Yeah, MS Virtual Earth (which is what Microsoft Live Maps is a derivative of) integrates with.NET... so stick with it and you can benefit from code reuse.
Yeah, had I stuck with CS or gone more of a mechanical engineering I'd have gone UW-Madison... I have a few friends who went through the UW system, one at MATC, but although UW has a mechanical engineering department they don't get into the aerospace-y stuff. I love computers but I see them more as a means to an end than the end themselves. I have the best of both worlds nowadays, I write computer simulations in c++/FORTRAN (ugh), so I get to do both.
so where exactly are you in the great state of cheese, bratwurst and beer?
Essentially, they spent countless millions on something that is going nowhere and their revenue stream continues to come from a product that has already been established. Since the stock market is forward looking, this completely shakes investor confidence that MS management knows their head from their arse.
Revenue is up 15% from last year.
Operating income is up 12% from last year. Our revenue growth was driven primarily by licensing of the 2007 Microsoft Office system and Windows Vista, both of which became generally available in January 2007, and increased revenue associated with SQL Server, Windows Server, and client access license suites. Foreign currency exchange rates accounted for a $231 million or a two percentage point increase in revenue.
Our operating income growth was driven primarily by the increased revenue and decreased costs for legal settlements and legal contingencies, partially offset by increased cost of revenue associated with Xbox 360 and Windows Vista and increased sales and marketing expenses
They attribute increased income, in part, to Vista. I'm not sure who I believe, you or them...
If the market wants Windows XP, let them buy it until there isn't enough plastic left on Earth to mint another CD.
Hey... you can still buy brand new copies of Windows 3.11. This is just the point at which they stop pumping copies out to market. Ten years from now, there will still be copies of OEM XP floating around for less than what you make before lunch. You are majoring in the minors...
What are you doing to your windows computers? Mine stays up for months at a time. Dual core AMD, windows xp x64. I'm running a WAMP stack, skype, and play a MMORPG... what are you doing wrong? Or maybe you shoud just admit that you don't know how to admin a windows box like you do a linux machine. Maybe that is the difference.
Univerisity of Alabama - Huntsville in Huntsville, AL; the birthplace of our space program and home to Redstone Arsenal / Marshall Space Flight Center (where I now work). I wanted to go to school for Aerospace Engineering. Once you start looking for the 'good schools', you really narrow down to just a couple, and this honestly is one of them. Purdue is another good one but huge, Embry-Riddle is good but they tend to focus more on flight and I liked space more. They offered me the best scholarship (I applied to all three), so I went. Really, Huntsville proper isn't that bad of a place, and honestly its a northern town in the south. The church I attend (Lutheran) has more people natively from the Midwest than from the south. I have coworkers from all over the US. I met my Wisconsinite wife... in Huntsville, AL. We grew up 150 miles apart but it took living 750 miles from our parents to find each other. But venture far from Huntsville and you do get typical Alabama: there was a KKK demonstration last week in Decatur (20 miles away, granted, more protestors than demonstrators but still) and up through the 90's there were anti-black billboards in Cullman, AL (30 miles south, I am told, predates my existance) and there are places to this day where fellow students told me it isn't safe for a minority to be at night. You can't buy cigarettes till you are 19.
I will give them one thing though. Property taxes are abysmally low compared to WI. I pay $450 a year on a house valued at $155,000 (4 bedroom, 1850sqft on 1/3 acre in the suburbs... would be hard pressed to get a house that cheap up north)... and the cost of living is cheap. Except for dairy products of course:P but yea. We do miss WI.
NetwurX out in Hartford. I worked there from 1997-2000 until I left for college in (insert expletive here) alabama:P I was so homesick for the Midwest for the longest time. Cheese, bratwurst and the Packers, man no on down here understands:) Wife and I still talk about moving back from time to tiem but I can't get a job in my line of work.
Right but then you have to open source your project (gotta love that viral GPL) and now your interfaces are wide open... again, Tom Tom is more than a piece of hardware and I gotta believe they have a vested interest in keeping their software closed (read some of the other threads, other people have said points I won't bother to repeat)
The sense of entitlement that some people show around here is staggering.
Dude. Did you even read my post? I said,
"You can say tough shit, and I'd agree, employer has that right."
It is their resource. However, education tends to work better than locking people away from useful resources (I'm an engineer... the internet is a great resource for work, I'd be very less productive without it). And its a nice perk.
Well I am even pickier, I want blonde masseuses at my disposal for my lunch break, as well as the massages provided in rooms with plasma TVs and free drinks.
Actually I had all those perks in high school:) I worked for an ISP in Wisconsin. Free soft drinks. (we also had a pizza oven, microwave and a charcoal grill on the loading dock) Break room didn't have a plasma (we're talking late 90's) but did have a nice sized CRT TV with console and video games (and a company Quake server). No 'official' masseuse, but my girlfriend worked the next station over, same hours, blonde, and did come over from time to time to rub my back when the call volume wasn't too high. And unlike a company masseuse I could touch her without getting fired. So Nyah!:)
Presuming that is an option, releasing something they can't/won't support is generally considered a Bad Thing by most people. The overwhelming public perception would probably swing negative...
At 14B revenue this past quarter (that's more than 1B/week) and over 4.9B profit this quarter, I think they are doing OK, even with vista 'tanking' and XBOX360 selling for less than manufacturing costs... and they are predicting double-digit revenue growth for next year.
yeah, got a Sempron 3500+ notebook with Vista on it, decided to partition the hard drive and stick XP on it, I only play 1 game (everquest) but with the Sempron figured it would tank... I was suprised when it performed as well under Vista as XP.
Same with programming in C++. I can't tell a noticeable difference between Vista and XP. Turn off the transitions from minimizing/maximizing/etc. and its damn snappy. I don't boot into XP, there is no need. Pleasantly suprised.
Amazon.com? Direct from the distributer? We live in the twenty first century... and I grew up in the Midwest. (rural Wisconsin, Iowa and South Dakota for the first 18 years of my life)
Because some of us don't spend the $5-$10 to go out to lunch ( I pack a lunch, saves money, healthier, etc), and prefer to spend our lunch hour checking the news online? Sure, during business hours while working that makes sense, maybe, but during my breaks and lunch (both of which I'm free to take when I want) I like to go online and do stuff. So that becomes problematic. Honestly the solution is education. Having good enough resources on the local network so that your users don't have to use gmail or a ftp site is key, and making sure they know how to use them.
You can say tough shit, and I'd agree, employer has that right. But then I'd counter by saying I'd probably be keeping an eye open for a new employer:)
Take NC-17 movies - no theater will show them because they fear publicity. That's censorship as well.
Then if I refuse to watch a movie in my own house (for whatever reason... maybe complete ignorance of the movie's existence is the only reason), is that censorship? By your definition, it is, solely because I didn't allow it to exist. You are just watering down the word censorship, soon it becomes meaningless. What you describe above is simply a business decision. Don't like the decision? Find a business that will support your stance.
Keep in mind though that Red Hat is significantly larger than Novell. They do more Linux business in the first place, so a smaller percentage growth is more significant.
Not really. Percentages are percentages. Growth normalized to the size of the company. They may have had more business, but they had more to start with.
Also, note the wording in the article. They have netted $100M in new business, above and beyond what they were attaining before the deal (which granted wasn't all that hot).
Another indicator - go compare Novell and Red Hat from Nov 2nd of last year to today - Novell stock is up 30%, Red Hat 21%. Go compare novell and red hat for a 1 year period before that (they are in a dead heat). Or a 2 year period before that (Red Hat up 40%). Theres a definite momentum shift in Novell's direction.
64% vs. 243%... slightly different orders of magnitude. Note both articles make different attributions to success: Novell to subscriptions and Red Hat to overseas expansion, particularly in Japan.
The thing that irks me is that copyright and freak outs like this are about forcing us to consume, making us pay for something over and over and over again cause it can easily be replicated and the maker can get rich beyond their dreams. Well go for it, all the more power to them, all copyright and pirating headaches do for me is make me not consume the music, movies, or content, Then I might actually go outside again makes no difference to me.
Consumers do not have an innate right to consume music/movies/etc. That is one part of the equation many people miss. While I do feel the MPAA/RIAA are overbearing and abusive, this does not counter the first statement. We as consumers have no inherant right to their product.
To that point, I have not purchased a CD since high school, since I feel the cost to benefit ratio is high. Nor have I pirated one in 5+ years. I can count the number of movies I've rented this year on one hand, and the number of moves I've been to a theatre for this year? 1.
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Yeah, MS Virtual Earth (which is what Microsoft Live Maps is a derivative of) integrates with .NET... so stick with it and you can benefit from code reuse.
Yeah, had I stuck with CS or gone more of a mechanical engineering I'd have gone UW-Madison ... I have a few friends who went through the UW system, one at MATC, but although UW has a mechanical engineering department they don't get into the aerospace-y stuff. I love computers but I see them more as a means to an end than the end themselves. I have the best of both worlds nowadays, I write computer simulations in c++/FORTRAN (ugh), so I get to do both.
so where exactly are you in the great state of cheese, bratwurst and beer?
Essentially, they spent countless millions on something that is going nowhere and their revenue stream continues to come from a product that has already been established. Since the stock market is forward looking, this completely shakes investor confidence that MS management knows their head from their arse.
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Armchair all you want, but
Microsoft's 2007 FY financials
scroll down to 'financial highlights':
Revenue is up 15% from last year.
Operating income is up 12% from last year.
Our revenue growth was driven primarily by licensing of the 2007 Microsoft Office system and Windows Vista, both of which became generally available in January 2007, and increased revenue associated with SQL Server, Windows Server, and client access license suites. Foreign currency exchange rates accounted for a $231 million or a two percentage point increase in revenue.
Our operating income growth was driven primarily by the increased revenue and decreased costs for legal settlements and legal contingencies, partially offset by increased cost of revenue associated with Xbox 360 and Windows Vista and increased sales and marketing expenses
They attribute increased income, in part, to Vista. I'm not sure who I believe, you or them
If the market wants Windows XP, let them buy it until there isn't enough plastic left on Earth to mint another CD.
... you can still buy brand new copies of Windows 3.11. This is just the point at which they stop pumping copies out to market. Ten years from now, there will still be copies of OEM XP floating around for less than what you make before lunch. You are majoring in the minors...
Hey
What are you doing to your windows computers? Mine stays up for months at a time. Dual core AMD, windows xp x64. I'm running a WAMP stack, skype, and play a MMORPG... what are you doing wrong? Or maybe you shoud just admit that you don't know how to admin a windows box like you do a linux machine. Maybe that is the difference.
although in your case, given your apparent lake of experience with the things
:)
Damn, you lay the sarcasm on thick
All I gotta say is, the amish are gonna pwn us all.
Univerisity of Alabama - Huntsville in Huntsville, AL; the birthplace of our space program and home to Redstone Arsenal / Marshall Space Flight Center (where I now work). I wanted to go to school for Aerospace Engineering. Once you start looking for the 'good schools', you really narrow down to just a couple, and this honestly is one of them. Purdue is another good one but huge, Embry-Riddle is good but they tend to focus more on flight and I liked space more. They offered me the best scholarship (I applied to all three), so I went. Really, Huntsville proper isn't that bad of a place, and honestly its a northern town in the south. The church I attend (Lutheran) has more people natively from the Midwest than from the south. I have coworkers from all over the US. I met my Wisconsinite wife ... in Huntsville, AL. We grew up 150 miles apart but it took living 750 miles from our parents to find each other. But venture far from Huntsville and you do get typical Alabama: there was a KKK demonstration last week in Decatur (20 miles away, granted, more protestors than demonstrators but still) and up through the 90's there were anti-black billboards in Cullman, AL (30 miles south, I am told, predates my existance) and there are places to this day where fellow students told me it isn't safe for a minority to be at night. You can't buy cigarettes till you are 19.
... would be hard pressed to get a house that cheap up north) ... and the cost of living is cheap. Except for dairy products of course :P but yea. We do miss WI.
:)
I will give them one thing though. Property taxes are abysmally low compared to WI. I pay $450 a year on a house valued at $155,000 (4 bedroom, 1850sqft on 1/3 acre in the suburbs
Go packers!
NetwurX out in Hartford. I worked there from 1997-2000 until I left for college in (insert expletive here) alabama :P I was so homesick for the Midwest for the longest time. Cheese, bratwurst and the Packers, man no on down here understands :) Wife and I still talk about moving back from time to tiem but I can't get a job in my line of work.
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But it is all good
Right but then you have to open source your project (gotta love that viral GPL) and now your interfaces are wide open ... again, Tom Tom is more than a piece of hardware and I gotta believe they have a vested interest in keeping their software closed (read some of the other threads, other people have said points I won't bother to repeat)
The sense of entitlement that some people show around here is staggering.
... the internet is a great resource for work, I'd be very less productive without it). And its a nice perk.
:) I worked for an ISP in Wisconsin. Free soft drinks. (we also had a pizza oven, microwave and a charcoal grill on the loading dock) Break room didn't have a plasma (we're talking late 90's) but did have a nice sized CRT TV with console and video games (and a company Quake server). No 'official' masseuse, but my girlfriend worked the next station over, same hours, blonde, and did come over from time to time to rub my back when the call volume wasn't too high. And unlike a company masseuse I could touch her without getting fired. So Nyah! :)
Dude. Did you even read my post? I said,
"You can say tough shit, and I'd agree, employer has that right."
It is their resource. However, education tends to work better than locking people away from useful resources (I'm an engineer
Well I am even pickier, I want blonde masseuses at my disposal for my lunch break, as well as the massages provided in rooms with plasma TVs and free drinks.
Actually I had all those perks in high school
#define KISS LIP_CONTACT
done! (godamn motherfucking lameness filter is to blame for the profanity)
Presuming that is an option, releasing something they can't/won't support is generally considered a Bad Thing by most people. The overwhelming public perception would probably swing negative...
Qt is expensive, and is licensed per developer, not per project. .NET is (essentially) free, and in many ways a lot better ... (I've used both)
but the school is the University of Alabama in Huntsville. w00t!
At 14B revenue this past quarter (that's more than 1B/week) and over 4.9B profit this quarter, I think they are doing OK, even with vista 'tanking' and XBOX360 selling for less than manufacturing costs... and they are predicting double-digit revenue growth for next year.
yeah, got a Sempron 3500+ notebook with Vista on it, decided to partition the hard drive and stick XP on it, I only play 1 game (everquest) but with the Sempron figured it would tank ... I was suprised when it performed as well under Vista as XP.
Same with programming in C++. I can't tell a noticeable difference between Vista and XP. Turn off the transitions from minimizing/maximizing/etc. and its damn snappy. I don't boot into XP, there is no need. Pleasantly suprised.
Now, keep in mind there are third party drivers, but you'd think that those Linux developers they have need to print occasionally.
Internal devs can put up with a beta print driver. Cannon will not support a beta print driver. Make sense now?
Amazon.com? Direct from the distributer? We live in the twenty first century ... and I grew up in the Midwest. (rural Wisconsin, Iowa and South Dakota for the first 18 years of my life)
Because some of us don't spend the $5-$10 to go out to lunch ( I pack a lunch, saves money, healthier, etc), and prefer to spend our lunch hour checking the news online? Sure, during business hours while working that makes sense, maybe, but during my breaks and lunch (both of which I'm free to take when I want) I like to go online and do stuff. So that becomes problematic. Honestly the solution is education. Having good enough resources on the local network so that your users don't have to use gmail or a ftp site is key, and making sure they know how to use them.
:)
You can say tough shit, and I'd agree, employer has that right. But then I'd counter by saying I'd probably be keeping an eye open for a new employer
Take NC-17 movies - no theater will show them because they fear publicity. That's censorship as well.
... maybe complete ignorance of the movie's existence is the only reason), is that censorship? By your definition, it is, solely because I didn't allow it to exist. You are just watering down the word censorship, soon it becomes meaningless. What you describe above is simply a business decision. Don't like the decision? Find a business that will support your stance.
Then if I refuse to watch a movie in my own house (for whatever reason
Keep in mind though that Red Hat is significantly larger than Novell. They do more Linux business in the first place, so a smaller percentage growth is more significant.
Not really. Percentages are percentages. Growth normalized to the size of the company. They may have had more business, but they had more to start with.
Also, note the wording in the article. They have netted $100M in new business, above and beyond what they were attaining before the deal (which granted wasn't all that hot).
Another indicator - go compare Novell and Red Hat from Nov 2nd of last year to today - Novell stock is up 30%, Red Hat 21%. Go compare novell and red hat for a 1 year period before that (they are in a dead heat). Or a 2 year period before that (Red Hat up 40%). Theres a definite momentum shift in Novell's direction.
Yeah, those darned less-than-a-third-of-an-order-of-magnitude-orders.
Well, if you were to invest your dollar, would you want a 64% return ($0.64) or a 243% return ($2.43)?
64% vs. 243% ... slightly different orders of magnitude. Note both articles make different attributions to success: Novell to subscriptions and Red Hat to overseas expansion, particularly in Japan.
Heh, can we bid on them? How long do we get them for? I have some programming work that needs doing ... :P
The thing that irks me is that copyright and freak outs like this are about forcing us to consume, making us pay for something over and over and over again cause it can easily be replicated and the maker can get rich beyond their dreams. Well go for it, all the more power to them, all copyright and pirating headaches do for me is make me not consume the music, movies, or content, Then I might actually go outside again makes no difference to me.
Consumers do not have an innate right to consume music/movies/etc. That is one part of the equation many people miss. While I do feel the MPAA/RIAA are overbearing and abusive, this does not counter the first statement. We as consumers have no inherant right to their product.
To that point, I have not purchased a CD since high school, since I feel the cost to benefit ratio is high. Nor have I pirated one in 5+ years. I can count the number of movies I've rented this year on one hand, and the number of moves I've been to a theatre for this year? 1.