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Half of IT Workers Sleep on the Job
Stony Stevenson writes "According to a new online survey by Harris Interactive, more than half of IT workers say they've fallen asleep at work, while nearly half of techies also are apparently in the mood for love. Forty-seven percent of tech pros admit they've kissed a co-worker, according to the online survey of 5,700 U.S. workers, including 163 techies.
The survey didn't indicate if those work taboos were committed by the same respondents, but in both cases, men were more likely to admit doing both. Forty-nine percent of male techies say they've fallen asleep at work, while only 35 percent of women admitted doing so."
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Sometimes I feel like sleeping at my current job. This seems pretty obvious to me.
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Perhaps the female workers are being honest. It could be completely possible that the difference in the numbers is b/c male co-workers are kissing each other and females just don't sleep on the job as often.
I have an older employee who handles some contracts (hourly) that has a tendency to fall asleep. He's within a decade or less of retirement, and we've caught him napping a few times in recent months (as has the customer he's usually working at). We've talked, and it definitely seems like there's a medical issue here, so it leaves us with having to just compensate the customer for any billable time where he has fallen asleep. We've considered moving him to an internal job, but he's really good at the tasks he leads, and he also works very hard otherwise. The customer is also understanding because they have realized that his productive time more than compensates for his napping time, but there's always a fear that the contract could expire over this particular issue.
I'm sure most of the people polled here are younger, but it's definitely not just a laziness issue.
_mare_ ? Now that's funny!
To my defense she told me that she loved me in an email.
Funny that I was just about to do an AskSlash about this issue because I was starting to get concerned.
It's been very difficult for me to stay up or want to stay up at the current internship that I'm in, which involves writing software for a corporate firm. While the job itself can be stimulating and logically challenging at times, sometimes I feel like I just have a hard time really concentrating on anything. It's not so much the environment; most of the people that work with me are very active in talking about their roles and responsibilities (most conversations either directly involve or segway into this). Actually, I'm not really sure what it is.
I really like to be mobile and move around in my jobs, but I am devoid of needing to do that for this. My main job is to sit down and review/rewrite/create code. I've never done this before, so maybe I'm just not accustomed to needing to look at a computer screen for 8.5+ hours every business day.
In general, IT jobs can have some physical downtime; it's just inevitable. As for kissing co-workers, I would presume that this is more prominent in corporate environments because the physical quality of the girls are MUCH better than those of more research-oriented or specialized firms (forgive me if I've insulted anyone). I know that there are several women at my job that I would love to take out to dinner sometime, but it can be difficult dealing with a formidable age gap as an intern in a pretty established department...
Good article.
Maybe those napping techs are just channeling their inner Ralph Wiggum in preparation for "Talk Like a Pirate Day".
sleep debt is a real phenomenon, and if you're falling asleep at work, you've likely got a large amount of it.
Many people think falling asleep is a sign of "laziness". That's just nonsense, it just means that person needs to get more sleep, or get better quality sleep!
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Yeah, and the other half is here posting on Slashdot!
We're counting brain-dead as "asleep", right?
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... only because we were still at work at 4am trying to push out the current "Agile" development cycle, while management is off on vacation.
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"The survey didn't indicate if those work taboos were committed by the same respondents, but in both cases, men were more likely to claim doing both."
Clearly this indicates that a majority of the work force in the tech sector is committed to Apple and Apple-related products.
Do consider that many IT pros consider the server room to be like a naval ship or prison, where the norms are loosened in the sake of convenience.
Seems like a dangerous combination.
Might explain all the buggy sotware, which I always attributed to too much coffee...
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Ok, let's just stop horsing around.
I jerk off at my cube. The way I figure it, if 1 in 150 employees masturbates at work, if I'm the one doing the rubbin', then I don't have to worry about shaking hands with the other 149...
Because we are all overworked and thrown out of our natural rhythms. Not everyone is comfortable with getting up at 5AM to go to work; I honestly believe that "morning people" and "night people" exist, and that night people are being abused by being forced to keep the same hours as "morning people".
And we've come so far technologically and socially but we still have even more demands put on us every day. 40+ hour week can be a bit much if you have tons of other things to do during non-work hours.
We're supposed to be advancing as a society, not becoming a train wreck. Either pull back on our responsibilities or our work hours, and let us get some rest.
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163 Techies? That sample is *way* too small. Any self respecting editor should discard this, especially such a headline.
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> Forty-seven percent of tech pros admit they've kissed a co-worker,
... which would explain the sleeping thing.
"Admit"?
An IT guy?
Yeah, right.
In your dreams maybe
Max.
It's happened to me a few times, primarily around 2:00am when I'm waiting for a crash dump or tombstone to be analyzed by the support line folks. Since I can't stay awake forever during that time, I make sure that the ringer is on 100%, then I put my head down and snooze until I get a call back.
The only other time was a hell weekend where we were doing a totally screwed up network migration, and I only got about four hours of sleep over a three-day weekend. I was close to killing the stupid network manager who put together a totally useless plan for the migration, but he saved himself by resigning first. Helped me avoid washing the blood off of my hands.
Maybe they just dreamed they were kissing a co-worker.
"and when I woke up my mouse was all wet..."
Sigs are for losers.
You ask a bunch of geeks if they've kissed a co-worker...and no surprise, over half of them have! Of course, 57% of us are also blackbelts and monster-truck drivers in our spare time. The girls we supposedly kissed? Yeah, they're totally hot. But they live in Idaho, so you wouldn't know them.
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Woah, DUDE you need a new job. I know just where you can get one.....
Seriously though, the job market is amazing right now, if your job sucks that much leave your company to the miserable, failing fate it deserves. Find something better for yourself.
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> Half of IT Workers Sleep on the Job
...which would might explain why it's *only* kissing.
Perhaps it's just the bottom half?
Max.
So... I guess when I fall asleep at my desk and then suddenly wake up with a raging boner, that must mean that I'm both sleep and sex starved?
I've never fallen asleep...gone to sleep? Oh, yes. With a former employer it wasn't unusual to bust ass for 7-8 hours starting at 8 PM Saturday to get physical maintenance tasks done (after working 50 hours during the week) and then being in the position of still having several hours before server jobs I had kicked off at the start of maintenance needing to finish so I can go home. Employee lounge with nice comfortable leather sofa...here I come. Management knew and preferred that to me killing myself falling asleep behind the wheel on my way home. Still, it's funny how you can miss the fact that a traffic light is red when you are really sleep deprived. I'm very happy to have a 9-5 now.
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lie on surveys.
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This just means more of a chance of not waking up!
That means... I really don't want to fall asleep around other men at work?
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It's always better on such things to ask "how many different coworkers have you kissed?" instead of "have you ever kissed a coworker?" That way, assuming negligible same-sex kissing, if answers of males greatly differ from those of females, we know one group is lying (total indegree equals total outdegree, if you will). With this survey, it's impossible to tell whether the variation is due to gender differences in kissing behavior or in admitting to it.
I sleep around 10 hours a night, more on the weekends, but am still tired all the time. I've been checked out, they say nothing is physically wrong with me, which is very frustrating to hear, OF COURSE something is wrong. I guess different people need different amounts of sleep, but if it's true that I need this much just to barely function I really got fucked over genetically.
Power napping is where it's at! Depending on the culture at your work place you may have to be a bit "sneaky" to slip in a power nap, or you may need to scarf lunch and take a quick rest in the car.
I highly recommend it.
...the American/Puritan work ethic. Why would taking a short nap in the afternoon when I'm having lunch coma be such a terrible thing? Heck, I'll even do it without pay. Won't cost the employer a thing. It's so crazy that we try to pretend like we're worker bots without biological needs and failings.
I used to work for a pr0n company where people were actually paid for sleeping on the job (not to mention kissing co-workers...hehe) but I guess my experience is not really that of the 'typical' IT worker... That said, I think all IT workers should take at least a one hour nap midday sometime, it makes dealing with non-IT types much easier afterward. A colleague of mine introduced me to the 30 min powernap. At 3pm when you feel tired, chug a Red Bull or a coffee and quickly take a nap, by the time the drink kicks in you should be waking up from your nap charged up and ready to take on another 3hrs or so...try it! fsckr
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Like many others, I have mastered the fine art of sleeping with my eyes open during management meetings.
As an Old Fart, I often take half hour naps in the early afternoon. I'm lucky to have worked mostly at companies with private offices (with doors that lock), but I've done this in cube farms, too.
After thirty minutes of down-time, I grab a cup of coffee and hit the afternoon refreshed, thinking clearly and less stressed.
Civilized societies have siestas.
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/. rather than out in the real world where first impressions matter.
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Often IT jobs involve little normal busy work. I've equated many of my IT positions to being a fire fighter. There is plenty of down time, but when there is a fire, somebody has to go put it out. There was a Slashdot article just a few days ago asking about a metric to measure productivity in an IT department. I wouldn't focus on the amount of work done, or the hours slept, but rather whether or not services are ever disrupted.
If IT is there to keep the business running, and it runs, then IT is doing their job.
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This what you get when you work people 80+ H/W and you also want them there for the 6am even if they where there to 2am or later last night. And fireing people who do fall a sleep is not the way to fix it.
Ya think? I've worked all hours of a day, 24+ hour shifts, a month of 7x12 (or 16) hour days.
Most of that is with prior jobs, but even on this one I did a 23 hour shift when a customer installed a patch they shouldn't have...
Depends on the the work, but being behind a desk all day coding or maintaining a server could put the snooze on anyone. Coding is a bit more active but still your there doing not much physical activity and more brain work.
I know there were times I was studying for homework and/or exams when I was in college and reading text books would put me to sleep. IT work is no different I think, people need to get up and move around and process all they're doing before going back at it so to speak.
Even a little horse play doesn't hurt to take your mind off the work to relax and process things. You come back at it with a fresher perspective. For me, I'm in the middle of a rubber band war in my cubical between a web guy and a server admin. They're just lucky a rubber band hasn't landed in my food during lunch. I have no problems spending a little extra new found cash at the appropriate arms dealer. >:)
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We always keep beer in our fridges, but generally we don't consume it till late afternoon on Fridays.
This is why I wish my company either had shorter core hours, or only have core hours 4 days a week. I really have trouble falling asleep at night, but once I'm asleep, I can stay asleep just fine. If I could fall asleep on my own time and come in on my own time, I'd be much more productive/code better, because I wouldn't be as tired.
I think there's definitely something to be said for having only 4 hours of core hours a day. While everyone would still be required to work their 40 hours during the week, you'd only be required to be at work during those 4 hours, and could decide when you wanted to work the other 20 hours.
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I would very much like to see the statistics for the non-techies.
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when i was working the morning tower in the oil field (7PM to 5AM) i made about 2/3s of my paycheck sleeping in the dog house, the driller would throw an old boot on to the top of the dog house from the drilling platform when he need me, and i would have to find that boot and bring it back up to the platform...
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I sleep around 10 hours a night, more on the weekends, but am still tired all the time.
You might have sleep apnea or some other kind of sleep disorder (assuming you haven't been checked for that). You can be waking up in the middle of the night multiple times and not even realize it. I'm no expert, but if I were you I'd try to get refered to an expert. They can give you some kind of monitoring device that'll tell you how many times/night you're waking up.
There's also special sleep clinics around the country that will observe you while you sleep and can diagnose other kinds of sleep disorders. Many doctors aren't aware of the different sleep disorders that exist. (A number of years ago I attended a speech given by a top sleep researcher given to medical professionals, so that's where my primitive knowledge comes from)
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let me think on that a bit more? it may be easier to fix when it's finished getting 'broken'.
i have made a female coworker come at work
(hand stimulation under the skirt and panties)
does that count for anything
I don't think i will login for this
what with "sexual" her-ass-ment being what it is these days
Forty-seven percent of tech pros admit they've kissed a co-worker
... in your dreams! (specifically the 50% that have fallen asleep)
Yeah
The little guy just ain't getting it, is he?
The numbers work ok if you count ass kissing.
Yes, I've fallen asleep at work before (maybe even as many times as I've done all-nighters). Yes, I've kissed a female coworker before (in the office place). My only defense to the latter is that she started it and she was married and I was not at the time ...
...
I'll also admit[1] to calling in sick for work when my girlfriend at the time wanted me to stay at home in bed with her.
[1] But not under my real name
I work with a bunch of dudes. The only kissable person in the building is the asian girl in accounting.
LK
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Privelege of the job. But we do some of the most complicated work, the human brain can handle
Dude, probably not a medical disorder.
Everyone has that problem at some point in their life. You need to try and find a way to stimulate yourself more at work. At a past job, I could be getting great sleep and work on very interesting projects all day long, but it would still hit me. I would still start to crash while very intellectually stimulated.
So when that started happening, I started taking walks and interacting with people. Surprise, surprise, I found that if I took some breaks to walk around, interact, get at least something physical in, I could go all day with no problems.
So I found a way to work it into that job that I could get my needed amount of activity, and eventually took a job with it built in.
I don't get why people don't understand that in quite a few people you need to stimulate the body and mind to be healthy! Try it. It'll work. Even if it's something as simple as doing 20 pushups when you wake up and 10 more around lunch. I bet that it will help. From anecdotal experience, I would say that a fairly large number of people in the industry experience this, and fix it with physical activity.
Well, this gives a new meaning to sleeping with coworkers, doesn't it? Perhaps other surveys weren't specific enough about what they actually meant...
So was it the kisses that put them to sleep, or that woke them up?
I've done time in a sleep lab. Normal breathing, cycles, etc. and I barely moved at all.
Provided it's not chronic, or related to chronic hang-overs or even excessive smoking of the "Chronic" Sleeping on the job should not be discouraged! Passing out on the other hand is something entirely different... IT work is serious brain work...writing code has driven people nuts! I once heard a story about a guy in the late eighties who complained all his dreams were in HEX. The point is simple. If I'm the boss, you can sleep all day! Just as long as you're being productive: Just as long as our financial relationship of me paying you continues to be a win-win. Since I'm the boss...hold all my calls I'm going to take a nap now.
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... I used to sleep under my desk at work for 20 minutes pretty much every lunchtime. Perfect for productivity. I even had a rather cool fluffy leopard skin pillow.
I have no idea why more people don't do it. I would wake refreshed and ready for the next pile of crap.
Of course, now I telecommute, I can go the whole hog and hit the bed for 1/2 hour at lunchtime.
Naps are good.
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If 49% of males are sleepers and 35% of females are sleepers, how do we get to 51%? Must be a third gender, which would change IT into a personal pronoun. And they would be very sleepy.
I hear you mate. I've been in the IT industry for 15 years, and in software development for the last 8. I used to work insane hours when I ran my own show and studied at university. (Up to 20 hrs a day, 13 days a fortnight) I used to have energy, I used to have go, but that was all about adrenaline baby. That was back before 2004... I WANTED to work insane hours, but couldn't... I NEVER had energy, so I resorted to drinking fridge fulls of V. (Like red bull for those non-Australian types) But of course, like any good IT nerd, I kept on going. By about 2006 after 2 deaths in my family, I realised something. It's just not worth redlining yourself, all day every day. Yes, this situation was rather extreme, but we all suffer from it. What is the "it"? A lack of BALANCE. Balance is definitely a buzzword that's thrown around at every given opportunity, but this is what I mean by balance: If: 1. You keep on pushing your waking hours 2. You eat crap 3. You drink crap 4. You sit down in front of the PC all day, every day You are abusing your most valuable tool... your brain. NEWSFLASH!!! Your brain is part of your body. Abuse your body, transitively, you abuse your brain. I moved to Sydney after a stint of work in the US (And yes, it was hammer and tongs again) and am now working for a corporate. (Not as bad as it sounds, and no, I'm not a sellout). A friend of mine once said to me that when you live in a big city, your legs are your best form of transport. I took that to heart, and pay a bit extra to live in the gucci suburb that my employer is, but live about 3km (about 2 miles for the yanks) away from work, AND WALK THERE EVERY DAY AND HOME EVERY NIGHT. I also discovered this wonderful thing called s-l-e-e-p. Yes. Sleep. I make myself get at least 9 hrs a night, no matter what. "Oh, but I haven't got time to sleep". WRONG. You don't have time not to. You're just robbing yourself of your next day's productivity. For all those party animals out there, this applies to you too, not just the workaholics. "Unwinding" is good, but not at the cost of sleep. I can't stress this enough. I also discovered this wonderful thing called a w-e-e-k-e-n-d. Yes, a weekend. Very important. Remember the whole "Unwinding" thing I was talking about? Well, this is a good time to do it. Also, see sleep. Another good time to do that too. With this whole taking time out of my busy work schedule, you'd think that I've dropped in my productivity. Not true. My rate of productivity has increased so much, that in 5 days ~10 hrs a day work, I do MORE than when I was working 13/14 days ~14 hrs a day. IF you have to work long hours, and there is just no way around it, for god's sake. DON'T GO OUT. Sleep comes before "unwinding". Furthermore... EAT WELL. Especially during these times. If you eat well, you will be healthy. Remember your body? It's like a car. If you run it on premium, fill it with oil and take good care of it, guess what... IT WILL KEEP WORKING. If not, it will break, along with that valuable tool called your brain. By eating well, I don't mean "raw vegetables", "vegetable juice" blah blah blah crap crap crap. I mean 3 square meals a day, low on fat. Wu. How hard. Learn to like sushi, stir fry and the like. Avoid Mc Crap-alls. They just sell greaseball food units. Which brings me on to the last thing. Drinks... or should I say the wonderdrug... Caffeeine. Caffeeine keeps you awake... for now. In large enough doses, it also gives you insomnia, which in turn ROBS YOUR NEXT DAY. Stay off it unless you really need it. IT IS A DRUG. (Albeit valuable, but treat it as such.) And yes, my parents harped on me since I was 12 to live like this, my friends harped on me, several girlfriends that actually gave a damn about me said the same thing. Well, after years of stubborn denial, I have admitted defeat on all the arguments.
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At my current job, I was told that the individual who occupied my cubicle before I started working there would regularly doze off in the afternoon. He would snore blissfully away in his chair. Apparently, my coworkers took high delight in ringing his phone from across the room, and listening to him splutter and snort his way back to consciousness.
I, of course, would never dream of falling asleep at my desk. I usually dream of much more pleasant places.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Don't you mean "boast," or maybe "lie" ?
Just get a big reel-to-reel, record "Hello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on?" and "Are you sure it's plugged in?", set the phone down on it and you're good to go.
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I have sleep apnea! Wooooo! High-five.
For a while now Elaine's been complaining about my snoring, and I believed her that I snore, but I never knew how bad it was. There'd be times in the middle of the night where she'd shove me in frustration and I'm like, "What! How could I be snoring, I've been lying here awake!" which was of course total B.S. I told her to record me one night so I could hear for myself, which she avoided for a while, but finally did using our camera in video mode. I finally learned why our bedroom furniture is always in different places in the morning and why a team of confused seismologists is always wandering around our block. And that I look cute when I'm sleeping.
So off I went to spend a night at a sleep clinic to find out if I have the same thing that both my dad has and my brother have (being that apnea can be genetic, it was almost a foregone conclusion). Good thing I have a bemused curiosity about things like this, like the "collection" room when I went to make sure my "equipment" wasn't "shooting blanks" so I could have "money-sucking kids that won't give you a moment's peace and will draw on your walls and by the way, we'll have TWO AT A TIME which'll make life hell so GOOD LUCK."
Except there wasn't any porn! Only a TV with just network channels so I was forced to watch "So You Think You Can Be Smarter Than a Fifth Grader Who Forgets the Lyrics or No Deal: Fiji". Shows like this are why Elaine is grateful for Pay-per-view and Netflix during the summer. At least it helped put me to sleep so the guys in white coats could start their study. Until they woke me up at 2am and said COULD YOU NOT SNORE SO LOUD YOU'RE WAKING UP THE OTHER SNORING PATIENTS.
When I went in to see the doctor to get my results, I was already resigned to the fact that I might need to get the same surgery that my brother did, which fixed his problem. But the guy said, "your apnea is so bad, surgery wouldn't help." All right! I dodged THAT bullet. Apparently I had short breathing stoppages fifty-two times in an hour. The normal rate is about three.
So at home, I'm now trying to wear a CPAP mask to bed to help me breathe better, stop snoring and get more restful sleep. (I get "CPAP" and "pap smear" confused, I don't even know what "pap smear" is but I know I don't want it on my face) And it's been tough so far. It's too hot and humid these days to be wearing a large mask on your face all night, especially one that needs to be tight enough so there's no air leaks, and that's blowing air at you so hard you feel like you're sky diving (or: think Jackie Chan, Operation Condor, wind tunnel). But I'm trying. Like with everything, I know I'll get used to it eventually.
At least Elaine gets to fulfill her lifelong dream of sleeping with Darth Vader. C'mon girls, admit it, I know there's plenty of you out there.
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Along with the other suggestions consider depression or other mental disorders like bipolar. Even if you don't feel what you would think of as "depressed" there can be a chemical imbalance.
Techies sleeping on the job is not a big deal, nor a suprise to anyone except management that's locked him/herself into an office and doesn't get out. When someone has been working until 4:00AM, and they're compiling something that may take almost 30 minutes, they fall asleep. If they were staying awake, THAT would be news. (So I wonder how the other 51% does it.) It was a pretty common sight at one of my previous jobs, that techies would be sleeping, in the middle of the day, in front of their terminal. No one made a fuss really. (Of course, we weren't paid by the hour either.)
As for kissing... *cough cough* I know there's a whole lot more going on than just a couple innocent kisses. And while the majority of cases (that I was aware of) weren't with techies, we had some pretty juicy rumors going around. Again, get young people, men and women alike, working 14 hours a day in the same office and... where ELSE do you get your romantic life from? (No, pr0n and Mr. Right Hand doesn't count...)
When I've been sitting there for 48 hours straight babysitting a run, damn right I took a nap. A short one... and not during "normal" working hours...
I think I'll just take one now and wake up in an hour to check how things are going.
I'm not depressed, and I'm sure they would have figured out a chemical imbalance with all the tests and blood work they've done.
I would urge anyone who gets at least 8 hours of sleep a night and still continues to fall sleep to get a sleep screening for sleep apnea. Most insurance will pay for the study with a doctor referral. With the number of overweight Americans higher than ever I suspect this is becoming more and more common.
It's not sleeping. It's relaxen unt watchen das blinken lights.
Half of IT Workers Sleep on the Job
I'm majoring in human resource management ... it's good to know that there's still work out there to be done.
So now I'm curious...did he report dreaming in code?
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Usually I never need to nap. But sometimes we had to migrate a client, wake up at 2am on saturday, and get it through until 11am monday. So at some point you nap while your colleague do the rest. It also happenned sometimes after having worked in a row more than one day 13 hours longs. IMHO this study is useless if it does not distinguish napping for night shift, medical condition, exceptionally long projects or simple 9*5 worker napping from time to time.
;). Just kidding. Anyway what was the point on asking if they kissed ? Too prude to ask if they had sex ? Because if it is the case, frankly I can eventually see the interest of knowing how much napping is done (loss of productivity). But inter-personal relationship like kissing, sex and other ? Come on ! It is none the business of anybody !
As for kissing, we are speaking about french kissing, right ? Just checking that my australian and american prude co-poster and me are on the same wavelength
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Wow... since all their co-workers are dudes, because girls can't do math because their girl parts make it possible for them to ask boys to help them in HS with a reasonable expectation of service.
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"You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
...Of course, I'm working at all hours of the day and night. Welcome to the Global Economy(tm). :P
I love my job though. No pointy haired bastards whining that I'm passed out in the middle of the day, because they damned well know I was awake the entirety of the night before.
Odd hours go with the IT business, unless you're working as a drone at a Fortune 500 company maybe. (And even then, I'm sure you get late nights, whining about deadlines, and the expectation of being there at 9AM sharp the next day. Poor bastards, I pity the lot of you.)
One bad thing is I telecommute, so I don't really get to mack on coworkers. Then again, I can work without wearing pants. Now, if only I could somehow combine the two...
... of course, I work from home (when not at a customer site) and am on-call 24/7 - so, yes I sleep on the Job...
My husband has sleep apnea. When he went to the sleep clinic they marked him as a 3+ on a scal eout of 3 for level of snoring.
It's only since we started watching House that he realised what the face mask really looks like. What he doesn't appreaciate/experience is the jet of cold/sweaty air being blown in his face/do the back of his neck all night.
We use the air condition for maybe 35% of the year because I need a blanket all year around to act as a wind break and to hide under.
Sara
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Or something like that. In my experience working in my IT shop of 3 people I don't think any of us have ever fallen asleep on the job. This is probably because we set our own schedule and can come and go any time we want, but I guess that is besides the point.
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I once had to do some unexpected maintenance in a server facility that was manned (or in this case, manned-and-womaned) 24 hours a day. I show up there, with my card key to let me in, at about 2am. There is a NOC with a male and a female employee there. The woman was sitting there, skirt up, the guy with his head between her legs. I'm sure I scared them but I didn't look beyond my initiate glimpse and I never told anyone about it.
If you anonymous NOC workers are out there reading slashdot, this was probably 1999 in a very big colocation facility, which later went BK. This was a place in the Bay Area.
I was just rudely awakened by my manager who strolled on over to the lab after reading this story. Someone should teach Harris Interactive a lesson to let sleeping dogs lie.
The headline implies the "half" do it regularly. I fell asleep at work once or twice, which probably adds up to like 0.01 percent of my total time working, but to say I "sleep at work" is a misleading statement that implies numbers like 10 to 30 percent when people hear it.
Is the poster a lobbyist at their day job, by chance?
Table-ized A.I.
Perhaps they could explain how 49% of males and 35% of females constitute more that half. Do they think these numbers add?
Many people think falling asleep is a sign of "laziness". That's just nonsense, it just means that person needs to get more sleep, or get better quality sleep!
Or that the coffee machine is on the blink
Table-ized A.I.
Err, unless 70% of all inhuman zombies in IT fall asleep, I can't see how 49% of men and 35% of women add up to over 50%!
As for sleeping... never while actually doing useful work. There have been a couple of utterly unnecessary meetings where I've felt myself drifting off, though.
I've also worked with a 50-ish dude in a call centre who was doing night classes as well, and he'd fall asleep between calls. Given that the calls were coming in every 30 seconds, this was quite a feat. It did screw up his call times a bit, but not badly enough to immediately make something of it, and the entire division was outsourced before it became enough of an issue anyway.
Hmm, I guess there are a few people like me who kinda sleep inside their server room...
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Took a 45 minute nap in my car during my lunch break. I felt way better the rest of the day.
I don't like to go to sleep because it just means I have to go to work in the morning, which is why I'm posting on slashdot at 12:48 AM.
Server Rooms make me sleepy... All those machines.....all those fans....all that white noise...... YAWN....so sleeepy... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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And yet, somehow, more than half of all techs have fallen asleep at work. Gosh, that's interesting. Those non-male non-female techs sure must do a lot of sleeping on the job!
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when you pull constant 12-18 hour days for a crappy IT netadmin salary, why not sleep at work. sometimes it doesn't even make sense to bother driving home.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
So? Most worker bees in IT never come close to working a 40 hour week, more like 50-60, and most of the time, do it without complaining (overtly). So if I'm up all night because I'm on call and then work a 12 hour day, I'm not going to feel too bad if I nod off for a couple minutes at my desk.
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...for a siesta....
Western medicine is really bad at discovering the source of "problems" until they've progressed into serious diseases. I used to, and to some extent still do have the same problems. In my case it turned out that changing my diet (cutting out caffeine and refined sugars, eating lots of vegetables, grains and high quality meats) and exercising (tai chi and kung fu training) made a huge world of difference. You might consider checking out a book called Healing with Whole Foods as a good place to start on diet.
to promote themselves up the ladder
the other half are reading /.
I've fallen asleep on the job in IT at least once.
I haven't kissed any co-workers, and given the co-workers I've had, the idea squicks me.
I've since escaped from pure IT and work freakish schedules in research, some of which actually take it as a given that I will sleep.
e.g. Arrive at work, get ferried to another location (1 hour, sleep allowed), eat, get ferried another half hour (sleep allowed), then rotate 1 hour on, 1 hour off (sleep allowed) for 4-5 cycles, then ferried back to base (90 minutes, sleep allowed).
Village idiot in some extremely smart villages.
What do you expect when your pulling 18 hour days 50 to 70 hours a week and companies don't have much room to complain since they are likely only paying you for 40.
Mandatory toothpicks in the eyes for that meeting. Actually all meetings.
Once I flinched so hard I kicked the table and spilt the speaker's coffee.
I wonder how much variance there is in sleep time needed. Average is, what, 8 hours? And it could be +/- 2 hours? I've thought people who need 10 hours sleep per night (if there are any, and I guess there are) are screwed by this one-size-fits-all 8 hour workday. That's around 2 fewer hours than everyone else gets to take care of all the business of living outside of work. Keeping house, buying groceries, balancing the checkbook, paying the bills, maintaining the car, the 3 S's, etc.
Artificial lighting is a killer. Try living without lights for a week. When it gets dark, there's just about nothing to do. The boredom soon puts you to sleep. You'll wake up in the middle of the night at odd times for 90 min or so-- just about no one needs 12 hours of sleep per night. I've read speculation that's actually the way sleep is supposed to work.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
It seems that some are highly efficient and combine the two. :-)
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You might need a different mattress. Seriously, check it out. My tempurpedic has done wonders for my restfulness, focus, and energy levels, which I struggled with for 20 years. (Though I also have a mild case of sleep apnea.)
Where and when is all this kissing going on? Although IT people do have a rather broad definition of 'kissing'.
The idea of a power nap or cat nap has been around forever. I've been tired at work and had my boss say, "Hey, go to your office and take a power nap."
As for office romance, hell, it predates the existence of offices.
I entered the corporate workforce in 1989. None of this stuff was "taboo" then and it isn't now.
Did I accidently slide over to a parallel Earth in my sleep or something?
It seems to me that any job that is stressful will cause exhaustion. And being in a field that is almost always understaffed and with people bugging you for every little thing leaves room open for a lot of stress. Not only that, but to stay on the ball in a field that is exponentially changing can leave almost no time for anything else so there really is no time to unwind. As both a full time student and working a helldesk job full time as well I can say that there are times I might have dozed off in both school and at work. Now if you would excuse me my break time is coming up and I find that talking about naps reminds me of how little sleep I've had recently.
>only 35 percent of women admitted doing so There's women in IT ? Where !? Where !? I want to change jobs !!
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what is this thing you call "kissing"... I don't remember that being covered in my CS course (must have been that lecture I slept through after drinking all night in the computer lab while trying to run "man woman" command
These results are swayed by Lee Harris, who falls asleep most days!
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You don't mention what kind of medical test you had done, but assuming you were checked up for sleeping disorders it may also be a case of mild depression. Depression often alters sleep patterns, some people have insomnia, others feel drowsy all the time, and yet some more sleep a lot but don't get rest. Perhaps there is some event in your life that is troubling you, or maybe you are unhappy about some aspect of your life. At times it isn't sharp enough to be easily recognized as depression, but there may be other related symptoms such as eating too much or too little (as related to your past habits). Stress can also diminish the quality of sleep. Obviously without more info is hard to guess.
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I sometimes take naps during my lunch break. That sounds bad except my lunch break is about 3am. I've worked the graveyard shift for nearly seven years now. My normal sleep hours are 12 noon to 8p, when I can get to sleep. It's not easy, not even after so many years. My health suffers terribly. Relationships? Who are we kidding? There are no relationships. Sometimes I can't sleep during the day and wind up a walking zombie on my work shift. Sometimes a nap at work is all I can do to stay alive -but I only do that OFF the clock.
Oh sure I have tried to get off this shift but there is no room in this company. No place to go. No openings. And my boss won't let me change shifts. I suspect I will escape this hell only when I either die or get another job. And I am not sure getting another job is my first choice. I'm tired of the boring, dull, stupid daily slog with no purpose and no hope. I have no family to support so I wonder why the hell I go through this. There's just no point to it and there won't ever BE a point at this rate. My daily challenge is to keep from just jumping off a bridge.
Back on point, sometimes I use my unpaid lunch break to sleep. 20 minutes can really help. I don't honestly give a damn WHAT my company thinks of this. My time is mine. I'll sleep on the conference room floor and if they don't like that, I can sleep in my car.
As a side note, nobody else sleeps "on the job" here. At night, it's not possible because there's no way you can sleep at your desk. And if you're on break, once again, it's none of the company's business and should not count. During the day, it's not possible due to the number of workers and the lack of empty space where you could get away with that. Management is mixed in among us and would not stand for it. You would have to sleep in your car and that gets back to the concept that what you do on your time is your business.
I work during my sleep (at night).
Atheism is a non-prophet organisation
*yawn* wait, what time is it?
Another online poll for people to report their own behaviors.
This is not possible without a lot of transsexuals in IT:
More than half (50% and up) of IT workers have fallen asleep at work.
AND
49% of male techies have fallen asleep at work.
AND
35% of women have fallen asleep at work.
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Code Monkey offer buy you soda
bring you cup bring you ice
you say no thank you for the soda 'cause
soda make you fat
anyway you busy with the telephone
no time for chat
Code Monkey have long walk back to cubicle
he sit down pretend to work
Code Monkey not thinking so straight
Code Monkey not feeling so great
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What are the stastics for healthcare workers? Doctors, residents, nurses, therapists, etc are all paid hourly, and can often be found taking naps. Sure, the argument can be made about their long hours and night shifts, but they actually get paid more/hour during night shift vs day shift. I know several people in the field, and all boast about napping for a few hours, getting up to do a few treatments, then sleeping for a few more hours, and so on (all while making a ridiculous hourly rate).
I'm not depressed. It's been like this since my late teens and been pretty much the same for almost a decade. I eat the same as I always do, and I'm stress free even at work. I've been checked for all the sleep disorders, depression, they scanned my head, etc. The verdict always is idiopathic. Years ago a friend gave me some of his Rx meds, amphetamines, and they actually made me feel normal, awake, and alert the entire day. I've been tempted to ask my doctor for them ever since, but I don't want to get dependent on drugs to function and am scared of getting addicted.
49% + 35% /2 !> 50%
Ya gotta do something while waiting for Vista to respond.
(Yea its flamebait, get over it.)
Use your head, can't you, use your head,
You're on earth, there's no cure for that - S. Beckett
I had this problem for years and years. For what it's worth, I found that doing exercise at lunch (not in the evening, I found it just charged me up) and yoga/meditation in the evening sorted me out.
or is that spelled unix?
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
Sure, in the middle of a meeting, kissing a co-worker would be a very bad idea, likewise doing the same thing to a subordinate. But what I do on my own time is none of my employer's business. Personally, I dated and ended up marrying a coworker, and our managers were not the least bit upset, nor were there any rules against it (as long as it was not a relationship with a subordinate).
If you worked in the same department, I could see that causing issues that you (not your employer) are going to be responsible for solving, but otherwise, I don't see the problem, and neither did our managers at the time we were dating. (We work in very different parts of our company now, so it isn't the least bit of an issue.) We still work just down the hall from each other, car pool and see one another for lunch every day. We even got to go on a business trip for a month to Hawaii. (The customer needed both of our skills for a consulting project)
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Where I work there are a lot of, well, old people here. A lot of them don't retire until the Grim Reaper comes by and give them the pink slip. Fortunately, this usually happens somewhere besides work, but every now and then...
So I was walking down the hall one day and glance into this guy's office as I go by. He's sitting down, doing a face plant on the desk, his arms dangling. I stop, thinking "oh crap! should I call the paramedics or what not", when a coworker of his walks by and sees the alarm in my face and peers into the office too. Seeing the guy at his desk, he laughed and said, "Oh he does that everyday around this time".
The dude was sleeping! (whew)
I wouldn't be so sure. While blood work can probably detect the levels of serotonin in your system, I don't know of any common tests that would uncover a deficiency in your serotonin transmitters or receptors.
Regardless, I used to be borderline clinically depressed. So, I went on zoloft. The very first morning after I took just one 150mg pill, I woke up feeling refreshed for the first time I could remember. Before that, I was like you, it didn't matter how much or how regular my sleep was, I woke up feeling tired.
If I were to employ employees for me I would have no problem to let them nap as much as they wanted as long as their sleep did not interfere with business objectives (this means no sleep during a meeting or when a client is about to call). Napping is good for the health and makes you more alert, which translates to higher job performance when awake. I have worked for IT companies in the past, writing software for the European Union, and I know first hand how inadequate sleep and inability to nap can lower job performance, especially around 15:00. I would not want my own staff to yawn and be bored while working, so I would give them free pillows and try to schedule business activities in such a way to allow them take a nap, even on their office (if not telecommuting), except during some special occassions (eg if a client comes to the office to talk with us etc).
I'm a trainer at a call center, and I rarely work less than 50 hours per week, more depending on what/who I'm training and when. If I'm lucky, I get a morning shift - if not, my class finishes at midnight.
Seriously, if only my students in those classes were cockroaches.
The Financial Industry pays out over $20 Billion in Bonuses a year, for their 12 to 18 hour days. What do they do - they move the stock of the tech companies around from investor to investor. We do the heavy lifting and get the box of rocks. Management reduces the pensions or eliminates them, pares the bonuses to nothing, stock options have gone by the wayside, raises are nothing against inflation. ......and we work cuz we love it - right.
I am tired about reading that CEOs and traders make millions in salary and 10's if not 100's of millions in bonuses.....
No-wonder no IT work ever gets finished!
The IT field is proliferated by narcoleptic nymphomaniac.
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Jesus fucking Christ, man! Why don't you just sleep in a different room? Does your wife really need to sleep in the same bed as you THAT badly :) My wife tosses and turns a lot so sometimes I sleep in the guest room. No big deal. Well, it's a big deal to women at first, but you have to work on them and explain how important it is. If your snoring is as bad as you say, it shouldn't take much convincing. Good luck.
I have an idea that the major pool of the IT works must have been at the state and federal level. Honestly, I can't think of doing anything better than sleeping, but if you are a "real" IT person ... you fucking work ALLL the fucking time ... users were meant to be stupid, by DNA.
Just not the kind most people think.
If people are falling asleep at work, and not getting enough sleep, they need to do a better job with their sleep hygiene.
Laziness in dealing with one's health issues is still laziness.
I only go to buffets for the unlimited soft serve.
1. eliminate all caffeine from your diet
2. get 30-40 minutes of cardio exercise 3-4 times a week
I haven't been sleepy during the day since, and I sleep great at night.
Eating a small lunch and eliminating sweets also helps...
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Seeing a sleep specialist and spending a night in a sleep clinic can be a trial. And you will likely get to do it again if you are dianosed with obstructive sleep apnea. The good news is that sleep apnea can be treated and you will feel so very much better when you get a good night's sleep and the benefit will be apparent after the first night that you sleep without the interruptions of apnea.
Any one who has symtoms like that should seek medical advice. Like many I was reluctant to do so, after much prodding I finally gave in and talked to my doctor about my sleep problems. It took some time to get through the specialist referral and the sleep clininc, but was well worth doing. The last two years since I was diagnosed and treated have been so much better than the preceding years when I was, in effect, half asleep much of the time.
Good luck.I went through a similar ordeal and it turned out that a combination of my "kissing" tonsils, adenoids and uvula were causing my palate to close and cutting off my airflow. My wife...sorry, the woman I sleep next to. Hmm, how can I explain this... Somebody told me that I now "purr like a kitten" instead of "growl like a bear". Something to consider if you are having problems with drowsiness throughout the day.
Well, I can pretty much say every IT person in our company has fallen asleep while at work. Granted, personally most of that was waiting for backups/restores to complete, waiting for the power company to show up to replace a blown transformer, babysitting generators (while waiting for the power company to show up), fun stuff like that, all in most cases when I would normally be sleeping. Let's face it, enough IT people have to sleep with their pagers in any case.
As for kissing a co-worker, I'd have to say I have. Then again, I was married to her before she started working here.
Another cause of this for males starting at age 40+ is declining testosterone.
I went through this- I would get 9 to 10 hours of sleep a night and still be exhausted.
When we finally found out my test had dropped to subnormal levels and started supplementing, I went back to feeling only on 7 to 8 hours of sleep a night. In about a week after I started supplementing.
Low teste also makes it very difficult to think straight and causes a constant anxiety with no particular source.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
47% of all workers have slept during work. So this news is not news it's a snooze.
I'm currently working on a helpdesk a startup company that provides 24/7 service. I literally change schedules each week between first, second, and third shift. I often find that when going back to first shift, I'm still on my "work during the night, sleep during the day" sleep schedule and have a lot of difficulty staying awake during the middle and towards the end of my shift. I couldn't say whether I would have this problem if my schedule was more consistent, but I suspect that I wouldn't.
I had a colleague that had fallen asleep during his annual review - twice.
He claimed that his job was boring enough the first time without having to go over it again.
If your process claims to be agile, and a single person is at the office after 8pm, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
One of the twelve key practices of XP is "No Overtime".
The very first value statement of the Agile Manifesto is to value "Individuals and Interactions over Processes and Tools". (the team members are valuable, so don't abuse them)
Not to say that there aren't plenty of shops like yours, who think that "no written requirements and a release every month" means they're agile. But that's not agile, just abusive.
...IT workers are called for twelve hours of overtime (after already putting in 8+ hours during a normal work day) to fix something mission critical. News at eleven.
Seriously, yes, I have slept at work before. At a job I used to have, we had a really crappy dBase-derived database program that would get corrupted at least once a week. Usually, I could fix it in a few hours, but on more than one occasion, I would have to stay at work all night long manually searching the database for corruption, then rebuilding all of the database indexes. The largest database file was 900+MB in size, and took an hour or two to re-index (this was back when a 1G hard drive was unusually large, and a 100MHz Pentium was still a smokin' fast machine), and several other files were also pretty large, and took a long time to re-index, as well. So after removing the corruption, I'd kick off the process to re-index the files, set the alarm on my watch, and take a nap since there was nothing else I could do right then, anyway.
On another occasion, I was updating a server after hours (since it couldn't be done during the business day). As in the database example above, there were a number of tasks that needed to be completed, they could run unattended for a half-hour to a couple of hours each, I had already worked an 8-5 and was back after hours and would be working another 8-5 the following morning, so again, I'd kick off an update, set my alarm for half an hour, and take a nap until it was time to check the status of the update.
In both of these cases, if I wasn't napping between tasks, I would have been making stupid mistakes due to fatigue long before the tasks were complete, and I would have been completely useless the following days. In both of these cases, napping while on the job was simply an efficient way to handle the conflicting requirements of physical and business needs.
MCSE? No, sir...I don't do Windows. Yes, I am an idealist. What's your point?
The kissing stat invalidates the survey. I cannot take a poll seriously with this complete fabrication.
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Have you looked at the men & women in IT ? They're *putting* each other to sleep.
It's a frickin' online survey! Standard disclaimer applies.
Quit bragging about getting a blow job every night. Sheesh!
what were we talking about?
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From this, one can conclude that European schedules are more likely to maximize individual productivity (more work per hour), while American schedules are more likely to maximize organizational productivity (more work per person).
I'm not sure I understand the later concept -- how can organizational productivity be maximized if individual productivity is compromised?
This is really pretty interesting, though. It might also speak to what I've always thought was a paradox regarding European unemployment. Theoretically, because of the increased vacation time and less demanding schedules, an organization might need to hire more workers to keep the number of man-hours the same. But if the workers are actually more productive per hour of work with a lighter schedule, an organization might neither need more workers or more worker time....
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Even if individual productivity per hour is lower, people are working more hours. Let's say that, on average, the individual does 5 units of work per hour with a 35hr week, but only 4.5 units/hr with a 45 hour week. In the first case, the worker is more efficient and accomplishes 175 total units. In the second case, his average productivity is lower, but the total is 202.5. As the hours per week increase, each additional hour adds progressively less to the final total--perhaps at a 60 hour week, he gets only 3 units per hour done, making the week's total only 180, less than if he'd worked only 45 hours.
This is simplified for the sake of example, of course. Obviously this only applies to salaried workers, as well. For workers paid hourly, the company benefits more by LIMITING the hours worked to the personal productivity peak, because it means they get more value for the money spent.
This is really pretty interesting, though. It might also speak to what I've always thought was a paradox regarding European unemployment. Theoretically, because of the increased vacation time and less demanding schedules, an organization might need to hire more workers to keep the number of man-hours the same. But if the workers are actually more productive per hour of work with a lighter schedule, an organization might neither need more workers or more worker time....They'll still get less done overall than people on a typical American schedule, of course, but not as much less as one would at first think.
Also, communication and organizational overhead often makes adding more staff less helpful than one would think. For details, read The Mythical Man-Month, something else that foolish management often ignores.
Are you sure it isn't 50% of coders admit to coding in their sleep?
That's a load of crap. I've been pissed drunk at work - on one project 3, 4 times a week (working with two poms who dragged me off to the pub at lunchtime most days). Good times. The best part of it was that the project was for a new national computer system for the country's police force. I wonder why it failed?
(Same police force that's having it's laws rewritten by wiki - and you wonder why I'm posting anonymously)
I have taken naps at work many times. Infact after talking with my boss he realized that it was a good thing and other techies were allowed to take quick "cat naps" as long as it didn't interfer with daily work (missing meetings, snoring that type of thing).
What is better for a company, a half asleep employee who is just waiting to get done with work and is too tired to get anything done? Or an employee who takes a quick 10 minute nap who wakes up full of energy and a uncluttered head.
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I can imagine the anxiety stems from your low testes. I'd be anxious about my testes being away from my body. You never know when that co-worker you kiss will kick you between the legs.
I only sleep during the commute. Both ways!
No matter where you go... there you are.
IT workers should get a nap break like preschoolers. Duh.
Yes, but of those how many of them fell asleep at work while reading Slashdo............
Ah! I am currently working at a place which does, but not limited to, IT audits and a fellow co-worker of mine contributes to that statistic! He was found asleep in his cubicle initially, but we were thinking he was 'resting his eyes' for about 5 minutes or so..however, a hour later he was still asleep AND a game of minesweeper was minimized!
yea I've slept at work but that was after a 24 hour shift The company I worked for at the time even provided mats to crash on
no matter how good it is, it is human nature always wants to make things better
Once I arrive at the office; the computer is turned on, log in, open a few applications. Afterwards, I space out for an hour. At least it looks like I'm productive.
For quite a few people this will all be 'abracada-bra'! ;D
its becuase IT workers stay up and play WOW or any other video game.
A release every month?
Lucky bastard, hug your manglement from me.
We're doing a release (deploy) every day. Well, it's "only"
updates to a website but nonetheless there's no way in hell to
get any proper testing done at that rate.
Ofcourse it shows, we're late, down, overall broken all the time
but our biz model basically involves a license to print money and so
only very recently the metrics started to dive (market saturated, product
quality begins to matter => oops!).
Well, even apart from all that I strongly believe that a functional team,
led by a competent person, needs no XP books, "agile methologies" or any
of that crap.
You don't build a team from a set of rules, those rules just come
naturally when good people work together. Not to say that the XP/Agile
manifestos are overall bad, but unless most of these rules were no-brainers
in first place then no book in the world will help to fix your team anyways.
By my expirience most people who read (or even cite) such books
merely use the new-learned buzzwords to augment their arsenal of
excuses while still repeating the same mistakes over and over.
It's the kind of people who spend more time thinking about how
to sell(/excuse) their failed projects towards their superiors than
on trying to solve the task at hand.
It's the kind of assholes who stick to their paycheck
despite having obviously realized long ago that they, themselves
are the undeniable root cause of all the misery.
Speaking from 8yrs of expirience. Your mileage may vary.
It is a pure mental process of thinking on the next line of code to be written.
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approximately 80% of all statistics are at least 50% bullshit... nothing to see here, move along...
you really expect me to be able to express my opinion of what's so fucked up in this world in 120 characters or less?
Here in Quebec it is not unusual to kiss a co-worker. We do it as a birthday greeting, or even because of friendship. No, it is not a romantic kiss, but one on each cheek. As it is done in civilized countries. Leslie
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You could try something to make you sleep on your side/stomach instead of on back. (this should reduce snoring.) One cheap thing to try is to attach 2 tennis balls in a bra and wear it so that they are on your back. Then you will be forced to sleep in "right" position.
"Forty-seven percent of tech pros admit they've kissed a co-worker"
I just thought about fourty-seven percent of my co-workers, and I say right now that this behavior must STOP.
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Hey, where you at?
Still taking the old meat suppository? Still enjoy a poke from a bloke? Still like the tight feeling in your nether region? You are about two steps away from boring me. Have you no new insults? Nothing? I am disapointed, sluggo.
It's not narcissicism if it's true!