What I really want to know is.... by hammackj · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are called homo sapiens.

  180. Huge Myth, Needs Busting by Zediker · · Score: 0

    Currently there is a big myth out there perpetrated(sp) mainly by the media and people not in the know. This myth is about humans only using 10% of their brain. This is false, humans use all of their brain, we wouldnt be walking around if we didnt. Please set this one straight so I can stop hearing this falacy every other day.

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    1. Re:Huge Myth, Needs Busting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're on the Internet! If you're not sure about the spelling, look it up. In short, go eat a bag of hell.

  181. Unwilling by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 1

    Is there any myth that you're unwilling to bust?

  182. Snake Venom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read in a book once (I think it was The Yearling), that if you're bit by a rattlesnake and you apply a fresh deer liver to the wound it will help draw out some venom and increase your chances of not dying. When and how do you plan on testing this popular urban myth?

    1. Re:Snake Venom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Popular?

      Urban?

  183. MS TCO Myth by MrCopilot · · Score: 1
    Come on guys we really need an Independent study.

    Myth: Windows TCO lower than Linux.

    P.S. We all have busted it, but we'd like to see it advertised on national TV to our bosses. Favorite Myth: Lightning in the Shower/Bathtub. Too bad the safety squad wouldn't let you power up the pc while testing.

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  184. AC vs. Windows Down.. by dentar · · Score: 1

    I love the show, but there is one test that I watched where I went away totally thinking that you guys just plain blew it. It was the "air conditioner vs. rolling the windows down" test.

    Here is how you guys "ruined" the test:

    1: You slowed down to 45 miles per hour. Wind drag with 10 less MPG is SIGNIFICANTLY less than at 55 or 65 MPH. I bicycle, I know all about wind drag. One or two extra MPH can really hurt!!

    2: You had no real way of knowing the exact MPG because if the tank is NEAR empty and one person's driving is more erratic than the other, the fuel pump can "suck air" making the engine stall out before the thing has really run completely dry.

    3: The diagnostic computer was RIGHT. The windows being down did suck more fuel than the AC because the car's computer is REQUIRED to keep the air/fuel ratio constant. More air means more fuel, period.

    The test would have been more convincing had you put fuel rate measuring devices in the fuel lines.

    All your other stuff, though, is really horrorshow!!! :-) Especially Kari! Who can't fall in wuv with THAT!!

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    1. Re:AC vs. Windows Down.. by dentar · · Score: 1

      Duh, in #1 above, should read 10 less MPH, not MPG. DUH!!

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  185. Mythbusters as a Teaching Tool by tasmonia · · Score: 1

    Hey there, I enjoy your show when I'm able to watch it. As a graduate student and teaching assistant one of my favorite things about the show is that it essentially teaches hypothesis testing, though in an informal way. Have you ever thought of emphasizing this aspect of scientific inquiry on your show or producing edited versions for schools where you can cut away from the show to state and analyze your hypotheses explicitly? I think this would be a great pedagogical tool at the high school and undergraduate level. The show is engaging and familiar to young people and I think it would be well integrated into scientific curricula. Thanks!

  186. The Bees Knees by deervark · · Score: 0

    Can you really freeze a bee or a beetle, tie a string to it, thaw it out, and then have a little bug on a leash?

  187. Movie experience by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 1

    I'm curious about your special effects experience...What movie or TV scenes can you point to and say "I made that happen."?

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    1. Re:Movie experience by Lancer · · Score: 1
      Adam Savage: http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1144726/
      Jamie Hyneman: http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1367178/

      Click on the bio links for more info about them.

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  188. Well, *someone* doesn't watch the show... by schon · · Score: 1

    He went to the same place as...

    If you'd watched the show, you'd know that Scottie is a she (and a very attractive one,) not a he.

    1. Re:Well, *someone* doesn't watch the show... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you'd watched the show, you'd know that Scottie is a she (and a very attractive one,) not a he.

      Attractive? Hah! She's a skanky chick covered with tatoos.

    2. Re:Well, *someone* doesn't watch the show... by tgd · · Score: 1
      Attractive? Hah! She's a skanky chick covered with tatoos.


      Yes. Exactly.

  189. "New Myths" by bkruiser · · Score: 1

    How many people try supplying you with newly contrived myths just to see if they get on TV? How do you filter out what are unrepeated vs. local or relatively unknown myths?

  190. Cement Mixer by xdroop · · Score: 1

    What was the pricetag to blow up the cement mixer? That was a seriously cool stunt -- I giggle uncontrollably everytime I see it.

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  191. Whose gotten injured the most? by tom581 · · Score: 1

    I want to know who has gotten the most injuries during the "busting".
    I suspect Adam, due to his "nature".
    Okay guys, who gets the titanium laptop?

  192. Experimental Rigour by untermensch · · Score: 1

    I read an interview with Adam a while ago in which he addressed the fact that what we see on TV doesn't alway look very scientifically rigorous. You pointed out that it's not possible to cover all the experiments you perform on a 1-hour episode and claimed that more experiments and testing were actually done. Could you go into more detail on that point? ie. For those episodes that people have particular problems with (probably all mentioned in the comments of this thread) can you describe what steps you took that never made it to TV.

  193. Debunk these: by duckpoopy · · Score: 1

    How about debunking the Rop Stewart and Richard Gere urban legends?

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  194. Tesla's Power Grid by gurutc · · Score: 1

    Dear Bustahs: Did Mr. Tesla really have a way to send vast to unlimited amounts of electric or other energies through the earth with neglible loss? - gurutc

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    1. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by Professr3 · · Score: 1

      Yes, he did. An approximately 180-foot tower attached to a 10-foot tesla coil, somewhere in northern Canada, would be able to effectively cause resonation in the Schumann cavity (area between the earth and the upper atmosphere, I believe). Unfortunately, since it IS resonance, the entire world would be enveloped in a mounting electrical field, and, without devices to bleed off that field, we would all die from electrocution.

    2. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by gurutc · · Score: 1

      Well that sure sounds like something to test!!! Also, could something like the theorized electromagnetic field be used to augment the Earth's own weakening magnetic field in order to better deflect solar radiation which causes damage to us and theoretically swept the atmosphere away from Mars when it's own magnetic field died due to the death of Mars' geologically active core?

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    3. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 1

      seems less like a question for the mythbusters as a question for an electromagnetic physisist.

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    4. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by gurutc · · Score: 1

      No, I think building a 180 foot tower with a Tesla coil on top is easily within range of our heroes' capabilities.

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    5. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 1

      Actually I was refering to your post.

      could something like the theorized electromagnetic field be used to augment the Earth's own weakening magnetic field in order to better deflect solar radiation which causes damage to us and theoretically swept the atmosphere away from Mars when it's own magnetic field died due to the death of Mars' geologically active core?

      But you may not have meant that as a question for the mythbusters and might have just been asking a question in general.

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    6. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by gurutc · · Score: 1

      I was just ranting, you are correct, but the headline might read:

      'Mythbusters Save Earth!'

      - I'll do anything to get my question picked!

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    7. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by Professr3 · · Score: 1

      No, this electromagnetic field would be oscillating, while the Earth's field is polar. I suppose it could possibly even make the situation worse by disturbing the earth's natural field in localized areas.

    8. Re:Tesla's Power Grid by gurutc · · Score: 1

      Now we're really off-topic, but you could tune the oscillations to a resonant frequency to form standing waves along the Earth's current flux-lines.

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  195. Libility aside.... by DarthVain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the stupidest thing either of you have done for the show? or conversly what was the stupidest thing that you almost did, and at last minute were like "Hmmm maybe not such a good idea..."?

    1. Re:Libility aside.... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      What is the stupidest thing either of you have done for the show? or conversly what was the stupidest thing that you almost did, and at last minute were like "Hmmm maybe not such a good idea..."?
      Browsing /. at -1?
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    2. Re:Libility aside.... by MrCopilot · · Score: 1
      What is the stupidest thing either of you have done for the show?



      Answer: Stick my tongue in a vacuum motor!



      Gotta admit, it was damn fine television.

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      OSGGFG - Open Source Gamers Guide to Free Games
    3. Re:Libility aside.... by Nerull · · Score: 1

      While nobody got hurt, firing the hybrid rocket motor indoors was a very bad idea. They should have called Eric Gates before instead of after, as he would have told them how stupid the idea was...plus outdoor test + cameras = nice video (that motor did have a nice flame), rather than a shop full of smoke.

  196. Sortof true by Esteanil · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, I remember watching a TV show from a Norwegian special forces (Marinejegere) training operation.
    They exited a submarine through a torpedo tube at very low depth (apx. 7 meters), using oxygen rebreathers to avoid bubbles. It was awesome to watch and absolutely invisible from the surface.
    So what I'd say is that *leaving* a submarine through a torpedo tube is possible, but being "shot out"? Well, as far as I know what "shoots" most torpedoes out is their own propulsion system.

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  197. Why did you bust the myth about sinking ship? by Quebec · · Score: 1

    Why did you bust the myth about sinking ship creating succion?

    In one of your experiments on the subject I remember clearly one of you sitting unattached on a cement block sinking rapidly, following it at the same speed not letting time to escape. Exactly why didn't it qualify as proof that a sinking object can pull people with it?

    1. Re:Why did you bust the myth about sinking ship? by untouchableForce · · Score: 1

      As an addition to this, I think that the amount of air still trapped within the hull of the ship would make for a very important piece of the experiment. In your experiment the ship was nearly completely filled with water when it sank leaving very little space of the boat to fill with water once it submerges. I think it would make sense that the suction of a boat sinking would be as a result of the water trying to fill in the remaining air space of the boat. I think that this would be a very difficult myth to prove as the costs would be enormous, and the only way to get the water to fill in the boat fast enough would require a hole so large that'd it'd most likely destroy the boat after a single sinking.

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  198. Sex in a Pool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard that if you have sex in a pool, you have to shove your thumb up the girls butt to get your dick out (vacuum). confirmed or busted???

    1. Re:Sex in a Pool by georgeha · · Score: 1

      busted.

      Am I the only slashdotter to fool around in a pool?

  199. The Bridge Episode by untouchableForce · · Score: 1

    I've always intended to write to you questioning your experiment on if soldiers walking across a bridge could create a "Sin Wave" that results in the collapse of the bridge. You took the time to build a scale bridge, and to create mechanical soldiers that walked in sync, all of which shows amazing dedication. But you overlooked that you didn't connect the ends of your bridge to anything, and they were flapping in the wind. In order to create that kind of a wave wouldn't it make sense that the ends of the bridge would have to be attached so the force could resonate?

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  200. How'd you start? by 3D+Monkey · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm curently a student of 3D special effects and animation. Physical effects and mechanical engineering have always been a secret passion of mine.

    How did you start your careers in physical special effects, and what training does it take to be a "mythbuster"?

  201. Censorship by nsayer · · Score: 1

    Recently, in the Confederate Rocket episode, the spectre of censorship reared its ugly head. You folks chose not to reveal some of the steps for making some of the (arguably quite dangerous) chemicals. I don't wish to argue the merits of that decision. But it does raise a question: Have there been any stories that have not made it to air simply because it was necessary to chop so much out of it that it was no longer air-worthy? Has there been any self-censorship in story selection ("we'll never be able to clear THAT...")?

    1. Re:Censorship by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Personally I think "Hey kids, this is how to make guncotton!" really is best left out of prime time TV. And it's not like a determined enough retard couldn't find a method on the internet, the issue I think is the show not wanting Johnny Six-Fingers trying to sue because "he saw it on TV".

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    2. Re:Censorship by nsayer · · Score: 1

      Like I said, I didn't want to argue the merits of the decision (I agree with everything you said in your post). I just wanted to know if there had been any other incidents of censorship in the show's production - particularly any that we wouldn't know about because it never made it to air.

    3. Re:Censorship by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Is the renowned "Terrorists' Handbook" actually salted with errors by the CIA so that anyone trying certain formulas will blow themselves up?

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      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  202. Embarrasing Moment by bstuff · · Score: 1

    What's been your most embarrassing moment on and off the show?

    Personally, I think the vacuum motor to the lip was pretty embarrasing. Or maybe being painted gold in undies?

  203. Wow. You don't watch the show. by technoextreme · · Score: 1
    Let me firstly say that I like your show as entertainment. However, I do not like it as a form of true skepticism or as science. What you do is fun and interesting, but it is not rigorous. I'm thinking particularly of the time you tried to flip a taxi with a jet engine, which failed on your show, but which actually happened in real life. So it's not obvious that a failure on your show means anything.

    Or else you wouldn't have picked such a stupid example. The reason why they couldn't reproduce the myth was because they didn't use a plane. It's kind of hard to prove something can't be done when you can't even replicate the scenario exactly.
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  204. Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by Deven · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most restaurants seem to believe that ice is free, and therefore tend to overfill the ice to save money on soda. However, the energy required to freeze water to make ice should be considered -- is the real cost of ice actually less than the cost of an equivalent volume of soda?

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    1. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by DoorFrame · · Score: 1

      Well, just make sure you include the energy costs of chilling the soda. I don't know of many places that provide you with luke-warm soda even if you ask for no ice.

    2. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      They overfill on ice because they're dicks.

      At my local movie theater (14 screens), the difference between a small medium and large is a quarter. Its a given that you're already being ripped off to the tune of $3, but compare prices at your local fast food place. Soda is pretty damn cheap.

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    3. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Commercial ice machines mostly run continuously, with stored ice melting fast enough to rinse the chamber out. This means there's not much reduction in energy cost if you don't use the ice: it's on its way down the drain anyway.

    4. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      This is why I like getting drinks at fast-food joints that let you get your own drinks. Not only can you get free refills on a small, but you can get all beverage with no ice and it'll still be cold. I mean, sure, they're probably still ripping you off, but they make it feel like you're ripping them off.

    5. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Go to a groceryt store and see the quantity of ice you can buy for $1.00. Then see the quantity of soda pop that you can get for $1.00.

      Then factor in that restaurants never store ice very long because they are constantly using it.

      Yes, they carbonated syrup is more expensive

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    6. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by wipis · · Score: 1

      As a person who has worked in several resturants over several years I would like to see this myth "busted" or confirmed. The place I have worked in longer then any other has constant repair problems with the ice machine and I often wonder if we were to cut back on the ice would it save us money. On the subject of ice me and my father have debated this and hes a smart man and he claims he tested it; What freezes faster hot water or cold water?

    7. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by SeanTobin · · Score: 1

      Hot water vs cold water freezing is simple. The hot water freezes faster.

      The reason this happens is that the hot water begins to evaporate reducing its volume (and cooling off very quickly) so there is less water to actually freeze. Less water freezes faster. Grab yourself a couple 9x12 baking pans, fill one with hot water and one with cold water and place outside in some snow (or in your freezer, but keep in mind if your freezer isn't a frost-free model, this is generally a bad idea) and wait until one freezes. It will be the hot water pan.

      Now, if you are freezing water with the intention of making ice, use cold water as you will end up with more of it.

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    8. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by Surt · · Score: 1

      You have to factor in that if they don't deliver you any ice, the soda isn't cold enough. So they get some ice-making overhead essentially for free, and only need to produce enough additional ice to defray your soda expense.

      Besides which, eat at a restaurant with unlimited refills, and you'll have none of these worries.

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    9. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

      No, no, no - it has nothing to do with *expense*. It was everything to do with *income*. That normal medium looking glass leaves customers thirsty with a cup of leftover ice. Therefore customers are trained to buy larger (and more expensive) size drinks.

      McDonalds doesn't profit by making great hamburgers. They profit by being great at *selling* hamburgers.

    10. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by macoppock007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll take a crack at answering this question. Please note, though, that this estimate makes a lot of assumptions. All assumptions are listed below.

      1. You purchase a 20-oz soda (or 600 mL) from McDonalds. Let's assume they fill the cup to the top with ice, and let's assume that if you melted the ice, you'd displace 300 mL of the cup with water. (i.e. in order to "save money", they give you 300 mL of soda and 300 mL of water, instead of a full 600 mL of soda.)

      2. How much energy does it take to cool 300 mL of room temp (25 C) water to, say, -10 C? To answer this question, we need to break it up into 3 parts:

      a. What is the energy required to cool water from 25 C to 0 C? Using the equation Q = c m deltaT, where c is the specific heat of water (1 cal/g C), m is the mass of water (300 g, assuming a density for water of 1 g/mL) and deltaT is the change in temperature (25 C), the energy required is 7,500 cal.

      b. What is the energy required to freeze water? The specific latent heat of fusion for water is 80 cal/g. So 300 g of water would require 24,000 cal.

      c. What is the energy required to cool water from 0 C to -10 C? Using the same equation as (a) above, except using 0.48 cal/g C as the specific heat of ice, and 10 C as the deltaT, the energy required would be 1,440 cal.

      This is a total energy requirement of 32,940 cal. There are 859,845 cal in 1 kwh (kilowatt hour). So it would require approximately 0.038 kwh to freeze this quantity of ice.

      3. What does this amount of electricity cost? Assuming that electricity costs 10 cents per kwh (a high estimate), and that the freezer used is only about 10% efficient (probably a high estimate as well), then it would cost about 4 cents.

      4. What does an equivalent amount of soda cost? A quick cursory search on Google found that 5 gal of Coca-Cola syrup can be had for $40.00. This is mixed 4.5 parts carbonated water to 1 part syrup, so the effective amount of soda produced by this 5 gal container is 22.5 gal. This comes out to be about 47 cents per liter; 300 mL would cost 14 cents. (This assumes that the cost of carbonated water, and the electricity to precool the syrup and water, is zero. So the effective price of the soda is actually higher.)

      5. Conclusion: McDonalds saves 10 cents by filling your cup brim full with ice. With billions served, that comes out to a lot of money!

    11. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by wcbarksdale · · Score: 1

      Studies have shown that the Mpemba effect is not caused solely by evaporation. See http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_ water.html

    12. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 1

      A quick cursory search on Google found that 5 gal of Coca-Cola syrup can be had for $40.00.

      You can bet that McDonalds franchises don'y pay anywhere near $40 for 5 gal of syrup.

    13. Re:Which is actually cheaper, soda or ice? by Michael+Spencer+Jr. · · Score: 1

      1. Why isn't the parent at +5 yet?

      2. While the ideal numbers make it look like a clear win for ice instead of soda, I wonder what things look like if you move out of the classroom and into the real world? Both numbers could start getting pretty messy. As another poster states, McDonalds might get Coke much cheaper, and I submit that ice machines aren't 100% efficient.

      So how's this for an efficiency experiment:

      How much energy does an ice machine consume when it's just maintaining an unused load of ice for a long period of time?

      How much energy does the ice machine consume when you remove ice at a slow rate (10 medium soda cups per hour)? At a fast rate (200 medium soda cups per hour)? How much energy does the ice machine consume when you empty it and wait for it to refill its container?

      Can you get a local non-24-hour McDonalds to allow you to install power monitoring equipment on each of their ice machines, and to present you with information on ice consumption (soda sales) throughout your day of sampling?

      (There will be a couple of hours before employees come in where all ice machines are full of ice and just 'maintaining' their loads. There are, aren't there? I've never worked in fast food. So you can extrapolate that those hours represent the base cost of operating ice machines without removing any ice. The difference between that and the higher, real-world cost of the ice machines represents the energy cost of the ice used that day.)

      This would give you real-world numbers for energy cost per quantity of ice.

  205. Sacred Cows by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 1

    Religion, of course, is filled with myths, big and little, obvious and subtle. Would you ever consider tackling some of the stickier religious myths?

    For example, there is absolutely no mention at all in any historical document of a certain Jesus until the year 70 or so--there aren't even any documents citing documents written before then. Contemporaries like Philo of Alexandria made absolutely no mention at all of Jesus or any of the notable events of the Gospels. The ``best'' evidence we /do/ have is horribly self-contradictory and laughably full of outrageous claims: on the one hand, Jesus stoically remained silent at his trial, refusing to say even one word; on the other, he spoke eloquently and at great length in his own defense. Thousands of dead people supposedly roamed the streets of Jerusalem, yet nobody thought to make mention of that fact until the Gospels were written a couple generations later. And no two accounts of the Ascension bear any semblance to each other.

    At the least, doing a show investigating such a myth would do wonders for your ratings....

    Cheers,

    b&

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    1. Re:Sacred Cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how would you design a test for the myth? Attempt the acension yourself?

      Religious myths aren't fodder for this sort of thing. Because:

      1. Religion isn't science, no matter what the Kansas Board of Ed says.

      2. It is impossible to repeat events supposedly directly influenced by a higher power. That's "higher" and "power" not "Black" and "Decker".

      3. The results, which would almost certainly come out "busted", wouldn't influence true believers because of the nature of faith. Faith, by definition, exists in the absence of evidence.

      So it would all pretty much be a waste of time.

  206. Questions... by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First off, i love the show. They seem like really nice folks.

    Adam worked on some of the Star Wars films. Which ones and what was his specific job as apart of the special fx team?

    It's nice to see a "mr wizard" like show on TV. Like Don Herbert, they make science look fun and exciting. Which is always a good thing in todays world. We need more American's motivated by science and its one of the few shows that easily exposes new people to science and special fx work.

    Have shows like Mr Wizard, American Scientific Frontiers, Bill Nye the Science guy, Nova, and the likes influenced them? How important is the educational aspects to the program? I've noticed that they do try to explain things and often there are things that can be learned. It seems they balance the "awe" with the "knowledge" aspects of the show thus keeping it it fun, entertaining and still very educational.

    Have there been any close calls? Anything that hasnt aired that might be of interest? :)

  207. Buster the Crash Test Dummy by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

    The crash test dummy's name is Buster.

    1. Re:Buster the Crash Test Dummy by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      Buster was the original, but don't they have a whole family of them now, or was that just for the giant slingshot episode?

  208. Busted Mythbusters Experiment... by hcob$ · · Score: 1

    What's your response to the MIT students busting your show about the Death Ray?

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    1. Re:Busted Mythbusters Experiment... by wubboy · · Score: 1

      Was thinking about the death ray.. why not have all the multiple mirrors aimed at one fixed position. then aim that one fixed position to the target? would that not eliminate the whole "targeting" thing?

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    2. Re:Busted Mythbusters Experiment... by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      I take it you don't actually watch the show...

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  209. Please Blow More Things Up!!! by gurutc · · Score: 1

    Please Blow More Things Up!!! There just aren't enough real explosions versus simulated ones on TV these days!

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  210. Beer/Beverage Cooling Contraptions by Render_Man · · Score: 1

    Quick bit of backstory:

    At this past years Defcon Hacker conference in Las Vegas a buddy of mine, after seeing your beer cooling episode decided to hold a 'beer/beverage cooling contraption' contest among the attendee's. At a hacker convention known for copius amounts of alcohol and in ~120F temp, it was a great idea.

    There were Several different entries all using different styles. My entry was a styrofoam cooler filled with isopropyl alcohol and dry ice, creating a ~-65F bath that was good at rapidly cooling the beer, but not so fast as to be impossible to regulate immersion time and keep from freezing it into a beer block of ice! The solution worked so well and stayed so cold I kept the cooler with me, flash chilling everyones drink that went by for the rest of the weekend.

    All that said, after participating in a contest spawned by your investigation and creativity, I was wondering what sort of other events, contests, research, contraptions, etc that you (and your undercredited build team!) had been named (or blamed) as the inspiration for, and which was your favorite?

    P.s. We are having another beer cooling contest next year, we need judges!

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  211. Re: So sick of her... by letsgetsilly · · Score: 1

    I can't stand how hard she tries to be cute, and how much screen time they give her. She has the personality of a smiling board, her position on the mythbuster's team seems very forced and out of place.

  212. All ready have an engineer by technoextreme · · Score: 1
    I love the show, and maybe this would ruin the show's mainstream appeal, but I'd LOVE to have a couple of resident Physicists and Engineers advising them to get more rigorous results. Things get waaaaay too oversimplified.
    Sigh.... One of the mythbusters is an enginer. Guess which one. No. Im not kidding.
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  213. The obvious question from geeks to geeks... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    Were you in some way aware of Slashdot before this interview? :-)

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  214. Correcting myself by Esteanil · · Score: 2

    After doing a tiny bit of research I see that "When the launch command is given and all interlocks are satisfied, the water ram operates, thrusting a large volume of water into the tube at high pressure, which ejects the torpedo from the tube with considerable force. In fact, modern torpedoes have a safety mechanism that prevents activation of the torpedo unless the torpedo senses the required amount of G-force."
    In the aforementioned training exercise however, they did not utilize this water ram, merely closing the tube behind, filling the torpedo tube with water and then opening the other end of the tube letting them out. There was some risk involved as the torpedo tube was a rather tight fit, and there were places their equipment could get stuck.

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  215. Breaking Glass by gsparrow · · Score: 1

    With all the hurricanes this season I've wondered if putting tape on your glass windows does anything?

    1. Re:Breaking Glass by DennisInDallas · · Score: 1

      yeah, it makes the shards a lot easier to handle. But ya gotta cover the whole window and don't get any on the frame.

  216. Indoor Testing by jwriney · · Score: 1

    This one's mainly directed at Jamie. Ordinarily, when you guys are doing something hazardous, you're the stickler for common sense and safety during experimentation. (Which is great; the world needs more common sense.) What was up with that indoor motor test in "Confederate Rocket"? Standing next to an untested hybrid motor (especially one of that size) during its first firing seems like a categorically bad idea, with a number of unpleasantly gory failure modes. I was actually pretty surprised that you'd agree to testing in that fashion. I know reality shows are cut to make things seem more dramatic, but that looked pretty bad regardless.

    --John Riney

  217. Real Engineering by nuggz · · Score: 1

    I know it is a TV show and you have to entertain your audience.

    Why do you not perform real engineering to determine/predict the results. For example some simple force/strength/thermo calculations could predict the outcome in advance.
    This could demonstrate the value of a technical education. As it is most people think I just sit at a desk and drink coffee since I don't actually "do anything"

  218. A tough one.. by handmedowns · · Score: 1

    Is Hillary Clinton really a woman??!

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  219. What havent you tried to bust these myths? :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coca-Cola is an effective spermicide
    Masterbation will make you go blind

    Or have you and you just arent telling the results ;).

  220. Sorry, I'm blind :-( by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    Feel free to mod my parent post to hell :p

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=169058 &cid=14091102

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  221. Jobs... by CmdrPorno · · Score: 1

    I'm not referring specifically to MythBusters or M5, but what qualifications are needed in order to work for a special effects studio, and how does one gain those qualifications?

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  222. So tell me by akaina · · Score: 1

    Is it really possible to use SCO's hot-air to carry their products to new markets in other countries?

    I would suggest fitting a face-mold of Darl McBride with a snorkle of some kind.

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    Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
  223. Correction: Achimedes' Death Ray by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen your show in much depth, but I have yet to know of an episode where a Myth was confirmed. After reading about the MIT confirmation (http://web.mit.edu/2.009/www/lectures/10_Archimed esResult.html/) of the Archimedes' Death Ray, would you at least be willing to either A) Attempt to reproduce the MIT experiment to the letter or B) concede?

    1. Re:Correction: Achimedes' Death Ray by scronline · · Score: 1

      Crap, I thought that seemed funny that I was using a philosopher. Thanks for the correction. They have had a few myths that were confirmed. I can't remember what they were off the top of my head. But this particular one after seeing the site you pasted, they had the MIT students come out to CA and have them reproduce their findings. Of course with the wind and cooler air out here from PA they couldn't get it to work.

  224. Have you tried busting this myth: by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 1

    Windows has lower Total Cost of Ownership than Linux.

  225. Professionals by Ogre332 · · Score: 1

    At various points throughout each episode, you run a short message warning everyone not to try this at home and that you two are professionals. How did you get to be professionals and what are your qualifications and educational background?

    Keep up the great fun.

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  226. Too dangerous or risque? by jferris · · Score: 1

    Have either of you had a myth that you really wanted to try to do within the context of the show, but that Discovery Channel though was too dangerous or risque for them? If so, can you please share with the audience? ;-)

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  227. Bust the myth there are female readers of /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one want to see this myth exposed... there is no way that a female geek 1) exists and 2) reads slashdot!

  228. Cast Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happened to Scotty? Last I saw her, she did an appearance on Monster Garage but has all but disappeared from your show.

  229. The ultimate myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should try to prove the myth that bush actually won 2 elections

  230. Regarding Potential Volunteers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C'mon people, here is the obvious oppertunity to have Slashdot myths put right.

    For example:
    Is it true that nerds can never get laid?

  231. Anything from McGuyver... by foniksonik · · Score: 1

    or going back further.... and still related, does watching too much TV "rot your brain"????

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  232. While not technically myths... by JFMulder · · Score: 1

    Have you guys ever considered testing all these Internet spam messages. Like "Enlarge you Penis", "Get a University Diploma for free" and so on? There seems to be endless materials on that subject. You could have an Internet Special.

  233. Jamie Vs Adam by jmazzi · · Score: 0

    It seems sometimes your personalities conflict on the show. Has this ever become a problem to the point where you had to just stop shooting and leave?

  234. Do they retract Incorrect Conclusions? by John+Jamieson · · Score: 1

    no, this is not a troll. I have watched several good episodes so please leave my karma intact, I watched an episode once were they compare fuel mileage while using Air conditioning to driving with windows open. The whole episode seemed designed to mislead.. Either they are incompetent and got bad advice on setting it up, or are decieptful. The conclusion was that Open Windows are more efficent. The conclusion should have been - At highway speeds AC is almost always more efficent, in stop and go traffic it may be less efficent at times! (With the additional info that an areodynamic car suffers more from open windows than does a pickup.) The test used LARGE sport utility vehicles that are as areodynamically efficent as a brick. As a result, driving with windows open will create a smaller increase in drag than it would in a normal vehicle. (this favors the window open theory) Then to compound this, they performed one test (where the AC won) and then claimed that it must be faulty because the unit measuring fuel would not handle the situation correctly.(it was a long flawed explanation) Then they created the IDEAL situation where AC COULD NOT win. They slowed the vehicles down even more, and did the tests again. Slowing down the vehicles causes the following effect 1. reduces drag (advantage open windows) 2. increases amount of time A.C. has to run (advantage open windows ) -also, they turned up the AC to FULL, they had to wear winter jackets it was so cold. (advantage open windows)

  235. Dumbing down of Discovery Channel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What do you think about the dumbing down of the Discovery Channel? Discovery's programming used to be packed with science and nature shows. These days, its packed with motorcycle handle-bar fabrication and hot-rod build-outs. Your show seems to be one of the few that actually has anything to do with science, in that you've used some basic physics on some of the shows.

    Please please please don't start building motorcycles on your show.

  236. Muppets by raygundan · · Score: 1

    That's why I'd like a scientist in the mix, too. Engineers for "how they could build the setup better," and scientists for "why this test doesn't prove what you might think." They need a muppets-style balcony seat with two grizzled old PhDs making snide comments about their experiments. They don't have to listen, or change what they're doing (what they do now makes great TV), but I would *love* for the viewers to be better informed.

    None of this passing off a single data point as a conclusive test for myths with dozens of variables. That should get catcalls from the balcony every time.

    They already try to emphasize the arguments the mythbusters have on the show-- this would just give them more material to work with.

  237. Network says "DON'T GO THERE!" by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is the one myth you would like to bust, think you could bust, but the network says "NO!" for whever reason (danger, money, etc)?

    1. Re:Network says "DON'T GO THERE!" by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      Somehow after watching the "rotting pig in a Corvette" episode, I don't think money would be an issue.

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  238. How about busting this myth? by Squant · · Score: 1

    Can you please bust or confirm the myth if its possible to breathe and survive in a diving suit just like in the abyss? The one filled with that pinkish liquid? That would be cool.

  239. Myth by trayl · · Score: 1


    Will you test if jet-fuel burning in air can melt/soften steel?

  240. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Note to Everyone:

    Please don't waste time with vacuous questions that have already been asked in other interviews. People hate "Where do you get your ideas?" and you are not the first person to think of that incredibly deep question. Here are two interviews, and ten seconds with Google can find you more.

    http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000408.php
    http://www.joe-mammy.com/pages/features/hyneman/hy neman-interview.htm

  241. Difficult Myth To Bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard that you can't piss and shit at the same time. Care to bust that myth guys?

    1. Re:Difficult Myth To Bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely a myth. I just busted it right in my work toilet just the other day!

  242. Will the new San Francisco gun laws change show? by Kodack · · Score: 5, Interesting

    San Francisco recently put a ban on hanguns in the city limit. People are not allowed to own, possess, manufacture or sell firearms within the city anymore. Several episodes involve busting firearms myths. How will this new law affect the show? Michael Scott Plano, TX

  243. Listening to Music stunts Creativity by tonygent · · Score: 1

    There is an old myth that while listening to music mundane tasks can be performed just fine, but tasks that require creative thinking become very difficult because the creative center of the brain is occupied by the music. I believe this myth may have originated in the book, Peopleware. In my experience, I have found this to not be true. But I'm curious, could the mythbusters prove whether listening to music actually hurts or helps creative problem solving skills?

  244. Gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please do NOT mod this down. It is a serious question.

    Are you two gay?

    1. Re:Gay by BenJeremy · · Score: 1

      Hah hah...

      I've read an interview of Adam Savage, and both are married, family guys, apparently.

      They actually get asked this quite a bit - given the location (Bay area), and their "look", it's an honest question.

  245. What is your criteria for by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    rejecting myths for testing?
    How many have you rejected so far (approximatley)
    What is the hardest myth you have in which to design a test for? Is testing design a criteria in rejecting myths?

    O.K. so this is more like a 4 in 1.... but...

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    How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
  246. Myth-ing Proof by caffeinebill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are there any myths you would love to test/bust/confirm but it is not possible to prove/disprove it? For example, have you pondered the myth that NASA filmed the landings on the moon in a studio?

  247. Why? by Explodo · · Score: 1

    How come you always assume that if you can't do it, nobody can?

  248. New Windows box really infects in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it true that if you connect a brand new Windows computer to the internet, it gets infected in about 10 minutes? What about a patched one? What if there's a hardware firewall? Software firewall? Etc, etc...

    Make the same tests with a Mac and a Linux box "just to compare". ;-)

  249. What's coming up? by brian6string · · Score: 1

    An obvious question that no one has asked yet: What myths are you testing in the next season?

  250. Seeing the Mythbusters in-person by kdmstanton · · Score: 1

    Adam and Jamie came to the University of Central Florida last Spring and answered a lot of these questions, talked about their pasts, how they got involved in the show. They also showed the blooper/gag reel from the (at the time) upcoming DVD set of season 1. And as a bonus, they brought the penny shooter and shot a member of the audience!

  251. Bust this myth... by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    Have you considered trying to bust the myth that geeks don't get laid?

    If no, is that because it is to dangerous or to expensive?

    (Heh, it IS a cable channel, after all).

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    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
    1. Re:Bust this myth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you quit posting on Slashdot, move out of mom's basement, and disprove the myth yourself

  252. Doubt it's something you can test on the show... by nekojin · · Score: 1

    But is it true that if you fall ill with, say, the common cold or flu, that going to a sauna or steambath and sweating a lot will help to clean out the sickness? I'm almost positive that it can't possibly be true, but my Sgt swears that it is.

  253. Why not? by Meadlin · · Score: 1

    I have noticed that on several myths, you have made an attempt at following the scientific method for busting/confirming the myth, but not on others, why is this? Why not hold to the same degree of validity on all myths? And I know that is technically two questions, but they are basically the same.... :) At any rate, the show is still cool...

  254. Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you guys think happened to Amelia Earhart?

  255. your show by cttforsale · · Score: 1

    your show seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?

  256. Worst Fallout by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Okay, there are a lot of people and companies who have invested heavily in the credibility of various myths and bogosities. Some of them are scammers, and some are true believers.

    What Busting has had the most dramatic fallout for companies and people who've relied on the Myth being true?

    And while we're out it, how many times have you been sued or threatened with lawsuits?

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  257. Previous interview by dimator · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's too bad this chat transcript was not linked in the story, because it covers a lot of the more common questions.

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    1. Re:Previous interview by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Good link. The editors should exclude any questions answered there from the list to be submitted.

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  258. Hawking My own Wares.. by caldroun · · Score: 1

    Disclaimer: I am talking about my own podcast here...

    I have a podcast called Technorama over at http://www.chuckchat.com/

    My co-host and I interviewed Adam Savage about a month ago. It was a really good interview.

    If you care to listen...It was in three parts.
    http://www.chuckchat.com/?p=118
    http://www.chuckchat.com/?p=119
    http://www.chuckchat.com/?p=122

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    "If you have done 6 impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways" -- hhgg
    1. Re:Hawking My own Wares.. by caldroun · · Score: 1

      Here is the Entire Interview for all that are interested.

      http://www.chuckchat.com/?page_id=129

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      "If you have done 6 impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways" -- hhgg
  259. Jamie Hyneman owns only one type outfit? by hyyx · · Score: 1

    Why does Jamie Hyneman own only one type of outfit?

    1. Re:Jamie Hyneman owns only one type outfit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it considered normal for a real geek ?
      I use allmost the same outfit: white shirt & black jeans.

  260. Asian Cock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it true that in Japan they sell the world's smallest condoms? Do Asians really have straight pubes?

  261. Most inappropriate . . . by geekwithsoul · · Score: 1

    What is the most inappropriate use of ballistics gel you've ever witnessed/participated in?

  262. Crash by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    There's an episode where myths about how to sit properly on an airplane during a crash were tested. At one point, they built a 'crash rig' where everybody piled on and... well... crashed. I remember Kari talking about promising her parents she wouldn't do anything dangerous. Well, that made me curious: Which episodes have gotten any of you into trouble with your family/loved ones?

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  263. The Amazing Meeting 4 / James Randi by RembrandtX · · Score: 1

    I noticed you guys are going to be speaking at 'The Amazing Meeting 4' this year.
    How are you connected to James Randi ? Penn & Teller have been very vocal about supporting him in past years, but this was the first inkling that I had that you fine folks were on the same bandwagon.

    [My personal suspicion is that this is more of an Adam spin, considering his card throwing, slight of hand antics on the show - which my whole household loves by the way.]

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  264. Is it true that bald men are more sexy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is an important question for many men out there and I suspect that the Mythbusters Team can source bald men for the experiments.

  265. Do you realize that you are inspiring a generation by MykePagan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...of budding scientists and engineers? Today's mainstream society treats technology as a black box, never to be opened or touched. Inquisitive kids need to be shown that they can take things apart, learn about them, and experiment with them. I don't buy into the complaint that Mythbusters lacks scientific rigor. Better to try things out in your back yard with only one or two data points than to accept things without thought.

    I watch the show with my 9-year-old daughter. The highest compliment I can pay is that the show makes her ask a continuous stream of questions about what you are doing.

  266. Energy drinks by TheGSRGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Red Bull, Monster, Rockstar, No Fear...there's tons of these so-called "energy drinks" on the market. But do they even have any tangible effects? What's really happening to me for $2.49? Is it just an overpriced can of soda?

    1. Re:Energy drinks by Maqueo · · Score: 1

      Try having 5 or 6 mixed with vodka. Definitly worth the $2.49 :)

    2. Re:Energy drinks by wipis · · Score: 1

      Now theres a myth I would like to see done. I personally drink a lot of this tuff sometimes and I know its mostly suger water but I have some chemistry and anatomy knowlegde and it seems like some of the stuff should work but I have no evidence. Oh a Bawls definatly does what it says b/c its just a ton of caffine and suger.

    3. Re:Energy drinks by ccbutler · · Score: 1

      c'mon... this is Myth Busters... not Consumer Whore Busters

    4. Re:Energy drinks by advb89 · · Score: 0

      If you can't notice any real effects, then why are you dropping $4.49 for them?!

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    5. Re:Energy drinks by Frogbert · · Score: 1

      Actually you are paying for a can full of sugar. Sure some of it is complex sugar but for the best bang for buck your better off eating some normal sugar. Its 100% fat free too.

    6. Re:Energy drinks by damsa · · Score: 1

      I guess you didn't see the episode dedicated to Pop Rocks.

  267. Unsung Heroes: Build Team by jpranevich · · Score: 1

    Recent episodes finally have all featured all *five* Mythbusters in the opening sequence. What does this mean for the series? Can we expect less of A&J now? Or does this mean that the "real" stars of the show can finally get some decent myths to bust? :)

    (More importantly: Does this signal a more stable roster of second-tier players? Or will Jamie decide he has better things to do than appear on television and blow up stuff? Is there anything better to do?)

  268. Most painful myth? by meldroc · · Score: 1

    I just saw the Seasickness cures episode. Obviously, that one was incredibly unpleasant for Adam and Grant. I also remember the Baghdad Battery episode where Kari wired up a replica of the Ark of the Covenant with an electric fence energizer. (OUCH!) What would you say was the absolute worst, most painful myth you've tested on the show?

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    1. Re:Most painful myth? by Rothron+the+Wise · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering how the Ark was wired. In a normal electric fence energizer one end is hooked to a fence and a the other to a grounding system which is placed in the ground. A person standing on the ground will close the circuit if he touches the fence.

      How painful this is is pretty proportional to how well connected you are to the ground. If you think an electric fence just delivers an annoying tickle, try touching it while barefoot.

      I wonder if Adam was tricked into touching the poles of the electric fence energizer directly closing the circuit across his heart which is what appeared to happen on the show. Seems dangerous to me.

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  269. Cheesy Backgroud Music by fussbudget · · Score: 1

    Who is responsible for the cheesy background music that gets mixed in during post-production and why can't they be used as a crash test dummy? The annoying music reduces the content of the program.

  270. I got one! by kurbchekt · · Score: 0

    Where do babies come from?

    Seriously though, could a stork deliver a baby and how'd that myth start? (-> cue Monty Python coconut/swallow references)

  271. Do cats always land on their feet...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Do cats always land on their feet? What if they are in a box that is spinning as it is thrown into the air?

  272. Have you ever considered a contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You often have contests over who can complete a myth in the best manner. How about having a contest that starts at the beginning of a season, present a Myth to the audience and allow them to submit ideas to bust it. Every show can have a review of the best or random entry received to date. For the final episode, the winner will take control of the build team to square off against Adam and Jamie to determine who has the best idea.

  273. Dangerous work by signingis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the look of things, your "arena" can be pretty dangerous. How close have you come to killing yourselves or someone else in one of your episodes?

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    1. Re:Dangerous work by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I personally think they most dangerous one they did so far was the tree trunk cannon. When they turned it into a pipe bomb, large heavy chunks of wood flew well past where they were standing. If luck would have had another course, someone could have caught a 100 pound chunk of wood to the head and that would have been that.

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  274. Mechanical vs Software by jj00 · · Score: 1

    I've worked in at a robotics company in the past. When I first came on, I they told me they were just starting to get into "this software thing". I quickly learned that most of the machines they had built in the past used mechanical means to control them. I noticed that most of the engineers that worked there didn't really grasp what I was doing on the software side and I had a hard time talking to them about the physical side.

    My best example would be when I wrote a program against some specs for controlling certain digital/analog controls, only to discover that they had completely hooked up the controls differently.

    My question is in a few parts:
    Have you had any software-controlled projects?
    Have you had any that you had previously done mechanically (and how did it go)?
    If possible, what hardware, operating system, programming language(s), etc did you use?

    Thanks!

  275. Re:Suggestion... by KinkoBlast · · Score: 1

    You meen CONFIRM the myth, right?

  276. Revisiting Previous Myths? by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

    Do you ever look back at your older episodes and wonder if a particular myth was busted mistakenly? For instance, a few weeks ago here at Slashdot we discussed the 'Archimedes Death Ray' myth. There were several of us including myself who thought the myth was plausible given a sighting method for the shields. One reader even quoted an RAF airman procedure for aiming a signal mirror at a passing plane. That seemed very much like the missing piece of the Death Ray puzzle.

    Do your producers give you the flexibility to revisit previous myths like these?

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    1. Re:Revisiting Previous Myths? by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

      I have to admit I'm upset my comment (parent) wasn't modded up. Is there a particular reason why my question is not appropriate or interesting?

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      The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky
  277. They didn't use straight-grained arrows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So, let me make sure I understand this: Even though it is well known that high quality wooden arrows were specifically selected for the straightest possible grain (just like pole-axe handles) the so-called "mythbusters" based their evaluation on the cheap-ass arrows that are sold nowadays to people who can't afford aluminum?

    Right. Well, I don't need to watch that show.

    1. Re:They didn't use straight-grained arrows? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      They actually were splitting wooden dowels like you'd get from the hardware store, in the later stages of the myth.

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  278. Rocket in the shop by discore · · Score: 1

    Who's brilliant idea was it to set off a rocket in the shop while testing the Confederate Rocket myth? The second I saw what you were planning to do I knew it wasn't going to end well. Are there any other really bad ideas that you've gone through with?

  279. stymied by PMuse · · Score: 1

    Has there ever been a myth you've tried to bust, but couldn't, even though you're sure it's false?

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  280. Hey guys, do you read slashdot? by Quai · · Score: 1

    Do you read slashdot, eh? :D

    (it news for nerds, and you guys definitely qualifies as nerds! (welcome to the club!))

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  281. Changes in billing and useage of Kari by Schnapple · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I noticed that in the more recent episodes instead of just Jamie and Adam in the "Who are the Mythbusters?" section of the opening credits, you also have Grant, Kari and Tory listed. It's still the two of you who get the iconic billing, but why the change? Are they more than just "Mythterns" now? (i.e., permanent cast members)

    Also my Wife noted "boy they don't really make any bones about using Kari for sex appeal" and not that I mind one bit but I did notice that even before changes in billing and the departure of other female Mythterns, Kari was pretty much like the third host of the show. Were I to guess I'd say her increased useage on the show was Discovery's idea (since the audience is probably mostly male) - is there any concern about using her too much?

    1. Re:Changes in billing and useage of Kari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With all the questions about Kari, I'm wondering where's the talk about Scottie?

      IMHO, this is the next great debate/division after "Ginger or Mary Ann"!

    2. Re:Changes in billing and useage of Kari by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Or "Troi or Yar?"

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    3. Re:Changes in billing and useage of Kari by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I think Scottie quit. I don't remember seeing her in any newer episodes. She did rock though. I admire any woman that can weld like that.

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  282. Abusing poor Buster by xenomouse · · Score: 1

    What myth doled out the worst punishment on Buster?

  283. Mod parent up. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

    That's some funny stuff.

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  284. Didn't Air by EBFoxbat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have you ever carried out an experiment with the intent of showing it on the show and then had it not air?

  285. Burning down the lab? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the recent episode where you tried to re-create the civil war missile, there was one sequence where you created a massive fireball in the lab, and nearly burned the place down, it would seem. Now, I'm no expert, but even before this happened, I was sitting there saying to myself "Why are they doing this indoors?!" So, why were you doing that indoors? Even if you weren't expecting that big of a result, shouldn't "safety first" be the policy when working with such materials?

    1. Re:Burning down the lab? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Can you really blow up a building with a sack of flour and two .22 bullets?

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      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  286. As a geek and foot fetishist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    may I beg you, never - ever - to use Adam's feet in your experiments ever again? Thank you.
    (why would you even consider not using Kari? Geesh.)

  287. Bust this myth! by lordofthechia · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is it true that a live kitten can balance a half ton slab of concrete on its head? Would you guys be willing to try this in the show?

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  288. 9/11 by 101percent · · Score: 1

    Is it possible that 9/11 was engineered and carried-out by the Bush administration?

  289. Fame, Fortune, and all that goes with it... by HalfOfOne · · Score: 1

    You guys are somewhat more famous than you used to be as fx wizards, and I'm curious:

    What's the coolest thing that's happened to you, that you can attribute to your fame with the show, since you've become more well-known? (ok, besides having hot Mythterns)

    What's the lamest thing?

  290. HAARP by kimvette · · Score: 1

    Hi Jamie, Adam, etc.

    I'd love to see the HAARP death ray and underground surveillance conspiracy theories/myths debunked once and for all.

    Thanks!

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    The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
  291. So come on fatso and just bust a myth by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1

    And what comes next, hey bust a myth So don't just stand there, bust a myth Now you know what to do g, bust a myth

  292. Re:Grow some balls...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought you were going away? Now, go! I'm sick of your whining about the mods. Get over it fuckwad!

  293. Too much for TV? by Schnapple · · Score: 1
    Have you ever had a myth or something you wanted to do, but the suits at the network said no? I know that you censored the materials for building the explosives in the Confederate Rocket myth but is there anything which you wanted to do but got cut off at the Discovery Channel level?

    Also on the Confederate Rocket myth, were the materials censored because of the danger in people trying them at home, or because of fear of running afoul of that current ban on publishing books on how to make explosives?

  294. Nuclear Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I used to work at a nuclear power station in the UK (Magnox).

    The DND (Delayed Neutron Detection) system was highly sensative to RF. Distant thunderstorms or on-site welding could set it off, and trip both reactors.

    Cell phones were banned on site for this reason. One day some moron was sitting in the canteen and fired up his cell phone. Reactor 2 tripped on DND.

  295. Original Nintendo Cartridge by Gargamell · · Score: 1



    I think there should be 2 categories of questions. One for simple questions that people would like to read, and the second for questions regarding myths. Examples follow:

    1. Can you guys illustrate why blowing into the back of old school nintendo cartridges almost always worked?

    2. Can you guys find data to support that myth that if you cross your eyes too much, they will stay that way?

    In addition to that, I was wondering how much of you the experiments come straight from the two of you? How often do you need to get an expert's help?

    Thanks! ~tim

  296. Electricity and water by agr8lemon · · Score: 1

    I once heard that water itself is non-conductive, it's the impurities in the water that makes it a conductor.Is this correct, and if so, if you removed the impurities would it be possible to submerge the parts of a pc under water to have a truly water cooled system? -Thanks! Monty Peterson

  297. To expand on that question... by Pollux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember the episode where you were trying to make the Intrepid taxi tip over using a jet engine, but were unable to use a commercial 737 jet due to "safety concerns" with your insurance company.

    What is going on behind the scenes that we don't see on camera to keep all your stunts and myth busting as safe as possible? Also, after seeing you turn a hydrolic lift into a catapult (hoisted up on empty shipping cargo crates, no less), how can a commercial 737 jet be considered unsafe?

    1. Re:To expand on that question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was unsafe _to the airplane_. Sure, the car is a write-off, and people can be kept away, but break a multi-million dollar jet and someone's going to be upset.

    2. Re:To expand on that question... by Phanatic1a · · Score: 1

      It was safety concerns to the *airline's* insurance company.

      It was an operating airport. Using a parked jet to try to blow a car over is a great way to risk FOD to other aircraft landing or taking off from that airport.

    3. Re:To expand on that question... by g_attrill · · Score: 1

      They did a similar test with on "BBC Top Gear" with a 747 (owned by Virgin Atlantic):

      http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/thumbnails.php?album =196

    4. Re:To expand on that question... by joecr · · Score: 1

      Well I found some old footage from 1993 United airlines, doing the same idea as the Myth Busters only they used the cheaper idea of just tow the car instead of the remote control. This makes me wonder why they could do it, but the Myth Busters weren't allowed to do it.

      http://www.geocities.com.nyud.net:8090/v_2joecr/je tblast.wmv (WMV 477,179 bytes) already on cache as this is my free site which would never survive a second of /. hitting it.

      I have no idea as to where I got it. I think it maight have been from http://www.spikedhumor.com/ but I could be wrong.

    5. Re:To expand on that question... by BoogieChile · · Score: 1

      It looks like the video is a UA safety video, shown to all the new staff to get the message across "stay away from the rear of the plane". I guess when the airline's own staff come to management with a proposal for this demonstration, saying that it's for a safety video for staff to keep down the workplace injury levels, they would have felt more comfortable approving the request.

      Also, the way the demo was run, when the car did get blown away, it didn't travel across any sensitive parts of the airport - just across a service road and then out into the water. I remember seeing this episode on the Mythbusters show - the airport they used appeared to be landlocked, so setting up the test this way wasn't possible for them.

      What I want to know is, have the Mythbusters seen this clip?

  298. Bittorrent by boatboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First make sure the lawyers aren't around, then answer this one: Your show is available on bittorrent networks to download and watch when/where it's more convenient. Some users, however, could download the show without paying for it via cable service. How do you personally feel about this? (Cheated\Angry\Flattered\What's A Bittorrent?)

    1. Re:Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Cheated|Angry|Flattered|What's A Bittorrent|CowboyNeal?)

    2. Re:Bittorrent by Wiseazz · · Score: 1

      How do you personally feel about this? (Cheated\Angry\Flattered\What's A Bittorrent?)

      Hey... Where's the CoyboyNeal option?

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  299. Migratory Coconuts by dj245 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've always wondered if Coconuts really migrate or if a swallow could carry one. Maybe if two of them carried it on a sort of line...

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    1. Re:Migratory Coconuts by DarKry · · Score: 1

      What.. you mean held under the doesal guidance feathers?

    2. Re:Migratory Coconuts by ericdano · · Score: 1
      That has been answered. Here is the answer.


      A better question would be is Kari single, and if she is, can I meet her? I live in the Bay Area and think she's the cutiest thing....

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      I moderate therefore I rule!
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    3. Re:Migratory Coconuts by Disco+Stu · · Score: 1

      An African or European swallow?

    4. Re:Migratory Coconuts by classical+piano · · Score: 1

      Just wondering, what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow, both african and european. On the note of Mythbusters however, I remember the trombone-mute firecracker myth (trombonist blew his mute out with a firecracker during the 1812) and how it was "busted". The thing is, the mythbusters failed to take into account the pressure buildup of air entering the trombone through the mouthpiece. We know the man in the myth was playing his muted trombone because they state that he burned his lips. They need to retest with air blowing in to see if it makes a difference.

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      Those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do.
  300. Confederate Rocket Myth Question by Necron69 · · Score: 1

    This one is easy.

    What on Earth possessed you to try testing a rocket motor indoors? I seriously thought you guys were going to burn down the building on that one. :)

    Keep up the excellent work. Your show rocks!

    - Necron69

    1. Re:Confederate Rocket Myth Question by slasher999 · · Score: 1

      Good question. Another about the same show might be how did you decide to work with something as potentially dangerous as gun cotton on the show? It seems that might have been one substance best left forgotten. Even though the show was heavily (self) censored, the remaining info is widely available on the Internet. I'm not knocking the show, I enjoyed it. I simply thought this was a potentially highly controversial substance to be manufacturing on TV.

  301. Gas Station Cell Call by MERVERNATOR · · Score: 1

    Usually prompted by e-mails, I know youve revisited myths in the past, which I think included the cell phone gas station explosion. I dont recall any of the revisiting reasons for this one actually pertaining to what I think is the true danger spot of this situation, which is vibrate mode. Since vibrate is nothing more than a small motor with an offset weight on it, and motors work by magnets and brushes which often make sparks, I think its quite possible this myths outcome could happen. Did you receive any e-mails with this theroy, and if so is it possible to revisit the myth a third time? seeing as theres a potential explosion, Id think youd jump at the chance. - love the show, I hope its on for a long time. thanks for all the quality entertainment.

  302. Safety by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Why don't you ever wear safety glasses when using power tools or working with volatile chemicals?

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  303. Have you ever believed a myth by del_ctrl_alt · · Score: 1

    Have either of you ever believed a myth to be true at anytime in your life? And how did you find out it wasn't true and how did that make you feel?

  304. Oh, so THAT'S the secret? by volpone · · Score: 1
    I asked this very question before you did. The only difference is that I did not WRITE MY SUBJECT LINE IN ALL CAPS. Now I know the secret to having my question modded up. Thanks for illustrating that.

    Volpone

    1. Re:Oh, so THAT'S the secret? by RUFFyamahaRYDER · · Score: 1

      No, yours was a little different.

      What was your favorite myth that you decided NOT to take on for some reason? Why did you reject it?

      Mine is asking which were too dangerous to pull off.

      I agree that the questions are similar, but people like danger so this is probably why mine got modded up.

  305. The myth we'll never see by thewiz · · Score: 1

    Is there a myth that you absolutely, positively, unequivocally will NOT do? If so, what is that myth?

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    1. Re:The myth we'll never see by yattaran · · Score: 1

      If you'd followed the show you'd know they wouldn't put this pudle dog in the microwave. I hope no one would be that cruel.

  306. Getting slammed by your viewers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems as the show got more popular you have started to address the people who slam your methods. You can even see in these questions where viewers have complaints about certain episodes. How much feedback do you get per episode now? Does any particular episode stand out as the most slammed? Have you ever done a scientific survey to find out how many of these people are /.ers?

  307. Free (zero) Energy is not a myth !! by ttsoares · · Score: 1

    I have been doing research about the so called Free Energy phenomena about one year and am convinced that there is something there...

    They had showed something about at The Mythbusters some time ago, but that was absurd !

    I am not posing a questions here, I am posing a challenge:

    Doing some Gloogle, por instance, is very easy to find plans to build a car that uses water as a fuel (cold hydrolyze).

    The challenge is to get serious about zero point energy :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effectCasimir _effect
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energyDark_energ y
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_pointZero_point

    Or... is the regular energy company's lobby too strong ?

  308. Random Myth Busting by unfitwellhappy · · Score: 1

    Have either of you ever tried to Myth Bust while not on camera? Be it under the influence of Alcohol or not.

  309. How about modern myths? by WheelDweller · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of myths being presented by the media during this culture war. While millions mindlessly watch TV and believe what it says, it's still not true.

    For example:

    "Everyone" knows that no WMDs were found in Iraq, yet the New York Times has an article written May 22, 2004 claiming how local Iraqis are in danger because George Bush wants to remove the 500T of yellowcake (raw) uranium and the 1.77T of enriched uranium by driving it out through the city streets.

    "Everyone" knows that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but we attacked them anyway. Even though they house Abu-Abas, Abu-Nidal, and two other very-highly-prized terrorists that a lot of nations want to kill. And there was a 727 found there for training terrorists. And there was a $20,000 "bounty" Saddam was paying to any family who had a homocide bomber blow themselves up.

    "Everyone" knows that 2,000 deaths in a war with tanks is an absurd, out-of-control quagmire. Except the DoD has posted that the number of militarys deaths each year when we stay home is 1,200. Except that in Vietnam (a real quagmire) we used to see 600 coffins a *week*.

    Yeah, I know it's all political, but the evidence is clear; it's where one can look it up, open to anyone, they just won't stop listening to CNN.

    Go to Iraq with a translator, see the officials, then look around. Compare what the officials say to what the locals say. Then maybe we can put these issues to bed and get other things done for a change.

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    --- For a good time mail uce@ftc.gov
  310. OT: It's Entertainment Folks by CFTM · · Score: 1

    This is incredibly off topic and I am very aware of that so mod as you please but it's entertainment not real science! Stop being so nit-picky...I know many of us who visit this site are immersed in the scientific method but the purpose of this show is not to rewrite scientific theories; it's to blow some shit up and entertain people for an hour while occasionally teaching you something.

    The number of shows that discovery has that are fun and somewhat informational but stray from strict scientific method is astronomical; stop the grandstanding and enjoy the show folks ;)

  311. Is it true that life evolved as a result of... by Darius+Jedburgh · · Score: 1

    ...random variations in organic sludge and that humans are the descendants of monkeys or is that just a myth spread by my gay socialist drug-abusing science teacher who my Sunday school teacher (the best in Kansas!) says is the spawn of Satan and murders little children?

  312. Misspent Youth? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    Were you the sort of eleven-year-olds who spent their time trying to make various things in the neighborhood go BOOM? Or, did you come by this later in life?

    --
    Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
  313. Kari by NardofDoom · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Dear Savage and Teh Hyneman:

    Are you upset that your prominence in the show went downhill after you brought Kari on board? Cause you know most geeks are tuning in to see the hot redhead, not you two goofs.

    Sincerely,
    NardofDoom

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    You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
  314. (meta-topic) Ask category by HunterZ · · Score: 1

    To the editors: It would be cool if there were an Ask category that these "Ask so-and-so" articles could belong to, as they're kind of a feature of Slashdot (especially lately).

    --
    Arguing about vi versus Emacs is like arguing whether it's better to make fire by rubbing sticks or banging rocks.
  315. Drawing the line by gmuslera · · Score: 1
    Where you draw the line between deciding when a myth worths be tested or not? Some (i.e. the elevator) the real busting of the myth was more out-of-testing math (in that case, substracting to the speed you should be falling at the speed you can jump up) than doing the (noisy/expensive/destructive) test. When you decide than is better show graphically something than using simple er... "common sense"? (yes, i know the show have nothing to do with common sense).

    In the same topic, have you found a myth that can't be graphically dispelled, that must be done with math/common sense, and worths putting it in the show because is a common misconcept?

    And what about myths that can be acted, but in a way or another can't be showed on tv? Don't have to go to i.e. sex myths, maybe even the "all cats land on their feet" myth could be dangerous to show if some potential damage is showed on camera (i know, is a weak example, but shows the idea)

  316. Do you read... by david.given · · Score: 1
  317. the myth we all want busted by tomcres · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can you guys like try to bust the myth that you can't read Slashdot and get laid?

  318. Windows vs Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the Windows operating system really superior to Linux in speed and reliability as Microsoft contends with their studies?

  319. How many times... by jav1231 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm curious as to how many "You busted this myth, but my cousin's best friend's brother actually had that happen to him!" responses you get.

    1. Re:How many times... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Racism exists primarily in the minds of the left to give them relevence. The rest of us just get along.

      Spoken like someone who has not gone to college in a small town in Iowa and been called--to his face--a stupid nigger. Was the guy who did that to me "just getting along"? Did he exist primarily in my mind?

    2. Re:How many times... by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Primarily=/entirely.

    3. Re:How many times... by wipis · · Score: 1

      When I saw the tailgate up or down myth I immediatly thought of my uncle who had one of those mesh tailgated that allow air to move but keep your stuff in the back. Maybe it worked for him or maybe it was just good advertising.

    4. Re:How many times... by BlueHands · · Score: 1

      to which his response should have been:

      "Equality exists primarily in the mind of those who have never had to deal with rasism."

      Honestly, being a white male in the bay area I almost never see any rasism first hand - too many races. However, how could someone look at the prison population, see that in some state blacks make up 50% of the inmates but only 5% of the general population and then say that racism is a partisan issue?

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      I mod everyone down who says "I'll get modded down for this." I hate to disappoint.
    5. Re:How many times... by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Easily. Using a little intelligence as opposed to buying into the crap that comes from the media. I'm not denying racism exists. I'm just tired of people using it as an excuse for anything remotely perceived to be unequal. Go to France, yeah the great liberal Eurotopia that the left in this country beg us to mimic. Racism against blacks is astronimically worse than it is here yet it's America that is racist, right? Oh! And southerners are the worse, right? Noticed he said he was in Iowa! Racism in the U.S., while not completely elliminated, is kept alive by the left, period They need it. MOST people in this country just get along. You don't have to believe it but understand it's not dependent upon your belief.

  320. Since its slashdot by del_ctrl_alt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what kind of technology are you both into and using. (eg. PC or Mac? Windows or Linux? Explorer or Firefox?) and do you use it for any aspect of the show.

  321. Pickup truck tailgate drag by Secrity · · Score: 1

    Mythbusters recently busted the myth about a pickup truck getting better gas milage if the tailgate is down. The show also showed the aerodynamics of a pickup bed with and without the tailgate open. What happens to the aerodynamics (and gas mileage) if a pickup toolbox is installed across the front of the bed?

  322. Reading in bed == bad eyesight? by justanyone · · Score: 1

    I'm wondering... If you read in bed at night with very low light or with a dim flashlight, will your eyes go bad? Does your eyesight get worse if you do this? Is this an old wives' tale or is it true?

    1. Re:Reading in bed == bad eyesight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My eyedoc told me this:

      reading in low light causes your eyes to strain. It is similar to trying to read blurry words. Or to stare for a long time at something too far away or small. eye strain can cause eye fatigue. This can cause some short term blurring of the vision but will not cause vision loss. Nor will sitting too close to the tv:

      http://www.webmd.com/content/article/64/72257.htm

  323. Love the show but I have a similar job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In reference to the "coolest job ever" comments. I design targets for the US army for the sole purpose of having them blown to bits with the Army's latest weapons. Soooooo.... designing full scale remote control tanks for the sole purpose of destructive testing is a good gig too.

    (no $hit, its really my job, I get paid for this)

  324. I've busted the mythbusters! Splitting arrows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is bull.

    I used to compete in archery tournaments; firing a traditional bow (longbow or recurve) without sights requires much, much practise.

    Since it takes so much time to walk back to the target for arrow recovery, I would quiver 30 arrows and shoot at the bottom of a plastic dixie cup taped to a burlap sack full of cotton batting.

    I *HATE* splitting arrows, as it takes time to make them.

    I, personally, have done this before many times; I have also achieved a "perfect split" a couple of times, but as I said it isn't a good thing.

    The mythbusters show sometimes falls far short due to underestimation and lack of repetition. How can it be scientific with so little verification?

    Who busts the mythbusters?

    Whatever...

  325. Combining a couple questions makes me ask this: by spotmonk · · Score: 1

    Some things obviously can't be used for some reason or another, and your budget can't be limitless. What myth has had the most money spent on it, but never found it's way into the show? And did you support the decision?

  326. Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do either Jamie or Adam have a preference of using Linux over other OS's?

    1. Re:Linux by yattaran · · Score: 1

      Adam has actually installed Windows on computers in the myth's involving computers. I can't recall ever seeing Jamie near a computer.

  327. Besides the airplane chute episode... by jgrana · · Score: 1

    So, is there anything else you guys have thrown Buster at and then decided, "Hey, that looked like fun, I want to try that?"

  328. Re: So sick of her... by bchernicoff · · Score: 1

    Yeah, isn't it great!?

  329. Who came up with mythbusters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who came up with the MythBusters concept? How did you go about getting the Discovery channel to back your concept? (However it happened - thanks - it is my favorite show)

  330. Fire by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    Dear Adam,

    When you tried, and failed, to set a ship on fire with a hastily constructed fresnel mirror array, and then also failed to set the "ship" on fire by dousing it in gasoline and setting an open flame to it. Did it not occur to you that if it won't burn in those conditions, the replica ship is "busted", not the "myth"?

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    You can't take the sky from me...

  331. Computer Heating Cheaper? by LScott53 · · Score: 1

    My computers generate heat. It is cold outside. Is is cheaper to turn them off when not in use and let the gas furnace make heat?

    1. Re:Computer Heating Cheaper? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      This isn't a mythbuster question, it's an "Ask mr. science" one. An electric heater is essentially 100% efficient, so do the math vs. cost of gas.

      --

      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
  332. About the 'science' used in the show by Kickassthegreat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have heard several times of supposed myths which were 'Busted' on your show, only to be refuted by scientists, educators, government officials, etc.

    A particular incident of this which comes to mind was the 'myth' of 'Urinating on the Third Rail', which had been 'Busted' on the show, but which was later refuted by officials from a large city (I believe it was New York) who stated that several people each year are electrocuted by contact with the third rail in their subways, and felt the show had misportrayed the safety hazards of contact with a third rail.

    What efforts do you take to ensure that the science of the tests you are performing is valid? Do you have any sort of outside independant review (similar to a scientific peer review process), to ensure that you are not accidentally miseducating the public (either about potential real dangers, or simply by teaching bad science)?

    1. Re:About the 'science' used in the show by DennisInDallas · · Score: 1

      to be fair, were these people electrocuted due soley to the contact of the urine with the third rail or was there incidental contact? Say for example, did they drag their tally whacker across the hot metal or did they just stand too close.

      And how much sodium is in these people's diet?

      And what about peeing on an electric fence, does the higher voltage and lower current matter?

      Is that episode on OnDemand yet?

    2. Re:About the 'science' used in the show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a related note, I'm curious as to your take on "Brainiac". Personally its frustrating to see a show describe what it does "science" when it completely lacks any scientific rigeur. It also anoys me that the show seems to be much more popular here in Australia, probably because in includes a bit of T&A and caters to peoples limited attention spans.

    3. Re:About the 'science' used in the show by Alomex · · Score: 1

      Personally its frustrating to see a show describe what it does "science" when it completely lacks any scientific rigeur.

      You are wrong about that. It does not "completely lack any scientific rigeur". They repeat their tests under various assumptions... in fact I would call what they do fairly good amateur science....

  333. Action Movie Ammunition by CaroKann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have always wondered, if a real life person were to engage in a firefight like they do in a typical action movie, how much ammunition would that person have to carry?

    1. Re:Action Movie Ammunition by Compulsion · · Score: 1

      Not exactly what you're looking for, but paintball might be a good substitute.

      In a single 15 minute round of paintball, a tournament player can fire in excess of 1000 paintballs. Some players go on with 1600+ rounds. (10 pods of ~150 rounds each + a hopper of 120-150)

      These things can fire at rates in excess of 20 balls a second. To compare a M16 usually fires 10 times a second at full auto.

      --Compulsion

  334. Just saying those guys rock by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    As hard as I can to think of a myth, I can't. I'm just saying that those guys rock. One time I shot an arrow out of the air with a bb gun. It was pretty cool, it dropped almost straight down when I hit it too. I wasn't trying it though, just dumb luck.

    It must be hard coming up with ideas of myths to bust. I think you guys should regularly stop on Slashdot, maybe once every 3 months, and see what ideas we got. I can't think about this flatfooted, but if I had 3-6 months to prepare, I could probably have 1 or 2 good ones for you guys.

    Mod me up if you want MythBusters to check Slashdot every 6 months or so :)

  335. Polar bears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it true there are polar bears in Finland? ;)

  336. Re:Critique (That's what "Revisited" is about) by Goldenhawk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Every so often they do a "Myths Revisited" episode, where they take into account user feedback about this very issue. In this case, they did determine that they had over-generalized, and in fact the data proved that at a certain speed it becomes more efficient to use AC. So this question is sort of answered already.

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  337. Snopes? by tommertron · · Score: 1

    Do you guys ever refer to snopes.com for background information on myths/rumours? What about wikipedia.org?

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  338. A virus *CAN* destroy a monitor, sort of. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to have an old 16-color EGA monitor on my old IBM 8088 (with co-processor!)

    When said monitor tried to display VGA graphics, a fuse would burn and the monitor would cease function.

    Any virus with a payload of displaying a VGA graphic would indeed "destroy" that monitor... at least as far as the end user was concerned.

    It also had a cool button for green monochrome mode. I miss that monitor...

    If you want to blow up a modern one, hook wall current into your hd-15 jack.

  339. Question for Adam by BigZaphod · · Score: 1

    A few months ago I had a strange nightmare where you (Adam) were actually in my dream and MythBusters had been canceled (see, told you it was a nightmare!) due to liability concerns. You were feeling pretty upset about it (and Jaime was wondering what to do with the old dedicated MythBusters satellite that was still in orbit) and we were driving somewhere out in the country just to chill out. Suddenly we ran across a haunted house complete with ghosts and ghouls and steps that went nowhere. Don't worry, though, we managed to solve the mystery of the haunted house and excise the demons. Everyone got out okay. My question is: Have you ever had a dream about me?

  340. Walk on Water? by Stiranthony · · Score: 1

    Could Jesus really have walked on water? If so - prove it!

  341. Fooling Police Radar by KC7GR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Considering that part of my job is repairing and certifying police radar and LIDAR units, I have to ask...

    When you did the episode where you were debunking the myth that hanging a CD or something similar from the rear-view mirror would confuse SMDs (Speed Measuring Devices): Did you ever consider (or try) taking the microwave source/horn assembly from a junked radar unit, and mounting it in the car so it was facing forward (through the windshield) and powered up?

    Or, alternatively, how about having someone in the passenger seat operating an identical radar unit to the one being used by whoever's measuring the vehicle speed?

    With that said, let me add that neither technique would be very effective (if at all) in actually fooling radar units (the receiving unit would probably just interpret the approaching signal as a really strong return echo), but I would like to see you repeat the experiment under such conditions. I'd be curious to know how the SMD reacts.

    Thanks much.

    --

    Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

    Blue Feather Technologies

    1. Re:Fooling Police Radar by Loether · · Score: 1

      From what I remember about that episode. They were only testing "legal" ways to fool Police Radar. Their are several illegal methods for fooling/jamming certain types of police radar.

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    2. Re:Fooling Police Radar by KC7GR · · Score: 1

      True, perhaps, but I would add that attempting to do so in any case is pretty pointless.

      For starters, the RF-based units all have a little indicator labeled 'RFI,' which is driven by a built-in interference detector. If a strong RF field is detected nearby, outside of that specifically produced by the SMD, the indicator will light and tip off the operator that something is definitely suspicious with the target in question.

      Where the LIDAR units (the IR laser-based ones) are concerned, they lock on so quickly that by the time the target's detector (if any) is tripped, the speed has already been acquired.

      I'd still like to see them re-try the experiment. Just to see what would happen.

      Keep the peace(es).

      --

      Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

      Blue Feather Technologies

    3. Re:Fooling Police Radar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I coudn't believe they didnt even test the Blinder Laser Jammer (which is legal to own and operare in most states) or the inferior Phazer!

  342. Batteries by Council · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What battery has the most energy in it? (AA, AAA)

    It varies with discharge rates, of course, but you can do a bunch of very public tests in different applications and come up with some total energy numbers.

    Every time I see that ad that says "if you think all batteries are the same, consider this:" I always get excited, thinking they're actually gonna show me some, however biased, numbers. But they just say "famous person x trusts these batteries." It seems that if there's really a difference between duracel and energizer and the off-brands, whoever has more energy would quantify and advertise it. But they don't think it's a good idea, for whatever reason.

    Wanna do it for them?

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    xkcd.com - a webcomic of mathematics, love, and language.
    1. Re:Batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i saw something about that here, comparing duracell and energizer. but what i really want to know is how do those store-brand batteries compare? they're like half the price, and i wish i knew if there was much of a power tradeoff.

    2. Re:Batteries by member57 · · Score: 0

      And how about storage of batteries, I have always heard of people putting them in refrigerators to keep the "fresh" so to speak.

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    3. Re:Batteries by Timothy+Chu · · Score: 1

      I think I saw something in Consumer Reports about this many years ago (yes, the brand name brands are better, but generally are not worth the difference in price), but comparing brands really isn't what MythBusters is about. Also, it depends on your application--my tv remotes will pull power out of batteries that are useless anywhere else.

  343. Legal Trouble? by bafarmer · · Score: 1

    You guys do some pretty outrageous stuff on your show. What kind of legal clearance do you have to get to pull off your experiments without ending up in jail? For example, the show where you raced a toy car against a sports car looked like it required shutting down a major stretch of road. Is it hard to get support from the local authorities in the name of mythbusting? Have you ever gotten in any trouble with the law for your experiments?

    PS - The Gigadrome Challenge at VMworld was a lot of fun.

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    I am Jack's sig. I reduce Jack's karma.
  344. UFO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UFO.. myth or truth?

    1. Re:UFO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's easy - TRUE.

      A UFO = Unidentified Flying Object.

      The real question is: Are they terrestrial or extraterrestrial?

  345. Science Education? by radl33t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think your show offers excellent scientific exposure to lay people. Unfortunately, this seems lost on reflection. Do you think your show would better promote an interest in science if it was an explicit goal and component of discussion?

    1. Re:Science Education? by narcc · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up!

      The science part of MythBusters seems to be lacking (considerably) In a show the other day, in fact, there were explicit science warnings when the characters intended to discuss something technical. Why does MythBusters shy away from science?

  346. Insect-related Myths by sweinlord · · Score: 1

    1) Can you keep flies away by hanging up clear plastic bags of water? Supposedly, from what I hear the flies will see their magnified reflection in the bags of water and be scared off. I've seen this used around little mom & pop restaraunts where the owner's swear by it. IMHO, I just don't think it would work. 2) Can DEET mosiqutoe repellent melt plastic or foam cups? I've run into one occasion where a red plastic cup rubbed red paint onto to me -- I'm guessing because of the 100% DEET I was wearing. I've heard that DEET is pretty bad stuff but if it melts stuff I don't know if I want to be wearing it... Can you also test natural mosiqutoe repellents (catnip, etc) and electronic repellents? 4) Can cockroaches or other bugs get caught in a person's ear canal? Supposedly it's because they can't crawl backwards.

    1. Re:Insect-related Myths by bunco · · Score: 1

      100% DEET is not terribly effective as doesn't "adhere" to skin very well.

      Additionally, are you sure the stuff you're using isn't comprised of a "100% DEET formula"? I've seen several whose active ingredients are soley DEET. Therefore the portion of the repellant which actually does the work is 100% DEET. Scam. Check the bottle and see if there's any alcohol present (if they list ingredients at all).

    2. Re:Insect-related Myths by sweinlord · · Score: 1

      It was a tiny 1 oz spray bottle of Deep Woods Off for Sportsmen that said 100% DEET. I don't know if it said "formula" or not, though. This stuff looked and felt greasy.

  347. Jamie's moustache by hedleyroos · · Score: 1

    Is it alive?

    But a bit more seriously: when Bob Marley died did they really discover new species of insect in his hair? Can insects actually live in a moustache?

    1. Re:Jamie's Moustache by hensons · · Score: 1

      Shut up, Adam!

  348. What the Hell happened to the hottie, scotty? by budhaboy · · Score: 1

    And another thing... Why do you let those idiots the build crew touch anything?

    1. Re:What the Hell happened to the hottie, scotty? by hensons · · Score: 1

      Hey, I happen to like watching Kari's G-string thong and Scotty's welding techniques. I think they should have some sort of "thigh high and garter belt myth" episode. Just keep Grant and Tory at home for that one.

    2. Re:What the Hell happened to the hottie, scotty? by budhaboy · · Score: 1

      I donno... Kari just seems so... perky in comparison so scotty. all that smiling... I mean what the hell is up with that?

  349. Debunk the myth: Windows is more secure than Linux by gadgetman · · Score: 1

    Should be pretty easy.

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    Artifical Intelligience is no match for natural stupidity.
  350. how about by glsunder · · Score: 1

    how about doing an episode like this:

    We're not in Kansas anymore: busting the creation myth.

  351. Revisits by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

    They do revisit myths from time to time if they're not satisfied that the myth has been busted.
    -russ

    --
    Don't piss off The Angry Economist
  352. Busting the myth of the "trained scientist"? by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

    How about busting the myth that employing a trained scientist will help you with the science in your show? This seems to be a recurring theme in the questions here. I guess these guys forget that on the show you often do interview experts in the field for the myth you're busting. And that a "scientist" can't be an expert in fluid mechanics, electronics, radio waves, and vaccume cleaners all at the same time.

    [My applogies for the vaccume cleaner comment....]

  353. Time constraints by Fractl · · Score: 1

    Your show seems to be taped on a very strict (sometimes inhibiting) schedule. How long do you have to shoot an episode, and how much flexibility do you have in deciding which projects deserve more time?

  354. Marijuana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Marijuana really dangerous?

  355. G-Spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is there such a thing, and where can I find it?

    1. Re:G-Spot by hensons · · Score: 1

      Right next to the female orgasm, the chupacabra, bigfoot, and Kari's fetish for me!

  356. Another computer myth by clifted · · Score: 1

    The Financial Times recently , Nov. 9th, ran a digital business issue. Several articles dealt with security issues. One of them title "Our security is letting us down" mentioned that Many people worry about credit card theft conducted by eavesdropping on internet traffic, but no one at Scotland Yard, the FBI, visa or mastercard is aware of a single case of such theft in the history of the internet Scotland yard, fbi, visa, mastercard...Shouldn't the myth busters be in there somewhere. And here I thought the Financial Times was a quality publication.

  357. car question by smithcl8 · · Score: 0

    I've seen you test the theory that running your car's air conditioning reduces your gas mileage, but here's a better one: is it necessarily true that you should change your oil "every 3 months or 3000 miles"?

    I believe that, while changing it every 3000 miles is definitely a safe thing to do, it is overkill. My Honda's manual, for instance, states that I should only perform the maintenance (oil changes included), every 10000 miles. Over the life of the vehicle (say, 150000 miles,) that's the difference of 35 oil changes.

  358. Re:corporate question by Guildencrantz · · Score: 1

    While this isn't a question for MythBusters, I'd love to see an episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit! on the subject.

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    Penguin Trivia #46: Animals who are not penguins can only wish they were. -- Chicago Reader 10/15/82
  359. JFK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hola amigos de Mythbusters. All the way from Mexico I have this myth for you, strange that a mexican came up with it, really.

    JFK
    Was there ever a second shooter?
    Think you can prove it? You have already been helped the FBI in other occasions, but this might be a big breaktrhough, won't you agree?

    Thanks for your time, Gustavo Ibarguengoytia AKA Dtortot

  360. Myth or Fact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please clear this up... Does Microsoft really have a lower TCO than Linux?

  361. Keeping them coming by crowemojo · · Score: 1

    It seems like your show is contingent on a specific kind of myth; things that can be recreated in a (somewhat) controlled environment. Certain cultural myths and origin stories are right out, for example, because they don't lend themselves to much other then diligent research. As you continue to produce the shows, how do you find more myths that are suitable to your format? Do you feel the strain of "been there, done that" yet?

  362. Geek rock stars? by sarastro_us · · Score: 1

    Considering all the posts which contain something to the effect of "Kari is hot", Id be curious how she (and Jamie and Adam) feel about the iconic stature they have attained in the geek community. I know quite a few geek girls who lust after the guys, too ;-)

  363. The vanishing hitchhiker phenomenon by Wingfat · · Score: 1

    The vanishing hitchhiker (or phantom hitchhiker) is a reported phenomenon in which people travelling by vehicle meet with or are accompanied by a hitchhiker who subsequently vanishes without explanation, often from a moving vehicle. Vanishing hitchhikers have been reported for centuries and the story is found across the world, in many variants. A version occurs in the Christian Bible, Acts 8:26-39, which was written in perhaps AD 80, certainly no later than the 2nd century AD (references).

    1. Re:The vanishing hitchhiker phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that it was mentioned in the Bible already implies it's a total myth.

    2. Re:The vanishing hitchhiker phenomenon by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      well not all myths have been busted that came from the bible. Mr wizard years ago proved the sea parting tech that whats his name did. i dont belive in the bible myself but there is a lot of myths in there then need to be busted so people can really see whats up and then make up their minds from a sciece stand point.

  364. Question by vthokiestm · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is it true that in Soviet Russia, Myths test the MythBusters?

  365. Music Myths by ericdano · · Score: 1
    Can we revisit the Trombone myth again. I believe you guys should have sealed the mouthpiece area to get the slide to come off.

    And while you are at it, can you put down a couple of other myths such as

    • What is the difference between a Violin and a Viola? A Viola burns longer (I can see Adam's glee already in this one)
    • How do you get two oboe players to play in tune? Shoot one of them. (Again, I see the glee in Adam rising)
    • Can playing a piccolo cause hearing loss? (I believe not, as I play piccolo).

    Oh, and I love Kari!

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    It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
    I moderate therefore I rule!
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    1. Re:Music Myths by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      I play Trombone my self and also thought they should re-vist this one and try a few different angles. Like useing a dubble F-key Trigger trombone to get the required force needed. I have my self while marching in the hot sun of Santa Cruz blew off my slide becasue my fingers were a little slippery from putting the t-bone wax on and then add a little sweat and bang it slips out of my fingers and i am hitting a high B flat in first postion and it flew right off to be steped on by the drummers.

    2. Re:Music Myths by ericdano · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I think if they had some "lips" to the mouthpiece, and had a properly greased slide and stuff, it would fly right off......

      Now will the bell do what it is supposed to do? Who knows, but Adam will have fun blowing stuff up.

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      I moderate therefore I rule!
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  366. Real Science by Faith_Healer · · Score: 1

    Why is it that you never not take a math, simulation, statistics method to busting myths. I would love it if before the myth you explained the real physics/chemistry/thermodynamics/electrical/etc. principles and show the math behind what you are doing. This seems like it would allow one to have real control and dynamic varibles and then you could use the simulations to see how well your experment fit the hypothesis. The scientific method is a great proven way to do things and you guys are some of the most clever I have seen. Is it the television, market, that is driving this type of expermenting? If it is the market do you think you could use your aclaim to help people get interested in real science, and further do you see your show a being a gateway for young viewers to get into science and engeneering circulums.

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    Faith_Healer -- The antethsis to almost everything, and the worlds worst speller.
    1. Re:Real Science by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Yes the show would be *so* much better if they did this.

      I can't believe there aren't engineers working behind the scenes on some of the myths anyway.. eg. the large catapult where you were trying to throw buster as far as possible (forget why..) - that's 100% solvable mathematically, and presumably was off-camera, but you never showed even a laymans summary of this.

  367. Sewer alligator -- can it be real? by Wingfat · · Score: 1

    Sewer alligator is an urban legend where it is said that 9-foot alligators reside in some city sewers, becouse some time ago baby alligators were popular pets for a short time. When the alligator started to grow big, the owners dropped them to toilet. These stories have been popular in cities where a large sewer system exists.

  368. Beer. by 0ber*n · · Score: 1

    Simple enough question: Sierra Nevada or Anchor Steam?

  369. hostility from vested interests? by The_Rook · · Score: 1

    have the mythbusters ever expeienced outright hostility from people (quacks, pseudoscientists, and parapsychologists) who have a vested interest in the continued belief in busted myths and junk science?

    i regularly read james randi's weekly web blog and he gets hostility all the time. of course, he reaches out to purposely debunk frauds who are actively tricking people and stealing money. but very often he catches hostility from those who desparately want to believe in psedoscience as well.

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    when religion is no longer the opiate of the masses, governments will resort to real opiates.
  370. Censored Material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm curious if you have any comment on material that you've presented that has been censored. I'm refereeing to and episode where you made a type of liquid fuel for a home made rocket. How do you feel about basic chemistry being censored in such a fashion to give someone a false sense of security?

    --Oceand

  371. Burning Man Contraptions - What Do They Think? by szyzyg · · Score: 1

    Q: Have The Mythbusters Ever Gone To 'Burning Man'
    Many of the contraptions that people lug out to the festival resemble things that the mythbusters build, but without the rationale of mythbusting. People build giant machines that generate tornados of fire, giant battling robots, massive tesla coils or mushroom cloud simulators - the kind of gizmos we see on the show. So even if you haven't been do you have any knowledge/stories/favrourites etc etc.
    Mythbusters in based in San Francisco and I know some of the 'experts' they bring in are Burning Man regulars so I guess I'm just interested in what they think of these 'amateurs' doing this kind of crazy stuff in the desert.

    1. Re:Burning Man Contraptions - What Do They Think? by illectro · · Score: 1

      I've seen some awesome stuff at Burning Man, and before you say anything, I was sober the whole time. Some of the home made machinery deserves a show of its own on Discovery.

  372. Killer Tissue Box by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    http://www.mythbustersfanclub.com/html/killer_tiss ue_box.html

    Memorable Quotes:
    Tory: "Any archer capable of completing this task shall be awarded a kiss from the fair M..." (looks at Kari) "Sorry, okay... ya... you're not going to get that. My mistake"
    Kari: "Let's Make a robot"

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    [Fuck Beta]
    o0t!
  373. You'd never air certain busted myths anyway... by wtfover · · Score: 1

    Why do you guys bother with the myths that you are obviously going to bust? For example, trying various ways to fool breathalyzers, or trying to fool radar detectors. Even if you did confirm one of these types of myths, for example finding a way to fool a breathalyzer, it's not like it would ever go to air anyway. I can't image a sitation where you'd be able to air a confirmed method of getting around any of these laws. So why bother?

  374. An easy one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there anyone besides you who cares?

    1. Re:An easy one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah! A Hilary Clinton fan I see.

  375. Turn of the Tide by Gadgetfreak · · Score: 1

    I think that episode is where the tide of the show turned away from only busting the myths. They determined that it was do-able, but then proceeded to take the additional step of obliterating the cement truck with way, WAY too many lbs of explosives. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy watching it, but it seemed like they were getting a little off-topic, and moving on to simple wanton destruction after they'd satisfied the myth.
    Personally, I wonder if that was because they were bored, or because the producers were well aware that the demographic that tends to watch the show also tends to enjoy large explosions.

    --
    "No fair, you changed the outcome by measuring it!" - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth
    1. Re:Turn of the Tide by jtorkbob · · Score: 1

      They say it all the time... if they can't recreate the myth, they figure out what they have to do to *make* it work.

      If the myth hadn't worked out, they were going to demonstrate just how much it *would* take. But it did work, and from there it's just fun-and-bangs.

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      AC: Only on slashdot... could the sentence "My hovercraft is full of eels." be moderated "+4, Insightful
    2. Re:Turn of the Tide by nocomment · · Score: 1

      That's because they try to do 2 things on mythbusters. The first being, replicating the myth, if it turns out busted they they move to the second, which is replicating the result. Hence the million pounds of explosives and a cement truck seperating like a catfish with an M80 in it's throat.

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  376. Injury and insurance by ValuedSubScriber · · Score: 1

    Can it actually be possible that somewhere someplace there's an insurance company game enough to take on the task of insuring you guys -- Whats the most worried you've ever been on a point of personal risk during a myth?

  377. Getting Struck by Lightning while showering.. by TheHawke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    or on the phone for that matter. You guys partially busted that, but I feel that the energy source that you guys used did not have the voltage or amperage that real lightning packs. What about using a Quarter Shrinker to get the genuine results? The gadget pushes over 100K Amps @ 15K Volts @ 6,500 Joules, can reshape any metallic object that you wind in a copper coil. IMHO, that is as close as you can get to the genuine article.

    http://teslamania.delete.org/frames/shrinker.html

    And knowing Adam, he'll be giggling like a kid in a candy store when he hears the shrinker fire the first time at 5K Joules.

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    First rule of holes; When in one, stop digging.
    1. Re:Getting Struck by Lightning while showering.. by Nemosoft+Unv. · · Score: 1

      ...but I feel that the energy source that you guys used did not have the voltage or amperage that real lightning packs.

      No shit. As stated in the episode, even the facility where they were testing this myth could not come close to Mother Nature when reproducing lightning. Nevertheless, with the 'limited' lightning available they quite confidently proved it is unsafe to use the phone or take a shower.

      The gadget (Quarter Shrinker) pushes over 100K Amps @ 15K Volts @ 6,500 Joules, [...]IMHO, that is as close as you can get to the genuine article.

      Impressive as the Quarter Shrinker is, it's puny compared to lightning. Lighting might easily do 100K amps at 15 million volts, so you're a factor 1,000 off... A quarter that gets the full brunt of a lightning strike will be vaporized. Consider this: you can hear thunder miles away; the Quarter Shrinker: maybe over a block?

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      "Fix it? It has been disintegrated, by definition it cannot be fixed!" - Gru in Despicable Me.
  378. I'd like to see... by nystagman · · Score: 1

    There's been a video floating around for a few years that purports to show someone being sucked into the intake of a jet engine. It looks vaguely fake to me, but sounds like it could happen. As jet engines are somewhat expensive, I don't know how practical a test could be done, but I'd be interested in watching what happens to 150 lbs of ballistics gel and bones. Urk.

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    Theory and practice are the same in theory, but different in practice.
    1. Re:I'd like to see... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Birds get sucked in all the time... it's a known hazard. It's not much of a stretch to imagine a person getting sucked in (provided they were in the air at the right point... parahcuting???).

  379. Van Eck Phreaking! by zonix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could you take on some computer myths?

    Oooh, how about Van Eck Phreaking? Not exactly a myth, but wouldn't it be cool?

    Would it be allowed even?

    z
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    1. Re: Van Eck Phreaking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of info on that here:

      http://gbppr.trighost.org/mil/vaneck/

  380. here's a good one by jaimz22 · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that everything you guys do when trying to "trick the law" you guys never succeed. like in the breatholizer test you couldn't find anything to trick it, and in the lazer / radar test you yet again couldn't beat it. are you guys no airing things that do in fact work (I could totally understand why) but I've always wondered that. And why didn't you try any of the soposed "radar scamblers" that you can get off the internet all day long, sure thier illegal, but not trying one does give the "busted" tag on that myth inconclusive. also with the breatholizer test, there is a type of candy sold in germany called "spunk" (yeah i know...) that has been shown to trick breathalizers. would you be willing to revisit these myths using other ideas on how to go about tricking them, or did you truely cut out things that work do to the fact that massive amounts of drunk people would speeding down the highway and get out of all thier tickets?

    thats one long question :)

  381. MPG myths. by Iguru42 · · Score: 0

    Why is it when you guys do the MPG myths you use such inexact methods? A gas tank is a very inexact amount. The only way to know if they were equal would be to have them totally empty but without looking inside or tipping it out how can you know that they were empty? Why not cut into the gas line then use external gas cans? That way you will know exactly what you started with.

  382. the toilet one by sparr0w · · Score: 1

    Do you think you could convince discovery channel to play more than just the toilet one? Everytime I tune in it's always the one where you try to prove someone smoking on a toilet won't blow themselves up. While this is an important lesson, I'd like to see other episodes as well.

  383. My question... by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I didn't have time to read through 3 pages of comments to see if someone asked this one: Has there been a myth you guys considered too dangerous to attempt to confirm or bust, if so, what was it?

  384. Halloween by BenderMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Given all the cool technology at your disposal, do you guys build costumes for halloween? If so, what are some of the costumes you've built? Pics.

  385. Myth: Window v Linux by davro · · Score: 1

    Window v Linux what's is the truth? For every claim there is, somewhere, a counterclaim.

    So should i continue to use ubuntu/linux on my laptop, or should i roll back to the pre-installed windows xp.
    Could you please bust this Myth.

    1) Security.
    2) Total cost of ownership
    3) Community

    If you need money to bust this myth, i hear billy doors from macrohard will cover the tab.

    1. Re:Myth: Window v Linux by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      did you read this article yet? Novell Doubts Microsoft Latest "Linux Facts" http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/22/134212 &tid=223

  386. Re:I've busted the mythbusters! Splitting arrows.. by rhavyn · · Score: 1

    The person you were responding to got the myth wrong. They weren't testing whether it's possible to split an arrow perfectly, we know it's possible since people have done so. The myth was is it possible to do so on command. As in, someone says split the arrow and you go and split the arrow every time. They proved that splitting an arrow perfectly on command was impossible.

  387. McGyver? by dascandy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    McGyver appears to be able to make anything he wants out of duct tape, a few pens, some rubber ducting, steel tubing and a torch. It does sound believable at times. Which ones would you like to try?

  388. Process for selecting Myths to Bust by PoitNarf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sure plenty of people are interested in how myths are selected for each show. Who gets to pick the myths to bust? Do you rely mostly on fan submissions about myths, or do you come up with the myths yourselves?

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  389. background question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jamie is it a myth that you were in the special forces? Does that explain you always wearing a beret?

  390. Myth or reality? by diablobsb · · Score: 1

    Is BSD really dead?

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  391. Aim for the sails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd aim for the sails. Thin and dry and easy to see from shore. Should ignite quickly and act as kindling towards the goal of igniting the rest of the ship. If the sailors pull them to put out the fires you also gain the advantage of slowing their progress.

    1. Re:Aim for the sails by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      They probably actualy dumped some oil or somehtign in the harbor. Then all the mirrors would have to do it ignite the oil and up goes all the ships around it. lowrr flashpoint, spread out to get several if not all the ships at once... sounds good to me.

  392. current topic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Darwin's theory of Evolution a myth?

  393. guest stars by VAXcat · · Score: 1

    You should have the guys from Car Talk on as guest stars for the next automotive related myth.

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  394. Crop circles by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    In that case, i'd love Adam and Jamie making a Fractal crop circle like the ones by the circlemakers.

    Come to think of it, i'd LOVE to see an explanation around the UFO and how the crop circles have evolved over time...

  395. You don't know what you are talking about. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    the grain in a wood arrow is not perfectly straight down the shaft, therefore a solid arrow will not split down the middle but rather follow the grain since after the initial cut with the arrow head, the shaft is actually being ripped apart(from having something big being pushed through it) and not being cut apart. maybe if they shot an arrow into a piece of bamboo it could split perfectly down the middle, but not a solid arrow made of wood.
    I sugggest you visit Jamestown's "Military through the Ages" military re-enactment event and talk to the people there who make their own arrows from scratch.

    A reasonable quality medieval arrow is straight-grained from end to end, those that are not are referred to as "modern pieces of shit".

    I have a crossbow bolt on my wall that is perfectly straight-grained, and has hand-applied split goose-feather vanes and a hand-forged iron pile head. The man who made it selected the wood while it was still part of a living tree, and seasoned it for over a year before shaping it. It is not particularly high quality compared to a real medieval quarrel, because the nock is just a slot sawn in the end (with a hand-forged saw, of course) instead of a fitted, hand-made horn or antler nock.

    If you hit this bolt directly in the nock, it would almost certainly split end-to-end, regardless of the oscillation of the incoming shaft, or the flexing of the impacted shaft. As you obviously already know, wood splits on the grain.

    I selected my jo and bo sticks for perfectly straight grain, too. And my axe-handles are all straight-grained, even though it's not really necessary in the hickory ones. Modern competition archers don't use wood shafts any more, so there is no longer a market for extremely high quality wooden arrows, so the "myth wankers" experiment is fatally flawed from the outset.
  396. Slashdot myths by Feanturi · · Score: 1

    Various slashdot posters have occasionally commented on having something called a 'girlfriend' or 'wife'. I want some proof of that, can you do a show on it?

    1. Re:Slashdot myths by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      do you need pics? how about signed and noterized certs? lol

  397. Please bust the number one myth on /.!!??!!?? by Hosiah · · Score: 1
    The number-one myth on Slashdot is: "Linux is too difficult to use on the desktop."

    So: Start with bare computers, and the install disks for each system. To be fair, use five major Linux distros http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major, and five of any non-Linux operating systems (This is fair because one Linux system is very different from another.). Your test subjects have to (a) install the system on the computers with NO expert assistance (they are allowed to consult all the manuals, books, and internet forums they need), and (b) are given one week each person/system-combo to complete a simple list of goals with each system: 1. Connect to the internet. 2. Send an email. 3. Compose a simple office memo and save it to removable media. 4. Play a movie. 5. Burn a set of songs onto a CD. 6. Load/install a game to a state of being playable, hardware issues be damned. By the way, no fair modifying the hardware given the subject, and no fair spending money on enhancements beyond the OS disks themselves. They can download all the freeware they want for any system.

    At the end, subjects can report on their success or failure in the goals, and the relative ease with which they accomplished each.

    As brownie-points: I offer my response to our recent Slashdot poll, in which I was the sole person to nominate you as the most accurate TV geeks: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168355&thresho ld=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=14074600 Note the date of Nov 20th. Almost like I knew you were coming, huh? We here will be eternally grateful if you can settle this once and for all.

    And to everybody else on the board: I'm not interrested in your responses at all. I can hear the rest of you babble all year. I'm asking the Mythbusters team, and the Mythbusters team ONLY.

  398. Civil War's last casualties? by el-spectre · · Score: 1

    I love the show guys, and really appreciate the recent emphasis on explaining the science of what you're doing.

    That said, regarding the civil war rocket... who the hell decided to test a rocket INSIDE THE SHOP???

    Thanks!

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    "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
  399. Jamie's Past Life by Lt.+Pierogi · · Score: 1

    Jamie's bio on the MythBusters website says that he is a wilderness survival expert, captain, diver, linguist, animal wrangler, machinist, chef and, of course, model-maker. Adam has made reference to Jamie being torture by guerillas in Central America on the show. How did Jamie become an expert in all of these subjects? At the risk of starting a new myth was Jamie ever a Navy SEAL, a CIA operative or even in the military at all?

    1. Re:Jamie's Past Life by yattaran · · Score: 1

      He's also become the shows security officer for some reason. Didn't they have another guy at that job earlier? Did he not want to pay that dude so he educated himself and took that dude's job? ;)

  400. Can solar sails be used on earth and not just in.. by Wingfat · · Score: 1

    Can solar sails be used on earth and not just in spasce? Nasa and Russian space agencys have launched a few solar sail ships into space. can the solar sail work here on earth? like to be used on a boat or even a car? can the needed protons or what ever make it through the atmosphere to push the sails on earth? Then the fastest a boat on water with a sail was like a little under 60 MPH, useing a solar sail in conjunction with a wind sail could you not break the water speed record useing sails of different types?

  401. This one's for Adam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you really that clumsy or is it just an act for the show?

  402. Adam interview link by pjgeer · · Score: 1

    Adam answered some of these questions already in another interview. I did not see it mentioned in this discussion, so here:
    part 1
    part 2

  403. White Phosphorus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US has been accussed of using White Phosphorous as a chemical weapon against the IRAQ insurgents. Can you test the chemical effects of White Phosphorous?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4442988.stm

    Thanks!

  404. How did it all start? by Tungbo · · Score: 1

    How did you folks get started in the special effects industry? What trainings did you have at the start or on the way?

  405. Carrie... by SpartacusJones · · Score: 1

    can I get her phone number??

    1. Re:Carrie... by filmotheklown · · Score: 1

      How much of the ratings are attributed to casting Carrie?

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  406. Jamies venerable stache... by sidus · · Score: 1

    How old is Jaime's moustache?

  407. How much do you build yourself? by claes · · Score: 1

    In the show, it looks like you build all the stuff yourself. However, in reality, how much is delegated to assistants never shown on screen?

  408. new host "hotness" factor by bgardella · · Score: 1

    It's obvious from your newer shows that you guys have been giving more airtime to younger, hipper folk that take over the show. Some of them aren't bad. Some are awful, IMHO. Do you guys get final say on these kids? Or does some marketing wonk at Discovery Channel say "this chick looks hot. Put her on." And is it possible there will one day be a Mythbusters without you?

  409. Season DVD's by bob_hymee · · Score: 1

    I love the show and would love to start collecting the seasons. I went to Discovery.com and almost had a cow. $50 for season 1 and $100 for season 2 !? Please tell me those prices are a myth!

  410. Hardest myth to prove by wolenczak · · Score: 1

    What was your hardest myth to prove wrong from a technical stand point? And which was the hardest that turned out to be true?

  411. I bow down by ElAsturiano · · Score: 1

    I bow down before the might of whoever is hosting this bit of video. I just watched the whole thing at 10am PST without a glitch... CoralCDN is to the power of /. what Tom bombadill is to the power of the ring...

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  412. Kari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Kari single?

  413. There are some great ideas there... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of testable myths surrounding the moon landing without actually going to the moon. Apparent optical anomalies in photos taken by the Apollo astronauts that moon landing "debunkers" cling to as evidence for example or whether radiation or the cold vacuum of space would affect the film in the Hasselbach cameras used on the moon.

    I think this would make an excellent show, but they would really need to devote the entire episode to give the material the proper treatment. This myth would probably fall in the category of taking too much time and/or money or be too technically demanding.

    1. Re:There are some great ideas there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. The camera is a "Hasselblad".

      2. This "NASA faked moon landings" is old-hat and has been debunked ad-nauseum See http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
        or see...
        Aw phooey- why don't you just (re-)take a high-school physics course.
        And PASS it this time! No sleeping in class!

          Sorry- perhaps they don't offer this type of course in the US (at least not in Kansas anymore, Dodo)

  414. Myths in society by smoke_screen · · Score: 1

    Do you believe in our current society with all it technological advances and level of civilisation that myths together with superstition still hold a place in it or that the "fun" you have on the show is actually part of general push to get rid of these myths and replace them with the facts? Great show, keep up the good work. -- All Your Base Are Belong To My Pet Goldfish

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  415. Kerry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Kerry single?

  416. Here's a question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On behalf of all of us: What's sex with an actual woman like?

    No one knows! It's a myth!

  417. Revisit bulletproof water! by geekbruin · · Score: 1

    Can you retest the "Bulletproof Water" myth, if anything, because it was so cool!?
    I was wondering, for example, what would happen if you used a deer slug or some projectile of solid lead. I don't know about a whole lot about ammunition, but it seems that the 50 cal rounds are big and fast but not necessarily solid. And what about squib rounds? Could they possibly be more effective in this case than regularly-packed ones?

  418. Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While the idea has been "posted to death" on Discovery's message boards, I would like to know why you haven't done a show on cell phone interference. I used to travel a lot, and it always made me laugh when the pilots would put their phones on the center console in the airplane, and then would ask passengers to turn their phones off. I've talked to pilots about the idea of cell phones interfering with aircraft navigation systems, and all they do is laugh; yet the FAA wants the public to believe that a cell phone being left on or operated on a plane will cause the navigation systems to go nuts - or at worst, that a rogue cell phone could bring the plane down.

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    1. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by Eliminos · · Score: 1

      I have heard two possible theories on this. Both of which are only minor: 1) The distortion that you hear when a phone connects (on speakers etc) could, if the plane is in a serious situation and the pilot is communicating with a tower, mask an instruction and make it difficult to comprehend 2) Because on an aeroplane, a mobile/cell phone is far from a tower, so it broadcasts on full power. Theoritically, if it is sitting on the floor of the plane, the sensitive fire alarms in the cargo hold could be set off by a phone.

    2. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by jollyroger1210 · · Score: 1

      So, why did Congre$$ try to pass a bill that would allow you to use your cell phone on a plane?

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    3. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by RIP · · Score: 1

      If you were allowed to use your cell phone on the plane, you wouldn't have to pay for the phone service the airline company has.

      Simple as that.. =)

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    4. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that a properly operating cell phone (or other FCC-approved electronic device) will not interfere with the instruments of an airplane that has no frayed wiring or loose electical connections. However, there is no way for the flight crew to verify that all the passenger's electronic devices are operating properly, and have not been damaged, altered, or contain manufacturering defects. Likewise, since aircraft wiring defects are routinely discovered and fixed during periodic maintenance cycles, that means the defect was there during the flights just before the aircraft went in for repair.

      Granted, the odds of a defective passenger device being used on a flight with defective wiring is low, but there are many thousadns of flights each year, with millions of passengers. Even very rare events will coincide with a large enough sample size. Most airline crashes are the result of several unlikely events all occuring on the same flight, and many in the airline idustry and regulatory bodies have decided to err on the side of caution. The fact that some airlines are relaxing their rules regarding passenger electronics indicates that they are moving to your point view, but they are moving slowly and cuatiously, and any accidetns attributable to electronic inteference will send them back to the previous total bans.

    5. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by johnjaydk · · Score: 2, Informative

      It mess up the mobile networks within the phones reach and therefore generates a lot of flak (pun intended) towards the airlines if they allow mobile phone usage.

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    6. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      Yes, I know that, actually; but the myth is that it "may cause interference with navigational equipment".

      Same thing with RF receivers of any kind (that's been put forth for years), not to mention other portable electronic devices. My iPod or sound-cancelling headphones (which sometimes they allow, and sometimes they don't) are not going to crash the airplane.

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    7. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it were that easy to disrupt a plane's flight systems, I would expect that terrorists would have tried it. Would be much easier than sneaking weapons onto the plane - just pack a transmitter in a bag checked into the hold that's got a timed turn-on.

    8. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      Yes, however that's not the reason stated by the airlines or the FAA. The reason stated is a bogus reason that it could cause the plane to crash by interfering with the navigational equipment.

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    9. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      Cell phone frequencies are unlikely to have harmonic splatter in the air bands (at least in the US; ATC frequencies are AM and in the 122 MHz frequency range; cell phones are 800 Mhz and up depending on the technology used).

      The FAA has contingencies in place to deal with interference - it does happen, incidentally - two planes transmit to the tower at the same time to ask for clearance to leave, and the signals intermix, resulting in a garbled transmission. That's why airplanes and ATC personnel repeat what they've been told - to ensure there's no missed communications. If the transmission is garbled, the receiving end says "Delta 1234, say again" if they know who it was who transmitted. If they don't, they deal with that contingency.

      Fire alarms? Set off by RF? Uh, no, don't think so. Fire alarms are set off by fires, not RF. That's why they're called fire alarms and not RF alarms.

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    10. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by Eliminos · · Score: 1

      'Some places have safety-critical electronic systems: hospital heart monitors and aeroplane flight control systems are a couple of obvious examples. Less obviously, modern buildings are becoming increasingly 'wired', with the result that air conditioning, fire alarms and such like can be susceptible to interference. There have been several instances of mobile phones disturbing safety critical equipment, resulting in a real danger to life. Consequently the use of mobile phones near such equipment is usually banned.'

      Incedently, is that why when i fry bacon the fire alarm goes off? But i bought a fire alarm, not a bacon alarm.

    11. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by Eliminos · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. The plane would have to be in trouble to be receiving and sending emergancy communications. And as for the interference in fire alarms, all that will cause is a depressurisation of the cargo hold.

    12. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      Don't be stupid; there's a slight difference between a fire alarm detecting smoke (I happen to have one of that type near my kitchen as well), and a fire alarm picking up RF signals and confusing that with a fire OR smoke. If you can't tell the difference between a smoke/fire detector and RF triggering one, there's no point in engaging in further discussion.

      My assertion is that if it were that easy to confuse aircraft navigation systems, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. There would have been no need for Mohammed Atta and the other 9/11 hijackers to have taken box cutters on the planes, when they could've accomplished their goal by checking a rogue transmitter and a timer in the storage hold of the plane. That's something that TSA does not look for.

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    13. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by Eliminos · · Score: 1

      How come with you Americans anything boils down to terrorism?

      What I am saying is in an EMERGENCY SITUATION such as loss of engine power or something that happened purely by accident (not terrorists) then a mobile phone can disrupt the emergency transmissions.

      And I'm not saying that a mobile phone gives off smoke.... what are you on? The disturbances seen in radios could theoretically disturb the electronics in a smoke alarm causing a false alarm.

      As for 9/11, what are you suggesting, that they set off fire alarms in the cargo hold... All that happens then is the HOLD is depressurised and whatever animals are in transit die. The cabin isn't depressurised, just the cargo hold.

      If you can't arguing points that I haven't even made, theres no point in engaging further discussions. To quote your words.

    14. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by trigggl · · Score: 1
      The reply of the previous poster is correct. The only real problem with using a cell phone on a plane is that it will interfere with a lot of cell towers. If there are many passengers on the plane with cell phones, that could tie up a lot of towers. A tower can only host so many phones at a time depending on which type of tower it is.

      As for interfering with the Avionics(Navigation Systems) on a plane, not happening. If that were the case, the towers all over the country side would interfere. They use basically the same frequencies and transmit with a lot more power.

      As a side note, at my company we are forced to install inexpensive Satcom phones, from a vendor to remain nameless, that make very good VHF(voice-to-ground radio) receiver. In one of our planes, the pilot could be heard clearly on the phone handset when the No. 2 VHF was transmitted on. I was asked to listen to the phone while someone transmitted on the VHF. I could hear the VHF clear as a bell. At first I thought I was supposed to be hearing it, then I remembered that this phone was not an intercom. So, the moral of the story is, you won't affect the avionics on the plane, but the avionics on the plane may affect you. The maker of this Satcom also makes cell phones that are approved for aircraft use. They are designed to not interfere with many cell towers while they are in the air.

      On that airplane, we had to connect the No.2 VHF to the No.3 VHF antenna to avoid the interference on the phone. Then, of course, the No.3 VHF became the problem, but the 3rd VHF isn't used nearly as much. The No.2 is used for talking to airtraffic control. The No.3 is used for non-essential options. In fact, the No.3 VHF is optional.

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    15. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      I agree with this assessment, hence the reason I'd love to see this myth busted. The assertion made by the FAA is absolutely ridiculous - along the same lines as cell phones causing gasoline pumps to explode (something they did bust).

      My question isn't about why the FAA doesn't allow cell phones - I've travelled enough to know what they tell passengers, and also have operated enough radio equipment to know what the properties of VHF radio are.

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    16. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      The assertion made by the FAA and other governments' travel agencies is that the RF signals from PEDs (including cell phones) can fuck up navigation. What's the worst thing that can happen as a result? The plane crashes. The assertion made by the FAA is that after 10,000 feet, it's somehow magically safer to use these devices (due to a lack of things for the plane to run into).

      Now, if someone *wanted* to bring a plane down - as the 9/11 hijackers clearly wanted to do - then this would seem to be the easiest way to do so. The assertion made by the FAA and that's recited over and over and over in the "safety lecture" (or safety video these days) is that it may interfere with navigation equipment. If aircraft fly-by-wire systems were affected by RF transmissions, the plane would be in jeopardy.

      Conversely, sunspots can screw with RF transmissions, so maybe the FAA should outlaw sunspots, too.

      The chances of RF transmission causing problems with the electronics in a smoke detector are so near to nothing as makes no odds. I've got a 50 W RF transmitter that I'm licensed to use; put it near my smoke detector or the smoke/fire detector that's tied into my alarm system, and it doesn't affect it at all. I don't have the fire brigade at my door every time I key my transmitter. Where do you get that I'm saying a cell phone gives off smoke? Try reading the words that are written, rather than injecting your own fantasies into things other people write.

      If airplane fire detection systems are more sensitive than what can be installed in a home, then the aircraft manufacturers aren't doing their jobs. Shielding electronics from RF isn't exactly rocket science - ever hear of a Faraday cage?

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    17. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by trigggl · · Score: 1
      As another person posted, the radios they use to talk to the tower, these VHF radios, transmit AM (amplitude modulation). Somehow, the handsets were demodulating and amplifying the signal sent to the VHF antenna which is in the belly about 5 ft away from where the Satcom was mounted. The problem is, the wires running to the handsets, which included an audio line, are routed right past the VHF antenna to get to the main bundle. We had to change our design to seperate those wires from the standard bundle and also seperate the audio from the power/ground wires. It's the only piece of equipment we've ever had to do that for. There were some tempers flaring when our test engineers told their engineers that they needed to fix their box. (Well, they needed to fix whatever was picking up noise because that's not the only thing it was picking up.) Sorry, but business jets have a few more things in them than phones and those things aren't going away. My second plane with that system went through without me hearing about any problems, so I assume our extreme wire seperation fixed the problem with the VHF2. It also uncovered a noise problem with a new Airshow box. Airshow is what displays that map that shows you were you are and also comes with briefings. Can you believe it runs on Windows XP? It takes it way too long to boot when the plane is turned on. I get nervous when I see Windows going on Airplanes, but I guess I'm just nervous because of my Win98 days. My work computer works just fine with Win XP. It also has a virtual Xwindows client that I use to connect to the drafting computers and work on my drawings.

      Well, I'm sure that's more than anyone wanted to know.

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    18. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I get nervous about any off-the-shelf OS being used as part of a system that's in charge of my life for any period of time. It's good that the Airshow systems aren't. :-)

      I can remember watching an airshow in Daytona (near the university I went to) and listening to the airshow tower frequencies on my Yaesu FT-470 (that's how close to the tower I was - listening to AM on an FM set requires a fair amount of signal).

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      Insanity is a gradual process; don't rush it.
    19. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by tcgroat · · Score: 1
      Interference does not occur every time, but it has occurred and continues to occur in many documented cases. Deterioration of the aircraft systems, inconsistent (low cost) quality of personal electronic devices, the sheer number and variety of devices involved, and the relative locations of the "culprit" and "victim" equipment makes aircraft EMC issues difficult to solve. Increasing reliance on electronics for safety-critical flight systems (fly-by-wire, precision approach and auto-landing, "glass cockpit" instrument panels, etc.) has made interference more critical than ever before; in the the newest civil aircraft RF interference is a much more serious issue than it was for eletro-mechanical-hydraulic systems used in older planes. The airlines' built-in phones and entertainment devices have crucial improvements over consumer products: they are designed, built, and tested to stringent interference control standards, and the flight crew has custody of the "OFF" switches.


      This link (and its many references) are convincing: http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de/publications/Incid ents/DOCS/Research/Rvs/Article/EMI.html.


      Myth: Upheld!

    20. Re:Cell Phones on Planes by hendersj · · Score: 1

      Of course, you might notice that my question isn't "what is the problem with using cell phones on airplanes" but "why don't you bust or confirm this myth?". I wasn't asking Adam and Jamie or the masses at /. for a lesson in EMI and radio transmissions - which is something I am already quite familiar with.

      They are reluctant to touch the myth, and I am asking why. This is in fact a completely different question.

      I went to school to be an aeronautical engineer, and am a licensed radio operator. I do actually know something about the subject.

      All the same, I thank you for the interesting link.

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      Insanity is a gradual process; don't rush it.
  419. Bad Science by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

    Question: Do you ever feel badly doing bad science, and then drawing conclusions from your results?

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  420. What Else? by Eliminos · · Score: 1

    We all know about Jamie's 7-up machine robot. And in the special features on the Matrix 3 DVD, we can see Adam working a tower collapse for the dock fight in Xion. But what other things have you two worked on?

  421. here's one that's interesting, by ReaperEB-Moo · · Score: 1

    Devise a plan to use that hot and saucey Kerri (red-headed goddess), to prove the myth, that you can't successfully pull a EverQuestI/II and/or Worlds of Warcraft junky, be it male or more interestingly female, game addict and prove that they can/can't interact with a real life female, in a real life relationship (albet it a short one). This could tie into the myth with the old saying, "Red on the Head, Fire in bed" !!! Just a thought..

    1. Re:here's one that's interesting, by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      wow.. i knew that she is hot, but i had no idea that the whole "geek" world is in such love with this poor girl. I say leave her out of the show or give her own. she takes away from the science and gets people to watch just for the sweet curves of a woman. a true gameing geek would drop WoW or EQ2 to be with a woman any day. so this is not really a myth. Dont you all remember revenge of the nerds.. "Nerds do it better, jocks spend their time thinking about sports, all nerds think about is tech and women." or somehting like that. but in since Nerds to it better.. every girl i have meet can back me up on that too. i can provide written testiomials and sign and notrized docs if needed.

  422. Self Description? by mcflaherty · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here at Slashdot, we take pride in our nerd and geek heritage. A lot of the knowledge and pastimes you demonstrate on your show qualify as pretty nerdy. Would you describe yourselves as geeks?

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  423. How would you change TV? by RonTheHurler · · Score: 1

    I've personally been on TV as an "expert" on the shows: Junkyard Wars, Monster Garage, Modern Marvels, Mail Call, Urban Legends Revealed and In The Name of Science. I've also consulted to shows like Nova and others. Why? I'm one of the world's leading authorities on ancient catapult and trebuchet technology. It's a silly thing, but hey, it got me on TV. (and I was suprised that the MythBusters didn't call me when they did their catapulting shows. Wassup wit dat?)

    Anyway, my experience has been that all TV shows- even a "science" show like Nova, are first and foremost a form of entertainment for the masses. It's astonishing how much real science and real (and interesting) educational content is disposed of in favor of dumb comedy or adversarial content in the shows I participated in. Knowing what goes on behind the camera helps one to "see" what's going on behind the camera in other shows too. And I can see it happening in MythBusters- good and interesting informative content that should be there was cast aside in favor of the cheap gag.

    TV producers always seem to think that the currency of "good" television is conflict. In other words, people love to watch a good fight, or at least an argument. People also like to think that they are learning something, but hate to really learn. ("If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but, if you really make them think, they'll hate you." -- Harlan Ellison) The TV show MacGyver is an example....

    In educational television, fail to entertain, and you lose the student. But it's all too easy to lose the education in favor of the entertainment too.

    We live in a time when the US is falling behind, and may even lose its lead in the global science and engineering disciplines. School science programs are suffering, fewer and fewer kids in the US are studying science and engineering in colleges. We need to inspire our kids to study more science and engineering, and develop a stronger interest in these fields. This is not an issue of global competition, I view it as an issue of the US not living up to its responsibility as the wealthiest nation on earth. Shouldn't we also be capable of producing and distributing more and better scientists, engineers and technologies for the benefit of everyone?

    "If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am not for others, what am I? And if not now, when?" - Hillel, 1st. century BCE.

    So my question is this- Is the show just another stab at entertaining the public and making a few dollars off of advertisers, or are you really interested in helping inspire people (especially kids) to think, and to learn something new, and if so, do you think you could/should be doing a better job, or are the realities of producing a popular TV show just too much of a barrier to that?

    By the way, my money is where my mouth is. I gave up a lucrative career as a CIO to design and sell catapults and trebuchets to schools and students. The most common feedback I get from teachers is: "Nothing has inspired an interest in learning math and physics more than building and tuning the trebuchet!" I take credit for sending dozens of kids off to engineering schools who would otherwise not have gone that route. I'd like to reach more kids too. Any pointers on getting my own TV science show?

    Oh, and get your own catapult today!
        http://www.catapultkits.com/
        http://www.trebuchet.com/
        http://www.mangonel.com/
        http://www.trebuchetplans.com/
        http://www.thehurl.org/

  424. This is "science"? by slathering · · Score: 1

    Why do you habitually make conclusions after running what is clearly a statistically insignificant number of experimental trials?

    I recall an episode where you compared the fuel efficiency of a car with it's windows open to one with closed windows but the a/c on. After a single experiment, you declared that the closed-window car was more efficient, despite the fact that the difference in efficiency was small, and you ran only a single experiment.

    There are obviously a dozen or more variables that could change the outcome of the experiment. The make and model of car, the speed, the weather conditions at the time, type of gasoline could all have an effect. Yet somehow you drew a conclusion from this one experiment.

  425. Have you seen Kari naked, and if so, how was it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please explain in detail.

    Thank you

  426. Revisit the quicksand myth by eclectro · · Score: 1

    Though you showed that wet quicksand like in the movies was a myth, a week later after the show aired a scientific study came out showing that empty spaces under dry sand could develop and implied that this could be the source of the anecdotal quicksand stories.

    It's not hard to think of how the sand at the very top might become wet over the dry empty sand structures (like after a rainstorm), then you would have true quicksand like in the movies. Rather than have the sand wet in the whole tank as you did on the show. Plus, you gave no thought to empty voids that might develop under wet sand.

    I think that this myth that you 'busted' is entirely 'plausible' (esp. with just dry sand).

    Website for the scientific study with video.

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    Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
    1. Re:Revisit the quicksand myth by eclectro · · Score: 1


      To append my post, another spect would be that the sand could have been so fine that it appeared "wet" as in the video. Adding another layer of plausibility to this myth.

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      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
    2. Re: Revisit the quicksand myth by rein2005 · · Score: 1

      I saw this episode of Mythbusters too. I'm very interested in ur alternative explanation of 'quicksand' by the mechanism of collapsing structures or voids beneath loose, fine, dry sand.. I'll check out the link soon.

      But I thought I would add to this.

      The 'quicksand' they tested on Mythbusters was simulated by a large plastic tank, probably about 2.5 - 3 metres in diameter & maybe 4-5 metres high.. they filled it with water and fine-medium grained sand until the mix reached a consistency that seemed like it had the 'quick' condition characteristic of quicksand, as in the movies.

      Then they had a guy stand in the tank and tested whether he sunk into the quicksand. Of course, he didn't sink that far, probably up to his chest or so, and they concluded that quicksand does not exist.

      'Quicksand' in a natural environment would exist in a swampy, marsh or jungle setting.. in that sort of environment, the soils contain a lot of silt which are very fine particles (2-70 microns?)and when combined with water, have a very slippery texture. The upper materials would be mostly leaves and organic matter & topsoil.

      A swampy area like this is also not contained in a small tank like on Mythbusters, which in effect prevented the man from sinking. The sand around the guy was displaced sideways and compressed into the tank walls. This compressive horizontal force, when combined with the natural upwards buoyancy force of the water, would have stopped him from sinking to the bottom.

      If they want to test it properly, they need to have a large open space, or at least a very large diameter tank, with gradually sloped walls, so that no significant sideways force can stop them from sinking.

      They should also try different mixtures of clays, silts, sands and organic materials more characterstic of a swampy quicksand.

      Of course, the tank was a nice start to show these things, but I really wish they wouldn't just draw conclusions without refining their models and thinking more carefully about the actual mechanisms at work in some of these 'myths'.

  427. What happens to all the Stuff? by Bigjonnyf · · Score: 1

    What happens to all the cool stuff you guys build after the show is aired?

  428. the scientific method vs. blowing stuff up by option8 · · Score: 1

    I wonder, sometimes, how often the nitty gritty science content - things like control groups, double-blind setups, etc - gets cut in favor of the "Adam blowing stuff up" segments in order to make the show come in on time.

    For instance, the recent episodes about seasickness cures and alternate uses for vodka. The seasickness placebo pill seemed like an afterthought, but should have been part of the process from the beginning. Also, it wasn't an inert sugar pill, but a vitamin, which could potentially throw the results into question (I know that the vitamins I take often make me feel nausea if I take them on an empty stomach). And what about the meals the subjects had eaten beforehand? In the end, each of the "cures" could have been subject to placebo/nocebo effect, since the subjects all knew what they taking, and what the "cures" supposed to do.

    As for the vodka tests, a good many of those trials could have been performed with water as a "control." To determine if the effectiveness of vodka as mouthwash, for instance. Was it due to its alcholic content, its lack of noticeable flavor or aroma?

    I imagine there's a lot we don't see, based on the time constraints and the pressure to put a lot of "Adam blowing stuff up" content on-screen to bring up the numbers. My question is this: how much of it gets tossed? How much real scientific method actually happens to begin with, and who is responsible for designing it into the experiments? And is there any way (on the show's website, for instance) to share the complete data, experimental setups and whatnot, that don't get shown on TV?

    P.S. Thanks for a very entertaining and enlightening show. Can you let Adam blow stuff up more often?

  429. Mythbusters Question - This Way and That by joemontgom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My question for Mythbusters. A baseball pitcher stands in the back of a pickup truck facing backwards. The truck picks up speed until it reaches, say, sixty miles per hour. If the pitcher then throws a baseball (in the opposite direction that the truck is going) at sixty miles per hour, will the ball hang in the air, drop straight down, or drop in a parabolic arc? I think the ball will appear to pause briefly in the air and then drop straight down (providing the ball and truck are traveling at exactly the same speed), but some friends think it will drop in an arc. They believe that the wind will play a factor but I disagree...unless there is a head wind or cross wind. I'd love to see Adam and Jamie conquer all the physics issues to see what will happen (although I do see a pitching machine or tennis ball cannon take the place of the pitcher for consistency). Joe Montgomery

    1. Re:Mythbusters Question - This Way and That by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      well hmm it would seem the objects in motion stay in motion. there would not then be a moment of a pause. but actually, the ball in hand is travling at 60MPH as respect to the truck it is on. if thrown at that point at a controlled speed of 60 MPH then would it not then be at almost 120 MPH depending on wind strengh. Then it would drop in an Arc. I think people have done tests like this with bullets before.

    2. Re:Mythbusters Question - This Way and That by joemontgom · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind though that the ball is being thrown in the opposite direction that the truck is traveling. If the truck is traveling north at sixty miles per hour, the ball would be thrown towards the south at sixty miles per hour. If the ball was dropped from the truck, it would obviously fall in an arc; however, it is being thrown backwards so it should negate the forward velocity.

    3. Re:Mythbusters Question - This Way and That by codefool · · Score: 1

      Truck is traveling at vector -60mph, and ball is travelling at +60mph + effect of +60mph wind on the ball, and the ball is spinning, etc. Given that the sum of all positive vectors less the negative vector is > 0, then the net velocity of the ball would be +, and would fall in an arc away from the truck. A very steep arc, but not straight down.

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    4. Re:Mythbusters Question - This Way and That by joemontgom · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming that when you refer to "wind" on the ball, you mean "resistence". If the truck is traveling at -60mph and the ball is traveling at +60mph, the resistence should be equal from both directions. Yes, spin will have an affect, but without resistence from either side, it should not become a factor until the ball begins to be pulled down by gravity, thus creating resistence from below. And in my opinion, since it will fall a very short distance, the ball should not reach a velocity that will create enough resistence to make a difference. Thus, I still believe that the ball will fall straight down. - Joe

  430. Science Content by Kennric · · Score: 1

    I'll group my question with this, as it is related - I often see situations on the show that could very obviously be validated or busted by any good engineer or physicist and a blackboard - but that wouldn't be very good TV (Walking vs Running in the rain, classic application of basic calculus...).

    What is the science support for the show? Surely you must have some real scientists on the research team, what do they tell you, and how many of the results do you actually know ahead of time due to your research staff and just being good engineers yourselves?

    Once in a while it would be nice to have a theory guy come in after the myth has been entertainingly tested to bolster the results with real science. Especially when the "testing" is often so paltry with real generalizable data. This would be especially neat when the physical testing seems to disagree with the science. I have noticed a bit more "Science Content" on recent episodes, but I think the show would be more interesting if for instance your declarations of busted or not were backed up with a really good explanation of why something is mathematically/physically plausible to begin with, as opposed to just saying, well, we blew it up, but it still didn't fly 200 yards, myth busted.

    How do you guys feel about the science content of your show and your myths? What do you think about having a real scientist on the show to audit results?

  431. Cranium RF Magnification by Tocano33 · · Score: 1

    I have heard people say that the keyless remotes for cars, when just out of range of the car, will work if you look at the car and hold the remote up to your temple.

    This seem plausible? And what in the world would make something like this work?

  432. What are your backgrounds? by Blapto · · Score: 1

    We often hear about Jamie's past experience as a dive master, and Adam has alluded to Jamie having Forces experience (jokingly or not... I couldn't really tell.) You both seem to have led interesting lives, I'd love to know a little more about your backgrounds. Thanks

  433. Intelligent Design by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

    How about a true, scientific test of Intelligent Design so we can observe it? Maybe create a transparent vacuum chamber and call forth to the intelligent designer to "create" a cherry pie in the chamber within one minute so we can verify his existence and credit him for his work.

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    1. Re:Intelligent Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK.

      But first I want to see a single cell organism arise spontaneously from a vat of chemicals.

  434. You're thinking of Scottie... by chad9023 · · Score: 1

    I think you're thinking of Scottie... Scottie Chapman I'm a Kari man myself though.

    1. Re:You're thinking of Scottie... by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      right, the original poster saud

      >There's also been a lot less Scottie, though. Maybe they just don't have as much stuff that needs serious welding any more?

      to which the reply was "she's not on the show anymore", which appears to be the case*

      seemed to me they were talking about Scottie all along? Where did Kari come in except to ask for more Myths with Kari in a bikini (that *was* pretty hot) - they painted her with aluminum paste to test the tinman myth**

      *also notice that Kari, Grant and Torry get equal billing with Jamie and Adam now?

      **which was otherwise a screw-up because it really happened and Buddy Ebsen claimed he was sickened by the aluminum dust they used for makeup.

      http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/ozebsen.htm

      The aluminum dust used in Ebsen's makeup had caused an allergic reaction or infection in his lungs that left him scarcely able to breathe, and he ended up spending two weeks in the hospital and another month recuperating in San Diego. ...

      The aluminum makeup was modified as well, changing from a powder that was brushed on to a paste that was painted on.


      The guy that replaced him was made up with aluminum paste which was not irritating at all. Smearing Kari with aluminum paste makeup was entirely pointless, well except that it was hot.

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      There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

  435. best example: by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    Chicken gun.

    The first time around, they called it "Busted" after having done analysis of the steel plate footage completely wrong. It hurt to watch because they were doing so well up to that point. Chicken gun redux was a bit better, but they never did explain what was wrong with the analysis of the steel plate.

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  436. Re:Will the new San Francisco gun laws change show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ban is unconstitutional according to the state laws. So not only will it soon be overturned, but I'm not sure it would be illegal to disobey it. Besides, when the ban was passed, only 100 handguns were turned in from a city of x million residents. Anyway, they should have plenty of leftover "phosphorus tipped, air-friction-igniting" tracers to keep them going for a while. :-\ **note: tracers actually use magnesium salts in the base of the bullet and are ignited by the burning gunpowder. The orange or red tips of tracer rounds is just paint to tell them apart from regular rounds.

  437. Question for the Mythbusters by the+jalapeno · · Score: 1

    Can a car really stop on a dime?

  438. We can bust this myth right now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WP is not classified as a chemical weapon because it produces thermal burns, not chemical burns. This is nothing more than the latest attempt by liberals to try to defang the U.S. military and render it harmless. Liberals hate the military because the need for a powerful military flies in the face of their humanist utopia everybody-stand-in-a-circle-and-sing-kumbaya ideaology.

    http://www.techcentralstation.com/111705D.html

  439. 9/11 Myth by asadsalm · · Score: 1

    There is a documentary out there called "Loose Change". Very good quality. But I am not sure of the quality of their claims.

    One claim is that detonations were going on in the building while it was collapsing. They have visual proof of this abnormality.

    Could you try busting or reinforcing that myth?

  440. Breast Implants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it true breast implants can blow up if the female recipient is in a car accident whereby the breasts are subjected to significant trauma?

  441. Re:Do you realize that you are inspiring a generat by MoodyLoner · · Score: 1

    Same with my four-year-old. She calls this show Men Breaking Things.

    What I wouldn't mind are some suggestions for safer Mythbusting we can do for various sciences, but I can probably find that myself.

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    No Longer a Menace to Society.
    Alexandria Morrigan born 2/22/01 l. 20.5in wt. 7 lbs. 5 oz.
  442. Re:Some myths, gotta be busted - more by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1
    • Can a person send/receive cell phone calls using a regular phone while the plane is in flight
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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  443. half tonneau by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
    That's sort of surprising. I only found a few mentions on google
    They built an S10 pickup to do speed runs at Bonneville and they left the tailgate up, and had a tonneau cover on the back half of the bed. It seems that in the wind tunnel testing they did, the wind coming over the cab was swirling down and forward and pushing on the back of the cab, and actually giving them more speed. I guess this would also give more mileage, but I don't know if it would be much of a difference. The next layer of air was catching in the bed about half way back and slowing them down, hence the back half tonneau cover.
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    o0t!
    1. Re:half tonneau by bgarcia · · Score: 1
      Here, I found the following: link
      It was apparently a GMC S-15, not a Chevy S-10.
      As you know, GMC already garnered the world's fastest pickup award last year in an S-15, and now they've done it again, posting a two-way speed of 204.145mph in a new Cyclone LSR
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      I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
  444. Most requested myth? by Yogger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is the most requested myth you guys have been asked to test? Have you done it, if not why?

  445. Question: I'm just wondering... by mihamed · · Score: 1

    ...in case Adam or Jamie would end up being killed while in the process of mythbusting, do they believe it would be worth the ultimate sacrifice (for the sake of science and all)? :)

  446. Ooga Booga myths by theantix · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know at one point in the show you've stated that you like to stay away from the "ooga booga" myths, meaning I suppose the ones with a bit of mysticism attached to them. But still, a large percentage of the myths out there actually fall into that category. A good compromise might be doing a Halloween episode in which you dedicate one show to taking on a few of the most tv-friendly "ooga booga" mythbusting. What do you think of this idea?

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  447. Plummeting elevator by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 0

    If I were in a plummeting elevator and I jumped the exact moment before the crash, would I escape the kinetic damage unharmed (assuming the elevator remained intact)?

    Also, if you did your show from a van in Miami to test the *actual* sluttiness of random 20something women passing by, would it be called BangBusters?

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    "Made up/misattributed quote that makes me look smart. I am on /. and I must look smart."
  448. burning man or SRL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    have you ever worked with the guys at SRL - Survival research labs? www.srl.org. I'm sure you guys know them, and I'm guessing you probably have even colaborated with them on some level.Mark Pauline has always been involved with this group.

    Do you guys ever show up at Burning Man festival (burningman.org). It seems a really great place to let loose your crazy contraptions... Great show... I hope to see it continue... TV has degnerated into this video ghetto of useless content... it is refreshing to see good TV once in a while.

  449. Question #1: by avp0 · · Score: 0

    How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

    They haven't answered this one yet!

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    PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals!
  450. Mythbuster vs. Star Wars by sunwukong · · Score: 1

    What would your preference be: continuing on with Mythbusters (hoping and assuming sustained/increasing popularity so you can do more "wild n' crazy" things) or being contracted out to help out on the next Star Wars/Lord of the Rings/ movie?

  451. Safety versus Ratings by pisces22 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How much pressure do you feel to test more and more dangerous myths in the pursuit of ratings and have your safety standards changed at all for the sake of "good TV"?

    1. Re:Safety versus Ratings by jdray · · Score: 1

      Speaking of ratings, do you feel like you have to "dumb down" your experiments because the majority of your audience probably couldn't (or wouldn't want to) follow more rigorous scientific methods?

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      Updated 6/28/2011
    2. Re:Safety versus Ratings by notanatheist · · Score: 1

      That's why they have Buster!! Have you not seen the show? That's about the only thing I miss on TV (I don't watch anything these days).

    3. Re:Safety versus Ratings by shadow0_0 · · Score: 1

      Safety? Have you seen the show? Adam regularly get injured :), like the time he put his lips too close to a vaccum cleaner motor, or the burnt eyebrows...

  452. Does they ever make you fudge results? by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

    I have friends who did some Discovery Channel special, and their "results" were way faked - but watching the special afterwards, you'd never know that. Have they (meaning, I guess, the Discovery Channel or producers or whoever) ever made you fudge some of your results to support or refute a myth they particularly liked/didn't like?

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  453. Mythbusters by gumbyandpokey · · Score: 1

    Are the mythbuster vixens Kari and Scottie single?

  454. confirm/bust this myth by pintomp3 · · Score: 1

    intelligent design. once and for all please.

  455. Producers boost ratings with Chicks. Myth? by ShagratTheTitleless · · Score: 0

    Whose idea was it to end the sausage-fest by including females on the show and did it bump up the ratings? If so, might I suggest going for universal appeal by having a blonde, brunette and redhead?

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    Sometimes at night I imagine the darkness is filled with horrible things with too many teeth, like Julia Roberts.
  456. Penn & Teller by dagoalieman · · Score: 1

    Watch Penn & Teller's Bullsh*t!

    That show is almost spot on for that sort of topic. Save they don't take the scientific view at it. To boot, they're pretty equal opportunity harassers when it comes to politics. Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Green, etc are all targets as far as those two are concerned. And occasionally they're educational too.

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    We don't need no Net Explorer We don't need no Thought control
    1. Re:Penn & Teller by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 1

      P&T actually fielded the moon landing claim in one episode (third season, IIRC). They debunked quite a few conspiracy theories in that episode, including the Kennedy assassination (what a coincidence...it's Kennedy day).

      Bullshit is such an awesome show.

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      I support the Center for Consumer Freedom
  457. Bad Myth by WasII · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is the worst myth that you have ever tried to bust or confirm. One that, once you had it going, was just vile and wished you had never picked it.

  458. Was the stinky container returnable or reusable? by hpulley · · Score: 1

    In the myth of the stinky, unsaleable car in which a person had died, you let a couple of pigs rot in a Chevrolet Corvette for a couple of months and then succeeded in selling the car, even though it still stank and had no seats, etc. What happened to the shipping container you used to house it? Was it a rental? If so, were you able to return it? If not, were you able to reuse it yourself or was it so stinky that it went to the scrapyard?

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    $#!^ happens, but why does it always have to happen to me???
  459. Is Alcoholics Anonymous effective? by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

    It claims to help people stop drinking, but what it really seems to offer is religious conversion (despite the "AA is spiritual, not religious" slogan/claim), and it blames the many who continue to drink destructively for their own drinking, saying it's because they "didn't work The Program." This could be a part of the "ooga booga" topic someone else posted.

    From the article: "AA: America's Stealth Religion" on Beliefnet, 12-step members make up about 10 percent of the US population. Based on their fervent belief and the way I've seen them post on Oprah's board (and seeing non-AA supportive posts get deleted there), I expect flames for even daring to ask this question.

    Penn and Teller did an episode of their excellent Showtime show "Bullshit!" on steppism, and they've done some hard-hitting episodes on other controversial topics, but I get the feeling that Mythbusters will stick to the "Don't put a JATO pack on the back of a car" type of show. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but ideas can be more powerful and dangerous to society than high explosives, and such things should be discussed from all sides.

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  460. A better question... by Urusai · · Score: 1

    ...is insurance really necessary for every damn thing a person does? Can't people do anything without a written policy, permission from the court, a license from city hall, and twelve different committees?

    I propose you blow something up without the above and test this myth.

  461. Science vs. Entertainment by sherpajohn · · Score: 1

    It appears to me neither of you have any formal scientific training. While some of your episodes involve detailed calculations, and engineering with tight tolerances, your experiments are more entertaining than scientifically valid. Though it would be a shame to completely change the show from what is a very entertaining (and funny and scary and sometimes illuminating) hour, have you ever considered adding a scientific "addendum" to the myths you explore? Having done your best to bust/confirm a myth - go to a scientist and have them give a brief background of the science involved in the myth. This could add a new element to the show - sometimes confirming the results of your efforts, or maybe introducing an element of doubt into the results. Do you think it would make the show better to add a bit more science to your very entertaining efforts?

    Thanks.

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  462. Men vs. Women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have always heard the myth that men are bigger cheaters than women are. Is it possible to bust that myth?

    Nathan

  463. my requerst: Kari Byron by pilotlicense · · Score: 1

    Will you marry me?

    1. Re:my requerst: Kari Byron by Mattfn · · Score: 1

      Fortunately for her, you're way too late. But she wouldn't anyway based on this. Did you seriously think posting this on a forum collecting questions for Jamie and Adam would get you anywhere? Or are are you deliberately trolling?

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  464. Cement truck bomb by mknewman · · Score: 1

    Several of your myths involve large, dangerous explosions. Specificly Eposode 26 with the cement truck explosion seemed to be almost a lesson in terrorism. In fact, a cement truck was blown up in Bagdad on October 25, not too long after this episode aired. Don't you think there are some places that it's better not to go, especially in the unfortunate political climate? Showing how to create a weapon of mass destruction using a truck and dynamite isn't really good science now, is it? I'm sure it was a 'blast' to watch though.

  465. Who you gonna call? by ral315 · · Score: 1

    Who you gonna call?

    Guest Busters!

  466. Dear Mythbusters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...after seeing the show about peeing on a powerline I've tried it myself... unfortunatly I live in europe and it seems that we use slightly higher voltage to run our trains. When I wake up in the hospital I was askd why I did it and I said it was shown to be safe on Mythbusters... then they told me that in europe the voltage for powerlines for trains is from 15.000 V to 50.000 V depending on the country...
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  467. Snopes.com by AdamWeeden · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you ever use the information at snopes.com? (My personal favorite for busting day to day myths.)

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  468. only important question there is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how come you keep dragging this once interesting show into the muck of Yet Another Episode With No Excuse?

    It's dead, Jamie!

  469. For the convenience of Jaimie and Adam by faust13 · · Score: 1

    Jaimie and Adam for all those that endlessly complain about the lack of hard science and that god aweful complaint about the whole AC vs. windows down, I thought you might find this useful:

    You know, before I answer any more questions there's something I wanted to say. Having received all your letters over the years, and I've spoken to many of you, and some of you have traveled... y'know... hundreds of miles to be here, I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show!

    BTW, my four year old daughter and I love your show. I miss the early years, before you started censoring ingredients and blurring signs, shirts, etc.

  470. HERE IS TEH FULL SCOOP ON "Kari" by NRAdude · · Score: 0

    I looked it all up, because obviously none other than me are looking for everything but smut pictures of sister Kari.

    Biographry of Kari -- "Sculptor, painter, actor and one-time-only backside-model."

    Nuclearbeef dedicated photograph area to Kari -- I think this photo of her compares with brother Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda having chosen to wife with sister Kathleen. But before anyone goes around shootin' their wads, just remember that Kari flies the horns just like every Satanist in the McWorld.

    I don't think they mean to spread freeBSD.

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  471. Amateur Mythbusting by raflmoe · · Score: 1

    What's a good approach for myth busting?

    1. Re:Amateur Mythbusting by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      Maybe you weren't paying attention during the part of the show that comes after all the commercials.

      Do. Not. Try. This. At. Home.

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  472. god, what a lame-o! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ha Ha! You just admitted to having seen "Friends"!

  473. Re:Chilling the soda? by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

    Without bothering to google for any pertinant articles, I beleive the expansion of the soda from a compressed state provides more than sufficient chilling. Empirically, I usually order my soda "no ice" and have never had a problem with it being "lukewarm". I'll usually finish the drink far sooner than it will have a chance to get warm, even on a hot day with no A/C.

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  474. Maybe in Kansas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "could you at least point out that there are some possibilities you aren't testing?"

    Hey now! maybe in Kansas, but good slashdot science isn't about admitting there are possibilities other than the ones popularly tested.

    1. Re:Maybe in Kansas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he ment remotely fucking possible possibilities.
      Maybe in kansas a grown person can believe in santa claus the tooth fairy or god,but like your neadrathal brethren survival of the fitest will solve that for us;

  475. Flammability of farts by mastrude · · Score: 1

    Is it possible to light a fart on fire?

  476. Myth or Reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That there is actually a thread out there in slashdot that doesn't have one of these 'All your Myths are belongs to us' or a 'In Soviet Russia myth busts you'.

    Inquiring minds want to know...

  477. Question by BrianRaker · · Score: 1

    So far, what has been the most interesting myth that you have *not* had the opportunity to bust or confirm?

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  478. The question we all want to ask is... by jollyroger1210 · · Score: 1

    ..how can I get a job on the show??

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    1. Re:The question we all want to ask is... by Wingfat · · Score: 1

      thats right! how do we get on.. lol

  479. You call yourselves nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You call yourselves nerds?

    How about these amigo's bust some real myths:

    1.) Big foot?
    2.) Nessy?
    3.) Windows Robustness?
    4.) UFO's?
    5.) Where's scully?

  480. Do you think your show draws interest to science? by Paradox · · Score: 1

    Lately we've been hearing a lot about how America is starting to produce fewer graduates in the sciences and falling behind in the development of new technology.

    Do you think your show is helping to correct this problem? Do you ever deliberately try and choose myths that might excite your younger audience towards a career in science r technology?

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  481. Re:Some myths, gotta be busted - more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy fuck you 9/11 trolls are all over this story!

  482. mnb Re:Blasting Zone Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's got a more scientific outlook than Mythbusters though. It explains *why* something will or won't work, in simple enough language... all mythbusters does is say 'well, that worked..' and end the programme with no explanation.. which kinda irritates me.

    BAH!

    If Mythbusters spent the time explaining *why* they would have people like you complaining that their explanations weren't this or weren't that, or that the explanations are taking away valuable blowing-caravans-apart time.
  483. Let's turn the tables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys are probably getting annoyed at all these questions. Tell you what. Why don't you ask ME a question! Anything at all.

  484. Are there any myths you guys *refuse* to bust? by BaRbArIaN1 · · Score: 1

    There must be some that are too gross, dangerous or politically incorrect (you *are* in California after all) for you to dare try.

  485. I See Your Problem by virg_mattes · · Score: 1

    The problem you're putting forward is that the car can't keep itself moving at the speed necessary to maintain sufficient upforce to pin itself to the roof. The thing to keep in mind is that downforce to provide lateral stability isn't really the issue here. In this special case, the car needs only to move fast enough to generate downforce slightly higher than its own weight to remain attached. It doesn't need steering ability to drive upside down in a straight line, only enough speed to keep itself off the ground, and enough extra force to keep the tires from breaking loose. Since it's assumed that the car will be moving quite fast when it inverts, it's unlikely that hard acceleration will be needed to keep going, so the tires won't break loose very easily. Given that the driver won't need to punch the accelerator, just maintain speed, you wouldn't need very much force at all to overcome the drag of the aeroforms.

    All that said, though, from what I've seen of F1 engine design the car would never make it anyway since it's unlikely to be able to run upside down without major design changes. Assuming no gravity feeding and a fuel tank that works in any orientation, I think you'd be able to do it.

    Virg

    1. Re:I See Your Problem by HarvardAce · · Score: 1
      All that said, though, from what I've seen of F1 engine design the car would never make it anyway since it's unlikely to be able to run upside down without major design changes. Assuming no gravity feeding and a fuel tank that works in any orientation, I think you'd be able to do it.

      I just wanted to reiterate this to make sure everyone saw the point that the parent made. I hadn't even though of this, but the parent poster is correct: cars use gravity for things other than sticking to the road, and no amount of downforce will make gravity inverse. This is probably why we haven't seen any cars shooting down a path upside down.

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  486. The Guillotin by Lumet · · Score: 1

    Were people still "alive" after being having their head cut by the guillotin?

  487. I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A myth can end up being true, depending on common convention.

    We're talking about people who get these things from emails, or uncle Herman, or the kid down the street who "heard it from friend of a friend of a cousin..."

    It's called a "myth" when enough people get the information in this manner.

    "Busting" puts some objective analysis. It's either busted as true or false, but in either case, the myth is busted and changed into fact or fiction (or, plausible, or they didn't bust it right, etc.)

  488. The other kind of question... by MSZ · · Score: 1

    is:

    Did you ever get into the legal troubles due to some of your experiments?

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  489. Only two questions... by fwc · · Score: 1

    1) Is or is not Jaimie an evil genius? 2) Did or did not Adam loose that eyebrow? (and if he didn't can't he get a little closer on the next take?)

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  491. It May be Possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While it may be probale that a device like this was in fact constructed and even probable that it was used and may have even torched or at least set to flame one ship (ignoring factors like wet hulls, and having ideal conditions).

    You meant possible, not probable. Really changes the meaning...

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  494. Re:Shown vs. Not Shown: Yes, it happens. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Has there ever been a segment that you wish had been shown, but didn't make the cut? >Conversely, was there a segment that did make the final show that you wish had not been >shown?

    Yes, most certainly. They actually did an episode of scenes that they wanted to air, but didn't make it into their actual show. Although, I don't know about things they DIDN't want (maybe the 'frozen chicken' airplane window stuff (the FIRST flop, in the first episode.)

  495. Doing it wrong! by Beardydog · · Score: 1

    They should have tried turning it around...

  496. Repeatable Experiments Suggestion by koick · · Score: 1

    I've got one for that episode (not really a myth, but fun to see):
    -get a helium balloon
    -put it inside your car so it doesn't touch the top and has room to swing around
    -drive at 25-30mph or so
    -quickly (and safely) brake

    Does the balloon go foreward like your head? Why (or why not)?

    Okay, here's another interesting thing to see:
    -get two polarized lenses that you can overlap
    -hang an object on a string and set it swinging in a straight plane
    -now, looking at the swinging object with both eyes, hold up to one eye the two lenses and rotate them so that you can vary the darkness.

    What do you see? Why?


    !SPOILER ALERTS!

    -For the first one; the balloon will actually go backwards because helium is lighter than air and with the slight movement of airmass in the car displacing forewards, the balloon reacts by moving slightly backwards (you can see it react when you go around corners too, but not as obviously).
    -For the second one; as the one eye's amount of incoming light is decreased, the appearance of the swing will shift from a straight arc to an ellipse. I think this is a perception thing with our brains processing a brighter scene first, and therefore a timing issue being setup.

    Disclaimer: I'm no physics genius, so all my explainations may be WAY off.

  497. What Has The Show Done For You by Morrog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To Adam and/or Jamie: How do you feel making this show has impacted you, in any way? Is it something you're proud of and really enjoy doing?

  498. Which job is more fun? by jemenake · · Score: 1

    Before the MB show came along, you guys were an FX shop, and I'm figuring that you still do that as your main gig. So, which do you guys enjoy more, the FX or filming MB? Going further, how often do you have to meet some commitment for one of them (say, taping a MB episode) and wished it would just be over so that you could go back to the other one that you like more?

  499. Jamie's beard.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard that if you shave Jamie's beard it'll grow back in five minutes.. Is there a truth to this or is this a myth? PS: I'm not Adam.

  500. Rocket Car not on rails? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

    The episode recreating the "Rocket Car" myth was probably one of the first episodes I ever saw -- and boy, was I dissapointed.

    Quite obviously, there is no "correct" version of this or any other myth; but still, I was very dissapointed that one of the most renowned versions of the "Rocket Car" myth available online [1] was apparently not taken into account, or indeed even mentioned. I don't mean to sound unappreciative, but having read this fabulously detailed (and very entertaining) tale, it is hard to not to notice that the episode could have been so much, well, better.

    How come? Did you not know about this version, or did it just not suit the form of the show and the plan for the episode?

    My question(s): When selecting myths and performing busts, to what extent do you strive toward (for lack of better term) "historical accuracy", and to what extent does a good show (ie. being visually captive and not requiring too much theory or explanation) take precedence? How much proper research work goes into each myth?

    [1]: http://www.wagoneers.com/pages/RocketCar/rockit.ht ml

  501. Selection? by magisterx · · Score: 1

    How do you select which Myth's will be on the show? Is there a recurring source you often turn to? What are your criteria for the ones you will test and the ones you reject?

  502. what is a myth? by BlackShirt · · Score: 1

    is there any myths that you did'nt 'bust' because it will not look good on the Tv screen? because lack of the resources or something else is missing.

  503. No dust collector? by jemenake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the Discovery Channel's discussion forum, they solicit suggestions for bustable myths. However, they also list a littany of "don't bother suggesting these" myths that, apparently, have either been busted/confirmed already or have been ruled out. One of the items on this list is exploding woodshop dust-collectors (ignited by static electricity build-up) in PVC ducts.

    Why is this myth off-limits? It seems to have all of the MB pre-requisites: It involves something exploding or catching on fire, it's fairly easy to test, and, if you bust the myth, you can go overboard with the myth to force the phenomenon (personally, I've made a flame-thrower with a leaf-blower and a bag of flour). Most-importantly, however, is that this myth has real-world implications for how wood-workers plumb their shops for dust-collection (using PVC vs. steel ducting) unlike, say, exploding jawbreakers. Or, is that precisely *why* you guys don't do it, because it would have *such* real-world effect? Because MB might bust the myth, woodworkers across the country would plumb their shops with PVC, one of them would still somehow blow their shop up, and then sue the show?

  504. Can sneezing make your eyes pop out ? by The+Sith+Lord · · Score: 1

    I really want to know this one!
    Does sneezing with your eyes open cause them to pop out ?

  505. Evil Geniuses always.... by DeanAsh · · Score: 1
    ... try to take over the world. Always. Well, that's the myth.

    Have the Mythbusting team tried to take over the world themselves? If not, how would you do it? If so, what went wrong?

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  506. Please mod parent up by Poingggg · · Score: 1

    His link points to a site that effectively debunks all 'hoax-believers' arguments. Where are modpoints when you need them?

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  507. Keep your arms in children! by Yonsen · · Score: 1

    ok heres my Q: Will a child (or any other person for that matter) lose their arm if by that slim chance a car gets close enough to side-swipe it right off?

    1. Re:Keep your arms in children! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they will. In fact, it has happened. You might even be able to find pictures of it at http://www.ogrish.com/

  508. Too Racy or Offensive? by trumpetbruin · · Score: 1

    Most people are asking about Myths that were too dangerous, or that you were too scared to bust. I'm curious about myths that you WANTED to bust, and that you felt capable of busting, but were blocked by Discovery Channel/show producers/censors for it being too racy or politically incorrect? Corollary: If you didn't have to deal with this restriction (say, appearing on HBO or something less regulated), what myths would you consider?

    1. Re:Too Racy or Offensive? by mknewman · · Score: 1

      The Civil War Rocket episode had extensive censoring for the formula for gun cotton, which was pretty obviously very dangerous stuff.

    2. Re:Too Racy or Offensive? by Jack+Schitt · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why they censored this formula. Gun cotton is obviously less powerful than ammonium nitrate + diesel fuel. Maybe because it was created with common household ingredients? They obviously had a formula for making no2. They must have gotten it from somewhere... probably the internet. They probably just did a Google search. Chances are somebody was curious. You could probably even find the censored recipes by doing a Google search for 'Censored MythBusters Nitrous Oxide Recipe' or 'Censored MythBusters Gun Cotton Recipe'.

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  509. Kari by wylderide · · Score: 1

    How about the myth that anyone can spend time with Kari Byron and resist hitting on her? Or the myth that they'd want to resist?

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  510. Not to rain on the parade... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but modern military planes can routinely produce more than 10Gs. In fact the limiting factor isn't the planes any longer its the human pilots that fly them. A healthy, experienced pilot in a pressurized flight suit and who is trained in 'grunting' can do 9Gs...the record is 13 I think.

    In comparison an average civilian blacks out at around 6Gs.

  511. State of scientific interest in the US by paulm · · Score: 1

    Mythbusters at it's core is a show about science - "get your hands dirty, run the experiments, figure it out" science.

    How do you feel about the current trend of portions of the US moving away from understanding how apply the scientific
    method in a sort of ever expanding radius from religious topics - the latest example being the mandatory teaching of
    Intelligent Design in certain school systems. Is there a widening rift between the "intellectual elite" and
    the down to earth "Nascar Dads"? Is this simply a political trend with the current administration? Has science
    education in the school systems become dumbed down too far?

    How do we fix it?

    (aplogies for the generalizations in this comment - I know many nascar fans love science and many on the
    religious right don't love nascar, etc.)

  512. The silent short guy by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't the short guy ever speak?

    Oh, wait, wrong myth-busting show. Nevermind.

  513. Why not highlight the fundamental principles? by backdoorstudent · · Score: 1

    Why not highlight the fundamental science principles involved? For example, perhaps a myth violates conservation of energy - they could do a 30sec blip explaining it. In other words, after they do the debunking experiment they could summarize the scientific theory involved. Or they could just blow up effigies of famous scientists.

  514. Foaming Over by virg_mattes · · Score: 1

    Frankly, this works just as well with sand. Anything small and particulate will do it.

    Virg

  515. Definitely true - under the right conditions by mbessey · · Score: 1

    I had a Windows XP machine get infected by an RPC worm while I was still in the process of re-installing Windows after a hardware crash. My former employer now has a rule that you have to install at least SP2 from a CD before you can attach to the internal network at all.

    In this case, I was attached to a network subnet with multiple other machines that were already infected. In the sense that our corporate network had an active worm infstation, this is admittedly a fairly extreme case.

    At home, you're probably more likely to run into this with some sorts of broadband connections. If you don't have a NAT router or firewall, and you're on a subnet with lots of other machines, you're probably at risk.

    -Mark

  516. Nigerian Spam Scam by paulm · · Score: 1

    You should check this out - this guy from Fast Times at RMH replies to that scam. It's pretty funny.

    link

  517. Television Formulae by Quenyar · · Score: 1

    I have enjoyed your show, over the years, but it seems to me that recently you (both of you) have lost some of your interest and enthusiam in the concept and execution of the show.

    1. Do you think that this is inevitable? Do you ever feel like Uncle Don? (famous radio kid show host, for his on air gaffe: "Are we off? ...Well, that oughta hold the little bastards for a while...")
    2. Do you feel the show is becomming increasingly formulaic, relying on the same gags, jokes, and artificial hilarity? How do you fight this tendancy?
    3. Do you ever feel like you've been Elvised? - (turned from a performer into a product or from an artist into an industry)
    4. Do you ever feel that actually getting your "dream job" was a tremendous let down that let the air out of a big chunk of your life?

    Best wishes

  518. Beer? In the States? by Oldsmobile · · Score: 1

    They have beer in the USA??!?!?

    News to me bubba.

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  519. Why do some myths get tested without much thought? by sexylicious · · Score: 1

    I saw the episode where Mythbusters tested the myth of a jet engine being able to push a car around. Instead of pushing the car, the engine used burned parts of it and make it slide a bit.

    My background is in fluid mechanics, and I was wondering why the myth was disproved without researching the kinds of jet engines that are available.

    The engine used was not a high bypass turbofan. It was just a regular turbofan that you'd see on a small jet aircraft or perhaps a fighter. If some more research was done, you would have found that large planes usually use high bypass turbofans. The difference is in how much mass the engines push (which equals more thrust). I know a large airplane can push a car around, having witnessed such an event.

  520. Exploding CDs in the CD-ROM Drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FYI--Myth *not* busted. It actually happened to me, and it killed my drive...

    Anyone else had this happen to them?

  521. Any chances of seeing Geo again? by scattol · · Score: 1

    Any chances of seeing Geo again as a guest mythbuster? He was great as a JunkYard Wars specialist and did great work at mythbusting. Would love to see him again

  522. Question: Science's role in society by discordance · · Score: 1

    We have seen a great deal of controversy between science and the religious right in the media lately. What is your view on the role of religion in education, and have you ever thought taking on a religious myth-bust?

  523. Yeah, but... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    They still charge you $3 for a soda. The profit margins on soda are rediculous...

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  524. DVDs more widely available? by scattol · · Score: 1

    Are there plans to make the Mythbusters DVD more widely available like in regular DVD stores? So far I can only find them at the Discovery Store. If Monster Garage can do it, you should be able to do it too and they might even be more popular!

    I have some of season 1 and it's too bad that they aren't all 16:9 aspect ratios. The 16:9s look awsome. Much better than the image I get though cable, almost HD quality. Any plans on broadcasing on the Discovery HD?

  525. Tell the truth... by coaxial · · Score: 1

    You do this stuff at home, don't ya.? :)

  526. Question by GiantGuineaPigs · · Score: 1

    Hi Guys,
    In one of the Myths you visited, you tested some magnets to see if they kept razors sharp - Adam was very much against doing this sort of Myth. What other sort of myths do you keep away from completely and why? Is there A myth that you would like to do but can't?

  527. Idea by Argle+Bargle · · Score: 1

    You've showed time and time again what won't stop a bullet. Just what does it take to stop bullets of various calibres?

  528. Hoffa's Body by gijoel · · Score: 1

    What would you have done if you had of found Jimmy Hoffa's body at Giants Stadium?

    Would you have called the police? Or would you have just gone "Nope, nope nothing to see here. Mythbusted. Move along."

  529. Friends? by reason · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the show, Adam and Jamie seem to just barely get on. Is this an act to make it more edgy for viewers, or is it the reality of your relationship?

  530. Q: How much money would it take to get Kari naked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How much would a men's magazine have to offer Kari to get her to pose nude, and if she did so, would your opinion of her change in any way whatsoever?

  531. Battle Bots by zip0nada · · Score: 1

    Have you ever heard of the high school level of battle bots(called BBIQ)?

  532. Turkeys & Aluminum foil? by rollingrock · · Score: 1

    Is it true that if you cook a turkey covered in aluminum foil, it will be hotter if you cook with shiny side in?

  533. Science? Engineering? Technicians? by sr180 · · Score: 1
    This comment is probably too late to be moderated high enough to be seen, but here goes.

    There has been alot of criticism on Slashdot, about a lack of science on your show. In testing your myths, scientific process is often ignored, leaving major flaws in your results. The best quote I have seen from here is "They arent scientists, but engineers. Well, not really engineers, but Technicians." What is your opinion about the science used on the show, and the innaccuracies shown in alot of the experiments?

    However, despite the lack of science in the show most of us will watch it anyway, just for the explosions. :)

    Oh, and Question 2: Do you read slashdot?

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  534. SI cover curse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it true that there is a Sports Illustrated cover curse?

  535. Stich in time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does a stitch in time really save nine?

  536. Why are you so unscientific in your testing by syousef · · Score: 1

    For example you'll test one or two types of cell phone for it's ability to make petrol explode when the phone is called, then conclude that all cell phones are safe to use at the petrol pump. You do this time and time again with all your myths - conclude from one or two tests that the whole myth is bogus. I understand it's a half hour show and that you're there to entertain, but could you not take THREE minutes out of each and every show to point to more rigorous scientific studies? It would make what you do SO much more credible, and retain the entertainment zing!

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    1. Re:Why are you so unscientific in your testing by Tajas · · Score: 1

      Just had to make a couple of comments to this.

      First: One of thier first myths was about cell phones at the gas pump, so there's no need to do this, as it's already been done.

      Second: Myth Busters is a one hour long show, not a half hour long show.

      Please make sure you are actually commenting about a show you've watched fully before commenting on what you think they should do.

    2. Re:Why are you so unscientific in your testing by syousef · · Score: 1

      Just had to make a comment about this

      First: I was using an example of a show they'd already done on purpose. " For example you'll test " probably should have read " For example you've tested" but I didn't think I was being that unclear unless the aim was to flame someone without even trying to understand what they're saying.

      Second: I've actually seen it cut down to half an hour. In fact I've seen highlights of Mythbuster episodes shown as part of a larger science/technology. Also note that many episodes cover more than one myth.

      I could have worded what I said better, I grant you, and not doing so is my fault. Bottom line is I was busy with something else and wanted to comment while I had an oportunity to do so.

      My point is still valid - they can retain the entertainment factor, and actually make the show scientifically credible. My question therefore is why they've chosen not to. The show masquerades as science when the techniques they use are not scientific at all, and they devote zero time to the scientific method (controls, repeatability, showing what others have done).

      How about instead of criticising and berating me over getting the duration of their show wrong, you actually have a look at what I was trying to say. Just because the forum you're using is a message board on the net doesn't mean you can't cut a person some slack, or that you need to be rude.

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  537. What were you like as kids? by El+Micko · · Score: 1

    My 7 year old twin boys, just love your show. (They get so see cool thing destroyed, fun/clever things made, and get to go to bed later than normal after watching it as well.. all bonuses).

    So I was wondering what Adam, Jamie and the 'build team' were like as kids?
    Any good stories of childhood/adolescent 'genius' or destruction you'd like to share with slashdot?
    What would you be keeping your kids away from, what would you be encouraging them to do?

  538. Education by foldedspace · · Score: 1

    You guys have a really good thing going. Please don't fall into the professional wrestling marketoid black hole. Thank you.

    The question:
    Has working on the show prompted you (the hosts) to study up on a subject?

  539. unbound negatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its said to be impossible to prove a negative.

    It is impossible to prove an unbound negative.

    Here's some examples of both:

    1) There are no alligators in my pants. (as in another post) This is provable.
    2) There is no all-seeing all-knowing entity which hides from us. This is unprovable.

    See the difference between bound and unbound?

  540. Drill a hole? by hummassa · · Score: 1

    You are -- so -- wrong.
    The glasses are regular wine glasses, no holes drilled on them.
    They started with a tone generator, found the resonance tone of the glasses (something like 577Hz or near), amped it enough to break some glasses. Ah, they had a "sound focuser" (a piece of wood with a 1 inch hole they used in front of the speaker, at 1/2 the height of the glass), but the glasses were regular, out-of-the box glasses.
    Then Jaime Vendera (voice coach) came in, sang in the tone, amped, bang! broke some more glasses.
    Then Jamie and Adam tried (with the amp) -- Jamie couldn't break the glass (I don't know if his mustache muffled his voice, or if he couldn't get to the right tone, because his voice is so bass) but Adam broke some glasses.
    Then Vendera came and broke two or three glasses, without the amp. I don't believe Mythbusters would risk their credibility by "doctoring" the video... they could have busted the myth and things would look equally well for them.
    To be fair, Vendera held the glass less than 1 inch right in front of his mouth, which is why he did not need the "sound focuser" to break the glasses.

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  541. Jetpack myth? by neolith · · Score: 1

    Hey guys, love the show. I wonder if you ever pull stuff back off the shelf to mess with again for fun. I'm thinking in particular of the jetpack myth. You guys spent so much time on that, and seemed like you were almost there, maybe some work with the shrouds or change of props and you'd be there. And lots of other stuff, too, like high powered chicken firing air canons and civil war era rocketry. There again, the result you got in two days was amazing, I'd be tempted to put in a bit more modern engineering and go for the X-prize. Do you guys ever get an idea from a myth that you'd just like to run with for the fun of it?

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  542. Enviable Jobs by NotAnAol · · Score: 0

    Adam and Jamie,

    You guys have such enviable jobs. I can't imagine having a more interesting and exciting use of time (and to get paid for it too!!). In fact, I'm sure most of the SlashDot reading public wouldn't mind busting one myth or another especially in front of such a huge audience. (not to mention blowing stuff up)

    But, let's get to the question. When you were younger, still in the early years of school, what did you guys want to do when you grew up?

    NotAnAol - not by a longshot!

  543. Campy? Stages? by obfuscated · · Score: 1

    Dear Mythbusters,

    Do you guys realize how "campy" and staged the summary portions of the show are? The intonations in your voice really put a downer on the fun and scientific aspects of the show. Ever think about filming that segment more like a reality?

    (Not that realities aren't somewhat staged, but at least they don't seem so forced and rehearsed.)

    That, or maybe send Adam to some acting classes so it doesn't like he is feigning enthusiasm.

    Loyal Fan,
    -dan

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  544. What's the real story behind Mr. Hyneman? by neolith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wikipedia mentions in his write up that he "has a degree in Russian language and literature. He has had a variety of careers, including scuba diver, wilderness survival expert, boat captain, linguist, pet shop owner, animal wrangler, machinist and chef." Adam has (jokingly?) referred to his murky past as a special forces member, an outlaw running guns in the jungle and spending time in third world prisons. That's Adam being funny, but even the Wikipedia article sounds like hyperbole. The thing is, Jamie's such a man's man that I'd just about believe anything about him. The guy appears freakishly strong, can engineer anything, and manages to pull off the bespectacled / shaved-head / beret / moustache combo with panache. What can't he do?

    Where do you come from? How did you go from scuba and boats to special effects? And why don't you drop any Russian on us for the show?

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  545. Cow tipping by Izanagi · · Score: 1

    How many people does it really take to tip a cow?

    Recently in the news a university calculated the force required to tip a cow. I don'r believe they ever actually tried it. Lets see the truth!
    Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1858246, 00.html

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  546. Question about Buster 2.0's durability by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1
    You claim that your homebrew crash-test dummy, Buster 2.0, is unbustable. If you were to build a Buster 2.0 clone, what do you think it would take to completely bust him (ie: break him so much that nothing short of building a new Buster 2.0 would do).

    Would you be willing to do an episode to test that?

  547. Throwing in my Feedback by NotAnAol · · Score: 0

    Yeah, you should have tried a Cesna then maybe a Gulfstream. And, maybe changing cars around a bit would have worked too - Yugo, Geo, Kia, then maybe a Hummer.

    Rigorous testing - that's what we want - the 24 of myth busting. Show us all 6 months of that moss myth.

    All kidding aside, rigorous test just doesn't make for good TV most of the time. Thanks for just showing us the highlights.

    NotAnAol - not by a longshot!

  548. That time of year.. by pixysniffer · · Score: 1

    So I'm still confused; Does being cold make you sick or not?

  549. Hurricanes and windows by Announcer · · Score: 1

    Does putting adhesive tape onto windows have ANY effect on breakage if high wind or sudden air pressure changes occur?

    Thanks!

    Willie...

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  550. Buster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much of the original "Buster" is still in service? Anything beyond the name? Buster really deserves better: he/it does the dirty work, and you guys get the glory!

  551. bright ideas by suitti · · Score: 1

    It takes less energy to leave the flourescent light on than to turn it off, then back on later.

    I imaging this has to do with turing off the gym lights for five minutes between classes. The claim is that starting them back up takes alot of juice.

    My application is household 40 watt tube flourescent lights, and incandescent replacement screw-in lightbulbs. Same idea - turn it off for five minutes vs. leaving it on.

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  552. Brainiac by BigLug · · Score: 1

    Do you guys get jealous of the (ahem) "co-hosts" they have on Brainiac?

  553. You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by zbuffered · · Score: 1

    The Box O' Truth doesn't lie. Mythbusters' methods leaves a little to be desired.

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    1. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by Flaming+Foobar · · Score: 1
      The Box O' Truth doesn't lie. Mythbusters' methods leaves a little to be desired.

      Mythbusters had ballistics gel at different distances in a swimming pool. You link to a page about a guy shooting plastic water jugs. WTF?

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    2. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      Mythbusters' test assumes firing at an angle, and that the bullet leaves the barrel, travels through air for some distance, then hits the water at that angle. They did not test any other scenario, they did not "prove the myth" (actually in this case disprove by providing a worst-case scenario for the swimmer). As shown in the previous link, a perpendicular strike through water causes uniform bullet expansion, not fragmentation.

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    3. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by Flaming+Foobar · · Score: 1
      Mythbusters' test assumes firing at an angle, and that the bullet leaves the barrel, travels through air for some distance, then hits the water at that angle.

      That's because common sense tells that that is the not only the worst case scenario, but also the most likely. Why would the swimmer dive down right below the shooter? That would make absolutely no sense at all.

      As shown in the previous link, a perpendicular strike through water causes uniform bullet expansion, not fragmentation.

      There's absolutely no proof of that. The guy was shooting plastic jugs, ferchrissakes!

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    4. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      The guy was shooting plastic jugs, ferchrissakes!

      Full of water. Which is similar to the human body in density. JHPs are designed to expand in such a medium, and they do.
       
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      And if you want to reply to this post as anything other than AC, please do me the favor of dropping the attitude.

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    5. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      They addressed that a perpendicular approach would be unrealistic, and by determining the distance the bullet travels at an angle they roughly get the distance it would travel upon perpendicular entry, therefore probably getting "worst-case" scenario information without actually doing it.

      In that link, the bullet has to pass through plastic (often several layers) to get a result, meaning that not only is the test different than the Mythbusters' test, but the test conditions vary from calibre to calibre! His results are interesting but they do not refute, contradict or support anything the Mythbusters tried to do because the test conditions are different.

    6. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      Point well taken. His informal tests show that clothing has much more effect on the bullet than the plastic. I believe that due to the nature of plastic-how it fails-that it would have a minimal effect on bullet penetration.

      Mainly, however, I disagree with Mythbusters' stipulation that bullets would only come from an angle. Jumping off of bridges or out of boats are two scenarios that come to mind where a bullet could strike vertically. What I would have preferred they test in addition to the different calibers was different angles and their relative effects on the same caliber bullet.

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    7. Re:You'll love this site--ain't retirement great? by ibbey · · Score: 1

      As shown in the previous link, a perpendicular strike through water causes uniform bullet expansion, not fragmentation.

      Ummm... I'm not a gun nut, but the link that you point out seems to show that -hollow-point- bullets expand uniformly. This in no way disproves the Mythbusters findings. In fact, contrary to what you say, the only bullets that fragmented were fired from high-powered rifles. The bullets shot from handguns consistently reached much deeper depths.

      You're right, the Mythbusters are notorious for playing a little fast and loose with the scientific method. But before you point to evidence that the Mythbusters are wrong, you should make sure that the evidence is actually relevant. Their conclusion may be wrong, but your evidence does nothing to prove it.

  554. Ever gotten in trouble with "higher powers"? by Chanticrow · · Score: 1

    Have you ever been "busted" or otherwise investigated by the Feds, local police, etc, during a myth busting in such a way that the event was unairable?

  555. Evidence of ancient life on the moon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about this? This site claims that the Apollo missions found evidence of fossilized life on the lunar surface. Myth or no myth?

  556. I love arrow splitters! by elocutio · · Score: 1

    Youre comment is about arrow splitters, REAL ARROW SPLITTERS. Youre comment is awesome. My name is Robert and I can't stop thinking about arrow splitters. You are cool, and by cool, I mean totally sweet.

    Facts:
    1. You are a mammal.
    2. You split arrows ALL the time.
    3. The purpose of arrow splitters like YOU is to flip out and kill people.

    You can split any arrow you want! You split arrows ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. Arrow splitters like YOU are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this arrow splitter who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a match book the arrow splitter split the whole matches. My friend Mark said that he saw an arrow shooter totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.

    And that's what I call REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!

    If you don't believe that arrow splitters like YOU have REAL Ultimate Power you better get a life right now or you will split your own arrows! It's an easy choice, if you ask me.

    Arrow splitters like YOU are soooooooo sweet that I want to crap my pants. I can't believe it sometimes, but I feel it inside my heart. Arrow splitters like YOU are totally awesome, and that's a fact.

  557. In all Seriousness... by Firewheels · · Score: 1

    I've been busted on more than once while watching the show with criticisms that you're just 'boys with their toys'. Personally, I think you go to great lengths to show just why we shouldn't 'do this at home'.

    How would you respond?

  558. Buster 2.0 by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

    You claim that your homebrew crash-test dummy, Buster 2.0, is unbustable. If you were to build a Buster 2.0 clone, what do you think it would take to completely bust him (ie: break him so much that nothing short of building a new Buster 2.0 would do). Would you be willing to do an episode to test that?

  559. What do the authorities think? by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    My wife is terribly interested in what the police and/or fire department think of you guys. They seem to be featured on the show on a semiregular basis, and we suspect that the fire inspector gets the willies every time he comes by.

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  560. Can I work for you guys?! by spamster · · Score: 1

    Coolest......bosses......ever!

  561. Mathematical proofs by Lord+Maud'Dib · · Score: 1

    I've always wondered why they don't disprove some myths at the beginning with a simple calculation. So here goes my question:

    "Why don't you ever back up your experiments with a mathematical proof? A lot of times there's a relatively simple calculation that could save a lot of physical exertion and cost in building a rig. Of course Jamie won't get an opportunity to screw up or build some over elaborate machine, but heh.
  562. urban myth by elmurado · · Score: 1

    A friend of a friend told me that he had been on holiday and when he came back and developed his roll of film he found a picture with two guys in their hotel bathroom with my friend and his wifes' toothbrushes stuck up their rectums. Could you disprove this as my friend is a real know-it-all. Thanks

  563. Corporate myths by Elephant8 · · Score: 1

    Hey guys, I've loved your show since the first season. Keep going. Were there myths which you seriously considered busting on the show, but were nixed not due to safety issues, but rather, to liability concerns or fear of being sued by outside parties which might disagree with your methods and/or conclusions? For example, if there really were a way to reliably beat police radar, (or any other such myth) would you ever put it on the show? Have you ever tried to replicate the results of a standards body (e.g. ANSI - steel toed boots) but actually come up with a different conclusion? Has there been a myth where you seriously took an existing test standard to task and thus caused it to change?

  564. Question by Zibi · · Score: 1

    This may have been already asked in the some 1300 comments prior to mine, but: Where did you intially come up with the idea and motivation to bust common myths?

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  565. Entertainment by UberWhack · · Score: 1

    Do you find it annoying when self-important prats point out everything that they found wrong with the recreation of a myth instead of just enjoying the show?

  566. Location(s) by Cef · · Score: 1

    Is there any specific location or country you'd like to go to do a show? Mainly to debunk a myth that developed in that region of the world, or even just because you think it's a nice place?

  567. Walking / running in the rain by hedleyroos · · Score: 1

    Is it better to walk or run in the rain? Which keeps you drier?

  568. Let's blow something up... by purplepete · · Score: 1

    One of the things Mythbusters is best known for is blowing stuff up (especially if it's not doing what you want it to ;-) If you had the opportunity, what object would you most like to blow to smithereens?

  569. Timeline of a myth by trialex · · Score: 1

    Hi. Firstly thanks for the great show - it is always the talking point at work the day after it is shown here on Australian TV. Sometimes during the major myths, you guys seem to be running out of time - usually something to which Adam is often more stressed about. My question then is what is a typical timeline for a major myth? How would it generally take to go through the planning, build, testing and filming phases? Again thanks heaps for the great show, Alex

  570. A saying to bust by Wolfsbane_1 · · Score: 1

    My saying to bust is "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence". Thank-you.

  571. Re:Carol Burnett.... by shotgunefx · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, my friend moved and I found this elongated Coke bottle in the new house in the oven. Figure it was stretched to about twice it's normal length.

    Anyway, being 9 or 10, it seemed cool. When I got it home, I put it on the mantel and there it stayed.

    One day, a commercial for the Carol Burnett show was playing. I think she was supposed to be in jail, she let out this loud "LAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH" in a parody of an opera singer.

    Sure enough, the bottle (behind us) shattered scaring the hell out of me and my grandmother. I suppose the glass having been reheated and stretched thin didn't help it.

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  572. Airport hidden bomb detection by sory139 · · Score: 1

    Would airport security detect C4 (or any other kind of explosive) hidden inside a sealed metal deodorant spray? I mean, if the container is really clean (no traces of C4 outside)...

  573. engineering/science background by multicsfan · · Score: 1

    Does anyone on the show have an engineering/science degree? I like the show. I ask as I often see many common mistakes in testing methods made on the show. One that comes to mind is the A/C vs open windows.

    Even when you use 2 vehicles that are supposed to be identical, there can be small differences that can affect this type of test. To more accuratly check this it seems that the best way would be to fill both vehicles at the same gas pump until the nozzle clicks. Run a 200 to 250 mile test loop and refill both vehicles to find the gas used. then repeat the test with the A/C vs open windows reversed on the vehicles so both vehicles run the loop in both situations.

    In the swimming underwater to avoid getting shot I think it would have been useful to do some additional tests. One would be to vary the angle of the gun in relation to the water. Another might be to drop a large mass in the water just before shooting to see if the large mass (person diving) affects the surface tension enough to change the results,

  574. Civil war rocket by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    Dudes, how come you used no2 and paraphin? They did have peroxide back then and they could have used kerosene, or perhaps whale oil. Please don't test fire this in your lab again. NASA does it in an open range for a reason. A chamber failure could have been a disaster.

  575. Scotty? by daringone · · Score: 1

    Where did Scotty go?

  576. Re:Build Team [Requisite Python Quote] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet you're gay!


    But really. Kari's part of the build team. Kari's hot. So you must be either gay, or a woman (and not gay).

  577. Hefaistos by hummassa · · Score: 1

    That's why he was ugly as sin. To compensate him, Zeus gave him Aphrodite to marry (even though she was technically his sister, but...)

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    1. Re:Hefaistos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, in most of the myths I recall, Hephaestos was Hera's son, because she was pissed at Zeus for sleeping with anything he could catch. So she gave birth to him by herself, without his help (hey, she's a goddess)

      And Aphrodite was born from where Uranus (Zeus's Granddaddy)'s genitals hit the ocean, out of the "foam" in the sea, so she was more sort of Hephaestos's great aunt, rather than his sister.

      Not that that stopped her from screwing around on ole Heph with her OTHER nephew, Ares...

      Gotta love those incesteous Greek Gods. Makes our soap operas look tame.

    2. Re:Hefaistos by The_Rook · · Score: 1

      if you want to see something that makes sopa operas look tame, try wagner's ring of the nibelung. it's got incest, rape, theft, murder, slavery, and fratricide. and that's just the first opera.

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  578. ask the mythbusters by tsimmons1 · · Score: 1

    What happened to Scottie the Mythtern? I haven't seen her in awhile...

  579. They do that sometimes, by hummassa · · Score: 1

    and IIRC they couldn't bust nor confirm the story about the Rio taxi ... which BTW is true (the street that passes in the affected area has a semaphore that goes red whenever a jet will takeoff, eliminating the danger: the taxi passed the red light and flipped away).

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  580. Auto related myths... by Osmodious · · Score: 1


    Maybe more a request than a question...there are many automobile related myths, some of which you have explored on your show (which I love, by the way)...however, you don't seem to have any auto enthusiasts on your staff. I think this would make a huge difference, as some of the auto-related myths you have explored and experienced 'surprise results' were completely obvious to myself and other enthusiasts (pickup truck tailgate drag, windows open vs. A/C, etc.)...it would also help cover all the bases on some of the others (the 'axle ripped from police car' never took into account the huge differences in vehicle design and materials over 40 years, for example). Of course, the question of what constitutes an enthusiast might pop up...it's not just someone who 'likes cars', or is a mechanic (or even engineer/designer), it's the person who has a ton of general automotive knowledge (ah, you probably know one or two).
    Thanks!

  581. Re:Will the new San Francisco gun laws change show by GigsVT · · Score: 1

    You mean for the all of 5 minutes before the law is declared unconstitutional?

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  582. Running out of Myths by soiledsilver · · Score: 1

    Do you find you are running out of Myths to test? Any chance Discovery might screw you (and us) and cancel the show due to lack of things to test?

  583. Mythbusters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the Amittyville Horror Real OR Myth??

  584. Any myths the network won't let you have a go at? by jeffpostcn · · Score: 1

    Excellent Question!!! I vote for this one

  585. Communities and change in interests? by WOV · · Score: 1

    You both started off as Effects Guys. Now, you're the focal point for a community of scientists, engineers, and technologists that may not be the one you originally came from. What's more, that community is very active, and I would imagine demanding, and you're all of a sudden its poster children. What's more, there is a nascent backlash against those who owuld explain everything using purely empirical methods. Not to exaggerate the importance of a cable science show, = ), but what is it like going from Effects Guy to this very public, potentially freighted role?

  586. New Material by Mitaphane · · Score: 1

    I know there are a lot of popular, well-known myths out there to bust(like that one myth about soda being able to rot teeth given enough time). But it seems as the guys show goes on and on, it would be tougher to find good myths to bust. How do you look for good myths to bust that make for good television?

  587. Ping Pong Balls by n8twj · · Score: 1

    What did you guys do with all of the Ping Pong balls?

  588. Q for J and A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any myth you guys absolutely refuse to be involved with? If so, why?

  589. Donkey and carrot by nerdwithagun · · Score: 1

    Can you dangle a carrot infront of a donkey to keep it walking. I think it may be a disney creation. It unfortunately doesnt involve blowing anything up, and it doesnt even sound very scientific, but if you can test playing music to plants, then why not this? and fun and hijinks could be had by all.

  590. What about your feedback? by Revenge013 · · Score: 1

    What kind of responses do you receive from people who are trying to bust the Mythbusters? For example, during the "Lethal Playing Card" episode, you had an author of a book whose topic was exactly the myth you were trying to bust. The man is obviously trying to make an income based upon the myth; yet, y'all are trying to disprove it with him present. I can only imagine that there are people who write in to say, "You did it wrong! You should have done it like this!" Thanks for your time, and keep rockin!

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  591. Straight as an arrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't the straight grain the whole point? Back before dowels were milled, people smoothed wood with things like spoke shaves. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, it was easiest to start a straight arrow with a straight piece of wood?
    The odds of perfectly straight wood grain in an arrow are hardly one in a brazillion when pre-industrial manufacture favored straight grained material.

  592. I download (legally) by Harald+Paulsen · · Score: 1

    I actually download Mythbusters almost exclusively.

    Because:
    1: It's legal here in Norway (well, it was, they're talking about changing the law)
    2: I subscribe to cable so I actually pay for discovery channel.

    I did try to watch a few episodes on the TV but the last time I checked in they had another voice-over which totally changed the way the show felt. Imagine someone reading a transcript of the american announcer and bingo, you got it. Totally rubbish.

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    Harald
  593. Why aren't you using SI units? by mikek3332002 · · Score: 1

    What is the reason for not usuing SI units, when you pretend to be scientists?

    Why don't you have subtitles with the metric conversion for the countries that work with metric units?

  594. Are the Mythbusters gay? Read this article ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  595. Proof? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    How can a failure really be considered a 'busted myth'? It only shows that it didnt work for you, at that moment.

    90% of the "failures" actually appear to be possible under a different situation.

    Still, its an entertaining show.

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  596. Bust the barrel of bricks vs. man story by dwhite21787 · · Score: 1
    Everyone has heard this one:
    Guy on ground has buddy push barrel of bricks from roof, while he holds the end of the rope.
    Barrel lifts man, cracking his skull as it passes, man's fingers catch in pulley, barrel hits ground and breaks open.
    Man falls down, breaking leg on rising barrel, breaking back on pile of bricks, then lets go of the rope in pain.
    Barrel falls on man.

    I would *love* to see Buster confirm or bust that story.

    --
    "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" - Will Rogers
  597. Interview with Kari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You might enjoy the following interview with Kari Byron
    http://www.joe-mammy.com/pages/features/kari-byron /kari-byron.htm

    Posted Anonymously because I really want this moderated up.

  598. Crashing trucks. by sbaker · · Score: 1

    In the Mythbusters book, there is a list of "The 12 myths that you'll probably never see broken on Mythbusters". Some of them are obviously untestable ("Does your soul weigh 21 grams?").

    Number six on the list says: "Flat VW: Is it possible that a flattened VW bug was found between a head-on collision of two massive semi trucks."

    Well, that seems *AWFULLY* similar to the show I saw this evening. I'd like to hear the process by which this changed status from impossible to actually happening? Why did you change the myth to require that the trucks would be fused together - and most important: Why didn't you use a VW bug? How can we expect any scientific validity without a squished bug?

    I *really* want to see you do "Birds in a Truck" though - "Can a truckload of 1000 pigeons cause a truck to levitate if it hits a bump?"....well, how about "Does the truck weigh less if you bang on the sides to make them all fly around inside?" (Yeah - I know the answer).

    Great show though - the world needs more entertaining science on TV.

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    www.sjbaker.org
  599. Full Disclosure by hibachi · · Score: 1

    Love the show, I have serious job envy.

    Over here in computerland, we have a concept known as full disclosure, regarding computer security vulnerabilities. The idea is that full disclosure benefits all users of computers better than concealment, as disclosure creates the impetus to have those vulnerabilities fixed. Full disclosure works great in the realm of computer and network security, but maybe not so well in broadcast television with materials that go *boom*.

    In Mythbusters you are testing conventional wisdom, and this could potentially lead to discovering serious flaws in household items, unintended dangerous uses of common materials, or means of circumventing the law. A couple of obvious myths that potentially fall into the latter category are the attempts to circumvent radar guns and the breathalyzer. I wonder what the show's philosophy is around disclosure of controversial information. Had you discovered a way of circumventing the breathalyzer, would it have made it to air, or would that have been kept off broadcast? As a corollary, have there been any myths that failed to make it to air because your discovery was too controversial or too great a liability if the information "fell into the wrong hands"?

  600. Re:Will the new San Francisco gun laws change show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    City of x million residents where x = 0.74. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_francisco

  601. Re:Will the new San Francisco gun laws change show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure that none of the shows where they busted gun myths were actually shot in San Francisco. A quick Google search for shooting ranges in San Francisco show no ranges within the city limits. And to outsiders: South San Francisco is a different city/county than San Francisco.

    Unless, of course, the chicken gun is covered by the law.

  602. How did Jamie and Adam start out? by phrackwulf · · Score: 1

    Where did each of the myth-busters start out careerwise? I went into materials science because we get to deal with the strangest ass stuff this side of particle physics and materials testing because it fit my personality and lets me get payed to break stuff.

    --
    What would Richard Feynman do, if he were here right now? He'd do some math and he'd follow through!
  603. LD50 for Weed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you try to bust the myth that there's no LD50 for weed? I for one would like to volunteer to be a human test subject.....

  604. Another Myth? by Shane92821 · · Score: 1
    I heard that a lady was using an excessive amount of hair spray along with a blow dryer. The heat coil in the blow dryer lit the hair spray fumes on fire and quickly traced back to the can. After the flame reached the can it continued to burn the stream of flame until it ended up going into the can. The fire melted the little plastic valve therefore allowing oxygen to mix with the hair spray. After the hairspray and oxygen mixed they were ignited and the can blew up killing the lady.

    I forget where I heard this but I always thought it would be cool to watch
    you guys test it...
    You know, Blow up different cans of hairspray and see if one could kill you.

  605. Watch the show by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 1

    I have a feeling most people commenting on this particular "myth" didn't even watch the show.

    For the record, they split a lot of arrows, just not perfectly down the middle of the shaft.

    They also showed that, in flight, arrows "wobble" due to their own maleability (they bend when they're fired, and then oscillate in flight). This wobble makes it virtually impossible for an arrow head to travel in a straigth line.

    Even when driving an arrow straight into another one (inside a narrow pipe, with no wobble), the split followed the wood grain, which is almost never perfectly straight

    The myth was that Robin Hood was so good he could deliberately and consistently split arrows down the middle. Given the facts above that myth was busted.

    If you use a different material, perfectly rigid arrows, etc., it's perfectly possible to split an arrow down the middle. But that's not the myth they were testing.

    MythBusters does get a lot of things wrong, and often shows a complete lack of scientific understanding, but in this case they were quite thorough and quite precise.

    RMN
    ~~~

  606. Retrial by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 1

    If someone sends you detailed instructions on how to bust a myth you confirmed, or on how to confirm a myth that you busted, will you do a new segment, correcting your previous verdict? Has this ever happened (I never saw it, but I missed a couple of shows)?

    Also, have you ever reached a similar conclusion yourselves (i.e., after watching the show, thought "can't believe we overlooked X - our verdict was wrong")?

    RMN
    ~~~

  607. Current Issue Skeptic has Mythbuster Interview by Ringthane · · Score: 1

    They nabbed the cover, too. No excerpts on the website for their interview, tho... The interview is excellent, and it answers a lot of the questions posed by folks here. Link to the Skeptic site follows:

    http://www.skeptic.com/index.html

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    Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies...
  608. One for the mythbuster crew by rezulir · · Score: 1

    The myth of the jet engine giving a taxi a very bad ride, which your producer's "insurance" company would not allow you guys to test properly, was one of my more favorite segments. What does it do to Jamie and Adam when they see things like this website video clip: http://www.wimp.com/crosswinds/ , do you guys ever get ticked off that other shows seem to be able to do things you guys could have done much better? But I have to admit this is one choice viddy. Found it on Digg.com so all hail "bns12198901" the hero who posted the goods.

  609. Homemade Cooper Cooler by ibbey · · Score: 1

    You can create the homemade equivalent of a Cooper Cooler with simply a cooler or bucket of ice (or better yet the ice water/salt mix recommended by the Mythbusters), a wire coat hanger & a cordless drill. Straighten the coat hanger, bend one end through the tab of the beer or wrap it around & tape it to the top of the bottle. Insert the other end into the drill. Spin the beer rapidly in the ice for 1-2 minutes. Works great & basically free if you already have the drill.

  610. Re:busting myths mistakenly / spli arrow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i've seen it happen when i was younger. the son of my old martial arts instructor (cira age 8) ran a summer daycare type thing out of his studio. his son actually got a second aluminum tube arrow stuck down the shaft of the first. the first arrow was quite split in an irregular pattern but it managed to hold the second arrow in place quite well. we were all impressed. looking back now i have no idea why in hell my parents allowed me to go along and shoot arrows at that age. but then i guess they had already paid.