You are correct, and this is a subtilety 99.99% of people are missing (and this is old news, its been public for a month or more now)... however, they are funded by NASA money, so they play with NASA's ball or they go home. In my opinion (I too work at NASA, MSFC, and no, I didn't have to do half the shit this site mentions, I think a lot of it is hyperbole... but what do I know?)
Despite being touted as "news for nerds" (which is a joke, half the articles aren't, but whatever) and the perennial hangout site of open-source nerds, said open-source nerds still, for some reason, still find the need to cling on every word that comes from Redmond. I don't know why. Might make an interesting doctoral dissertation for a sociology major or something.
Excellent defense, probably one of the best in the league (according to NFL commentators, not just me). Good passing game, although the run is a little weak. As long as Favre can hold his own without needing a wheelchair, the old man:P we should be ok. Packers went 8-8 last year, missed the playoffs by a tiebreaker to NYG, and the season before went a shitty 4-12. Things are ramping up quick and I think we will do a lot better this year.
Aaron Rogers, backup quarterback, has been looking pretty impressive in the preseason. Most people seem to agree Favre will exit after this season. I think Rogers is ready to step up and take over.
(I grew up hour and a half from GB, now live in Alabama... but I'm gonna go see them take on the Titans in a few hours... cheesehead and wife in tow)
I like ESR, I agree with a lot of what he has to say, but you will find a lot of people here don't. I've read part of CATB, just haven't had time to finish it. But yes, sadly, you will find a *lot* of OS/FS people who claim that OS/FS is **inherantly** more secure, by definition.
I started making money at 13. I started paying taxes at 13.
Now, I got my federal taxes virtually completely reimbursed, due to the fact that you don't make much as a 13 year old at minimum wage, you fall under the minimum AGI for paying taxes. (most) States on the other hand are a bitch and requires you to pay taxes from dollar #1.
Hehehe, its easy to get lost in a thread. I may be optimistic, we will see what the future holds. I think we are too dependent on computers for them to go 100% into lockdown mode. I am not a programmer by trade - I'm an aerospace engineer. However a lot of work I do is done behind a compiler. I write tools for myself, and coworkers, to save us time and make analysis efficient. I can't see computers getting locked down to the point of not having a working compiler, or capability to reprogram. Too many industries would balk.
Now, might we get to a point where it is all sandboxed, where there is an ultralight kernel providing a virtual machine to sandbox the programmer and what s/he runs? Perhaps. I guess I don't have a strong opinion about that yet. If everything a computer did was sandboxed, the sandbox could then virus scan, do sanity checks, etc. and we could stop a lot of the proliferation of viruses and the like. Might actually be a good thing.
... exactly. I'm glad we are in agreement. Open source does **not** instantly guarantee security.
That being said, to answer your question, I do use Real products, and have not had issues with Real or Helix. The modern incarnation of RealPlayer is really non-intrusive, and does not want to associate itself with every media format known to man, and does not pop up ads on your computer.
Well, the source is there, is it not? Go through it and find out for yourself. That's what these open source advocates keep telling me, anyways, a thousand eyes...
/shrug. Sucks to be you then. The rest of us will enjoy. I have the latest version (non-beta) at work, no popups, no annoying links, no annoying file associations. My CD's play in Windows Media Player, as do my MP3's. Just because you can't change, or comprehend that a company can listen to customers and change, doesn't mean they won't change.
I've had a 64 bit AMD processor for almost 2 years now. Cheap-ass no-name motherboard. And I've had Fedora Core running on it for damn near that long, no tweaking.
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Did you **Watch** preseason game #2? :)
:P
now granted, preseason doesn't mean much, but still
You are correct, and this is a subtilety 99.99% of people are missing (and this is old news, its been public for a month or more now) ... however, they are funded by NASA money, so they play with NASA's ball or they go home. In my opinion (I too work at NASA, MSFC, and no, I didn't have to do half the shit this site mentions, I think a lot of it is hyperbole ... but what do I know?)
Despite being touted as "news for nerds" (which is a joke, half the articles aren't, but whatever) and the perennial hangout site of open-source nerds, said open-source nerds still, for some reason, still find the need to cling on every word that comes from Redmond. I don't know why. Might make an interesting doctoral dissertation for a sociology major or something.
karma be damned!
You must be a viking fan?
And Madden will say Brett Favre 10,000 times, until he can no longer breathe and passes out.
Excellent defense, probably one of the best in the league (according to NFL commentators, not just me). Good passing game, although the run is a little weak. As long as Favre can hold his own without needing a wheelchair, the old man :P we should be ok. Packers went 8-8 last year, missed the playoffs by a tiebreaker to NYG, and the season before went a shitty 4-12. Things are ramping up quick and I think we will do a lot better this year.
... but I'm gonna go see them take on the Titans in a few hours ... cheesehead and wife in tow)
Aaron Rogers, backup quarterback, has been looking pretty impressive in the preseason. Most people seem to agree Favre will exit after this season. I think Rogers is ready to step up and take over.
(I grew up hour and a half from GB, now live in Alabama
er... Lions. Thanksgiving day classic. Off by a week :P
Who would watch football after dinner when there's a galaxy to save?
Uh, me. Packers are taking on the Cowboys.
Packers are gonna win the superbowl this year!
Dude, you missed the sign,
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
WMAP spacecraft.
...
They are running their spacecraft off of a Windows-MySQL-Apache-PHP stack? well I'll be
Unless they pull an NT4 on us ... :)
Yeah, RMS might whack you with a Katana.
"But...its free! What conditions could there be?".
Precisely.
Compliance Engineer ? LOL
I like ESR, I agree with a lot of what he has to say, but you will find a lot of people here don't. I've read part of CATB, just haven't had time to finish it. But yes, sadly, you will find a *lot* of OS/FS people who claim that OS/FS is **inherantly** more secure, by definition.
I started making money at 13. I started paying taxes at 13.
Now, I got my federal taxes virtually completely reimbursed, due to the fact that you don't make much as a 13 year old at minimum wage, you fall under the minimum AGI for paying taxes. (most) States on the other hand are a bitch and requires you to pay taxes from dollar #1.
Your accountant must not be very creative ... time to get a new one :)
your internet connection is a 2 way street ...
Hehehe, its easy to get lost in a thread. I may be optimistic, we will see what the future holds. I think we are too dependent on computers for them to go 100% into lockdown mode. I am not a programmer by trade - I'm an aerospace engineer. However a lot of work I do is done behind a compiler. I write tools for myself, and coworkers, to save us time and make analysis efficient. I can't see computers getting locked down to the point of not having a working compiler, or capability to reprogram. Too many industries would balk.
Now, might we get to a point where it is all sandboxed, where there is an ultralight kernel providing a virtual machine to sandbox the programmer and what s/he runs? Perhaps. I guess I don't have a strong opinion about that yet. If everything a computer did was sandboxed, the sandbox could then virus scan, do sanity checks, etc. and we could stop a lot of the proliferation of viruses and the like. Might actually be a good thing.
... exactly. I'm glad we are in agreement. Open source does **not** instantly guarantee security.
That being said, to answer your question, I do use Real products, and have not had issues with Real or Helix. The modern incarnation of RealPlayer is really non-intrusive, and does not want to associate itself with every media format known to man, and does not pop up ads on your computer.
and see Helix as just a wolf in sheeps clothing.
...
Well, the source is there, is it not? Go through it and find out for yourself. That's what these open source advocates keep telling me, anyways, a thousand eyes
/shrug. Sucks to be you then. The rest of us will enjoy. I have the latest version (non-beta) at work, no popups, no annoying links, no annoying file associations. My CD's play in Windows Media Player, as do my MP3's. Just because you can't change, or comprehend that a company can listen to customers and change, doesn't mean they won't change.
Ubuntu Geico Gecko!
Think of the profitable commercial tie-ins!
I've had a 64 bit AMD processor for almost 2 years now. Cheap-ass no-name motherboard. And I've had Fedora Core running on it for damn near that long, no tweaking.
But then she'd have to divide by 10! :) Houston, we still have a problem! :)